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GPS not working without Data Plan

Afters many hours searching the net and xda i could not find answers to these questions.
1) Does the rogers dream/g1 GPS work without a data plan? (using a standalone GPS app for example: CoPilot)
2) Does rogers Dream/G1 require data in order to initially find the satellites?
3) If you have no data plan are you able to get a lock on the satellites?
4) Can i manually enter my coordinates (longitude/latitude) for my gps in order to find the satellites quicker?
Here is what happened, i got fed up with rogers and decided to cancel my data plan (its just not worth paying 25$ for just 500mb per month). But since i canceled i noticed i am unable to find satellites for my GPS. Using multiple apps (GPS Test, GPS Status, CoPilot, etc...) none of them could get a lock on any satellites or even find one for that matter. I had my phone outside in a clear view of the sky when i was trying these apps.
By the way its not a hardware issue, because it worked before i canceled the data plan. I purchased the standalone map software called CoPilot in order for me to use when i canceled my data plan. (The US/CANADA maps are already installed on my sdcard).
Data was not important to me, since i quite often use my wifi, but not having my GPS working because i canceled my data is really making a paper weight out of my phone
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!, as i am sure that there are many other users who would like to have these questions answered before making the decision to cancel their data plan.

1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Yes.
4) No.
Note that robbers really screwed some things up badly on the latest "update" that they sent out for DREAM hardware -- along with locking the thing down to prevent you from fixing it yourself. I think they want to make it look like crap and be locked in to its obsolete version of Android permanently. They are obviously fishing for more service contracts. I wouldn't be surprised if they broke GPS.
Note: It could be that you just aren't in a spot to easily receive GPS.

Thank you for the response!!! lbcoder, and i am happy you kept your answers to a yes or no (that was exactly what i was looking for).
I was wondering if you could help me some more. Instead of doing the robbers 911 update, i followed the instructions from cyanogen to bypass this since i already had my phone rooted, i used this guide wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Upgrade_Rogers_Dream_Radio
Before i did this update i was running enomther rom and also wesgarner rom. Both worked flawlessly and GPS also worked with both. But once rogers sent out the 911 update, that's when i cancelled my data plan, and followed cyanogen instructions to bypass this.
1) Could it be that its cyanogen new v4.2.14.1 rom that is causing the issue of my gps not working?
2) What are other roms i can try that works with cyanogen new radio update?
Thanks again for your help!

ifactory said:
1) Could it be that its cyanogen new v4.2.14.1 rom that is causing the issue of my gps not working?
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Possible. Cyanogen isn't known for being particularly stable.
2) What are other roms i can try that works with cyanogen new radio update?
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I believe that you should be able to use ANY ROM that you like. The only issue is that the kernel you use must be compatible with that radio (i.e. built from the HTC source).
There is no guarantee, but there is a high likelihood that the appropriate kernel will work with pretty much any system image. So you should be able to switch out the boot.img and any kmods from any rom to make something that works.
Just be sure that you don't go messing with the radio or spl on your phone and keep a good nandroid backup in case you need to backtrack.
Now if you aren't comfortable making this kind of modification (i.e., if you have to ask....), then you might want to go searching for ROMs that are specifically listed as compatible. I don't have any robbers hardware, so I don't know which specific roms to suggest to you.

I was able to install two roms aside from cyanogen, using the new radio. One was by wesgarner and the other by benbuchacher. Both roms are not able to find any satellites for the gps.
So i can confirm this issue has nothing to do with the roms.
CAN ANYBODY CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO USE THEIR GPS WITH A ROGERS DREAM PHONE, WITH THEIR DATA PLAN CANCELED?

The G1 GPS uses ASSISTED location when it can, meaning when you use the GPS along with the data services it will be able to lock onto a signal pretty much instantaneously. If you turn off your data, if can take the GPS a LONG time to find location (I've seen it take upwards of 5 minutes.)

lbcoder said:
Possible. Cyanogen isn't known for being particularly stable.
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not sure which version were you using but Cyanogen is one of the best roms and stable ones, maybe you used the experimental version

lbcoder said:
Possible. Cyanogen isn't known for being particularly stable.
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GPS is working fine with & without data for the version of cyanogenmod mentioned.

pk198105 said:
not sure which version were you using but Cyanogen is one of the best roms and stable ones, maybe you used the experimental version
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Any of them. They're all bloated piggish things that barely work at all. Fine if you like bleeding edge and useless features. Not if you actually want your something productive.

it works fine.

Looking for some help...

..In picking out which is the best droid setup for me.
I was here months back when I setup droid on my Vogue(US Cellular) and over the course of a couple days of trying out different builds and testing, I found that Warm Doughnut was the best working one for me at the time. Unlike the Froyo build on here that I tried, doughnut's data connection worked fine (and right away) without any setup at all whereas I couldn't get it running for the life of me on Froyo.
However, I'm wanting to swap out past doughnut now to a more updated version of Android. Which would you all recommend? I've been reading some good reviews on the Gingerbread build... However, I'm worried about calls/sms/data and all of the other features... Which are working which aren't?
I'd have to have them all working (like current setup on doughnut) to make the switch, else it'll just be pointless for me.
Now I ask the same of the FroYo build on here. Before it worked fine for me, except the data functions... I couldn't get it to connect at all for the life of me.
So, I ask of you all with more experience with this phone than me. What would you suggest? What works for you? Doughnut, Froyo, or Gingerbread?
I want to get Froyo running if I can (about to put it back on and give it a go) but not having a data connection will kill the idea for me. And even better would be if I can get Gingerbread running, but only if I can get in/outgoing calls, sms, data, (gps hopefully) and bluetooth.
Thanks in advance for any/all support you guys can give me!

Superfroyo seems very stable and functional to me. I'm on Sprint. Even MMS works though you have to fiddle with it. Gingerbread's not all there yet stabilitywise.

goducks3620 said:
Superfroyo seems very stable and functional to me. I'm on Sprint. Even MMS works though you have to fiddle with it. Gingerbread's not all there yet stabilitywise.
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Thanks for the reply! I felt the same when I tried it out months ago, my only issue is getting the data running... Did you have to fiddle with yours a lot to get it working? I know you're on Sprint and I'm on US Cellular, but from what I can tell the two shouldn't be that different to setup. Maybe I didn't give it enough time/work before to get data running (or maybe I was doing it wrong).
Also, I'm going to be using it from my SD card (like I have previously) for a while and make sure its solid before I think about wiping my WM6.1 off and replacing it altogether. Doughnut worked fine off of the SD card, I'm assuming Froyo will as well? Didn't give it too much time before, but when I did have it going on the SD card before I didn't notice it chugging along at all.

Another thing, do I have to use WM6.5 to get this going, or is it ok using WM6.1 like I am? Would prefer not to have to redo (and backup all that nonsense) for my 6.1 if I don't have to.

I totally wiped windows mobile and run off nand. It's snappy enough and data worked straight off. No fiddling.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

Well, got Froyo running... But no data running yet... Enabled Data, enabled data while roaming (roaming majority of the time anyways) and nothing yet...
Ideas anyone?

M 5hizzle said:
Well, got Froyo running... But no data running yet... Enabled Data, enabled data while roaming (roaming majority of the time anyways) and nothing yet...
Ideas anyone?
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The typical question is: does it work in winmo?

[Q] CyanogenMod 7 ROM for Samsung Captivate

I ran into this article yesterday, How to Flash CyanogenMod 7 ROM Samsung Captivate AT&T, and felt it was about time to learn about this. Plenty of you have already ROOTED your phones, and know from experience, what to do. But, I don't. Right now, I'm stuck with the options of accepting things don't work right, because of AT'T's unwillingness, or inabilility, to correct the issues I have, or reinsiall new, and lose all I've put on, or send back to Samsung for repair, and have them lose all I have on it, or try Rooting and adding a ROM, that may solve my issues. But to do that, I need a little help in understanding it.
First, if I try and run a program, like CyanogenMod 7, and it doesn't work correctly, snd screws up my phone, is there a way I can reinstall Android, and start over, or is that the proverbial kiss of death for my Captivate, and I'm stuck with it like that?
Second, is this the right ROM to try? AT&T can't fix my BLOCKS, of UNKNOWN APPS. The Settings change is easy, you click on activating Unknown, in Application settings..., unless you have no UNKNOWN, to choose. Also, in MMS settings, AT&T shows in a tutorial, that you have the option, of activating Delivery Report and Read Report. It shows this as plain as day, on that tutorial for the Captivate, yet mine, has NEITHER OF THOSE OPTIONS. Also, to TURN ON EDGE, the setting is missing, so I can't activate EDGE, which I guess is no big thing, since the towers AT&T has for us to connect with, THAT ARE 2G, are in such poor condition, no one can connect to them. Thank you, WIFI, for helping me get, ONLINE. Will this, or other ROM's, solve this for me?
If there are any suggestions of how to do this, and what to use, I'd appreciate hearing it from you. Again, I thank any effort, to help me.

1.cm 7 would not be the best rom to flash for your first time.
2. All roms are android, you are running at&t/samsung version of an android rom...
3. Yes you can get back to your stock rom if you don't like/something goes wrong (other than a bad bootloader flash)
4.all custom roms have all the blocking done by at&t removed so switching to 2g(edge) is possible and also faster 3g speeds known as hspa. And unknown sources is in the settings so you can install apps from outside the market.
5.the threads at the top of every section with a little thumb tacks are called stickies, give those a read through.

Like he said above. If you want the pretty much stock experience that your used to but want it fixed then I would suggest starting off with Cognition 4.4 or whatever it is now.
Sent from My KickAss Captivated CM7 OC'd 1.55Ghz/Undervolted

From newbie to a newbie, I took the advice of others and read threads for atleast a month before I flashed my first rom. My choice was Andromeda3, It has a written tutorial and a video on how to from start to finish. From what tools or apps you will need and how to use them , I watched that atleast 6 times and also while I was flashing the kernel and the rom. It may have been overkill but my flash was perfect and I'm real happy with my phone now. You may not go with the same rom I did but do your self a favor and do what I did to prepare for your first flash.

[Q] No 3g with CM 10.1 plus some other less severe issues

Greetings,
Just a few days ago I installed the most recent CM 10.1 nightly, first 20130319 and now updated to 20130323. For the most part, my phone is working well, but I do not have any 3g data service nor have I had it since installing CM 10.1.
I have a Droid 3 XT862 being used in the US on Verizon's CDMA network and placing and receiving calls works. I *can* send and receive SMS as well, although in a test I did toay I sent very short 25 character text from my Droid 3 on the Verizon network to another Android device on the Sprint network and it arrived a mere 2h15m later.
I have read many messages on this forum and others, but either the problem addressed is too far removed or the ideas/changes suggested are offered with little explantion as to why, so I am unsure if making any of these changes would be a good idea. I did read through the build.prop on my device and it certainly appears that it is more or less configured and ready for CDMA usage. I have performed a *228 PRL update, but it did not appear to help. CM 10.1 makes available, unlike the stock ROM, a menu/page full of mobile network settings. I have tried to work with some of these settings, toggles, preferred network types, and so on, but again none of these changes seems to have had an effect on my 3g data connection.
Am I doing something wrong? Does anybody know how to fix this? Or perhaps it is a new/temporary bug in CM 10.1?
As for the operation of everything else under CM 10.1, I like it very much. It is a very big step up from before, when I was first using stock Android 2.3.4 followed by the Maverick ROM, which, while better, sure liked to crash/reboot when under memory pressure. I do have a few issues that I hope others might be able to help with:
* The hardware keyboard's ALT key does not appear to work anymore which rules out half the symbols on the keyboard, making it far less useful. I also cannot use it any longer with VX ConnectBot as some of the mappings do not seem to work. For example, the "OK" key used to work as a CTRL key. Maybe these are related? Any idea how to fix this?
* The backlight on the hard buttons and on the keyboard was, previously, triggered by a light sensor (I think). Now the backlight comes on when there is any tapping, swiping, or button/key activity. That's fine, except that the timeout for the light is extremely short, on the order of about two seconds. In a dark environment, this can be annoying.
* It's slow... my god is it slow! I think this is due almost entirely to a severe lack of free RAM on the device, but I don't know what to do about it. Some programs, like GMail, take forever to start, while many others are just very slow to use/respond. I see the "Not Responding" popup appear *much* more than ever before, but, as I know these apps are just slow and not dead, I always just tap on "wait" and go on with what I was doing.
I really don't think I have that much running in the background or foreground to use all of this RAM. I have replaced Trebuchet with NemusLauncher in hopes of freeing some memory. I have three widgets only: a clock/weather widget, the standard calendar widget, and the Google Voice inbox widget. In the background, besides whatever Android and CM run, I have Google Voice and imo (the instant messanger) running. I believe that is it. Is there *anything* I can do to improve the speed issue? I understand how Android handles memory, so it is clearly not about just increasing the "free RAM" value. That said, however, it seems that if there were fewer apps trying to use the limited memory then this would naturally be higher to begin with.
I have a decent collection of apps, but the number is much smaller than in the past and most all of them should remain dormant unless I actually run them... or so I believe.
Okay, so those are the issues. I could add battery life and the camera to that list, but I have read on the forum that, no thanks to Motorola, the camera is unlikely to be available anytime soon, and I have also read that the battery issues should be resolved soon.
So, um... please help! And great many thanks to all of the hard working devs who bring us better software and especially to those who help those of us with devices that are practically *new* and yet abandoned by the carriers. Extra kudos to those finding ways to work around locked bootloaders and proprietary binary blobs.
--John Gruenenfelder

Can you force it to EVDO only? And what happens in a stock ROM?

In the mobile network settings page, as mentioned above, I can, and have, tried many of the options. Among them is the preferred network type.
It defaults to 'global' which actually sets it to LTE/CDMA, though this is not an LTE device. I have tried all of the options that make sense (i.e. nothing GSM related). I have tried Evdo-only and currently have it set to 'CDMA/Evdo auto'.
None of these settings has changed anything. To test, I disable WiFi and see if I have a Net connection.
With the stock ROM, as well as the Maverick ROM, when I have 3g, the letters '3g' appear in the status bar next to the mobile signal strength icon and there are two small arrows to indicate I/O. This is what I expected to happen with CM.
-Sent from my XT862 using xda app-developers app

I have a 3g update, but no solution yet.
In the mobile net settings page I have the network set to 'CDMA/EvDo auto'. Then I turn on airplane mode to force the radio off, then turn airplane mode back off.
The radio comes back and as it does I can see the network strength icon briefly add an R, presumably meaning reconnecting, followed by a 1x, and finally by a 3g. Then the 3g disappears. This entire sequence takes only about 3 to 5 seconds. If I do this while viewing Settings->About->Phone, I can see the current radio/network states change. Of course, I do all of this with my local wifi connection off.
Also, I did try a network type of 'EvDo only' and the above sequence still occurred but without the 1x step. However, this sequence didn't seem to occur as reliably as when the network is set to 'CDMA/EvDo auto'. For reference, the phone info page under settings indicates that this phone or network is 'CDMA - EvDo rev. A:6'.
So, it would seem 3g is at least possible, if fleeting. What should I do now? I really don't want to stop using CM 10.1.
--John Gruenenfelder

Same issue here. No 3g. In the system status, it will briefly show the mobile network status as "connecting" then drop back to disconnected.

If you reboot into stock it works right?

MrObvious said:
If you reboot into stock it works right?
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Me or rocksolid99?
In my case, I, well, did not follow the correct Safestrap update procedure when I went from 1.x to 3.05. As such, I *think* my stock ROM may be slightly hosed. I *do* have a complete backup of the original stock that I created with Safestrap 1.x, but 3.05 does not "see" it when I tap on the "Restore" button in recovery. So, I have it, I'm just not sure what I should do if I really need to restore that backup.
However, I have installed the Minimoto 1.7 ROM into slot 2 in Safestrap 3.05 and if I use that ROM (which is a super stripped down Droid 3 stock) then 3g works just fine. I did not have any network/connection issues and did not need to take any extra steps to get 3g to work.
--John Gruenenfelder

I'm pretty sure data has not worked in cm10.1 since 3/11 build.
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Endoroid said:
I'm pretty sure data has not worked in cm10.1 since 3/11 build.
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Really? Good to know. Thanks for the info.
If I might reiterate on my other CM 10.1 problem, they keyboard? Right now, the ALT key does not work which means that I cannot access most of the punctuation keys. Strangely, in many apps when I press ALT I will see the cursor change with the upside down triangle at the top of the cursor bar indicating that ALT has been pressed. Good, but if I press any other key it is not recognized. It is as though I had not pressed anything. The ALT indicator doesn't even change or go away. The only thing I can do is continue to press the ALT key to cycle through its states (off, one-key, locked). Could this also be a bug in CM 10.1?
Is there a better or more correct location to submit these issues? Since these issues are/may be bugs in CM 10.1, should I not submit a bug report directly?
Beyond the 3g/data and keyboard issue is the RAM usage. It uses a *lot* of RAM. Is this just the way it is? The Droid 3 lacks enough RAM to really make a serious go at Android 4.2?
Thanks again!
--John Gruenenfelder

JetpackJohn said:
Is there a better or more correct location to submit these issues? Since these issues are/may be bugs in CM 10.1, should I not submit a bug report directly?
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As a matter of fact, there is: http://androidhosting.org:8050/projects/device-motorola-droid-3-xt862
Hashcode tweeted that last night...
Beyond the 3g/data and keyboard issue is the RAM usage. It uses a *lot* of RAM. Is this just the way it is? The Droid 3 lacks enough RAM to really make a serious go at Android 4.2?
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When Motorola hinted that this was the reason why the D3 and X2 would not get ICS, nobody believed them.
I think it's pretty clear that CM on the Droid 3 at the moment is alpha/beta status. If you want stability and full features, you need a Gingerbread ROM. Minimoto is best for me.

doogald said:
As a matter of fact, there is: http://androidhosting.org:8050/projects/device-motorola-droid-3-xt862
Hashcode tweeted that last night...
When Motorola hinted that this was the reason why the D3 and X2 would not get ICS, nobody believed them.
I think it's pretty clear that CM on the Droid 3 at the moment is alpha/beta status. If you want stability and full features, you need a Gingerbread ROM. Minimoto is best for me.
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+1 anything above gingerbread is not stable. Some people manage to use them for daily drivers but they have to deal with the bugs. Myself, I need a camera and I need my phone to work all day, I use it for my job. As such, I run minimoto, as it is quite stable, and any bugs that do arise can be dealt with as it's based on gingerbread, which is stable on our devices. Liberty is also a good rom to use, it's based on an older system version but it's quite stable and has lots of features, as opposed to Minimotos minimalist goal.
Sent from my XT860 using xda premium

has anyone tried making a swap partition for cm10.1 ?
I made it and it seems to be much much faster or the latest nightly (04/07/2013) is quicker.
anyhow I have it up only for about an hour it remains to be seen during the day how it's reacting
regards

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I'm pretty sure data has not worked in cm10.1 since 3/11 build.
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Have you (or has anyone) successfully booted CM10.1 on the XT860? I just get bootloops after install. MiniMoto has been working great for me though.

Am I the Only One with Trouble Tethering After Switch from Nougat to Oreo or Pie?

Tether was working fine on Nougat, after adjusting Windows with TTL, a changed user-agent, etc., and then in Android adding the "dun" parameter to my APN, but with any Oreo or Pie ROM, it gets incredibly slow, as if I do not have "dun" in my APN, even when using ROMs that allow "dun" in APN.
I'd really like to upgrade from Nougat, but don't want to give up tether.
Has anyone else faced this issue and prevailed?
EDIT:
I flashed OOS Oreo, tried what settings I could with no good results, then flashed 4.5.1 firmware and modem into it to see if older firmware was the solution, tried what settings I could to no avail.
Back on Nougat now, which does the job just fine.
Alas however, I may never be able to buy a new phone, unless Nougat can be installed onto it.

You're certainly not the only one. Tethering support is getting harder as carriers find ways of making it more restricted. There are ROMs and Devs that have worked on it with mixed results. It's possible with enough leg work you might get it working on a particular ROM, if you can get the dev to work with you on it. Otherwise it's luck of the draw whether you can find a ROM that will work in your particular case.
Telephony is getting complicated and there are more people concerned with VoLTE and the like. Look what a mess that still is on custom ROMs.

Does anyone know of any ROMs where this is actively being fixed? That is, one can tether without degradation, as one used to be able to do in Nougat? Tethering works, it's just horribly slow.

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Does anyone know of any ROMs where this is actively being fixed? That is, one can tether without degradation, as one used to be able to do in Nougat? Tethering works, it's just horribly slow.
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NLOS is your best bet. If it's not working already the dev is willing to work with users to resolve issues.
Here's an example of Tethering restrictions getting worse, with Google leading the charge:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/9r6r13/tether_dun_required_no_longer_works_on_pixel_3_xl/
I'm surprised Google don't get whiplash in their haste to bow to pressure from US Carriers.

Dirk said:
NLOS is your best bet. If it's not working already the dev is willing to work with users to resolve issues.
Here's an example of Tethering restrictions getting worse, with Google leading the charge:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/9r6r13/tether_dun_required_no_longer_works_on_pixel_3_xl/
I'm surprised Google don't get whiplash in their haste to bow to pressure from US Carriers.
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Thank you @Dirk, and agreed--I'm surprised google doesn't get backlash--maybe not enough people tether?
Also surprised that more devs didn't just immediately address that--maybe not enough devs tether?
I may try NLOS, or the Magisk module--it might work.
Does anyone using NLOS know if tether works properly? I will ask in that thread also.