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Hi all. If I purchase one of Moto X Sprint, ATT, Verizon
version, can I use it on our Europe network regarding
SIM lock?
Sorry I'm rookie about Moto X, I use so far other Moto Droid2 and Droid4 only.
Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
sleepyguy007 said:
Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
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Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
zsebob said:
Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
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New device, cheaper than the other, why.....?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-SEALE...1010755429?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43c197bb65
Please help. I'm purchase Sprint Motorola Moto X and need to activate it and make sim unlock.
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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Where do you order? And how much?
zsebob said:
Special thanks for your detailed answer!
About Sprint ( I found cheaper new device ) you said not to easy, so
can I found solution on XDA or impossible?
Regards
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Ive heard the only way is to be a sprint customer for 90 days and ask customer service.
Moto x
Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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Star Shadow, you got 4G working on it?
sleepyguy007 said:
Att you have to Sim unlock but its pretty easy to find some place online to do it for $10-15
The verizon and t mobile ones come unlocked.
Sprint and us cellular ones I think you have to be a customer to unlock so not easy to do.
You could also get some of the pre unlocked Latin ones.
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So essentially i can put the gsm sim card into a Verizon MotoX and it should work ..If not are there any online unlcok sites ?
suttaroom said:
So essentially i can put the gsm sim card into a Verizon MotoX and it should work ..If not are there any online unlcok sites ?
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yes verizon phones it should work out of box. might have to change some apn settings. i did this with a razr m before and i didn't have to , but you might have to..
And how about 4G?
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Moto X in Egypt
sleepyguy007 said:
yes verizon phones it should work out of box. might have to change some apn settings. i did this with a razr m before and i didn't have to , but you might have to..
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I bought the Moto X one or two weeks after it was launched, I'm in Egypt it was sim unlocked however I know that all carriers except ATT and maybe Sprint can be officially unlocked.
I rooted it installed several firmwares, now I'm using ATT 4.4 leak, It's perfect.
Our N/W here is GSM same like Europe.
kkhadr said:
I bought the Moto X one or two weeks after it was launched, I'm in Egypt it was sim unlocked however I know that all carriers except ATT and maybe Sprint can be officially unlocked.
I rooted it installed several firmwares, now I'm using ATT 4.4 leak, It's perfect.
Our N/W here is GSM same like Europe.
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And do you have 4G network in Egypt? Does it work?
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Star Shadow said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition to use in Europe. No trouble on Three. It came sim unlocked so I just popped the sim in and used it directly.
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I got the GSM Dev Edition as well and it is not working for me in Israel. Any tricks to get it to work?
ktan-18 said:
I got the GSM Dev Edition as well and it is not working for me in Israel. Any tricks to get it to work?
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Surely you just check the bands on the network your trying to use it on. Look up your networks bands.
I checked before I bought, 2100 is supported by the phone and I'm using 2100 without issue.
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Hi there, I'm posting here because it's nearly the same question but I'd like to be as sure as possible
I'm looking for this device, 'cause I really like it! The problem is that I live in Italy, and, as everyone, I want to be sure it will work here!
Reading other topics, I've seen that it all depend on the band it's used in my country.
As you che see here (http ://allworldcellphones.com/gsm-frequencies-list. htm), Italy use the GSM 900/1800 frequancies and it should be fine for this phone (or am I wrong?).
Now, if so, what does it actually means? If the frequencies match, does it means that I'll be able to call, send sms, use 2G/3G/4G or there are more parameters I need to check?
And second question: I really like the Moto Make idea! Is there any way to personalize my device and get it shipped to me? Because, if I'm not wrong, Motorola only ships to USA..
Thanks for reading (and, possibly, helping) and sorry for horror typo!
So essentially i can put the GSM sim card into a Verizon Moto X and it should work .If not are there any online unlock sites available?
Sprint doesn't have 900 3G band used in Europe, only ATT has band 7 4G, all other models don't get 4G in Europe, only 3G. Check, not sure if I am right here. My GS4 has all 3G and 4G bands for USA T-Mobile and Europe
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Ped_ro said:
Hi there, I'm posting here because it's nearly the same question but I'd like to be as sure as possible
I'm looking for this device, 'cause I really like it! The problem is that I live in Italy, and, as everyone, I want to be sure it will work here!
Reading other topics, I've seen that it all depend on the band it's used in my country.
As you che see here (http ://allworldcellphones.com/gsm-frequencies-list. htm), Italy use the GSM 900/1800 frequancies and it should be fine for this phone (or am I wrong?).
Now, if so, what does it actually means? If the frequencies match, does it means that I'll be able to call, send sms, use 2G/3G/4G or there are more parameters I need to check?
And second question: I really like the Moto Make idea! Is there any way to personalize my device and get it shipped to me? Because, if I'm not wrong, Motorola only ships to USA..
Thanks for reading (and, possibly, helping) and sorry for horror typo!
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GSM 900/1800 that's for 2G. All MotoX support that. Then you have to match 3G, and then 4G bands.
Looks like ATT is the best model for Europe but its also SIM and bootloader locked! Next in line is T-Mobile, followed by Verizon, both have same 2G and 3G bands, no 4G for Europe, SIM unlocked, but Verizon has bootloader locked
kolyan said:
Sprint doesn't have 900 3G band used in Europe, only ATT has band 7 4G, all other models don't get 4G in Europe, only 3G. Check, not sure if I am right here. My GS4 has all 3G and 4G bands for USA T-Mobile and Europe
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GSM 900/1800 that's for 2G. All MotoX support that. Then you have to match 3G, and then 4G bands.
Looks like ATT is the best model for Europe but its also SIM and bootloader locked! Next in line is T-Mobile, followed by Verizon, both have same 2G and 3G bands, no 4G for Europe, SIM unlocked, but Verizon has bootloader locked
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First of all, thanks for answering
Then, don't you think that the developer edition (GSM) could be a good option? For what I heard, with that I should be only missing the 4G network, wich would be unavaible anyway, wichever brand I choose..
Or am I wrong?
The other plus il that I wouldn't lose the warranty in case of modding..!
I just ordered the de version from the sale. I've got a verizon gs3. When the moto x comes, do I just move the sim from my gs3 to the moto x and I'll be up and running, or is there more to it than that?
If it works, I would expect you'd just get 4g data (isn't the sim only for LTE?)
johnh123 said:
I just ordered the de version from the sale. I've got a verizon gs3. When the moto x comes, do I just move the sim from my gs3 to the moto x and I'll be up and running, or is there more to it than that?
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You will need to go into a Verizon shop and have them white-list your device on their CDMA network in order to receive SMS, MMS, or voice services. They'll probably provide you with another SIM card if the GS3 doesn't use a nano SIM too. They might charge you for it, and if they do, you can just cut yours yourself instead if you want. Google for how to do that if you're interested.
Dmtalon said:
If it works, I would expect you'd just get 4g data (isn't the sim only for LTE?)
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Correct. The SIM card is only for LTE on CDMA networks, such as Verizon.
Dmtalon said:
If it works, I would expect you'd just get 4g data (isn't the sim only for LTE?)
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I'm not sure about that - when I switched from the thunderbolt to the gs3, all I remember doing is switching the sim card from one to the other.
johnh123 said:
I just ordered the de version from the sale. I've got a verizon gs3. When the moto x comes, do I just move the sim from my gs3 to the moto x and I'll be up and running, or is there more to it than that?
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I believe the GS3 uses a micro sim (like the GS4, BB Z10). The X uses Nano (like the iPhone 5/5S/5C).
My VZW Dev Edition Moto X came from Moto with a new VZW nano sim included. You should be able to power both phones off and just use the "MY VERIZON" web site to switch equipment. You'll need to enter the number off the new nano SIM that comes with the X, and you might need to enter the MEID from the X too.
Since I already was using a Nano SIM, do to having an iPhone 5 active at one time, I just put my Nano SIM in my X when it arrived, and kept the one that came with the X as a spare.
If you ever want to swtich back to the GS3 later you can get an adapter to use the Nano SIM in the GS3. This is the one I use -> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009B9YWB4/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 as well as -> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ABEA7E/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (they allow me to use my Nano sim with my X, Bionic, GS4, iPhone 5S, iPhone 5, and Lumia 928).
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Johmama said:
You will need to go into a Verizon shop and have them white-list your device on their CDMA network in order to receive SMS, MMS, or voice services.
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White list??? No need to "white list" anything if you've purchased the Verizon Developer Edition X from Moto, or even a Moto Maker device for Verizon from Moto's web site.
As long as you have two VZW branded devices that use the same size sim, you can move the SIM between them without issue. (assuming the devices aren't flagged as lost/stolen, or already associated with an account/line).
If you are switching phones and they don't use the same size sim. Verizon MIGHT charge you for a SIM, about $5, but in most cases they will not.
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Dmtalon said:
If it works, I would expect you'd just get 4g data (isn't the sim only for LTE?)
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On Verizon, yes the SIM is for 4G, as well as GSM roaming.
However, to operate a 4G LTE device on Verizon's network, even for CDMA/EVDO services, you must have a Verizon 4GLTE SIM in it. In other words, Verizon's 4G LTE devices wont work as a "CDMA/EVDO only" device without a 4GLTE Sim inserted in them.
I am totally in the wrong here. Must have been browsing XDA too much today; I need to log off. Sorry for any confusion I caused. :angel:
The SIM does all the activation for you. It will register everything (CDMA included), when you start it up with the new phone. However, as the other user mentioned, the Moto X uses a nano SIM, so you'd either need to cut your current SIM down, or get the SIM that comes with the device activated. The later will likely be easier/safer. You don't have to give VZW anything but the number of the new SIM card AFAIK and you could swap it around as you feel like to other devices as well, though you may need an adapter.
And this is pretty much all incorrect:
Johmama said:
You misunderstand. When I say "white-list" I mean, tell Verizon the exact device you are using at that time, or CDMA will not work. That's how CDMA works. It required the specific device to be current. So while it might be as easy as going online and typing in your device's MEID, it is still "clearing" it with Verizon to use their CDMA network.
This is opposed to a GSM's black-list operation. The network doesn't care. As long as your device has the proper radios and isn't black-listed (reported as stolen or something), it can use the network. No need to verify the device against a database containing the only possible devices that can use the network. You literally just swap the SIM, reboot phone, and you're done.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is, while easy, there is technically more to it than just moving the SIM card over. You'll also need to report to Verizon (somehow, either in person or online) to take advantage of their CDMA network.
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I have a Moto X XT1050. Its suppose to be carrier unlocked but every one i try i get the same, they cant activate.
It was recently activated on Alltel but the were just bought out by at&t. Idk what carrier this phone will work under
Can anyone help??
From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.
KidJoe said:
From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.
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Ok so I called Verizon and the guy said it was carrier unlocked and they dont support it. I checked a few others through thier website but no luck.
The bootloader has been unlocked, the phone is rooted....the SIM I'm not sure about. It doesn't have SIM in it but it gets 2 bars of signal
KidJoe said:
From what I recall, the XT1050 variant was made for regional CDMA carriers, and is probably SIM and Bootloader locked.
SIM lock will obviously not allow you to use it with a GSM based carrier's SIM. If its supposed to be SIM unlocked, that is another story... please provide specifics of what happens when "they cant activate."
Bootloader lock will prevent you from rooting, and/or flashing other firmware to it.
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So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?
I used xt1050 in Indonesia use gsm carrier and it work fine. So i think my device is sim unlock
Josephdbrewer25 said:
So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?
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Verizon will not activate any phones that aren't Verizon branded. That's what the rep. means by "unsupported".
Some CDMA MVNOs may support it, I haven't checked around to see. Chances are T-Mo or AT&T will. As noted by another poster he found a GSM carrier in Indonesia that it works with. Chances are any European carrier will too, but that won't help him at the moment.
At&t won't take it either. I don't get it. What's the point in an unlocked phone if nobody will take it??
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So even if I activate a Verizon SIM and put it in the phone it won't work??
And Verizon has activated a non branded before.
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Josephdbrewer25 said:
Ok so I called Verizon and the guy said it was carrier unlocked and they dont support it. I checked a few others through thier website but no luck.
The bootloader has been unlocked, the phone is rooted....the SIM I'm not sure about. It doesn't have SIM in it but it gets 2 bars of signal
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Verizon uses the XT1060... IF the listing on Wikipedia are correct, the XT1050 and XT1060 use slightly different frequency for CDMA.
Not to mention, as @glarepate has already said, Verizon will not activate a device that isn't Verizon Branded.
IN the OP you say its SIM Unlocked, now you say you're not sure about the SIM??
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Josephdbrewer25 said:
So wait you say SIM unlocked? Is it the same as carrier unlocked?? If its unlocked then shouldn't I be able to activate with a verizon SIM maybe?
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SIM unlocked = Carrier Unlocked yes, at least for GSM carriers. But the GSM carriers might not offer much support getting your device working.
CDMA carriers, like Verizon, might have the GSM side unlocked (i.e. you can pop an ATT or T-Mobile or other SIM in there and use it), but the CDMA side is LOCKED. Sprint, another CDMA carrier, has the GSM side SIM LOCKED on their 2013 X (XT1056)
KidJoe said:
Verizon uses the XT1060... IF the listing on Wikipedia are correct, the XT1050 and XT1060 use slightly different frequency for CDMA.
Not to mention, as @glarepate has already said, Verizon will not activate a device that isn't Verizon Branded.
IN the OP you say its SIM Unlocked, now you say you're not sure about the SIM??
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SIM unlocked = Carrier Unlocked yes, at least for GSM carriers. But the GSM carriers might not offer much support getting your device working.
CDMA carriers, like Verizon, might have the GSM side unlocked (i.e. you can pop an ATT or T-Mobile or other SIM in there and use it), but the CDMA side is LOCKED. Sprint, another CDMA carrier, has the GSM side SIM LOCKED on their 2013 X (XT1056)
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The verizon rep said it is carrier unlocked. All I know is that my step dad had it on alltel CDMA. Alltel just got bought out so that's a no go there. But the rep ask if i had a sim card, i was thinking maybe i could pop in a verizon one and it would work. Idk much about GSM but im gonna take it to a phone place in town tomorrow and see what they say.
Thanks for all of your replies
Josephdbrewer25 said:
The verizon rep said it is carrier unlocked. All I know is that my step dad had it on alltel CDMA. Alltel just got bought out so that's a no go there. But the rep ask if i had a sim card, i was thinking maybe i could pop in a verizon one and it would work. Idk much about GSM but im gonna take it to a phone place in town tomorrow and see what they say.
Thanks for all of your replies
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Verizon doesn't sell the XT1050, so I wouldn't put any faith into what they tell you. If its not a Verizon Branded Xt1060, they will not activate it on their service PERIOD.
Verizon still uses CDMA for voice and 3G data. So even if you put a Verizon 4GLTE SIM in there, it wont work.
The Verizon XT1060 is GSM Unlocked out of the box. (This is due to FCC C-Block Rules), so IF this was a Verizon XT1060, you could put a T-Mobile, ATT, Rogers, etc SIM in there and use the GSM side.
BUT you said this phone is an XT1050. So its not the same.
Good luck.
KidJoe said:
Verizon doesn't sell the XT1050, so I wouldn't put any faith into what they tell you. If its not a Verizon Branded Xt1060, they will not activate it on their service PERIOD.
Verizon still uses CDMA for voice and 3G data. So even if you put a Verizon 4GLTE SIM in there, it wont work.
The Verizon XT1060 is GSM Unlocked out of the box. (This is due to FCC C-Block Rules), so IF this was a Verizon XT1060, you could put a T-Mobile, ATT, Rogers, etc SIM in there and use the GSM side.
BUT you said this phone is an XT1050. So its not the same.
Good luck.
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Well something weird happened while my X was in recovery mode. It was plugged into my laptop and it popped up up "Install drivers for your XT1060." Do they all say that or is mine just being stupid?
How can I determine what model of the X I have, I'm so confused about this phone man.
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Verizon will not activate any phones that aren't Verizon branded. That's what the rep. means by "unsupported".
Some CDMA MVNOs may support it, I haven't checked around to see. Chances are T-Mo or AT&T will. As noted by another poster he found a GSM carrier in Indonesia that it works with. Chances are any European carrier will too, but that won't help him at the moment.
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Can you tell me any other carriers inside the US, lol. I already checked with AT&t, got the same thing as with Verizon. Not sure about T-Mo, that's the only one I haven't checked that picks up where I live. I have a great phone and can't even activate it. It kinda sucks.
And one more thing, sorry if I'm being a pain but why couldn't I use a Verizon SIM in it and it'd work??
I have used my XT1050 on Verizon by swapping out the Sim. It is carrier unlocked. I was also able to unlock my bootloader using the Motorola website.
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Josephdbrewer25 said:
Can you tell me any other carriers inside the US, lol. I already checked with AT&t, got the same thing as with Verizon. Not sure about T-Mo, that's the only one I haven't checked that picks up where I live. I have a great phone and can't even activate it. It kinda sucks.
And one more thing, sorry if I'm being a pain but why couldn't I use a Verizon SIM in it and it'd work??
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By all means check with T-Mo. They are trying to get more customers and may be willing to work with you. They tend to be more flexible that AT&T anyway.
Ting uses Sprint (so that may not work for you if there is no coverage) and Cricket uses AT&T, both have BYOD.
https://ting.com/byod
https://www.cricketwireless.com/shop/byod.html
I know there are others but these are just off the top of my head.
zachw91 said:
I have used my XT1050 on Verizon by swapping out the Sim. It is carrier unlocked. I was also able to unlock my bootloader using the Motorola website.
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So all I gotta do is use a verizon sim in it?? I'm gonna try it. I'm just trying to figure out what the phone can be activated with, lol.
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By all means check with T-Mo. They are trying to get more customers and may be willing to work with you. They tend to be more flexible that AT&T anyway.
Ting uses Sprint (so that may not work for you if there is no coverage) and Cricket uses AT&T, both have BYOD.
https://ting.com/byod
https://www.cricketwireless.com/shop/byod.html
I know there are others but these are just off the top of my head.
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Sprint doesn't have coverage here, not sure about T-Mo. At&t gets coverage here now, they use to not.
The last carrier the phone was activated with was Alltel but they were bought out. I'll check and call around
Thanks everybody!!
Josephdbrewer25 said:
Well something weird happened while my X was in recovery mode. It was plugged into my laptop and it popped up up "Install drivers for your XT1060." Do they all say that or is mine just being stupid?
How can I determine what model of the X I have, I'm so confused about this phone man.
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THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.
KidJoe said:
THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.
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I have the stock ROM installed but a custom recovery. It's the XT1050. This phone is weird lol
KidJoe said:
THe FCC ID on the XT1050 and XT1060 appear to be the same.
I haven't done enough digging to confirm the similarities or differences between the XT1050 and XT1060. As I said earlier, IF the wikipedia entry for the 2013 X is correct, at least the CDMA frequencies are slightly different.
I have seen my Verizon Dev Edition XT1060 list another model at one point when trying to install drivers. (ANd I've always had the stock roms installed.) so I'd just say its a little strange from time to time.
Any querries you can do of the phone right now are all software based, so if you have an XT1050 ROM on the phone, the results would say its an XT1050. If you have a 3rd party ROM on there, you likely wont see an accurate model number.
The best way is... IF the phone has the original Moto back on it.. look for the small, very fine, print at the bottom on the back. Sometimes you have to tilt the phone side to side to get light to reflect off it just right... and If you have eyes like mine, you might need a magnifying glass to read it. It will have the FCC ID and the model number on it.
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Hey @KidJoe, guess what? I called the postpaid department of Verizon and the lady told me that since my Moto X was on Alltel last that I could bring it to a store and they can put it in their system. I told her everything i knew about the phone. She said it can NOT be activated on prepaid BUT it can on postpaid. Got that same info from 2 or 3 other online support reps, lol.. So in that case you CAN activate NON verizon phones on Verizon.... oh AND I flashed the Verizon firmware on it and it works great.
I am wondering if my Sprint LG G4 model LGLS991 will work with Verizon or any other carriers if I unlock the phone?
Wondering the same unlocked mine already.
MetalMan889 said:
I am wondering if my Sprint LG G4 model LGLS991 will work with Verizon or any other carriers if I unlock the phone?
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It will never work, Verzion will never activate a sprint phone and sprint will never activate a verzion phone. Radio's, compatiblity -- none of that matters. Phones are tied to specific carriers (CDMA only) when they are sold and there's nothing we can do to change that.
I guess that answers my question. But I have seen people saying they have used a sprint phone on verizon.
I know sprint phones won't work on Verizon just curious if lte compatibility with t mobile or cricket
pickneters said:
I know sprint phones won't work on Verizon just curious if lte compatibility with t mobile or cricket
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If you get it unlocked (by sprint), then it'll work on any GSM carrier outside of United States. Even after its unlocked, it'll not work on Domestic GSM carriers.
Because of the frequencies? There are two types of unlocks domestic and international. Mine is unlocked on both.
Sprint will not do a domestic unlock, unless you have access to their back end system that handles unlocks. (even then I don't think its possible). Have you actually tried using an AT&T or TMobile (US Only) sims in your sprint phone? Even if you have the appropriate radio, the carrier lock will prevent it from working on any domestic network.
I know this from a very reliable source inside sprint.
The most sprint will do for you is unlock it for international use granted you are current on your bill and your account is in good standing.
If you own the phone outright they will unlock for domestic use. New law went into effect in February, also wife works for sprint. It was an annoying process but I finally found someone who knew what they were doing. Yes an at&t sim works in the phone.
What about using a sprint phone on Boost or Virgin? Or possibly using a donor phone as was done before laws changed then changed again?
WOW...
chirayu said:
It will never work, Verzion will never activate a sprint phone and sprint will never activate a verzion phone. Radio's, compatiblity -- none of that matters. Phones are tied to specific carriers (CDMA only) when they are sold and there's nothing we can do to change that.
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Hate to bust your bubble...but it totally depends on the phone. Lol...Nexus 6 works on Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular, ATT, TMobile...u name it it works. and the sweet thing is the US Cellular version comes unlocked. I put every active sim card in it I have and worked just fine, calls texts LTE. Thanks for the info tho.
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MetalMan889 said:
I guess that answers my question. But I have seen people saying they have used a sprint phone on verizon.
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Sprint Nexus 6 works on Verizon. Its already unlocked... All u gotta do is put your active verizon sim in it.
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pickneters said:
I know sprint phones won't work on Verizon just curious if lte compatibility with t mobile or cricket
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Sprint Nexus 6 works on Verizon. I really wish folks would research before using the words,,, NO or Never. Totally untrue. Just depends on the phone pickneters....
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chirayu said:
Sprint will not do a domestic unlock, unless you have access to their back end system that handles unlocks. (even then I don't think its possible). Have you actually tried using an AT&T or TMobile (US Only) sims in your sprint phone? Even if you have the appropriate radio, the carrier lock will prevent it from working on any domestic network.
I know this from a very reliable source inside sprint.
The most sprint will do for you is unlock it for international use granted you are current on your bill and your account is in good standing.
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You are feeding wrong info to this thread as well. Yes, it will work. Sprint just makes it a hassle to unlock (DSU)....
sd_N said:
Hate to bust your bubble...but it totally depends on the phone. Lol...Nexus 6 works on Verizon, Sprint, US Cellular, ATT, TMobile...u name it it works. and the sweet thing is the US Cellular version comes unlocked. I put every active sim card in it I have and worked just fine, calls texts LTE. Thanks for the info tho.
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Nexus 6 is factory unlocked, do some research before you go bursting bubbles.
You are feeding wrong info to this thread as well. Yes, it will work. Sprint just makes it a hassle to unlock (DSU)....
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So you're telling me sprint will activate a verizon phone?
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For those that are still curious go here
http://www.sprint.com/legal/unlocking_policy.html?ECID=vanity:unlock
and here's what you can take away from DSU.
"For inactive devices, customers must contact Sprint Customer Care to request that their DSU-capable device be unlocked and may have to take steps to perform an over-the-air update to ensure the unlock programming has been relayed to the device. Additional validation may be required to ensure eligibility.
Sprint makes no guaranty that an unlocked device will work on another carrier's network. Whether another carrier will accept and activate a device is subject to that carrier's policies and capabilities. Additionally, Sprint devices which the owner has attempted to reprogram or activate on another carrier's network or otherwise altered from its initial programming or settings may not be able to be reactivated on the Sprint network."
So to clarify, even if sprint unlocks your tray, it is more than likely that Verzion WILL NOT activate a sprint phone on their network.
chirayu said:
So you're telling me sprint will activate a verizon phone?
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With LTE phones, you don't have to activate anything if you have an active SIM card. Of course, it needs to be unlocked to work on different carriers. My VZW G3 works on Sprint just by popping in a Sprint SIM.
Not true
chirayu said:
Nexus 6 is factory unlocked, do some research before you go bursting bubbles.
So you're telling me sprint will activate a verizon phone?
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For those that are still curious go here
http://www.sprint.com/legal/unlocking_policy.html?ECID=vanity:unlock
and here's what you can take away from DSU.
"For inactive devices, customers must contact Sprint Customer Care to request that their DSU-capable device be unlocked and may have to take steps to perform an over-the-air update to ensure the unlock programming has been relayed to the device. Additional validation may be required to ensure eligibility.
Sprint makes no guaranty that an unlocked device will work on another carrier's network. Whether another carrier will accept and activate a device is subject to that carrier's policies and capabilities. Additionally, Sprint devices which the owner has attempted to reprogram or activate on another carrier's network or otherwise altered from its initial programming or settings may not be able to be reactivated on the Sprint network."
So to clarify, even if sprint unlocks your tray, it is more than likely that Verzion WILL NOT activate a sprint phone on their network.
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AT&T Nexus 6 isnt factory unlocked. Lol
Now I remember why I stopped coming to xda.
It's simple: It will never work on another CDMA carrier. Only a select few will work on a domestic GSM carrier; if you have a carrier version that is "unlocked", it will not work on another carrier. It could possible work on Boost or Virgin, since they use Sprint, but YMMV
I bought a LG G4, Sprint from EBay and was planning to register it with ChitChat Mobile. It was coming back as not compatible, so I called Sprint and they told me to have the original owner request to have the phone unlocked. I couldn't get the seller to do this. I assume he was just a re-seller but the phone is not lost or stolen. It can be registered with Sprint, just can't be used with my service provider, ChitChat Mobile. So, I paid for a service to have it unlocked. When I called ChitChat Mobile to try activating it, it came back as compatible this time. We were going through the activation process but it doesn't work to Update Profile or Update PRL.
I am getting this message:"The update could not be completed. Please try again later. If your problem persists, you may need to contact Customer Service"
I've been on the phone with the customer service for two days now(we tried factory and network re-setting) and they finally decided that something is wrong with the phone.
Can somebody help me at least shed a light on what happened here? Is this phone useless now?
I really appreciate any help!
Cirst is chitchat a cdma or gsm. If its gsm just activate the sim card. Disregard prl updates and input apn. If its cdma. What towers it run on. This device dosnt work well on verizon towers. I can tell u first hand. Or at least verizons bands here.
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So after reading see they run srprint. Sou ds like sprint hasnt unlocked the device. Had this issue on my g2 trying to run it on straight talk. I gave up and put it on a att gsm. Carrier. What software version u running
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The device might be unlocked for gsm use but cdma side sprint has to to the uicc unlock Before they will let it piggyback on their towers.
TheMadScientist420 said:
Cirst is chitchat a cdma or gsm. If its gsm just activate the sim card. Disregard prl updates and input apn. If its cdma. What towers it run on. This device dosnt work well on verizon towers. I can tell u first hand. Or at least verizons bands here.
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So after reading see they run srprint. Sou ds like sprint hasnt unlocked the device. Had this issue on my g2 trying to run it on straight talk. I gave up and put it on a att gsm. Carrier. What software version u running
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The device might be unlocked for gsm use but cdma side sprint has to to the uicc unlock Before they will let it piggyback on their towers.
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Thank you so much for your response! Yes, the phone is unlocked for gsm. I didn't know what any of this means before I started the unlock process. I thought it meant to unlock to any carrier. How is the uicc unlock done and by who? By Sprint? It's so hard to get a live person to talk there LOL and when you do, they are not very interested in helping you to unlock their phone if you're not a customer :/
Ariana425 said:
Thank you so much for your response! Yes, the phone is unlocked for gsm. I didn't know what any of this means before I started the unlock process. I thought it meant to unlock to any carrier. How is the uicc unlock done and by who? By Sprint? It's so hard to get a live person to talk there LOL and when you do, they are not very interested in helping you to unlock their phone if you're not a customer :/
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uicc is through sprint and its impossible seems like
I had the same prob with my sprint g2. Wanted it on straight talk. Had the activation kit. Did my stuff. And would never update prl. Basicly sprint wouldnt. In my opinion couldnt. Unlock it. I already had it gsm unlocked. But wouldnt work i ended up using att gsm sim for straight talk. And worked like a charm. Usally what i come to realize is if a cmda sprint phone is gsm unlocked. Never would work on sprint towers again unless the lock was reinstated. As with most lgs gsm unlock resides in carrier folder. Replacing stock folder relocks and makes sprint work again. Now i may be wrong with that assumption but just my personal expierences throught the years. Have been such. If possible i would insert a gsm sim card to veri y unlocked status and port my number to a gsm prepaid carrier. I am using cricket which bounces of att on my g4 rite now. Other than having to dl a aftermarket mms app to se d or recieve pics. Almost works better than sprints