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Hello to everyone, I've recently started searching to buy a new phone and I saw Galaxy S and Galaxy S Plus. I saw that GS+ is 40% faster than the original one but I also heard that the GS consumes less RAM and that the GS+ lags a lot more.
Also, I saw that 9000 has a wider community and support and that it even has more payable games from gameloft than the 9001!
And so, I'm a bit confused, that's why I'm asking for advice. Thanks a lot in advance!
hi,
it really depends on whether we get ics ported for sgs+ or not.
if you just compare the hardware of both sgs+ will easily win, but the community is much bigger for sgs (we neither have any finished cm7 port nor ics, but both are maybe coming).
Thanks for your answer! I also happened to see people say that GS+ lags more than the original GS (both on GB) and people saying that it looks like samsung doesn't give much support to it, unlike the GS. That's what has been making me wonder.
If you are not planning to upgrade from stock rom(wich I dont advise) you should go with the SGS+.
Like annqx said there is a much better communitx for SGS, there are a lot more roms for it.
Sorry for my late reply, I had internet issues the whole week, anyway, I see, maybe then I'm going for the SGS+, since it's newer, I believe it will get more popular in the future. Thanks a lot for your answers!
Not sure it will get that much more popular. Remember galaxy s was top end phone at one point. Now replaced by s2, and soon s3. Just my opinion but could be wrong.
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Well having used both phones and still using S version i would personaly say S as you already know about modding obviously being part of this community .
S+ is better on paper and thats what it only is , unless some drastic change in modding com and suddenly many devs appear for S+...
S with CM7/9 is just to good of phone ...
I'm satisfied with my S Plus. In my opinion it is a good fast phone
And not to forget, GPS is better in the S Plus, many people had problems on that with the SGS.
I9000 is better than I9001 because it have better dev support, better gpu and cpu .
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Hello guys i want to ask you if the 1GB extra ram that the i9305 has makes the phone faster or the speed remain the same. Also is it better on the overall performance than the i9300? Thank you..
apoellitsi said:
Hello guys i want to ask you if the 1GB extra ram that the i9305 has makes the phone faster or the speed remain the same. Also is it better on the overall performance than the i9300? Thank you..
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You see the ram is not mainly for speed but for multitasking so say i9300 can run 20 apps at a time then i9305 can run 40, this is highly inaccurate but shows what i mean. when apps are left open then they will be killed by a memory optimizer, which allows a certain amount of ram to be free. also i have heard that more ram is for the 4g aspect of the phone as it is said that 4g eats ram. power comes from cpu and gpu. so therefore speed will be the same except when to many apps are open when 2gb will be faster.
pashinator said:
You see the ram is not mainly for speed but for multitasking so say i9300 can run 20 apps at a time then i9305 can run 40, this is highly inaccurate but shows what i mean. when apps are left open then they will be killed by a memory optimizer, which allows a certain amount of ram to be free. also i have heard that more ram is for the 4g aspect of the phone as it is said that 4g eats ram. power comes from cpu and gpu. so therefore speed will be the same except when to many apps are open when 2gb will be faster.
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What you heard is wrong the ram has nothing to do with LTE and LTE does NOT use any extra ram then when i have it on 3G I cannot tell any difference what so ever.. And when i have had them compared side by side after 7 applications i have opened with the I9300 and the I9305.. well the I9300 started killing the 1st application out of the 7 that were open so when i click back into the application it has to reload all over again, where as the I9305 is instant, Also If you compare whats held in Cache memory Setting/Applications manager/ running> then click on show cached processes well even tho the i9305 has double the ram, the I9305 has almost 3x the apps stored in the Cache memory then the i9300..
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Although it wont be technically faster the device becomes alot more usable and alot more responsive I believe. My i9300 regularly was closing apps as it was generally hovering around 70-80MB free mark, the i9305 has around 500-600MB free at the moment, so its using more than 1GB RAM. I personally like the i9305 as it has more potential in the future.
Thanks
yshaikh01 said:
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Although it wont be technically faster the device becomes alot more usable and alot more responsive I believe. My i9300 regularly was closing apps as it was generally hovering around 70-80MB free mark, the i9305 has around 500-600MB free at the moment, so its using more than 1GB RAM. I personally like the i9305 as it has more potential in the future.
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I actually today got it as an upgrade but i am already having i9300. And i am thinking which one to sell the i9300 (which has a lot of development, roms themes etc.) or the i9305 (less development) which basically the difference is the LTE.
apoellitsi said:
I actually today got it as an upgrade but i am already having i9300. And i am thinking which one to sell the i9300 (which has a lot of development, roms themes etc.) or the i9305 (less development) which basically the difference is the LTE.
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True i9300 has alot of dev support but what about in a years time? It is a tough decision but I think the i9305 is more future proof.
Thanks
apoellitsi said:
I actually today got it as an upgrade but i am already having i9300. And i am thinking which one to sell the i9300 (which has a lot of development, roms themes etc.) or the i9305 (less development) which basically the difference is the LTE.
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the difference is not Only the LTE its the Ram aswell.. And most of the themes and mods from the i9300 are able to be put onto the I9305
@ yshaikh01 ...dude you must have so much memory eating applications because when I had my I9300 i had arouns 200-250mb free ram.... And now with the I9305 I have 1000-1050mb free ram
btemtd said:
the difference is not Only the LTE its the Ram aswell.. And most of the themes and mods from the i9300 are able to be put onto the I9305
@ yshaikh01 ...dude you must have so much memory eating applications because when I had my I9300 i had arouns 200-250mb free ram.... And now with the I9305 I have 1000-1050mb free ram
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So you are saying that all mods and themes working perfectly on i9305? which did you try ?
Thank you.
apoellitsi said:
So you are saying that all mods and themes working perfectly on i9305? which did you try ?
Thank you.
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I replied to the themes in your other thread but as for mods n stuff Ive tried the Camera mods, such as note2 and also the gallery, Popup browser, smart rotation all the 4.2 apps, acid sound mod, call recording mod, extended power menu, Crt off And more so alot are easily ported to the I9305 by only changing the partition location in the updater script if you goto the I9305 dev forum and check out the roms and there mods and tweaks. well most of them all came from the i9300 and were ported over.
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I replied to the themes in your other thread but as for mods n stuff Ive tried the Camera mods, such as note2 and also the gallery, Popup browser, smart rotation all the 4.2 apps, acid sound mod, call recording mod, extended power menu, Crt off And more so alot are easily ported to the I9305 by only changing the partition location in the updater script if you goto the I9305 dev forum and check out the roms and there mods and tweaks. well most of them all came from the i9300 and were ported over.
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You are saying about changing the partition location in the updater script what is the partition location for i9305?Actually what i should type there.
Thank you.
btemtd said:
the difference is not Only the LTE its the Ram aswell.. And most of the themes and mods from the i9300 are able to be put onto the I9305
@ yshaikh01 ...dude you must have so much memory eating applications because when I had my I9300 i had arouns 200-250mb free ram.... And now with the I9305 I have 1000-1050mb free ram
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You know I thought the same but I have not got that many apps installed, maybe around 25-30, maybe its the free games. I use Nova launcher with 4 home pages a clock widget some shortcuts, twitter widget, fav contacts widget, calender widget (google and exchange). Not sure why it uses so much RAM? Any pointers?
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IThis is what i should replace? -->run_program("/sbin/busybox", "umount", "/system");<-- or that -->package_extract_dir("system", "/system");
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apoellitsi said:
IThis is what i should replace? -->run_program("/sbin/busybox", "umount", "/system");<-- or that -->package_extract_dir("system", "/system");
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No if it shows busybox and system thats Fine Aslong as you dont see a locations like mmcblk0p12 things like this... As these numbers are different in the I9305..
btemtd said:
No if it shows busybox and system thats Fine Aslong as you dont see a locations like mmcblk0p12 things like this... As these numbers are different in the I9305..
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Nice... Thanks again.
yshaikh01 said:
True i9300 has alot of dev support but what about in a years time? It is a tough decision but I think the i9305 is more future proof.
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I've been waiting for the 32Gb version of the i9305 (I already have the i9300 32Gb, but my wife would like to get one as well, so if I get the i9305, she gets mine).
I'm starting to hesitate because of the lack of activity in the i9305 subforums though..
The 16Gb version has been out for a few weeks already, and it's still very very quiet in those subforums.. will it really take off, or maybe too many people had already bought the i9300 and prefer waiting for a bigger upgrade to change phones (like S4)..
Yeh I was waiting for the 32GB but then I thought Stuff it may never come out as this was a later release and I think I may be right as it should be out by now its been over a month since release now. honestly I have a 64GB SD card which is a total of 80GB in my phone, Plus when 128GB MicroSD comes out I will have 140GB which is just crazy for a phone The only reason why it says the S3 only holds 64gb SD is because thats the largest available at the moment. And the Dev support is quite good for there not being much Devs that bought the device as they have bought the I9300 and do not want to spend more money on another phone. Well who cares because all the themes are transferable, most of the tweaks are aswell, even all the mods. Just go through the Roms in the I9305 dev forum and check out the mods and tweaks they have embedded and the only thing that you cannot interchange is rom and Kernel these have to be ported by someone who knows what they are doing. But most of the 4.1.1 mods are interchangable, So far we still dont have any AOSP/MIUI and CM10 Roms.. But back to your decision If you have to think about forking the money out for it then dont do it, it should be the kind of decision where you dont have to ask anyone for their opinion and just go out and buy it.
I made the mistake of getting the i9300 2 weeks ago, I had no idea there was a 2gb version and my mobile provider didn't have it in stock nor did any other store.
2 weeks later it starts to get available in most stores around here
Had I known about the i9305, I would have waited. Too late for me now.
There's probably newer gonna be as much developer support for the i9305, and keep in mind it's probably less than half a year before the new galaxy is out, so most people will be waiting for that (including me). I even read that Samsung will show the next Galaxy even eralier on the MWC in February.
1gb ram really sucks and I definitely feel the lack so I would take the 2gb any day.
I would say you don't need CM10 and all the custom ROMS because with quadcore and 2gb RAM, the phone runs beautifully.
Only reason I have a custom rom is because with the stock rom, I cannot open more than 3 apps without them being closed after a few minutes of inactivity because the ram is always full. AOSP roms are better because they use less ram but when you have 2gb at your disposal, it really doesn't matter.
Get the the i9305. Or just wait for the s4.
Guys don't fool yourself and keep your money in your pocket instead of hurrying to sell your i9300 to get a i9305. The Galaxy S4 is already in the making so no way the i9305 is more future proof than the i9300. Most people here just want the latest and the greatest and won't be holding on to the i9305 when the S4 gets released. So just save yourself some money and stick with the i9300 for now.
Yeah but the s4 is still around 6 months away, I would not wait as when that time approaches there will probably be somehting else out there that is even better. It is just a vicious circle, if you go down that route you will be waiting forwever.
If you are on a contract and have an upgrade available then go for the 9305, if you can sell your 9300 for a good price and then add a little to get the 9305 then it is probably worth doing as the 9300 is only going to drop in price, OK the 9305 will also but as it has LTE it will hold its value a little more as people will be prepared to pay that little bit extra to get LTE and 2gb of Ram. The market wil be flooded with 9300's next year as there are so many of them about but not so many LTE 9305's!
Just my view and I have both and am not selling either!
I would be surprised if the S4 gets released in 6 months... LOL all these people waiting then in 6 months time they hear the word saying its another 6 months away so then they say to themselves AGAIN might aswell wait for it now its only 6 months away lool.
I wouldnt believe any of the sources you here.
Anyways good luck
I'm starting to get a little twitchy as to weather it was a good idea or not to get the lte version?
I'm really beginning to think that development isnt looking good for us. At the moment all we have is roms with lots of options but not roms from major cooks like darky rom, miui, cyanogen, etc?
No disrespect to the devs that are making roms but I do feel that there isn't a big enough audience to warrant devs developing/porting roms for this handset?
What do you think?
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yeah the i9305 development is nothing compared to the i9300, unfortunately
Well the s3 has been out longer so I would expect there to be a lot more roms for it but there don't seem to be much buzz about the lte?
I thought having 2 gig of ram would of been tempting to a Dev to make a super fast smooth rom but it seems the difference between the two is quite a lot!
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yes, it's surprising and disappointing. I wouldn't expect much change, because soon the devs' attention will shift towards the newer devices like the s4
Glebun said:
yes, it's surprising and disappointing. I wouldn't expect much change, because soon the devs' attention will shift towards the newer devices like the s4
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Luckily our device is so much like the S3 and Note 2 LTE that that doesn't really matter, all we need is a little push over the edge and we'll at least have CyanogenMod builds.
Yeah, its the only reason I have not bought one yet Seriously, CM will be a beast on this phone if it ever gets ported
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Was seriously looking at the N4 but all the shortcomings (fixed battery, breaking glass, short battery life and no ext sd) make me come back to the S3.
cenonmin said:
Yeah, its the only reason I have not bought one yet Seriously, CM will be a beast on this phone if it ever gets ported
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Was seriously looking at the N4 but all the shortcomings (fixed battery, breaking glass, short battery life and no ext sd) make me come back to the S3.
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Don't forget the half-arsed build overall, I mean including a deactivated LTE modem just screams "unfinished" to me.
Hello there XDA!
I have just bought this phone after realising that I just can't stand the terrible piece of thing, HTC Desire Z anymore. Saw the unveiling of the S4 and wasn't too impressed and decided to just get the S3.
I haven't got the S3 yet though, will receive it sometime in the next 2-3 days.
Anyway, got a two questions here..
1) Why are there very little support for the I9305 version of the S3 on XDA compared to the I9300? (Android Development sub-forum, by the way) I was going to get the I9300 because of this but the store I went to didn't have them anymore. I really am planning to have this phone for a long time but the lack of support here worries me.
2) What is the best mod and ROM to use on the device? I will be rooting this. I'm looking for a smooth experience using the device as well as a quite decent battery life. I want to know the general opinions on here on which is the best rom.
That's all folks! Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
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Hello there XDA!
I have just bought this phone after realising that I just can't stand the terrible piece of thing, HTC Desire Z anymore. Saw the unveiling of the S4 and wasn't too impressed and decided to just get the S3.
I haven't got the S3 yet though, will receive it sometime in the next 2-3 days.
Anyway, got a two questions here..
1) Why are there very little support for the I9305 version of the S3 on XDA compared to the I9300? (Android Development sub-forum, by the way) I was going to get the I9300 because of this but the store I went to didn't have them anymore. I really am planning to have this phone for a long time but the lack of support here worries me.
2) What is the best mod and ROM to use on the device? I will be rooting this. I'm looking for a smooth experience using the device as well as a quite decent battery life. I want to know the general opinions on here on which is the best rom.
That's all folks! Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
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CyanogenMod, but really I would have gone with a Nexus 4 or Xperia Z at this time.
Rekoil said:
CyanogenMod, but really I would have gone with a Nexus 4 or Xperia Z at this time.
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Nexus 4 had no removable storage and the Xperia Z is a tad bit overpriced here so, S3 was the way to go. Plus the specifications on the S3 is good enough for me especially the screen size, I don't really need a 1080p screen.
Thanks anyway!
If you want a Stock ROM but optimised, go for Wanamlite.
CyanogenMOD is AOSP so you'd lose some Samsung features and the camera isn't as great.
BTW, great to see more Bruneians here on XDA!
I'm on ripper rom themed with domination. OC'ed to 1.5 with yank kernel.
Getting 5.30h on screen time heavy use.
I tried cyanogen on my normal 9300 but battery time : waaaay too weak. +lots of lag.
So don't really like it.
soulzero said:
I'm on ripper rom themed with domination. OC'ed to 1.5 with yank kernel.
Getting 5.30h on screen time heavy use.
I tried cyanogen on my normal 9300 but battery time : waaaay too weak. +lots of lag.
So don't really like it.
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auralzx said:
If you want a Stock ROM but optimised, go for Wanamlite.
CyanogenMOD is AOSP so you'd lose some Samsung features and the camera isn't as great.
BTW, great to see more Bruneians here on XDA!
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Hello fellow countryman!
Well, seems like I've got two roms to try out. I want to experience Touchwiz for a little bit because I've used CM roms on my previous phone for the whole time. Thanks guys!
there are many roms in xda，have a try.
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libo39 said:
there are many roms in xda,have a try.
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I would actually try most, if not all, if I could but unfortunately, internet speed is pretty terrible at times..
the second question is against the rules.
You will love the s3 lte and from my experience the best ROM for overall is pandoriam which has a lot to offer in terms of performance and customization with all the goodies from stock.
Anyways enjoy one of the best phones on the market if not the best!
Sent from a Galaxy far away!!
again, DON'T discuss which ROM is best
I'm sorry. I've only read that a few days after I made this thread.
Anyways, currently enjoying the smooth and fluid experience with RipperROM as well as the CrossBreeder mod. I am really loving this phone so far. Huge step up from my previous phone, Desire Z.
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wafiyphd said:
Nexus 4 had no removable storage and the Xperia Z is a tad bit overpriced here so, S3 was the way to go. Plus the specifications on the S3 is good enough for me especially the screen size, I don't really need a 1080p screen.
Thanks anyway!
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It's not a matter of specifications, the specs are good enough. The problem is that Samsung don't support the developers by releasing the source code they need in order to properly port CyanogenMod and AOSP-based ROMs to their devices. What this means is that devices with an Exynos4 processor, such as our lovely I9305s, will never get officially stable CyanogenMod or any other AOSP-based ROMs like ParanoidAndroid or AOKP, there are just too many blanks to fill. With an Exynos4-based device you can expect to live with graphics glitches, higher than normal battery drain from modem, and no project butter support. Presuming Samsung doesn't eventually release the source (seeming more and more unlikely now that the Exynos4 isn't even their top-of-the-line processor).
Yeah, I can see how that's a problem. I think the same thing happened with Desire Z where HTC did not give out the source code for the camera or something..
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again, DON'T discuss which ROM is best
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Ok, so his question was against the rules, but the responses weren't necessarily. The second one didn't say what was the best, it said what the poster was using.
Factual information about a ROM is very different than pure speculation about what's the best.
Did it really make your life worse having those two helpful posts on this thread for the guy?
I'm looking to buy an S3 and I really can't decide. My carrier now only sells the i9305, and when I want warranty, I would have to stick with them - used i9300 prices in my region match or surpass the carrier's price for i9305.
My only gripe with the i9305 is that I don't really see too much development going on. Sure, there is CM, but with my current trusty old SGS I saw that CM/AOSP mods can bring so much difference - like SlimRom for example.
Are there quality ROMs out there, will there be a strong support later on?
I doubt that i9305 users are familiar with i9000 development
Development i see devs as more likely to switch to SGS4 rather than take on I9305 .
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Theres plenty of 9305 roms.. 95% of functionality of the 9300.. Your not missing out on anything over the gain through having more RAM etc..
9305 will continue to be developed and at less regular intervals the updates will be aligned to a great degree with 9300 functionality wise.. Sure a few of the ROMS that are for 9300 would be awesome for the 9305 but mainly visuallly i guess..
Then again the 9305 roms a few of which are outstanding in their own right !
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Theres plenty of 9305 roms.. 95% of functionality of the 9300.
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not true at all
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How come i tested many I9305 roms and the all have and work very nice so no problems here, your statement is incorect, i was having the same problem and i got i9305 and i'm very happy, the devs we got working for i9305 are fewer but they are some of the best, and just look at the version numbers on romes and you will see that they work to improve! I love my I9305 and I don't ever look back , for not taking a I9300 even if some friend cald me crazy because i didn't get a S4 but in the end i was right not trowing the money out the window.
So if you want an S3 get the I9305 and you will no regret it (i came from i9000 and must say that i look at i9001 and i9003 and they still got a good dev team after all this years so way not i9305 , some really think that a phones has a bad dev after they trie only 1-2 roms).
If you don't need 4g you will even get a better battery life that the i9300.
my statement is fine. There is more than 5% difference in development between these to devices. It's far more
I think mick was saying that there's 95% functionality, not 95% of ROMs, numerically speaking. Since there's massive overlap of features among many different ROMs, what he's saying might not be so far off...
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95 percent of functionality can be achieved with like two ROMs. that's a very bad indicator for a development support
Yes 95% of funcitonality.. not roms, not close sure.. but given the overlap and given the benefits.. well i personally don't feel i'm missing out and any 'feature' that comes to the 9300, well lol 95% are at some point integrated.. If you want to be first cab of the ranks just for ROM purposes then go tthe 9300.. Also keep in mind yes only a few ROMS have the majoirty of features but these roms and now with the new kernals for 4.2.2 work a treat and a very customisible/configurable..
If someone could likst features they believe don't exist for 9305 that are really valuable ones i'd love to hear about them.. Otherwise it's just athesics which isn't to be underestimated but not a game changer givne what is available..
pretty much sums up my view and very happy with 9305 roms.. Ok sure would love three times the number but again not really missing out and 2gig ram is great.. oh only peeve for me is no FM radio which does suck but with 4g here etc download speeds make up for any shortfall and i can also utilise tunein radio or the like..
Anyway rant over guys! Happy hunting