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[ROM] Incredibly Re-EngineeredX v1.00 [01-17-11]~Re Release

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This Rom is tested and supported on only 320/340 Droid X’s.
Features
This Rom is Based on Liberty v1.0 (huge thanks to kejar31 and jrummy16 for making an awesome rom!) FULL CREDIT TO THESE TWO FOR BUILDING THE BASE DONATE TO THEM!!!!
Rebuilt 95% of the APK's removing all other language localization files except English(This thing is FAST FAST FAST FAST FAST!)
Reboot in Power Menu
Blurless
Custom animations by aamikam
Custom Theme similar to my Sense Rom on the Incredible(click on the logo in my sig to check it out)
Launcher2 with increased snap velocity
all of kejar and jrummy16's toolbox mods (these things are amazing. dont know how you put that together but huge huge ups)
AOSP Lockscreen w/ option of Rotary
Custom Themed Gingerbread Keyboard to match the theme
Sense like icons in app drawer
Themed Power Control Widgets
A Few Gingerbread Elements in the Theme
10% Battery Increments
Themed Gmail
Removed a ton of bloat. This Rom is stripped down to the bare minimum. (Please dont ask me for the apps) You can download Liberty and pull the ones you want
Kejar's Liberty Toolbox
Themed Settings Icons
Black Gingerbread Menus
Themed Gmaps (no more orange highlights)
Removed USB Debugging and Alarm Clock from Statusbar
Probably more that im forgetting...
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Included Apps
Spare Parts
Liberty Toolbox (Thanks jrummy16 and kejar31!)
Terminal Emulator (Thanks jrummy16 and kejar31!)
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Changelog
January 17th:
Initial Release- v1.00
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Disclaimer
Please remember that I will not be held responsible for anything that happens to you phone. Except of course making it well, Incredible. =)
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A Full Wipe is REQUIRED before flashing this rom. If you choose not to do this (for who knows what reason) please do not post any problems you are having!
Please report any issues so i can continue to improve this rom.
Ladies and gentlemen, please fasten your seat belts and hold on as this rom is about to take you on the ride of your life... Enjoy!
Downloads
Incredibly Re-EngineeredX v1.00
Alternate Links
Previous Versions
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Note: If i forgot to mention ANYONE please please please send me a PM letting me know. I'm not trying steal credit from anyone. Thanks guys!
Please note that because all apks and images have be optimized for maximum efficiency, themeing carelessly will break these optimizations

Current Bugs
1. Swype does not work
2. FC on language and keyboard settings

reserved for some stuff....

for some mods and themes

one more just in case...

Thank you. Great job!
Great work. Thanks for sticking with it.

I am happy you showed determination and not letting others dissuade you from bringing something to the community that is going to further our enjoyment of the Droid X!
Thanks!
I have more respect for you in not asking for donations although at this point, I would be more willing to give you a donation than kejar or jrummy. It seems they are only about the money.
Fyi, I regularly donate to devs so I don't have anything against donation at all. I just don't believe in donating to hard headed devs who are only about the money.
Sent via DX free with Liberty

luv2increase said:
I am happy you showed determination and not letting others dissuade you from bringing something to the community that is going to further our enjoyment of the Droid X!
Thanks!
I have more respect for you in not asking for donations although at this point, I would be more willing to give you a donation than kejar or jrummy. It seems they are only about the money.
Fyi, I regularly donate to devs so I don't have anything against donation at all. I just don't believe in donating to hard headed devs who are only about the money.
Sent via DX free with Liberty
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This is complete BS and you know it.... Nothing about any of the issues had anything to do with us being concerned about receiving donations.
I did have an issue with him re-posting our work and asking for donations though.. Because for the most part this ROM is Liberty with a theme.
To say he rebuilt the apps is a stretch at the least. All he did was use APKManager to decompile the app and delete folders. Themers for the most part do the same. To truly rebuild the apps he would need to build them from source as I did. If he would have reached out to me I would have sent him instructions on how build his own. Which I have offered and done, for others who have asked.
If you haven't noticed many of the features included in the Liberty toolbox are only available in pay-for only apps from Jrummy and while the app may be free on the market that doesnt not mean it is open source and free for other devs to use.
By him using our app he is also using our servers to assist him in the downloading of add-ons and themes, for his ROM. Servers which are already congested.
Do you not see a problem with any of this????
If he would have asked I don't believe that Jrummy would have been ok with him using the toolbox in his ROM. If he wanted to use the base I would have been fine.
Notice that we have been more than willing to help other devs with their ROMs on many occasions.
Examples:
Jrummy's overclocking script is in almost all DX and D2 ROMS
Rubix uses the GummyJAR base and apps and I was more than happy to help Drod2169 in doing so
Fission's latest build uses Gummy's framework and lockscreen tool and I helped Angdroid implement that.
I believe we would have been much happier if he would have removed the scripts and toolbox and just used the base. If this would have happened nothing would have been said.

kejar31 said:
This is complete BS and you know it.... Nothing about any of the issues had anything to do with us being concerned about receiving donations.
I did have an issue with him re-posting our work and asking for donations though.. Because for the most part this ROM is Liberty with a theme.
To say he rebuilt the apps is a stretch at the least. All he did was use APKManager to decompile the app and delete folders. Themers for the most part do the same. To truly rebuild the apps he would need to build them from source as I did. If he would have reached out to me I would have sent him instructions on how build his own. Which I have offered and done, for others who have asked.
If you haven't noticed many of the features included in the Liberty toolbox are only available in pay-for only apps from Jrummy and while the app may be free on the market that doesnt not mean it is open source and free for other devs to use.
By him using our app he is also using our servers to assist him in the downloading of add-ons and themes, for his ROM. Servers which are already congested.
Do you not see a problem with any of this????
If he would have asked I don't believe that Jrummy would have been ok with him using the toolbox in his ROM. If he wanted to use the base I would have been fine.
Notice that we have been more than willing to help other devs with their ROMs on many occasions.
Examples:
Jrummy's overclocking script is in almost all DX and D2 ROMS
Rubix usses the GummyJAR base and apps and I was more than happy to help Drod2169 in doing so
Fission's latest build uses Gummy's framework and lockscreen tool and I helped Android implement that.
I believe we would have been much happier if he would have removed the scripts and toolbox and just used the base. If this would have happened nothing would have been said.
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DaVinci comes to mind...anyone?

I do not like the feel of this thread at all. You make it look like we harassed you trying to get you to delete the thread. Also, your red big bold that you use to tell people to not donate to you makes it look like all we are trying to do is get donations from people.
I do not make roms for money. If I did I would be a COMPLETE fool. After doing roms for about a year I can tell you that donations suck. I told Kejar at the beginning that I have always considered roms as free work. Why do I do it then? Because I love it. It's a great hobby and I do not do it for money at all and it has always been that way for me.
I have never spoken to you before. All I said about this rom was 2 things. One on twitter where I was upset that you didn't ask if you could use liberty toolbox before posting it up and the second was here:
Hey bro,
Next time just ask before basing a rom off of someones work. Instead of having multiple roms based on something, you should just contribute whatever work you do to the liberty team or start a rom from freash
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I hate drama so I will not be posting here again.

jrummy16 said:
I do not like the feel of this thread at all. You make it look like we harassed you trying to get you to delete the thread. Also, your red big bold that you use to tell people to not donate to you makes it look like all we are trying to do is get donations from people.
I do not make roms for money. If I did I would be a COMPLETE fool. After doing roms for about a year I can tell you that donations suck. I told Kejar at the beginning that I have always considered roms as free work. Why do I do it then? Because I love it. It's a great hobby and I do not do it for money at all and it has always been that way for me.
I have never spoken to you before. All I said about this rom was 2 things. One on twitter where I was upset that you didn't ask if you could use liberty toolbox before posting it up and the second was here:
I hate drama so I will not be posting here again.
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i know you didnt harrass me. it was more the the community. i but that in big bold letters b/c i know how people love to just skim the op. by putting that in big bold letters im sure no one will miss it.. and you guys will get credit for the great work you did.. and i referred to that whole donation thing because kejar sent me a message saying he felt like i was posting your rom with a donation link under my name and possibly thought i was trying to snatch a few bucks. i just wanted to clear up that was by no means the case and just wanted to reiterate that.. i also completely undertstand you being upset that thats why i apoligized.. i dont want to start any drama either bro. its people in the community who start talking all this nonsense... if you wanna talk to me about this and work something out id be more then happy to on gtalk or twitter. just let me know. thanks for all your hard work.

Guys. Chill. Everyone.
I submit that this whole thing could have been handled differently. And should have been.
Clearly, Chingy was not trying to take credit for anyone's work, nor profit from it. He was just sharing his modifications with a group of people who don't like what the man delivered to us.
But in all reality, what harm was done? None.
I really love the Liberty ROM, and by extension the Incredibly Re-Engineered ROM. There are features in both that are down right awesome. I love them both.
Let's just wipe the slate clean, and move on. This is by far, greater than Moto/VZW have done. I believe we all agree on that.
Please, let's get along and make Android what it was meant to be.
We need free thinkers and developers to bring ideas to reality.

I use Liberty on my Droid X, and my Dinc had Incredibly Re-engineered. (Actually it still does)
I think one major thing that needs to be said is this:
The Droid X dev forums are NOTHING like the Dinc forums. We have very talented devs, I'm not saying we don't, but there aren't as many devs here. This is something that needs to be taken note of.. We can't afford to bash each other or dislike each other because there's not enough to begin with. If we want to continue improving this phone, we need to all work together. I'm not saying anyone bashed anyone, but I feel this had to be taken to heart.

Looks real good downloading now.
And lets all be friends.
Thanks to all 3 and i have bought jrummys apps and there quality but one request add more boot logos to logo changer maybe some google and htc logos.

Why can't we be friends? Why can't we be friends? Just asking. I hare drama so im just posting to get my post count up;-)
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App

I have tried every ROM out the on my X,Inc,OG Droid, and EVO.... This is by far the quickest, cleanest, and most stable yet. Good job! That being said... F these haters, lets see them make their own ROM! I believe their all missing one big detail... EVERY ROM HAS BEEN RIPPED OFF OF THE ORIGINAL VANILLA ANDROID OS. Not saying its a bad thing but its the truth. If I knew how to create a ROM, this would be what I would have created. Just saying.... You don't like it down run it. More for me!
Half these haters are going to be rocking iPhones by the end of the month anyway! Have fun with you custom ROMS THEN!

Wonderful rom! I prefer this to everything out there so far, thanks for your work!
Sent from my Droid X using XDA App

Live wallpapers are missing?

bL33d said:
Live wallpapers are missing?
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Took them out. Download liberty and pull them from that.
Sent from my Incredible ass phone

give the guy some credit
I been using this rom a few days now and I am very satisfied with it. Dont know exactly what he did or didnt do, but I personally think it runs a bit smoother than liberty or gummyjar even though it came from those 2 roms. keep up the good work.

Thank You to A great developer for a great ROM DjangoManoucheX by carburano

I did not know of carburano's work with the LG Optimus 2X for GB but with ICS I do have to say I really appreciate the time and effort he has put into the development. His thread in the development section is one of the most read and posted thread. I believe it is almost as large as the JB threads and in some cases larger. Even his old GB thread is still being posted to and growing monstrous in size.
I have tried to keep up with his ICS thread but it is so hard with the large number of posts everyday, some seeming to be constant repeats of previously asked questions or small replies to others. In some cases people just quote someone else and add lol. Everything I see points to carburano being very dedicated and committed to his work and followers. I can understand the difficulties he has sifting through the posts looking for good feedback and positive replies to his hard work. I am certain that he reads over every post and each one takes up some of the time he sets aside for us all.
Being such a large and popular thread I was surprised not to see more threads on DjangoManoucheX (yes I even used the search feature) where people would discuss everything from how a particular ril performs to which baseband people are using with his rom. But than again without them being started by the creator of this fabulous rom few people may take them seriously and in some cases may not take the time to search for them.
@carburano thank you for breathing life into my phones have never worked better. I have 3 LG2X's and some nights I may install roms with different kernels to see how they work for a few days, taking note of particular things I like better than others and how things are implemented. I enjoy this type of playing with the phones, I spent many years as a electronics and computer technician and finding something that keeps me this excited is beyond words to explain. Yet after many tests I keep coming back to your rom as the standard.
Please take the popularity of your thread and rom as I hopefully believe it is meant to be, a positive show of how much everyone appreciates your work. Some people may get over excited like kids in a candy store waiting for the store keeper to restock the shelves and sometimes this may lead to them typing to fast or some things lost in translation. Seeing your work and any new release you put out is like Christmas time all over again.
I would have tried to post this on the DM rom thread as I could find no other thread praising your work but 2 things stopped me
1. I am new so can not. I have lurked in the shadows for to long watching and
2. I need to try and figure out what the "on topic" topic's are. So hopefully in the general area is where I should put this.
Thank You again carburano I believe things could not be better with you keeping the phone and your followers so well looked after.

Heya, I'm glad you liked his ROMs but the thing is carburano is not a developer, he is a "rom cooker". . He "cooks" a rom using the preferences/addons/themes etc.. he likes.
Other than that, I support this post. I think he is a great contributor to this community.
thanks carburano.

Thanks
I appreciate the clarification in terminology. I am behind and need to catch up some.
My main goal was to try and express my gratitude and maybe others for the work he puts in to make our life and phones better and easier.

Hello...
Carburano is a great cooker, and even so good that we could say developer, at least he's able to give Roms as good as he was a 'developer'.. And a good person as far as I 'know' him
But the community deceived me a lot theses days because they didn't really understand the meaning of XDA and of what he is doing, for FREE.
He would not provide his update to everyone because some have though his thread was a general/Q&A thread... and what some replied ?! "Ok, no problem, we don't care, if you don't provide us a even better Rom every week we switch to an other". But boys tell me, what's are the problems that 'everybody' encounter with the 1.4 ? It is fully and absolutely working, stock based and theme with a kernel that LG was dreamimg to build but wasn't even able to.
So what do theses guys want... every developer deserve respect for what they are giving to our phone which was at the beginning made for the developer's phone only, so you can't complain of anything about what Carburano is doing
@Carburano: Thank a lot for what you gave us, giving our old phone an extended life

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I'm sorry but i cannot continue with this environment, i've stolen many days to my private life not to hear that i must release soon otherwise i'm an id***... I prefer to continue dmx privately and if things will be fine i will give you links. I promised to avoid open a new thread for my roms and i will keep this promise. Ciao guys. This is it
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A sad day it is.
When we take something for granted that was given for free and than expect to be treated like we paid for it.
carburano and other developers / chef's / cookers already have enough things to do with there own life that their free time and evenings should be spent doing the things they love because they want to and not because people try to make them feel bad about not giving all their time to one thing.
I have stayed off forums on many different websites and out of the conversation because I am more than happy to patiently wait for the next release or happy to work out all the bugs that I can on my own before I bother anyone, but now it is to late I should have joined earlier if for nothing else than to click on the thanks button.
@carburano because of the great work I have seen in your rom it has peaked my curiosity to maybe give it a try myself and see what I can do with my phones. It is a good thing there are high quality developers and chefs on XDA that I can try to seek guidance from. I would expect there are alot of people who do create their own custom roms but also keep them private to avoid the stress that seems to be taking over.
I learned from playing addictive online games that Real Life takes priority and you need to take the time to ensure it does not slip past you while you look at the computer screen.

No problem man.. You are absolutly true, the community have been really disrespectful towards you and your life that we all know very busy, and I really hope that your decision will make some minds change..
Again, thank for your work..

Hi carburano, i really reeeally reeeeeeeally love your work on DMX. I always come back to your rom when i try others rom's. That speed, smoothnes, battery life.
Well, now its over because some idiot's. :banghead:
But if you relese newer version's of your DMX, can you please send me links?
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app

This forum is dying anyways got the O2x for 2 years now and i ordered my Nexus 4 thanks for keeping this phone alive devs but i think this is just the end for the O2x.
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carburano said:
I'm sorry but i cannot continue with this environment, i've stolen many days to my private life not to hear that i must release soon otherwise i'm an id***... I prefer to continue dmx privately and if things will be fine i will give you links. I promised to avoid open a new thread for my roms and i will keep this promise. Ciao guys. This is it
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Take the advice of your quote and live well, your work speaks for itself. If you decide to share any further work I know there are dedicated people who are more than willing to provide positive feedback to what works and does not work. My wife gets mad at me when I change her phone because I see something I want to test out on it so I will have to just keep playing with my other 2 LG2X's for now.

Micronuub said:
This forum is dying anyways got the O2x for 2 years now and i ordered my Nexus 4 thanks for keeping this phone alive devs but i think this is just the end for the O2x.
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Not for me. I want my O2X to live forever.
I've just had my power button replaced, and I'm even considering buying a new battery for it just so I can make it feel new.

Welll guys...
Life goes on.....
Thx Carbo,one more time...
:good:

Carbru bro what I am seeing this?
Please dont!
You are a greatest dev and contributor since years for our 2x. You've made a great effort. We miss you please come back:/
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app

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spica1234 said:
Carbru bro what I am seeing this?
Please dont!
You are a greatest dev and contributor since years for our 2x. You've made a great effort. We miss you please come back:/
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Last months my thread became o2x trashbin.. It was my fault too... So i took this decision.
I alteady miss xda but i cannot continue in this way
Sent from DjangoManouche!

carburano said:
Last months my thread became o2x trashbin.. It was my fault too... So i took this decision.
I alteady miss xda but i cannot continue in this way
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Man, this is sad because of a few stupid guys, we lose a great dev like you ! :crying:
I've been a fan from your first ICS release, I loved your jokes during install, like the cookie recipe and the fake windows install !
Now I have DM X1.2 and can't update anymore
Can you send a link for us who enjoyed all your hard work ? :good:
Thanks for your time and work Carburano, don't let stupid people upset you !

But Carburano, why so many of us have to be punished this way like the bad ones? I'm still at Stock 2.3, when I see the news about DjangoManouche X 1.5 I see the perfect rom to my phone. I just hope some day I can use your rom, because to me, your rom seem to be the best one. We will miss you man!

carburano said:
Last months my thread became o2x trashbin.. It was my fault too... So i took this decision.
I alteady miss xda but i cannot continue in this way
Sent from DjangoManouche!
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Hey mate,
I do have one suggestion which you might want to try.
Create an Q&A or userthread in the general section, where people can post more freely.
Add big fat red lines at your op stating that every kind of offtopic needs to get posted there and only posts for bug reports etc. are allowed in your dev thread.
Then consequently report users who break the ground rules.
If someone does it continuously ask the mods if they could hand him an infraction.
This forum is about development and contributions - not about dumbasses who can't keep their mouth shut and think they need to clutter threads in the development section.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

I tried to find Waldo and failed
Well I looked in the official release thread for DM 1.5 link and I think I found the post where carburano had placed his link but I think it has already been removed or maybe moved to a new post due to the problems that thread was having. No one wanted to be subjected to the same problems he was having. That is sorting through all the extra off topic posts.
For some people I hope it opened their eyes to the problem, for others all they could do was complain about it even though carburano posted the exact page where he shared.
I'am happy playing with 1.4 it works great.
@carburano good job in the way you posted the link, if even a few people now think twice before they post threads or where they post them I would say you accomplished the task of educating them.
I will keep looking in my spare time, maybe get lucky one day.

I need link for Dm1.5?Thnks.

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tonyp said:
Hey mate,
I do have one suggestion which you might want to try.
Create an Q&A or userthread in the general section, where people can post more freely.
Add big fat red lines at your op stating that every kind of offtopic needs to get posted there and only posts for bug reports etc. are allowed in your dev thread.
Then consequently report users who break the ground rules.
If someone does it continuously ask the mods if they could hand him an infraction.
This forum is about development and contributions - not about dumbasses who can't keep their mouth shut and think they need to clutter threads in the development section.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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I read rc/rd pm... And it's a good idea but now i will wait until things come back to normality and then i will think about it
Sent from DjangoManouche!

Team Kriztal /You can apply for membership here/

Hello. So if you want to join team kriztal:
Basic android knowledge like what is a kernel,apk decompiling etc.
UOT kitchen knowledge
Follow me on twitter/add me as xda friend
Not needed,but good. Language knowledge
No nooby behavior in the team
Editing pngs
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Answer those questions honestly, please.
I will send you a pm with accept/refuse

Well , it looks like everybody is creating his own Team after they saw my Ace-i Team Thread. One of them is you.
Copycats

What is this team will be?

So much boybands they want to theme and port new roms...
We already got enough themed and ported rom, if you really want to help, ask biel, or drive to bradcomm and punch the sources out of their head...
or at least try to make a stable CM..but please in gods name, dont make boybands for theming/porting roms, it can be done by every use who got the force of reading..

not for theming nor porting,maybe building kernel
and making stockbased roms
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dabeez98 said:
Hello. So if you want to join team kriztal:
Answer those questions honestly, please.
I will send you a pm with accept/refuse
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i wanna be very honest , the folowing are the stuff i know better :-
1)apk decompiling ( apk .multitool , apk manager,apk tool )
2)creating a custom rom
3) theming
4)uot kitchen.
5)editing .9.png files........MORE
Thing's which i myself had created it ;- 1) BACKPORT HACK
2) MOST ADVANCED MOD...{ RELEASING IT ON 25-04-2013 }
3)PLETHORA TWEAKS
AND MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL IS GIVING RESPECT TO EVERY MEMBER, IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR THANKS METER AND POSITION OF A MEMBER

Sniper Killer said:
Well , it looks like everybody is creating his own Team after they saw my Ace-i Team Thread. One of them is you.
Copycats
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Probably you are joking... But...
Its not ethical to joke the people who is trying to build something. As you see the rom you are building is a copycat of another rom even its another system you make it look like S3.
Beyond our kernel and CM developers all of us are copycats. We port roms already builded or themed them to look alike someother phone.
I dont want to start a fight in here but all of us want our phone gets better in some way. Lets dont block the way of people who tries something for our phone. We are not enemies here and we have to stick together to build something.
And for iamareebjamal we like your sarcaism, even you hit our head from wall to wall, you show us the right way even we are being a noob.
I am sorry if i offended anyone or wrote something wrong. And i am not a part of any team, only a member of XDA.
:: Today is the first day of what's left of your life. ::

ChelebiTech said:
Probably you are joking... But...
Its not ethical to joke the people who is trying to build something. As you see the rom you are building is a copycat of another rom even its another system you make it look like S3.
Beyond our kernel and CM developers all of us are copycats. We port roms already builded or themed them to look alike someother phone.
I dont want to start a fight in here but all of us want our phone gets better in some way. Lets dont block the way of people who tries something for our phone. We are not enemies here and we have to stick together to build something.
And for iamareebjamal we like your sarcaism, even you hit our head from wall to wall, you show us the right way even we are being a noob.
I am sorry if i offended anyone or wrote something wrong. And i am not a part of any team, only a member of XDA.
:: Today is the first day of what's left of your life. ::
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First of all , I was joking. Who is talking about my ROM ? Why you change topic ?
Me either. I don't want a fight. We are not enemies , i didn't said to him :" Why you created a TEAM ! Only i can do ! " I want to improve this device.
iamareebjamal ? Who is talking to him ? I don't see a post here , did he delete it ?

Sniper Killer said:
First of all , I was joking. Who is talking about my ROM ? Why you change topic ?
Me either. I don't want a fight. We are not enemies , i didn't said to him :" Why you created a TEAM ! Only i can do ! " I want to improve this device.
iamareebjamal ? Who is talking to him ? I don't see a post here , did he delete it ?
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Yes, i know you are joking. My concern was to the word "Copycat". It may be nothing to you personally but for developers (in my time) was a heavy insulting. I irritiated for someone using that word, especially a Team Leader. Who is responsible what he/she said is stands for everyone in his/her team. Yes everyone has theirs opinion seperately but if you add your team in your signiture, you are responsible for them as well. And about iamareebjamal is in your team also as you stated in your signiture. I like him where he stands in this forum personally. And don't want to take his Lightning Bolt's to myself.
As i stated: I am sorry if i offended anyone or wrote something wrong. May be its my fault but a Team Leader must be carefull to which words he/she used.
Farewell my friend. Let the light guide your way...

I still dont get it...
A team for what? Development? Building kernels? Creating/Theming/Porting ROM'S? Creating Apps?
If you want to build kernels, i guess you take it way too easy.. it's not like "ah well, hiring a few members and creating and a new generation of ROMs with a own kernel and own stuff"..
We all waiting for a stable CM and it's finally going forward, but if it were that easy, why it took so long? bieltv.3 was away for a couple of time, yeah that's right, but it's still not easy to build a rom/kernel.
You have to learn all the stuff over YEARS and you need the endurance for keep learning, if you are motivated you got it at the first time, but after learning for an week or two, you getting tired and either you give up, take a break or you'll stop it.
It's not like "learning java and after an week im an programmer/developer".. NO! stop thinking that, if you learned all the stuff and you understand it, then you can go and learn the advanced knowledge, THEN you can "build" a "team"...
and sorry, but:
Basic android knowledge like what is a kernel,apk decompiling etc.
UOT kitchen knowledge
Follow me on twitter/add me as xda friend
Not needed,but good. Language knowledge
No nooby behavior in the team
Editing pngs
For this things i dont need a team.. reading around XDA and some tutorial around google and i can do this stuff for my own.
Simplicity, excalibur, ace i sure, miui, etc. - all those guys didnt need a whole team, they've read around the forum/google, maybe asked some guys with better knowledge and then they created their rom's.
You remember this guy? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182364
He said something about he'll make a own kernel and a good rom etc. bla.. i said "crap".. and now? no one remember him
So whatever, we dont need a TEAM for porting/theming rom's, use your knowledge to solve bugs on your own rom's and everything is fine

I'm also searching for some members to create some custom ROM based on 4.2.2 version. For now i'm a searching resources like images launcher icons etc...if someone is interested PM.

team kriztal has changed it's name to TEAM PLETHORA........
I again repeat team kriztal =TEAM PLETHORA..

Basic android knowledge like what is a kernel,apk decompiling etc.--Yes
UOT kitchen knowledge--Yes
Follow me on twitter/add me as xda friend--Yes
Not needed,but good. Language knowledge--Yes
No nooby behavior in the team--Yes
Editing pngs--Yes

I want to join
Basic android knowledge like what is a kernel,apk decompiling etc.--Yes
UOT kitchen knowledge--Yes
Follow me on twitter/add me as xda friend--Yes
Not needed,but good. Language knowledge--Yes
No nooby behavior in the team--Yes
Editing pngs--Yes
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I know all of these

Atomod_Ace-i said:
I know all of these
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Hey Puneeth.007 and dabeez98 will you accept this guy.

info , BANNER
@aTomods_ace-i :- Thank you for your interest in joining our team..but unfortunately i don't see any work done by you , in this ace-i section....so, we can't accept you . i don't mean to insult you.we will just join the members, who have done something to our ace-i section....
@members of team plethora :- i got some new signatures of us in HD
THESE DONE BY ME , IN HD 1080p ..
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HEY Puneeth.007
Hey @puneeth.007 the first banner have your name on the banner.So If It is a team banner please remove your name on the first banner.

A copyright? k...
2013-2015 , you already now how long your team will exist?
Simple the best? can't wait to see your first (ported, themed) ROM... for the lulz...

kewkie said:
A copyright? k...
2013-2015 , you already now how long your team will exist?
Simple the best? can't wait to see your first (ported, themed) ROM... for the lulz...
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I think that you must be a "RECOGNIZED NOOB"
Is the copyright stuff bothering you in anyway ???
And yeah i know i long my team will exist,no need to worry about it....
Oooh !! You wanna see my first rom..huh !! ok you see it soon,no problem about it..you are soo must interested in my first rom..then what about your first rom.
You didn't port any theme nor created any custom rom..you talk as if you created something..
You just wander from thread to another thread and post useless stuff...
You are thinking you are great , but please don't think so...
"i smell some poo poo here"
This is what you said in a custom rom (peanut butter) thread..
Oh yes , you are absolutely right..wherever you post , we smell poo poo there..you are the actual poo poo guy..
" whole 13 tweaks , who is gonna know which is best..not even a thanks for it..you just take all the stuff and put it in Aroma installer and your thanks greed increase.!! "
Is that so, lady !!...ok then why don't you create a mod based Aroma ,as you think its just an drag and drop stuff. Oh sorry,i just forgot that you are a NOOB...so unfortunately you can't even do drag and drop stuff..
You said many other stuff in my A-MODS thread,but i got it cleared because i don't want your poo poo smell in my thread..
You acting as if we are developing mods and stuff to you..let me remind you one thing , you are just another noob, trying to be a newbie...please don't be a noob..
And this ain't any flaming,i am just making him realize about stuff he has done..
I don't wanna drag this stuff much..i am neither creating a flaming nor offencing stuff here....so kewkie i wanna say is that please don't post this kind of stuff..it is going to take you no where,and you are just proving that you are FATHER OF NOOB's ...
This type of attitude proves that you have an attitude of HITLER.....bloody nazi's..
Thou shall be kicked out of xda , if you again do your poo poo magic here.......
Sent from my ace.Any problem ? ?

[DISCUSSION][Q] How we can help improve CM

As you guys now our phones' chance to get a full working CM is growing each day thanks to biel. But the main problem is he doesn't have our phone so he can only work with testers. This takes a lot of time cause he can't check what he did right after what he did.
He said that he is saving the money from the donations to Buy our phone. So I think there's a lot of people who has this phone and don't want to or can't sell it but they want to make it better. What if all of us donates* to him just 1 euro (or az he/she feels)? Or every person who asks "when ics and jb..?" Rememeber this is not a command to send money to biel. This is just and idea of how WE can help!
*His donation page: http://bieltv3.blogspot.com.es/p/donations.html
If you've done it maybe u can write in the comment section below or whatever if people will see this working they will join.
And just to be clear donating means give something NOT expecting to get back!

Really good idea of making this thread.....I will definately try to give my token of appreciation.....
Sent From Devil's Cave

As Biel mentioned few times i think the people has done what they can. And posting a topic like this makes people more demanding. And if Biel cant make CM stable or without bugs. The people will start to shout i give money why dont you do it.
No offence but let people donate what they want when they want. Sorry if i seem like against this but i try to did best i can and dont want any extra pressure on Biel. Thanks.
:: Broke my leg. Not in the mood of talking. ::

ChelebiTech said:
As Biel mentioned few times i think the people has done what they can. And posting a topic like this makes people more demanding. And if Biel cant make CM stable or without bugs. The people will start to shout i give money why dont you do it.
No offence but let people donate what they want when they want. Sorry if i seem like against this but i try to did best i can and dont want any extra pressure on Biel. Thanks.
:: Broke my leg. Not in the mood of talking. ::
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Thats why I cleared the concept of donation in the post. I understand your concern about biel i have it too, I tried to create the thread to make people understand that he is doing us a Favour and above the donation all we can do is to be Thankful for him nothing else He already made the job to deserve the donations!

wolverinemaister said:
Thats why I cleared the concept of donation in the post. I understand your concern about biel i have it too, I tried to create the thread to make people understand that he is doing us a Favour and above the donation all we can do is to be Thankful for him nothing else He already made the job to deserve the donations!
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Yes you are right. But no one can control the thougts of people especially newbies and noobs. And my concern is if people starts to write abnormal then Biel or the ones helping CM lost their Will to work. Just saying....
:: Broke my leg. Not in the mood of talking. ::

ChelebiTech said:
Yes you are right. But no one can control the thougts of people especially newbies and noobs. And my concern is if people starts to write abnormal then Biel or the ones helping CM lost their Will to work. Just saying....
:: Broke my leg. Not in the mood of talking. ::
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True, but maybe it can be the opposite too i mean for him to see how many people stands behind him. All of the danger you're telling is true I was thiking for weeks to create this thread. If it is going bad within a few days i delete my thread or whatever

Ok guys, first of all thanks for make this thread. You both are right, I mean, donations can be better for developing or worser. That depends on donators, they are donating me his money, because they think I'm doing a good work for free / to get the device.
Here it comes the misunderstandings: People usually think that, if they donate me some money, I work for him, so I must fix all bugs, release things when he want... and if not? They will argue against me.
Donators must now a few things, I think most of devs know, but not noob/newbies that donate to me. Improving CM is really dificult because of lack of sources, that won't change even if I have the device. So we maybe never get a 100% CM, but we can make a daily one, which that can be good challange.
Remember too, I'm from Galaxy Ace community, and I've my projects there too, CM 10.1 is my major one, so I can not abandon those projects just because a guy donate me the money. I think everyone could understand that.
I don't want to force people doanting me, donations are from people that appreciate my work, and they are voluntary! I'm not obligation anyone, and I won't do that ever. And if you donate, don't spect to be recompensed, maybe you won't, and that must be in your head while you are doanting me.
This thread for me is okey (as moderator asked me), but remeber if that causes some problems on me, or on XDA rules, this thread must be closed, but for now is okey.
Thanks, Biel.

Thread Closed with permission of the OP.

Goodbye OmniRom~

My galaxy nexus will continue running CyanogenMod for losing surport of OmniRom nightly build.
As CM11.0 is becoming more and more stable,I believe the nightly will coming soon.

We are gutted.

CM Nightlies arent our yet and IT IS BECOMING MORE N MORE STABLE :banghead:

What wait?
So OMNIROM no longer pledge support for Gnex?
Was looking for a 4.4 Kitkat rom from omni guess not...

No maintainer has a Galaxy Nexus. Give us a Galaxy Nexus (or find a maintainer with a Galaxy Nexus), and you'll have 4.4 nightlies.

XpLoDWilD said:
No maintainer has a Galaxy Nexus. Give us a Galaxy Nexus (or find a maintainer with a Galaxy Nexus), and you'll have 4.4 nightlies.
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Ahhh but does that totally rule out Omni for Gnex?
In terms of the final 4.4 release?

qf19910623 said:
My galaxy nexus will continue running CyanogenMod for losing surport of OmniRom nightly build.
As CM11.0 is becoming more and more stable,I believe the nightly will coming soon.
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I'm horrified at how many gnex users whine about omni not having a maintainer... Let all the whiners go to CM, good riddance. If all of you gnex users put as much energy in learning to maintain your own device as you do complaining, you'd probably have a stable release by now.

King p1n said:
Ahhh but does that totally rule out Omni for Gnex?
In terms of the final 4.4 release?
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Blind development is impossible. The device won't be supported until someone from the community steps up and supports it.
There might be an existing maintainer with some spare bandwidth to support one of the gnex variants if provided a device - I personally don't have the time for it.
karendar said:
I'm horrified at how many gnex users whine about omni not having a maintainer... Let all the whiners go to CM, good riddance. If all of you gnex users put as much energy in learning to maintain your own device as you do complaining, you'd probably have a stable release by now.
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Yup. The best way to get a device supported is to work in it yourself!

Entropy512 said:
Yup. The best way to get a device supported is to work in it yourself!
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... or donate one to a developer.
I personally never understood all these demands to ROM developers. It's not like we're paying them to do it and support it or anything. Must be the new entitlement generation... (Generation E, if you will).

rodrigorajao said:
... or donate one to a developer.
I personally never understood all these demands to ROM developers. It's not like we're paying them to do it and support it or anything. Must be the new entitlement generation... (Generation E, if you will).
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People learning a new skill is by far the better way IMO.
By donating devices to someone, you:
1) Potentially eliminate the opportunity for someone else to do the bringup and gain skills
2) Potentially cause that developer to burn out in the long run - that is why I personally won't be taking on any additional devices for quite a while. I'm spread way too thin as it is.

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karendar said:
I'm horrified at how many gnex users whine about omni not having a maintainer... Let all the whiners go to CM, good riddance. If all of you gnex users put as much energy in learning to maintain your own device as you do complaining, you'd probably have a stable release by now.
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u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...

anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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Google is ur friend my dear friend.. There are several tutorials that would help u to help build kernels n roms from source...

anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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How do you think we learned ROM development?

anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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And I'm sick of people being lazy, so...
If developers on here took the time to help every newbie out there, they wouldn't have any time to do what they do FOR FREE. Yes, you read that right. FREE. The real devs don't ask for donations. The real devs do this on their spare time, out of sheer devotion to the device and the technology. Not because some guy in the boondocks is requesting a feature or a bug fix. They all learned the hard way and SOME do give their time... And their knowledge. They just do it in a strategic way: By documenting on knowledgebases, wikis, articles, forums, etc.
So learn to google, learn to search, learn to learn. That's the TRUE spirit of XDA right there... Not what some of the forums are becoming: Harassment from impatient users who want it all right now for nothing. No offense intended, but "newbs" are only newbs because they choose to be. All the necessary information is out there. And if it's not, and you can show a proper breadcrumb of what you've done to get there, some dev somewhere can see the effort and help out. MAYBE.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to repo sync.
BAM.

karendar said:
And I'm sick of people being lazy, so...
If developers on here took the time to help every newbie out there, they wouldn't have any time to do what they do FOR FREE. Yes, you read that right. FREE. The real devs don't ask for donations. The real devs do this on their spare time, out of sheer devotion to the device and the technology. Not because some guy in the boondocks is requesting a feature or a bug fix. They all learned the hard way and SOME do give their time... And their knowledge. They just do it in a strategic way: By documenting on knowledgebases, wikis, articles, forums, etc.
So learn to google, learn to search, learn to learn. That's the TRUE spirit of XDA right there... Not what some of the forums are becoming: Harassment from impatient users who want it all right now for nothing. No offense intended, but "newbs" are only newbs because they choose to be. All the necessary information is out there. And if it's not, and you can show a proper breadcrumb of what you've done to get there, some dev somewhere can see the effort and help out. MAYBE.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to repo sync.
BAM.
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I've answered tons of questions in IRC... I've documented as much as I can why particular changes are made. However, there's a category of questions that fall into "handholding" because they're easily Googleable, or they are related to skills which can't be easily taught - they can only be learned by doing.
The problem is that every device is different, and the things you need to do in order to get one working are different for every device. If someone has a weird issue and a really esoteric log entry, then it's valid to ask if anyone has seen something similar (although you should Google first).
Learning to be a device maintainer is a long and difficult and frustrating process. Even if you're very experienced and familiar with Android, it requires immense amounts of patience and tons of time reading source code and reading through commit logs. There's no easy step-by-step recipe - it's all about developing troubleshooting and analysis skills, and those are best learned by doing.
Now there are some developers who do a poor job of documenting things - commit messages that are completely uninformative, unrelated changes made in a single commit, etc. - Most contributors to our gerrit know that such practices are a good way to get a -1 from me. (See my sig for a link to some general good practices...)

just listen....
tilal6991 said:
How do you think we learned ROM development?
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i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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karendar said:
And I'm sick of people being lazy, so...
If developers on here took the time to help every newbie out there, they wouldn't have any time to do what they do FOR FREE. Yes, you read that right. FREE. The real devs don't ask for donations. The real devs do this on their spare time, out of sheer devotion to the device and the technology. Not because some guy in the boondocks is requesting a feature or a bug fix. They all learned the hard way and SOME do give their time... And their knowledge. They just do it in a strategic way: By documenting on knowledgebases, wikis, articles, forums, etc.
So learn to google, learn to search, learn to learn. That's the TRUE spirit of XDA right there... Not what some of the forums are becoming: Harassment from impatient users who want it all right now for nothing. No offense intended, but "newbs" are only newbs because they choose to be. All the necessary information is out there. And if it's not, and you can show a proper breadcrumb of what you've done to get there, some dev somewhere can see the effort and help out. MAYBE.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to repo sync.
BAM.
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i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...

Entropy512 said:
I've answered tons of questions in IRC... I've documented as much as I can why particular changes are made. However, there's a category of questions that fall into "handholding" because they're easily Googleable, or they are related to skills which can't be easily taught - they can only be learned by doing.
The problem is that every device is different, and the things you need to do in order to get one working are different for every device. If someone has a weird issue and a really esoteric log entry, then it's valid to ask if anyone has seen something similar (although you should Google first).
Learning to be a device maintainer is a long and difficult and frustrating process. Even if you're very experienced and familiar with Android, it requires immense amounts of patience and tons of time reading source code and reading through commit logs. There's no easy step-by-step recipe - it's all about developing troubleshooting and analysis skills, and those are best learned by doing.
Now there are some developers who do a poor job of documenting things - commit messages that are completely uninformative, unrelated changes made in a single commit, etc. - Most contributors to our gerrit know that such practices are a good way to get a -1 from me. (See my sig for a link to some general good practices...)
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Honestly Entropy, you're one of the developers which I love following in the forums. Your interventions are always informative, you've got a great logic and even though sometimes you can be quite prompt in your way of answering, it's always justified. I have no doubt that you've helped many people and I'm sure your approach is always a "teach a man to fish" approach. I respect you very much, as I do other developers of similar nature, and I felt you should know this. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to reading other post from you.
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anurag.dev1512 said:
i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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You haven't taken the time to read what I've written. Don't generalize and re-read what I've said and what Entropy said...
This is the last intervention I'll do on this thread, as the point is now moot.

ya i know..
karendar said:
Honestly Entropy, you're one of the developers which I love following in the forums. Your interventions are always informative, you've got a great logic and even though sometimes you can be quite prompt in your way of answering, it's always justified. I have no doubt that you've helped many people and I'm sure your approach is always a "teach a man to fish" approach. I respect you very much, as I do other developers of similar nature, and I felt you should know this. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to reading other post from you.
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You haven't taken the time to read what I've written. Don't generalize and re-read what I've said and what Entropy said...
This is the last intervention I'll do on this thread, as the point is now moot.
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its really hard to see your true self...

anurag.dev1512 said:
i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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I'm not a dev, but I would think statements like this really discourage them.
I do have a GNex that I haven't had luck selling. Was thinking about donating to Omni devs since they don't seem to have one. However, am having second thoughts if it makes it seem like people who whine and complain get what they want because they whine and complain.
@ Devs: PM me if you are interested in me sending a Verizon GNex to you for ROM development.

anurag.dev1512 said:
its really hard to see your true self...
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Truer words have never been spoken.
Now please discontinue your whine, women & song and leave.