Is it possible to flash roms or mods from the i9300 on this model, even if the 4g won't work? i know that they have in commen the same exynose chipset
No, they will make your phone burn
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No, they will make your phone burn
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I understand that it is common knowledge that the i9300's roms will not work with the i9305 without some modification but I just can't understand why. The only differences between the two is the amount of ram available and the LTE property of the i9305. Both of which shouldn't greatly effect the installation of a rom. I'd actually imagine that it'd make the rom run easier as there is more ram available.
Why isn't this the case?
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I understand that it is common knowledge that the i9300's roms will not work with the i9305 without some modification but I just can't understand why. The only differences between the two is the amount of ram available and the LTE property of the i9305. Both of which shouldn't greatly effect the installation of a rom. I'd actually imagine that it'd make the rom run easier as there is more ram available.
Why isn't this the case?
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I guess it hasn't reached the US. Once it does, I suppose it will become widely supported. I have spoken to some of the cyanogenmod devs and they say theyre not supporting the device anytime soon.
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I guess it hasn't reached the US. Once it does, I suppose it will become widely supported. I have spoken to some of the cyanogenmod devs and they say theyre not supporting the device anytime soon.
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My point was I don't understand why a i9300 rom wouldn't work on the i9305 as the only difference between the two is the extra ram and ability to use the 4g network. Both things which should only improve usability..
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My point was I don't understand why a i9300 rom wouldn't work on the i9305 as the only difference between the two is the extra ram and ability to use the 4g network. Both things which should only improve usability..
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different partitions. different kernels.
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My point was I don't understand why a i9300 rom wouldn't work on the i9305 as the only difference between the two is the extra ram and ability to use the 4g network. Both things which should only improve usability..
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I9305 also uses a different RIL. A Qualcomm RIL to be exact. Whereas the I9300 uses a Samsung RIL.
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I The only differences between the two is the amount of ram available and the LTE property of the i9305.
Why isn't this the case?
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and 'HSDPA, 42.2 Mbps' vs 'HSDPA, 21 Mbps'
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Hello.. I am about to upgrade my phone to a Galaxy S3 LTE titanium edition which is released by EE in UK.
But before I pull the trigger I have a few questions...
Will I be be able to use the same Rom made for the 3g version on my LTE GS3 Or will there be a specific section on xda for LTE version?
According to some websites there are a few hardware differences like 2gig of ram in LTE compared to 1gig n 3g.. Does anybody know any other hardware differences?
Thanks
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Hello.. I am about to upgrade my phone to a Galaxy S3 LTE titanium edition which is released by EE in UK.
But before I pull the trigger I have a few questions...
Will I be be able to use the same Rom made for the 3g version on my LTE GS3 Or will there be a specific section on xda for LTE version?
According to some websites there are a few hardware differences like 2gig of ram in LTE compared to 1gig n 3g.. Does anybody know any other hardware differences?
Thanks
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Use Google to search mate, it is the I9305. You should be able to find all your answers
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Use Google to search mate, it is the I9305. You should be able to find all your answers
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Cheers m8...
So would you suggest that I go for that options or the normal 3g.. Cause am not sure if 4G version will be supported by Modding community as much as 3g version..
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_ray_ said:
Cheers m8...
So would you suggest that I go for that options or the normal 3g.. Cause am not sure if 4G version will be supported by Modding community as much as 3g version..
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Nah it's not supported as much yet... I own an Australian i9305. The first stable AOSP roms are starting to emerge though!
I'm really hoping for a Slimbean rom though.
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Hello.. I am about to upgrade my phone to a Galaxy S3 LTE titanium edition which is released by EE in UK.
But before I pull the trigger I have a few questions...
Will I be be able to use the same Rom made for the 3g version on my LTE GS3 Or will there be a specific section on xda for LTE version?
According to some websites there are a few hardware differences like 2gig of ram in LTE compared to 1gig n 3g.. Does anybody know any other hardware differences?
Thanks
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Hm.. actually, the stock rom is very smooth and fast with that 2G ram in I9305, I don't think there is a need to use custom rom. The 1G ram really make the difference between i9300 and i9305.
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Hm.. actually, the stock rom is very smooth and fast with that 2G ram in I9305, I don't think there is a need to use custom rom. The 1G ram really make the difference between i9300 and i9305.
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cant agreed more with tht. unless u want more internal space, root it and remove the bloatware.
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cant agreed more with tht. unless u want more internal space, root it and remove the bloatware.
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Yea. That's why the rom development is not active in i9305 forum. I think there is no big room for improvement to the stock rom.
I think the only option that i missed from stock rom is the "auto switch to 2G network when the screen is off" function. Because the 2G network is really saving a lot of battery.
Currently I think only cm rom support the auto toggle of 2G and 3G networks.
However, nevermind now, my portable charger arrive now, I dont' need to save battery anymore. :laugh:
Really satisfied with this phone ( I came from xperia X10).
Hello guys i want to ask you if the 1GB extra ram that the i9305 has makes the phone faster or the speed remain the same. Also is it better on the overall performance than the i9300? Thank you..
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Hello guys i want to ask you if the 1GB extra ram that the i9305 has makes the phone faster or the speed remain the same. Also is it better on the overall performance than the i9300? Thank you..
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You see the ram is not mainly for speed but for multitasking so say i9300 can run 20 apps at a time then i9305 can run 40, this is highly inaccurate but shows what i mean. when apps are left open then they will be killed by a memory optimizer, which allows a certain amount of ram to be free. also i have heard that more ram is for the 4g aspect of the phone as it is said that 4g eats ram. power comes from cpu and gpu. so therefore speed will be the same except when to many apps are open when 2gb will be faster.
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You see the ram is not mainly for speed but for multitasking so say i9300 can run 20 apps at a time then i9305 can run 40, this is highly inaccurate but shows what i mean. when apps are left open then they will be killed by a memory optimizer, which allows a certain amount of ram to be free. also i have heard that more ram is for the 4g aspect of the phone as it is said that 4g eats ram. power comes from cpu and gpu. so therefore speed will be the same except when to many apps are open when 2gb will be faster.
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What you heard is wrong the ram has nothing to do with LTE and LTE does NOT use any extra ram then when i have it on 3G I cannot tell any difference what so ever.. And when i have had them compared side by side after 7 applications i have opened with the I9300 and the I9305.. well the I9300 started killing the 1st application out of the 7 that were open so when i click back into the application it has to reload all over again, where as the I9305 is instant, Also If you compare whats held in Cache memory Setting/Applications manager/ running> then click on show cached processes well even tho the i9305 has double the ram, the I9305 has almost 3x the apps stored in the Cache memory then the i9300..
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Although it wont be technically faster the device becomes alot more usable and alot more responsive I believe. My i9300 regularly was closing apps as it was generally hovering around 70-80MB free mark, the i9305 has around 500-600MB free at the moment, so its using more than 1GB RAM. I personally like the i9305 as it has more potential in the future.
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Although it wont be technically faster the device becomes alot more usable and alot more responsive I believe. My i9300 regularly was closing apps as it was generally hovering around 70-80MB free mark, the i9305 has around 500-600MB free at the moment, so its using more than 1GB RAM. I personally like the i9305 as it has more potential in the future.
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I actually today got it as an upgrade but i am already having i9300. And i am thinking which one to sell the i9300 (which has a lot of development, roms themes etc.) or the i9305 (less development) which basically the difference is the LTE.
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I actually today got it as an upgrade but i am already having i9300. And i am thinking which one to sell the i9300 (which has a lot of development, roms themes etc.) or the i9305 (less development) which basically the difference is the LTE.
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True i9300 has alot of dev support but what about in a years time? It is a tough decision but I think the i9305 is more future proof.
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I actually today got it as an upgrade but i am already having i9300. And i am thinking which one to sell the i9300 (which has a lot of development, roms themes etc.) or the i9305 (less development) which basically the difference is the LTE.
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the difference is not Only the LTE its the Ram aswell.. And most of the themes and mods from the i9300 are able to be put onto the I9305
@ yshaikh01 ...dude you must have so much memory eating applications because when I had my I9300 i had arouns 200-250mb free ram.... And now with the I9305 I have 1000-1050mb free ram
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the difference is not Only the LTE its the Ram aswell.. And most of the themes and mods from the i9300 are able to be put onto the I9305
@ yshaikh01 ...dude you must have so much memory eating applications because when I had my I9300 i had arouns 200-250mb free ram.... And now with the I9305 I have 1000-1050mb free ram
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So you are saying that all mods and themes working perfectly on i9305? which did you try ?
Thank you.
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So you are saying that all mods and themes working perfectly on i9305? which did you try ?
Thank you.
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I replied to the themes in your other thread but as for mods n stuff Ive tried the Camera mods, such as note2 and also the gallery, Popup browser, smart rotation all the 4.2 apps, acid sound mod, call recording mod, extended power menu, Crt off And more so alot are easily ported to the I9305 by only changing the partition location in the updater script if you goto the I9305 dev forum and check out the roms and there mods and tweaks. well most of them all came from the i9300 and were ported over.
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I replied to the themes in your other thread but as for mods n stuff Ive tried the Camera mods, such as note2 and also the gallery, Popup browser, smart rotation all the 4.2 apps, acid sound mod, call recording mod, extended power menu, Crt off And more so alot are easily ported to the I9305 by only changing the partition location in the updater script if you goto the I9305 dev forum and check out the roms and there mods and tweaks. well most of them all came from the i9300 and were ported over.
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You are saying about changing the partition location in the updater script what is the partition location for i9305?Actually what i should type there.
Thank you.
btemtd said:
the difference is not Only the LTE its the Ram aswell.. And most of the themes and mods from the i9300 are able to be put onto the I9305
@ yshaikh01 ...dude you must have so much memory eating applications because when I had my I9300 i had arouns 200-250mb free ram.... And now with the I9305 I have 1000-1050mb free ram
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You know I thought the same but I have not got that many apps installed, maybe around 25-30, maybe its the free games. I use Nova launcher with 4 home pages a clock widget some shortcuts, twitter widget, fav contacts widget, calender widget (google and exchange). Not sure why it uses so much RAM? Any pointers?
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IThis is what i should replace? -->run_program("/sbin/busybox", "umount", "/system");<-- or that -->package_extract_dir("system", "/system");
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IThis is what i should replace? -->run_program("/sbin/busybox", "umount", "/system");<-- or that -->package_extract_dir("system", "/system");
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No if it shows busybox and system thats Fine Aslong as you dont see a locations like mmcblk0p12 things like this... As these numbers are different in the I9305..
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No if it shows busybox and system thats Fine Aslong as you dont see a locations like mmcblk0p12 things like this... As these numbers are different in the I9305..
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Nice... Thanks again.
yshaikh01 said:
True i9300 has alot of dev support but what about in a years time? It is a tough decision but I think the i9305 is more future proof.
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I've been waiting for the 32Gb version of the i9305 (I already have the i9300 32Gb, but my wife would like to get one as well, so if I get the i9305, she gets mine).
I'm starting to hesitate because of the lack of activity in the i9305 subforums though..
The 16Gb version has been out for a few weeks already, and it's still very very quiet in those subforums.. will it really take off, or maybe too many people had already bought the i9300 and prefer waiting for a bigger upgrade to change phones (like S4)..
Yeh I was waiting for the 32GB but then I thought Stuff it may never come out as this was a later release and I think I may be right as it should be out by now its been over a month since release now. honestly I have a 64GB SD card which is a total of 80GB in my phone, Plus when 128GB MicroSD comes out I will have 140GB which is just crazy for a phone The only reason why it says the S3 only holds 64gb SD is because thats the largest available at the moment. And the Dev support is quite good for there not being much Devs that bought the device as they have bought the I9300 and do not want to spend more money on another phone. Well who cares because all the themes are transferable, most of the tweaks are aswell, even all the mods. Just go through the Roms in the I9305 dev forum and check out the mods and tweaks they have embedded and the only thing that you cannot interchange is rom and Kernel these have to be ported by someone who knows what they are doing. But most of the 4.1.1 mods are interchangable, So far we still dont have any AOSP/MIUI and CM10 Roms.. But back to your decision If you have to think about forking the money out for it then dont do it, it should be the kind of decision where you dont have to ask anyone for their opinion and just go out and buy it.
I made the mistake of getting the i9300 2 weeks ago, I had no idea there was a 2gb version and my mobile provider didn't have it in stock nor did any other store.
2 weeks later it starts to get available in most stores around here
Had I known about the i9305, I would have waited. Too late for me now.
There's probably newer gonna be as much developer support for the i9305, and keep in mind it's probably less than half a year before the new galaxy is out, so most people will be waiting for that (including me). I even read that Samsung will show the next Galaxy even eralier on the MWC in February.
1gb ram really sucks and I definitely feel the lack so I would take the 2gb any day.
I would say you don't need CM10 and all the custom ROMS because with quadcore and 2gb RAM, the phone runs beautifully.
Only reason I have a custom rom is because with the stock rom, I cannot open more than 3 apps without them being closed after a few minutes of inactivity because the ram is always full. AOSP roms are better because they use less ram but when you have 2gb at your disposal, it really doesn't matter.
Get the the i9305. Or just wait for the s4.
Guys don't fool yourself and keep your money in your pocket instead of hurrying to sell your i9300 to get a i9305. The Galaxy S4 is already in the making so no way the i9305 is more future proof than the i9300. Most people here just want the latest and the greatest and won't be holding on to the i9305 when the S4 gets released. So just save yourself some money and stick with the i9300 for now.
Yeah but the s4 is still around 6 months away, I would not wait as when that time approaches there will probably be somehting else out there that is even better. It is just a vicious circle, if you go down that route you will be waiting forwever.
If you are on a contract and have an upgrade available then go for the 9305, if you can sell your 9300 for a good price and then add a little to get the 9305 then it is probably worth doing as the 9300 is only going to drop in price, OK the 9305 will also but as it has LTE it will hold its value a little more as people will be prepared to pay that little bit extra to get LTE and 2gb of Ram. The market wil be flooded with 9300's next year as there are so many of them about but not so many LTE 9305's!
Just my view and I have both and am not selling either!
I would be surprised if the S4 gets released in 6 months... LOL all these people waiting then in 6 months time they hear the word saying its another 6 months away so then they say to themselves AGAIN might aswell wait for it now its only 6 months away lool.
I wouldnt believe any of the sources you here.
Anyways good luck
Hey there.
currently rocking the international i9300 S3 - but have the option to xfer over to an i9305T for free.
i understand the hardware differences between the two, namely the RAM increase and LTE.
my main concern is custom firmware - ive done a fair bit of reading, but i notice that CM10 is still unofficial on this device, and being an AOSP junkie im just wondering peoples opinion on how popular this device will be in comparison to the i9300 (mainly PA and CM i suppose).
Sorry if this has been covered, but i couldnt find anything really relating the two, or any hard word about CM/PA and timeframes/official support etc etc or what will be required before there is a version of either blah blah.
Thanks a lot!
I wouldn't do it. I regret that I picked the i9305 over the i9300... barely any custom roms out there fpr the i9305 :S
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diz_dizane said:
Hey there.
currently rocking the international i9300 S3 - but have the option to xfer over to an i9305T for free.
i understand the hardware differences between the two, namely the RAM increase and LTE.
my main concern is custom firmware - ive done a fair bit of reading, but i notice that CM10 is still unofficial on this device, and being an AOSP junkie im just wondering peoples opinion on how popular this device will be in comparison to the i9300 (mainly PA and CM i suppose).
Sorry if this has been covered, but i couldnt find anything really relating the two, or any hard word about CM/PA and timeframes/official support etc etc or what will be required before there is a version of either blah blah.
Thanks a lot!
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Unless you really want LTE speeds, then I wouldnt bother.
I came from a SGS2. I want going to bother with a G3. Til I saw the 9305 had two gig of team on board. The are users with both phones. And the 4g is quicker. ..
Sure there is less choice.. But I'm very happy on ripper rom.
But it's much more complicated to EFS secure. . That weighed more heavily than the lack of rom choice after I acquired mine.
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No real CM10 (yet), but the current custom roms are pretty good. The 2gig ram is always good to have.
Though they're unloading them like hot cakes because everyone expects S4 to be released in 5 months or so. I believe this is some kind of a plan recontract?
Why does this phone make slower progress in compared to others? I wonder if it is a misconception that we can just take a normal s3 rom and add 4g band? Even low end phone have official CM and this phone doesnt? Can someone answer my queries? Thanks.
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Why does this phone make slower progress in compared to others? I wonder if it is a misconception that we can just take a normal s3 rom and add 4g band? Even low end phone have official CM and this phone doesnt? Can someone answer my queries? Thanks.
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It isn't, this phone is basically an S3 with a different radio or a Note 2 with a different screen. Same progress can mostly be applied across all 3 devices, it just requires someone that knows how to do it. Just look at how much codeworkx has done on CM 10.1 for I9305 in the past week or so, he doesn't even have the device yet he was able to more or less bring it up to speed with the aforementioned devices due to it being so very similar.
Unfortunately, since it is so similar it will also suffer the same problems as the other devices. Such as graphics glitches and worsened battery performance (than compared to official) due to badly documented RIL from Samsungs part.
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It isn't, this phone is basically an S3 with a different radio or a Note 2 with a different screen. Same progress can mostly be applied across all 3 devices, it just requires someone that knows how to do it. Just look at how much codeworkx has done on CM 10.1 for I9305 in the past week or so, he doesn't even have the device yet he was able to more or less bring it up to speed with the aforementioned devices due to it being so very similar.
Unfortunately, since it is so similar it will also suffer the same problems as the other devices. Such as graphics glitches and worsened battery performance (than compared to official) due to badly documented RIL from Samsungs part.
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I have also been following codeworkx cm 10.1 progression over the past few weeks, and I was curious as to know how it would make it faster/easier to build if we have the "source code" from Samsung. Is it a similar process with changing chips in cars where certain values and percentages are needed to make particular parts work instead of trying to experiment??
Thank you in advance
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I have also been following codeworkx cm 10.1 progression over the past few weeks, and I was curious as to know how it would make it faster/easier to build if we have the "source code" from Samsung. Is it a similar process with changing chips in cars where certain values and percentages are needed to make particular parts work instead of trying to experiment??
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Partially, it's more like trying to install a new engine into a completely invisible car where you can only barely feel the parts and the only way of knowing if you've done it correctly is if the car works.
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Partially, it's more like trying to install a new engine into a completely invisible car where you can only barely feel the parts and the only way of knowing if you've done it correctly is if the car works.
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Ok that sorta makes sense, but I would think there would be some way to like "reverse engineer" a rom from a stock standard one? Or is that just a silly assumption??
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Ok that sorta makes sense, but I would think there would be some way to like "reverse engineer" a rom from a stock standard one? Or is that just a silly assumption??
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The people with those skills are few and hard to find. Besides, it takes way too much time for something that legally has to be provided to us anyway.
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The people with those skills are few and hard to find. Besides, it takes way too much time for something that legally has to be provided to us anyway.
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Umm what do you mean it "legally has to be provided to us"
Is this the source code or is it something else??
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=9305
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I'm looking to buy an S3 and I really can't decide. My carrier now only sells the i9305, and when I want warranty, I would have to stick with them - used i9300 prices in my region match or surpass the carrier's price for i9305.
My only gripe with the i9305 is that I don't really see too much development going on. Sure, there is CM, but with my current trusty old SGS I saw that CM/AOSP mods can bring so much difference - like SlimRom for example.
Are there quality ROMs out there, will there be a strong support later on?
I doubt that i9305 users are familiar with i9000 development
Development i see devs as more likely to switch to SGS4 rather than take on I9305 .
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Theres plenty of 9305 roms.. 95% of functionality of the 9300.. Your not missing out on anything over the gain through having more RAM etc..
9305 will continue to be developed and at less regular intervals the updates will be aligned to a great degree with 9300 functionality wise.. Sure a few of the ROMS that are for 9300 would be awesome for the 9305 but mainly visuallly i guess..
Then again the 9305 roms a few of which are outstanding in their own right !
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Theres plenty of 9305 roms.. 95% of functionality of the 9300.
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not true at all
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How come i tested many I9305 roms and the all have and work very nice so no problems here, your statement is incorect, i was having the same problem and i got i9305 and i'm very happy, the devs we got working for i9305 are fewer but they are some of the best, and just look at the version numbers on romes and you will see that they work to improve! I love my I9305 and I don't ever look back , for not taking a I9300 even if some friend cald me crazy because i didn't get a S4 but in the end i was right not trowing the money out the window.
So if you want an S3 get the I9305 and you will no regret it (i came from i9000 and must say that i look at i9001 and i9003 and they still got a good dev team after all this years so way not i9305 , some really think that a phones has a bad dev after they trie only 1-2 roms).
If you don't need 4g you will even get a better battery life that the i9300.
my statement is fine. There is more than 5% difference in development between these to devices. It's far more
I think mick was saying that there's 95% functionality, not 95% of ROMs, numerically speaking. Since there's massive overlap of features among many different ROMs, what he's saying might not be so far off...
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95 percent of functionality can be achieved with like two ROMs. that's a very bad indicator for a development support
Yes 95% of funcitonality.. not roms, not close sure.. but given the overlap and given the benefits.. well i personally don't feel i'm missing out and any 'feature' that comes to the 9300, well lol 95% are at some point integrated.. If you want to be first cab of the ranks just for ROM purposes then go tthe 9300.. Also keep in mind yes only a few ROMS have the majoirty of features but these roms and now with the new kernals for 4.2.2 work a treat and a very customisible/configurable..
If someone could likst features they believe don't exist for 9305 that are really valuable ones i'd love to hear about them.. Otherwise it's just athesics which isn't to be underestimated but not a game changer givne what is available..
pretty much sums up my view and very happy with 9305 roms.. Ok sure would love three times the number but again not really missing out and 2gig ram is great.. oh only peeve for me is no FM radio which does suck but with 4g here etc download speeds make up for any shortfall and i can also utilise tunein radio or the like..
Anyway rant over guys! Happy hunting