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Hi,
Seeing how well all the modifications to my phone are doing, I would like to start experimenting with overclocking a bit.
I have FroyoPro v2.5 installed, which is based on FroyoBread, so I would guess that overclocking on FroyoBread would have more or less the same effects as on FroyoPro. I'm on stock kernel, so overclocking would have to be done via modules. Overclock and undervolt modules are already resident in the system, but are not active as long as I don't rename them to their actual extensions.
So, what experiences do you guys have with overclocking on these two systems? Is it a good thing to do, or perhaps something to better avoid?
I've read somewhere that Froyo ROMs behave badly when an overclock is performed, but then again these two ROMs have a lot of things in common with GingerBread (for example, Xperia Active Launcher works flawlessly in FroyoPro, even though it has problems with FCs on a typical Froyo ROM). I would not want to screw up the device now that I'm beginning to adore it
I would advise you against overclocking if it's unnecessary for smooth performance. Froyo should run smooth on the X8 without any overclocking, so it's better to avoid it.
I overclocked Froyobread v23b and dam it!! I play Jetpack Joyride whit almost 0% lag!
Cheers,
Mistev
I over clocked froyo pro 2.5 up to 729mhz
I crossed that and found that device rebooted during multitask.
On stock kernel
Unfortunately stock kernel didn't support undervolt
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xWhiskey said:
Hi,
Seeing how well all the modifications to my phone are doing, I would like to start experimenting with overclocking a bit.
I have FroyoPro v2.5 installed, which is based on FroyoBread, so I would guess that overclocking on FroyoBread would have more or less the same effects as on FroyoPro. I'm on stock kernel, so overclocking would have to be done via modules. Overclock and undervolt modules are already resident in the system, but are not active as long as I don't rename them to their actual extensions.
So, what experiences do you guys have with overclocking on these two systems? Is it a good thing to do, or perhaps something to better avoid?
I've read somewhere that Froyo ROMs behave badly when an overclock is performed, but then again these two ROMs have a lot of things in common with GingerBread (for example, Xperia Active Launcher works flawlessly in FroyoPro, even though it has problems with FCs on a typical Froyo ROM). I would not want to screw up the device now that I'm beginning to adore it
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nope... oc'ed froyopro does not give any problem.. i have never oc'ed froyobread though
till 806 it wont give problem.. you go on 825 and run any app then phone will restart...
729 the best for every day use and for players
I haven't found one instance where overclocking in stock kernel brought a better experience.
What's more some games will close when overclocking is active, true for 710 and 729.
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729 the best for every day use and for players
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As I said
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Fortun said:
I haven't found one instance where overclocking in stock kernel brought a better experience.
What's more some games will close when overclocking is active, true for 710 and 729.
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The game which requires lots of RAM
They will make your device unconscious
Overclocking do but not that much,
Cause when ram goes out it demand CPU powers to make your device work properly
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azeez9992 said:
The game which requires lots of RAM
They will make your device unconscious
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Please explain how the clock speed will affect the available RAM.
Also name one of these games that will actually benefit of overclocking in stock kernel.
Fortun said:
Please explain how the clock speed will affect the available RAM.
Also name one of these games that will actually benefit of overclocking in stock kernel.
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Angry birds star wars
Making my device unconscious time to time
And stock kernel:what:
I don't like
Cause it didn't under volt CPU + I didn't get l3atest CWM
Right now!
nAa jb
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Fortun said:
Please explain how the clock speed will affect the available RAM.
Also name one of these games that will actually benefit of overclocking in stock kernel.
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Everybody knows that how much ram we will get that much CPU will be free
Haven't u seen charts in pc:what:
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azeez9992 said:
Angry birds star wars
Making my device unconscious time to time
And stock kernel:what:
I don't like
Cause it didn't under volt CPU + I didn't get l3atest CWM
Right now!
nAa jb
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I'll check the game.
Now what you need to understand is that not everyone has the possibility of an unblocked bootloader (manufacturing date). Not for free anyway.
About undervolting, you can undervolt the CPU in stock kernel. What's more, most, if not all, of the custom ROMs already make use of the undervolt module created by doixanh.
Anyway, I think that a fair test would be to run Angry Birds Star Wars for twenty minutes on a freshly rebooted system after opening and closing three games. If I don't experience any lags, end of test. Any lags would make me reboot the system again, overclock, open and close the same three games and run the game.
And the reason the game is chocking in your phone is probably because you're running Jellybean. And in that case, you must overclock because the OS is by itself heavier.
By the way, what new feature does the latest CWM offer you that you cannot find in older builds?
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Everybody knows that how much ram we will get that much CPU will be free
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You're gonna have to work harder if you want me to understand you.
Fortun said:
I'll check the game.
Now what you need to understand is that not everyone has the possibility of an unblocked bootloader (manufacturing date). Not for free anyway.
About undervolting, you can undervolt the CPU in stock kernel. What's more, most, if not all, of the custom ROMs already make use of the undervolt module created by doixanh.
Anyway, I think that a fair test would be to run Angry Birds Star Wars for twenty minutes on a freshly rebooted system after opening and closing three games. If I don't experience any lags, end of test. Any lags would make me reboot the system again, overclock, open and close the same three games and run the game.
And the reason the game is chocking in your phone is probably because you're running Jellybean. And in that case, you must overclock because the OS is by itself heavier.
By the way, what new feature does the latest CWM offer you that you cannot find in older builds?
You're gonna have to work harder if you want me to understand you.
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But bro I tried all os from donut to jellybean
My experience
GB is best one
And I haven't tried under volt module by doxianh
if I helped press thanks :thumbup:
Fortun is right. I don't have the privilege of an unlocked bootloader because attempting to do so would probably brick the phone (the serial code at the battery ends with 39, and you can only unlock successfully up to number 29). Any overclocking would have to be done on stock kernel.
Anyway, I tried to overclock today, and started with the default of 691 MHz. I don't know if I did something wrong, but I experienced a significant drop in performance. The AnTuTu benchmark returned the score of about 1500 after the overclock, and it used to return a number around 2200 before the overclock. Naturally, I restored the defaults and disabled the module.
So, how normal is this reaction for FroyoPro on stock kernel? Should I drop this overclocking idea completely or is there something I missed? What is that second overclocking module about (x8oc20.ko)? I can't seem to find any info about it.
xWhiskey said:
Fortun is right. I don't have the privilege of an unlocked bootloader because attempting to do so would probably brick the phone (the serial code at the battery ends with 39, and you can only unlock successfully up to number 29). Any overclocking would have to be done on stock kernel.
Anyway, I tried to overclock today, and started with the default of 691 MHz. I don't know if I did something wrong, but I experienced a significant drop in performance. The AnTuTu benchmark returned the score of about 1500 after the overclock, and it used to return a number around 2200 before the overclock. Naturally, I restored the defaults and disabled the module.
So, how normal is this reaction for FroyoPro on stock kernel? Should I drop this overclocking idea completely or is there something I missed? What is that second overclocking module about (x8oc20.ko)? I can't seem to find any info about it.
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Vo vo vo wait a min my ends with 49 and I unlocked successfully:what:
if I helped press :thumbup:
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xWhiskey said:
Fortun is right. I don't have the privilege of an unlocked bootloader because attempting to do so would probably brick the phone (the serial code at the battery ends with 39, and you can only unlock successfully up to number 29). Any overclocking would have to be done on stock kernel.
Anyway, I tried to overclock today, and started with the default of 691 MHz. I don't know if I did something wrong, but I experienced a significant drop in performance. The AnTuTu benchmark returned the score of about 1500 after the overclock, and it used to return a number around 2200 before the overclock. Naturally, I restored the defaults and disabled the module.
So, how normal is this reaction for FroyoPro on stock kernel? Should I drop this overclocking idea completely or is there something I missed? What is that second overclocking module about (x8oc20.ko)? I can't seem to find any info about it.
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I have used froyo pro
Don't over clock
And second module
I didn't find any use.
To my froyo pro fast I taken some files from jimdem cm7tweaks and put it in that
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1 more things bro
Bootloader
Didn't matter fro which number i t ends
Look at that
10w29-safe to unlock
10w49- safe to unlock
11w29-safe to unlock
11w49 - device can be bricked, somewhere listen that can be unlocked via paid method.
12w29-can be unlocked by fast gsm it take charge.
12w49-same as 12w29.
So from 10w29 to 11w29 easy to unlock.
After that device can be hard brick
And
Didn't matter from which number it ends
matter that from which it starts.
if I helped press :thumbup:
My serial number is 11w39. At the unlock bootloader thread it said that I'm probably asking for a hard brick if I was to attempt to unlock. Sorry, I didn't know that the serial number can start with anything else other than 11. That's why I didn't pay it any attention.
xWhiskey said:
My serial number is 11w39. At the unlock bootloader thread it said that I'm probably asking for a hard brick if I was to attempt to unlock. Sorry, I didn't know that the serial number can start with anything else other than 11. That's why I didn't pay it any attention.
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Ya it can hard brick
have u listen about fast gsm try that
But u have to pay some green leafs
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azeez9992 said:
But bro I tried all os from donut to jellybean...
... And I haven't tried under volt module by doxianh
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You must have tried FroyoBread, then you already tried the undervolt module.
And about Angry Birds Star Wars, I found no difference in performance with/without overclocking.
xWhiskey said:
Anyway, I tried to overclock today, and started with the default of 691 MHz. I don't know if I did something wrong, but I experienced a significant drop in performance.
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Try overclocking with values over 700. Go slow and try first with 710.
Also don't check the "Set it on boot" checkbox just yet until you find a stable speed.
Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
Thanks
Narwhal73 said:
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
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Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
i'm pretty comfortable with 825 or 844 mhz
It's pretty good with 614 MHz lol
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Running smooth even on 614 Mhz.
Moderate usage.
King Android said:
Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
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Right now I am just using the stock one. I personally wouldn't change my battery to anything other than stock, but people have reported that 1500mAh or 1600mAh work well. I wouldn't use anything that has a higher capacity than that though. Also, if it's very inexpensive it's probably not real.
Clocking actually goes on the rom. I've seen people having OC over 1gHz & still stable with the mad kernel but I gave up clocking as I didn't see much of a difference & also underclocking started giving me FCs on some heavy apps while it was all fair in the unclocked state. And again, there's no such thing as a best frequency. You find your own values. What works well for him might mess up your phone rebooting all by itself. Stock batteries are always fine & they also keep you under warranty. Anyone ever wondered why the phone manufacturers didn't implement clocking as a part of it ? Stability is the word. I've seen here, I've seen there. East or west, stock is the best ! Try keeping as close to stock as possible, just to have that extra touch of safety & stability
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Hello all.
I was reading this thread and became interested in overclocking. In my case my device is:
Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830L (labeled as GT-S5830 by CyanogenMod)
CyanogenMod-7.2.0-cooper stable (Android version 2.3.7)
Kernel 2.6.35.7-perf-CL882825 ([email protected] #21)
I was checking in CM settings -> Performance -> CPU settings that I could adjust min and max clockspeed, but in max frequency the maximum one is the same processor's speed, 800 MHz. So my kernel doesn't support overclocking.
After a search in the forums I found there are plenty of custom kernels for this legacy device. But I'm relatively new to the kernel world, so I wanted to ask you for advise. What custom kernel could I try for my device for overclocking? Or King Android, what custom kernel are you using?
It'd the first time I do the overclocking stuff, I'd like to try it to see if some higher quality mp4 videos (which are run by MX Player only in software acceleration) can run better, as well as some games and emulators.
I'm also kind of a noob as you can see. If you want to troll/scold me...
Thank you all.
ctcx said:
Hello all.
I was reading this thread and [...]
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Hi you can try FireKernel or BlackHawk kernel. Use the search function to find them easily. Both supports Overclocking and are made for CM7. [MAKE SURE THEY SUPPORT YOUR S5830L]
At the moment I'm with Democracy ROM which is based on unofficial CM7 and I don't really feel the need of overclocking. It is all smooth with firekernel at
Min 245
Max 806
Governor smartassv2
Sent from my... oh wait, who cares?
I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
You can set it to whatever your phone can handle. Mine can't go past 844Mhz otherwise apps start force closing and such. If your phone is completely stable at 883Mhz then you're good.
As for the battery, no. It's a fake. Buy a 1500mAh like I did. Works like a charm and it brought 3. Lasts a little longer and it's really amazing. Had it for a while now. Still have one in the pack, only been using 2 when I don't get to charge my phone. Really handy.
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ctcx said:
I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
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OCing helps the phone over all. But remember, without much free ram, OC won't really change much. You need a balance of ram and CPU. Like me, I use swap and OC to 844Mhz. Even if it's a low OC, it's still better than nothing.
1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L with CM 7.2. Would OC work for me? Up to what frequency?
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM? Is your device really an Ace?
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
Any help?
ctcx said:
1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L...
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM...
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
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1.- Every Ace is diferent..some Ace's can go up to 960 Mhz while other just 844 Mhz, the thing is: try it yourself overclocking in small jumps. Swap is a small amount of memory of your SD card, that Android use it like if where RAM, but decreases SD card life...
2.- Some Kernel came Built in on Some particullary ROM's but generally cames on a CWM Flashable zip; FireKernel & BlackHawk are specially for CM7; In my opinion FireKernel is the best... And there are others like Battery Extender Kernel or NimsKernel but these Kernel are only for Stock ROM's...
I hope you find useful my info...
Thank you, Blake2893.
Then there's just 2 doubts left, if you don't mind.
There's a fair number of custom CM7.2 roms with FireKernel in the developer forum. Is there one you or someone else could say is the best in terms of stability and least number of bugs? Or is that something I should test myself in the S5830L?
The Ace S5830/S5830L has 278 Mb total RAM by default. If I understand well, you're implying I could modify SWAP partition in order to increase RAM and, probably if lucky, with this make OC work better. How can I do that? Do I also need a custom kernel/rom for that?
The best stable Roms so far are the stock GingerBread based ones... but if you aks me about CM7 there a few like Apocalypse rom(ICS styled ROM) with the FireKernel that suports swap I think...
and for Swap you only need a Kernel with Swap enabled and a SWAP Partition on your Sd card...
lets see im fine and stable with 979 mhz without reboot for 9 hours
overclock is depend on your hardware
best over clock freq.
King Android said:
Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
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The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
Cyb3rVect0r said:
The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
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Using CPU high frequencies is not recommended, your device's life will be reduced considerably
Hi guys
Did you tried Real racing 3?
the game obviously lags on the 4x . unfortunetly, no developer cares about the 4X, and i think we are gonna have big trouble with future games too. Its the same with the other games; only one core always active, from 700 (??) to 1500Mhz... a shame. One X does lag like the 4X as i've seen at youtube
AW: Real Racing 3
Yes I tried it and - wow, lags like hell!
...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...
BlackDuty said:
Yes I tried it and - wow, lags like hell!
...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...
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Yes it also lagged for me really bad, and I was kind a sad from it, cause this was the game I was looking for. But after a small search here on the forums I managed to solve it somehow and make it playeble check this link and the first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158231&page=7
You can change graphic settings, which is set to high on our phone. I changed it to low and it playes perfect Yes sure its not that pretty but its playeble. goog luck
s3 also lag
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Laggy for me too..but its still playable. I really like the game. Hope they optimize it for tegra soon
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theres a solution. It works perfectly fine for me now. If you have a rooted phone, tweak with the cpu speed and governors. The game works perfectly fine after that. However, the phone heats up and battery drains quickly.
Mahalsk said:
Yes it also lagged for me really bad, and I was kind a sad from it, cause this was the game I was looking for. But after a small search here on the forums I managed to solve it somehow and make it playeble check this link and the first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158231&page=7
You can change graphic settings, which is set to high on our phone. I changed it to low and it playes perfect Yes sure its not that pretty but its playeble. goog luck
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Doing this and changing the governor to performance makes the game much smoother.
Try LG Gearbox. Set "Active Cores" to 1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854008
It will run without any lags but with low graphic details (which can not be noticed really)
Be aware that, setting active cores other than 4 with LG Gearbox, sometimes makes your phone freeze or restart.
Mahalsk said:
Yes it also lagged for me really bad, and I was kind a sad from it, cause this was the game I was looking for. But after a small search here on the forums I managed to solve it somehow and make it playeble check this link and the first post on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158231&page=7
You can change graphic settings, which is set to high on our phone. I changed it to low and it playes perfect Yes sure its not that pretty but its playeble. goog luck
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this method worked fine for me. Originaly, the game setups our device on high or mid. I changed to low and now its not lagging and the graphics are still cool.
I didn't change any detail settings.I used No frill cpu to set the cpu to performance and the game runs fine.
I also tried "No frills cpu" with the "performance" option and saw that the game can be played without any problems.
Sent from my LG-P880
After exiting the game i set the governor to conservative.I launched the game without changing it at all , In some scenes some lag is noticable but not in game.Playing is also fine.
To be honest, I'm sick of this crap. Most Wanted lags, games designed for Tegra 3 lags (Oh yeah, I have Tegra 3 inside, as you might know), Vice City is not even accessible for normal users of 4X HD and now Real Racing 3 lags also. I will throw this piece of crap away and will buy next Samsung or Google flagship this year. I'm also upset with nVidia. I'm happy my laptop is running by AMD stuff. How you can work with bunch of noobs (question for nVidia) in mobile devices area?
And, of course, brilliant 2012 summer flagship without Jelly Bean. Why HTC One X have this? Same ****ing summer flagship. Jesus Christ.
Great...Now that your are offtopic ,go get your self a samsumg , where lag is a part of their whole UI...
Winudert said:
To be honest, I'm sick of this crap. Most Wanted lags, games designed for Tegra 3 lags (Oh yeah, I have Tegra 3 inside, as you might know), Vice City is not even accessible for normal users of 4X HD and now Real Racing 3 lags also. I will throw this piece of crap away and will buy next Samsung or Google flagship this year. I'm also upset with nVidia. I'm happy my laptop is running by AMD stuff. How you can work with bunch of noobs (question for nVidia) in mobile devices area?
And, of course, brilliant 2012 summer flagship without Jelly Bean. Why HTC One X have this? Same ****ing summer flagship. Jesus Christ.
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I can understand your disapointment, since this is a high end device.
But lets hope JB improves somethng, and remember that HOX and Nexus 7 also have issues with game performance.
Odp: Real Racing 3
Nexus and HOX are running jb so you thinking it can change something in our phone?
xtynekk said:
Nexus and HOX are running jb so you thinking it can change something in our phone?
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yes but i doesnt mean games will be better on JB. the new kernel might improve performance, bujt far away from making it a super phone.
AW: Real Racing 3
Changed Graphic Settings and it's really good! No more lags!
The game just isn't fully optimized for tegra3.
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1x1.5GHz or 4x1.4GHz
you have to be aware that the tegra 3 will give the 1.5GHz only for 1 core, the max CPU speed for 4 cores is 1.4GHz.
so if a game is optimized for 4 cores, it will run much faster on 1.4GHz.
you should keep that in mind when you lock the CPU speed at 1,5GHz
lg have always this problem great hardware fail performance
i say again, MAYBE this idea will work
I've done this on my own 4X and it's still working now, no bootloop; as long as you follows my simple guide below.
Antutu: 12930 (doesn't neccesary mean anything) - Me
Real Racing 3 personal experience: Alot better. (All 4 cores fired up) - Me
Code:
I remember in the thread back in [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837924"]August 2012[/URL] that there's this fix to move NvCPLsv.apk from system/bin to system/app
to improve battery life.
then people are saying that is some profile and power management stuff for Tegra 3.
and some people are experiencing or expecting lag or improvement.
But the thing was shifting the apk infact doesn't do anything because there wasn't any .odex
Now that in V20B HK there's this apk in its 'rightful' location and that THERE's ODEX now,
i thought perhaps its exactly why we are having lag now.
because some poorly tweaked settings in nvcplsv.apk?
Remove gaming lag in V20B, Unleash Tegra 3 on LG Optimus 4X.
1. To do so, go to system/app
2. Look for NvCPLSV.apk and its NvCPLSV.odex
3. Rename them to NvCPLSV.apk.BAK
NvCPLSV.odex.BAK
4. You are done for this folder,
now go to data/dalvik-cache
5. Clear dalvik cache
6. Turn off phone
7. Boot into stock recovery (Hold Vol - and power button until you see the recovery screen)
8. Clear cache partition and nv partition, reboot phone
9. You are done, play some game.
NOTES
Don't be surprised if you don't see all 4 cores fired up all the time. Probably its because the load didn't require anything more.
But if the game was laggy and still receives 1 core treatment, try other game (developer error maybe). If still the same, then this trick isn't working.
Side effect may include increased battery consumption
To undo return step 3 to normal state, and proceed down the steps.
Im not a dev. This trick was pure logical assumptions. For assistance in CWM or other more-than-stock issue SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE HELP :laugh:
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Please write below if it works. And remember the THANKS button
I'm trying to help, please don't flame.
Please stick to discussions pertaining to anything relevant to this topic. Complains, rumor, or hope for the pending update or opinion on reputation of LG please go somewhere else. Thanks for contributing to making a clean thread finally.
Re: [FIX] V20B Gaming Lag, Unleash Tegra 3 (MAYBE, Tested)
What exactly does this do?
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What exactly does this do?
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I remember in the thread back in August 2012 that there's this fix to move NvCPLsv.apk from system/bin to system/app
to improve battery life.
then people are saying that is some profile and power management stuff for Tegra 3.
and some people are experiencing or expecting lag or improvement.
But the thing was shifting the apk infact doesn't do anything because there wasn't any .odex
Now that in V20B HK there's this apk in its 'rightful' location and that THERE's ODEX now,
i thought perhaps its exactly why we are having lag now.
because some poorly tweaked settings in nvcplsv.apk?
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L2Deliver said:
I remember in the thread back in August 2012 that there's this fix to move NvCPLsv.apk from system/bin to system/app
to improve battery life.
then people are saying that is some profile and power management stuff for Tegra 3.
and some people are experiencing or expecting lag or improvement.
But the thing was shifting the apk infact doesn't do anything because there wasn't any .odex
Now that in V20B HK there's this apk in its 'rightful' location and that THERE's ODEX now,
i thought perhaps its exactly why we are having lag now.
because some poorly tweaked settings in nvcplsv.apk?
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You're onto something here, im getting good multi core usage with nova 3 now. Gonna test some other stuff and report back
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You're onto something here, im getting good multi core usage with nova 3 now. Gonna test some other stuff and report back
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Good to hear. Thanks
Re: [FIX] V20B Gaming Lag, Unleash Tegra 3 (MAYBE, Tested)
I'm downloading amazing Spiderman for testing and got quite some heat, if this has disabled all thermal protection we need to be careful, for now its the same as a mc4 online sesh so nothobg extreme yet
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how to wipe NV partition with CWM?
i wiped regular & dalvik cache, tried NFS, still mostly uses one core, and has lag when running into a roadblock.
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I'm downloading amazing Spiderman for testing and got quite some heat, if this has disabled all thermal protection we need to be careful, for now its the same as a mc4 online sesh so nothobg extreme yet
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As im not a dev i have no idea whether thermal protections are gone or we are taking out poorly set gaming profile
Im receiving all 4 cores on Real Racing 3 though...
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how to wipe NV partition with CWM?
i wiped regular & dalvik cache, tried NFS, still mostly uses one core, and has lag when running into a roadblock.
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I have no idea dealing with CWM LOL
Maybe NFS at certain point of time doesn't require anything more than 1 core. idk.
me too on Real Racing 3 most of the time dont get more than 1 core. but when the time comes i got all 4 at 100%
How to measure CPUs and battery hot exactly? I think we have to be very carefully and we need to test everything on V10H or V20A.
EDIT: I still believe LG can step up somehow. If Nexus 7 can run Real Racing 3 smooth, why O4X can not? CPU is even faster (don't know about GPU MHz) than in Nexus 7.
cpu's you can track with overlay programs like perfmon, as for battery, i'm not sure which, but there are programs that measure battery temperature for sure.
Re: [FIX] V20B Gaming Lag, Unleash Tegra 3 (MAYBE, Tested)
Spiderman lags as ever, I truly think gameloft screwed this game up though so I'm continuing, to test, dead trigger next
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added OT warning and updated undo method.
added comments provided. if you guys don't mind
Re: [FIX] V20B Gaming Lag, Unleash Tegra 3 (MAYBE, Tested)
Dead trigger seems a little smoother, played 2 rounds in arena and the cores seem to fire up when a new wave starts. Some micro stutters but more playable than before. Seems hit & miss really, I think tegra is still being conservative with multi core use. If theres a governer for firing up the cores we need to modify that somehow
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Shadowgun deadzone also smoother, didn't check core usage though so maybe just the server
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hmmm I have V20B which has no root but I cant rename the files on OI File Manager
Should it also work with CWM?
Edit: I did with CWM, without nv partion wipe (because I didn't find!), will try now
Re: [FIX] V20B Gaming Lag, Unleash Tegra 3 (MAYBE, Tested)
Shadowgun was just the server, it just lagged on me. Still not paying for premium from what I've found this does very little after playing games for longer I found games going back to one core, sadly I think I was placeboed. Theres a lot of tegra stuff in the /d folder, I wpuld bet that if therea a cure thats where to find it.
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Just tried this and ran Antutu and Quadrant.
Quadrant was 1400 points lower (4010 vs 5442) and Antutu was about 3000 points lower (10000 vs 13000), so this app IMO helps with performance.
after reinstating it, my scores went back to normal.
it was worth a shot though. cheers op
Fixed title of thread. Thanks for trying out guys
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Fixed title of thread. Thanks for trying out guys
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You're welcome, try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39867039 seems the problem is the cpu up threshold is too high, meaning by the time it ramps up its already overloaded and caused some lags. By lowering this I get better multi core, this time I actually feel a significant reduction of frame dipping
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You're welcome, try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39867039 seems the problem is the cpu up threshold is too high, meaning by the time it ramps up its already overloaded and caused some lags. By lowering this I get better multi core, this time I actually feel a significant reduction of frame dipping
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Mm, wondered about that. As far as I know the access time between the cores on the bus is supposed to be extremely quick. But maybe that changes when the cores are about to idle, or it conflicts with some garbage collection taking place when they go down..? So that if all cores are active, the direct addressing to the "video ram" these apps tend to use works. But when one or two cores go up and down, the response on the calls drop? And maybe drop irregularly depending on how many processes need to unwind...? Could explain why some people seem to get crazy lag, and others don't really see it.
I want to know that how can I find that my cpu & gpu processors are working well ?
you know in some games I have few problems , few delays and I'm confused.
for example for "Subway Surf" I think there must be no delay or lag !
And the other question , what's your suggestion for an excellent Task Manager ?
I have tried some and now I have GO on my phone but I'm so willing to know the better one !
I sometimes got lagg on subway surf
And it only happens on stock rom tho
Its gone for me now on cm10.1
Try benchmarking apps if u really want check
Quadrant standart
Antutu
Are 2 good ones
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I want to know that how can I find that my cpu & gpu processors are working well ?
you know in some games I have few problems , few delays and I'm confused.
for example for "Subway Surf" I think there must be no delay or lag !
And the other question , what's your suggestion for an excellent Task Manager ?
I have tried some and now I have GO on my phone but I'm so willing to know the better one !
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Everything is probably ok. Our phone isn`t very good for games (stock) and JB became for slow for some.
Look for Gaming threads but, I can tell you this:
Root
Install Tegra Overclock (not tegrak) and set GPU Clock to 380 (more stable for me) or 416 for 3D and 2D. In Core Count, tick Force selected number of CPUs Online ONLY WHEN YOU WANT TO PLAY.
Maybe play with the thermal throttle.
Look for other kernels that support higher GPU clock. (don`t really recommend).
This is me, don`t know other users opinion:
Install Autokiller Memory Optmizer and set it to Extreme. This will consume more battery (my testing) but eliminates system UI lag.
This should do it.
Oh, of course, your Antutu Benchmark should result around 13k, but dont worry if you get 12k, it varies quite a bit.
I used LG boost app from development thread every time I wanna play
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