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i only bought the lg 2x for 3 weeks, and this is sad to watch.
However, i don't see the point of the gpu being such powerful, since android does not have any thing to push the gpu at all besides benchmark. This is a good way to make myself feel better.
I would like to know is there difference between Tegra 2 cpu vs Exynos cpu at all?? besides Exynos gpu being so much more powerful than Tegra 2?
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oh thats just terrible
Now my O2x are completely useless - it will just stop functioning im sure
No wait - thats not right - whats happening, it still works ? My games still play, I can still read the news, I can still do all the things I did yesterday.
It's just a benchmark - does it really matter that much ?
Those are just numbers in my opinion.
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I might have wrong, but that benchmark is made for mobile gpus and tegra 2 is not like normal mobile gpus it's more like a desktop gpu. A eight core gpu can't be beaten by a quad core or?
Tegra is our one, probably futile, hope of future proofing our phones.
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Don't expect Tegra to lead benchmarks for a while until mobile graphics are more geared towards immediate mode rendering (Stuff more like PC graphics.). Everyone else uses Tile-based rendering. I believe NVidia did this to avoid changing the rendering (which changes the drivers even more and etc) once they reach "console-level" graphics. The Tegra 2 will excel in a few things. Don't expect it to be the best performer for now. Expect it to be a capable one.
Don't forget. SGS II is capped to 60fps and we won't know what it's truly capable of
I've seen several gaming videos and the tegra walks all over the Orion. I do agree that push for tegras are the last hope for a unified gaming platform and I think it will work. Nvidia has this backed and will see it through.
i am really sick of the fact every android phone has its own different games on each platform. same game cant be run on different android phones. this is stupid.
its one of the reasons i like Nvidia. they are trying to do something good here for once. you see all those samsung galaxy S2 hardware. but where all the games ? those same games i can play on nexus S. with good frames too. however with nvidia and tegra 2, the users are getting exclusive games that can take advantage of the hardware. thats nice for a change.
let the galaxy S2 owners have fun with there powerful phone on paper. at the end of the day. the Tegra 2 owners are the people who are getting the best looking games.
i am not saying i hate S2. because i will buy it as soon as i can. i love super amoled and the techs for the phone. but if i want a pure gaming phone. tegra 2 wins hands down. not because its the most powerful. but because there are exclusive games that take advantage of that GPU.
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ll_l_x_l_ll said:
ithe reasons i like Nvidia. they are trying to do something good here for once.
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No their not, they're taking games already under development which Android users were going to see anyway regardless of nvidia's involvement and paying the developers off to make them exclusive titles, this is a bad thing as most Android users will lose out because of it.
One of the Tegra 2 only pinball games once cracked works fine on a legend ffs!
Benchmarks are just numbers. Real life performance is what counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
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Benchmarks are just numbers. Real life performance is what counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
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What are we looking at exactly? Looks like they're both just playing a video
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What are we looking at exactly? Looks like they're both just playing a video
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this video shows at how the flash player performance is on web browsing watching a video and at this point watching an anime on both phones
so you can see that samsung galaxy with exynos and with 1.2ghz against lg2x nvidia tegra2 with 1ghz and lg optimus 2x seems for me faster for playing videos at this ..!i wanna only know if lg use stock 2.2.2 at this video against samsung galaxy s2 2.3.3 stock
lets compare those two videos and see that there are no differences between samsung s 2 and lg2x
and again dont forget...lg 2x has stock 2.2.2 rom
samsung galaxy s 2 has gingerbread 2.3.3 wich supposed to be faster..
think that when lg 2x will get official ginger 2.3.4 at this summer
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web browsing comparison
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No their not, they're taking games already under development which Android users were going to see anyway regardless of nvidia's involvement and paying the developers off to make them exclusive titles, this is a bad thing as most Android users will lose out because of it.
One of the Tegra 2 only pinball games once cracked works fine on a legend ffs!
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True, and Nvidia is causing fragmentation by using their own compression formats. Afaik Mali supports the one and only standard format, but that don't help much when Nvidia is paying off devs to use their proprietary stuff. Yeah not very techical i know, but check out the SGS2 thread for more info.
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I had heard that Nvidia hasn't released some drivers/source code for ICS and hence ICS is not possible on tegra devices !!
If that is so, then how some ICS roms like owains and hei's have came up - ?
Also i read a post nearly 4 weeks ago in dev section that Nvidia has released the source code...!!
Will someone help to clear my confusion whether all drivers have been released or not
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Because we have good devs doing good work here in xda and among the cyanogen team.
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I had heard that Nvidia hasn't released some drivers/source code for ICS and hence ICS is not possible on tegra devices !!
If that is so, then how some ICS roms like owains and hei's have came up - ?
Also i read a post nearly 4 weeks ago in dev section that Nvidia has released the source code...!!
Will someone help to clear my confusion whether all drivers have been released or not
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they are not released otherwise we did have full hardware accelaration now
but hey we got arcee the cyanogenmod maintainer of the p990 and he is really awesome!!
I don't 100% understand the matter, but does this mean something good for us?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nvid...-is-there-hope-for-driver-development_id27845
Would be very much appreciated if a developer close to the matter say something about this
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I don't 100% understand the matter, but does this mean something good for us?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nvid...-is-there-hope-for-driver-development_id27845
Would be very much appreciated if a developer close to the matter say something about this
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well they said they will be givin us ics blobs
sources will ofc be much better but we are also happy with blobs
Hmm...Thank god we have such great hard working Devz
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Also i wanted to know one more thing -
What is NEON ??
i wanyed to use screencapture software which said that NEON is not supported by processor
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Also i wanted to know one more thing -
What is NEON ??
i wanyed to use screencapture software which said that NEON is not supported by processor
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NEON is hardware base floating point emulation which is released in cortex-a8 and in some cortex-a9. for example processor used in Samsung Galaxy S. We have software based vfpv3 vectorization in o2x. HW accelated NEON could work much better in many aspects like video decoding etc.
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NEON is hardware base floating point emulation which is released in cortex-a8 and in some cortex-a9. for example processor used in Samsung Galaxy S. We have software based vfpv3 vectorization in o2x. HW accelated NEON could work much better in many aspects like video decoding etc.
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It is a shame that neon isn't supported by the Tegra 2
Tegra 2 series
The second generation Tegra SoC has a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU (lacking ARMs advanced SIMD extension, marketed as NEON), an ultra low power (ULP) GeForce GPU with 4 pixel shaders + 4 vertex shaders,[14] a single-channel memory controller with either LPDDR2 at 600 MHz or DDR2 at 667 MHz, a 32KB/32KB L1 cache per core and a shared 1MB L2 cache.[15] There is also a version of the SoC supporting 3D displays; this SoC uses a higher clocked CPU and GPU.
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ICS related discussions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347118
I have searched for this and found that the question has been asked in threads but not answered.
Is it possible to use drivers & other stuff from another Tegra 2 device that already got ICS (for example the ASUS tf101) to improve and add functionality(for example full HW acceleration) to the P990 ICS builds.
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If it is possible to use them i would say that we would already had hw acceleration working. They are closed source for every nvidia socs, not just for o2x. Just my 2 cents.
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Yup, every tegra 2 is not the same.. it is a combination of different hardware SoC. Alot of ppl already asked this question.
Guess we just have to wait till LG rolls out official ICS for o2x and nvidia source code before we can see amazing bleeding edge custom tweaks.
I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...
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I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...
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Why what where you hoping for? An Intel i7??
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Why what where you hoping for? An Intel i7??
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no, something open, with full data-sheets available, and open source drivers, i can tell you first hand how bad proprietary drivers suck.
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I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...
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i am not into this topic right now but afaik there is no real open source hardware competitor on a tegra 3 level
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no, something open, with full data-sheets available, and open source drivers, i can tell you first hand how bad proprietary drivers suck.
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I see what you mean. But when your trying to copy the Kindle Fire and go main stream global, you need something that proven to work. IMHO at £160 its a big anouph gamble all ready.
No, the tegra 3 isn't as good as it should be, but for web surfing, a little gaming and movies and music, its more than enough. Quit griping. Lol
People always find something to complain about. Lol
OP the problem is the price. For $200 you need to go with the cheapest high end processor available, and apparently that is what Nvidia did with the Kai El project to put out speedy, low price tablets. Personally dual core is quick enough for me, plus I just bought a 7" tablet so...
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Yes, the tegra 3 isnt the best chip-set, but if they went with the snapdragon s4 they would have horrible supply issues, as there isnt enough s4's as it is. Also this was made by asus who has an existing relationship with nvida. Google has used this as a reference platform so it will be heavily optimized so performance shouldn't be an issue especially considering the screen resolution, keep in mind this is the same processor that runs the transformer prime at 1080p, without all the new gpu goodies. fyi all current tablets run tegra 3's
Sure let's put in the top of the line CPU that costs $1000 and try to sell it main stream against the Kindle Fire priced at $199.
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Sure let's put in the top of the line CPU that costs $1000 and try to sell it main stream against the Kindle Fire priced at $199.
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I'm not talking high end, I'm talking open hardware, like TI OMAP.
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So does this mean a non developer Nexus device? So does that mean no custom ROMs? No CM9? No kernel tweaks?
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So does this mean a non developer Nexus device? So does that mean no custom ROMs? No CM9? No kernel tweaks?
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Nah, it just means slower Dev updates after Google has given it up.
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I'm not talking high end, I'm talking open hardware, like TI OMAP.
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AFAIK TI OMAP4 is performance-wise inferior to Tegra 3 in nearly every aspect, it's not wise to limit flagman device(it's Nexus, after all) capabilities just to please indy ROM developers. Especially concerning the fact that Nexus 7 is tightly bound to Google Play to squeeze from grateful consumers as much money as possible .
So does this mean a non developer Nexus device?
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It surely is a developer device, but it's for application developers, not ROM makers, because ROMs are not profitable for Google, but apps are.
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AFAIK TI OMAP4 is performance-wise inferior to Tegra 3 in nearly every aspect, it's not wise to limit flagman device(it's Nexus, after all) capabilities just to please indy ROM developers. Especially concerning the fact that Nexus 7 is tightly bound to Google Play to squeeze from grateful consumers as much money as possible .
It surely is a developer device, but it's for application developers, not ROM makers, because ROMs are not profitable for Google, apps are.
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Yea, that's why I'm hoping for a tablet with quad core OMAP5
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My opinion tegra 3 is the best CPU+GPU combo until the s4 quad core. I have a tegra 3 on my one x and hardly any lag whatsoever. Games look amazing, and amazing standby times. Maybe the nexus 7 will force nvidia to release drivers ect because of the demand
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tegra3 optimized games are by far the best Android games around. Tegra3 is no slouch, CPU or gpu wise. there will be no issues with custom roms. One X has a ton of custom roms/kernels. Prime has alot of roms also. I'm sure Nexus 7 will be far more popular than either of them.
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Yea, that's why I'm hoping for a tablet with quad core OMAP5
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For $199 ? And they don't arrive until Q3/Q4.
For 200$ hell no I'm not disappointed
Stop complaining about everything!!!
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I <3 Tegra. Got a Tegra phone and tegra tsblet... so gonna get the N7. I don't see what the problem is. Its very fast and good for gaming from the TegraZone
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The Tegra 3 is actually a pretty powerful chipset. Think it's tainted a bit by being the 'child' of the Tegra 2, which was not as great as we hoped it would be. Combined with some of the performance improvements in Jelly Bean I expect this device to fly.
Why Asphalt 7 and Need For Speed Most Wanted's graphics are minimal? no blur no reflection....nothing...why? I'm reading the comments on market and averibody says that the game grate graphics but on my tegra 2 phone (optimus 2x) nothing special....these games are not optimized for tegra 2 powered devices or what?
As much as I hate to say this about our phone, the Optimus 2X among the dual cores holds one of the weakest graphics processors.
Sure, when it first came out it was a beast of a phone both in terms of CPU and GPU. However, once other brands caught up in the battle, it was quite clear that Tegra 2 was the least proficient in graphics.
Funny how you'd expect a company like Nvidia that specialises in GPU units to make the best GPUs in any area, especially smartphones. However, even Tegra 3, while still powerful in its own right, is still vastly overshadowed by the GPUs on the other quad core devices.
You probably see "Tegra optimised" because of Nvidia's marketing attempts to compensate for their weak processors. It's becoming increasingly common knowledge that in smartphones, Nvidia have been useless in upholding their reputation built from computer GPUs.
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Why Asphalt 7 and Need For Speed Most Wanted's graphics are minimal? no blur no reflection....nothing...why? I'm reading the comments on market and averibody says that the game grate graphics but on my tegra 2 phone (optimus 2x) nothing special....these games are not optimized for tegra 2 powered devices or what?
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NEON instruction set missing. Simple as that.
The optimus 2x has a good gpu
new cm10 nightly Nenamark 2 = 44 fps with new gpu Driver no oc and old and the prime has 47fps is not bad
and other games like death Trigger runs on tegra 3 setings fluid
and the games are not full suport the tegra gpu well
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The optimus 2x has a good gpu
new cm10 nightly Nenamark 2 = 44 fps with new gpu Driver no oc and old and the prime has 47fps is not bad
and other games like death Trigger runs on tegra 3 setings fluid
and the games are not full suport the tegra gpu well
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yes that is weird why dead trigger and shadowgun can run at high details? and those other games not?
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NEON instruction set missing. Simple as that.
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Oh god what an utter utter facepalm...
NEON has NOTHING to do with graphics. Lack of NEON is why our phone can't play high-profile 1080p not the reason of bad graphics.
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Nootubo said:
The optimus 2x has a good gpu
new cm10 nightly Nenamark 2 = 44 fps with new gpu Driver no oc and old and the prime has 47fps is not bad
and other games like death Trigger runs on tegra 3 setings fluid
and the games are not full suport the tegra gpu well
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what new gpu drivers are you using? do you installed chainfire?
The thing is that games are often optimized for PowerVR sgx (as ported from Iphone) and adreno and mali.
Tegra2 has minimal part is whole graphic cards so why dev has to waste time for such ****ty gpu?
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Oh god what an utter utter facepalm...
NEON has NOTHING to do with graphics. Lack of NEON is why our phone can't play high-profile 1080p not the reason of bad graphics.
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Well... well... not really.
What an utter overreaction Truth is that NEON handles AV decoding encoding and linking it to a frames. So yes, in fact it has an impact.
Overreaction cause mostly it is because in settings T2/P990 is recognized as low-end device.
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Well... well... not really.
What an utter overreaction Truth is that NEON handles AV decoding encoding and linking it to a frames. So yes, in fact it has an impact.
Overreaction cause mostly it is because in settings T2/P990 is recognized as low-end device.
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Please, explain to me how something that decodes audio and video files helps in games?
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Nvidia creates one of the best lp gpu,even mali in s2 no compition for o2x gpu, but the real fact is the t2 is kicked by its own creator, to priortised t3 or next tegra version ,lg under repute its previou gen phone due to thr lame developer and nvidia support.
In return other phones+new phone roll out and here we are whinning and criticizing our gpu:thumbdown:
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is there a way to improve the graphics in asphalt7 n nfs most wanted??? has anyone tried chainfire3d??
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ullekh99 said:
is there a way to improve the graphics in asphalt7 n nfs most wanted??? has anyone tried chainfire3d??
rom-cm10
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I tried but it doesn't let me to install it.....in cmw i get an error and if i install the drivers normally the phone wont boot up....so make a backup first
seriousia said:
Nvidia creates one of the best lp gpu,even mali in s2 no compition for o2x gpu, but the real fact is the t2 is kicked by its own creator, to priortised t3 or next tegra version ,lg under repute its previou gen phone due to thr lame developer and nvidia support.
In return other phones+new phone roll out and here we are whinning and criticizing our gpu:thumbdown:
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No, GS2 GPU is faster. The Tegra GPUs are actually a pain in the ass to code for if nVidia doesn't offer support. Devs have to split graphics processing onto 8 or 12 cores. The situation is quite similar with PS3 CPU, where devs also have to split graphics processing onto 7 different cores.
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Gameloft doesn't make this game available on tegra 2 i mean their's no proper game files specifically for tegra 2 only unlike in adreno, mali and other gpu beside tegra they provide separate files for those gpu's so if you want to play great games on your o2x please first search on google for tegra 2 sd files of the game you want like bard's tale there is a specific file for our gpu and as expected its size is incredibly big 3gb
Our gpu is powerful if nvidia let the developers play with their codes i think users not only praise the developer but they praise for nvidia also for this creation in my own opinion
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Gameloft doesn't make this game available on tegra 2 i mean their's no proper game files specifically for tegra 2 only unlike in adreno, mali and other gpu beside tegra they provide separate files for those gpu's so if you want to play great games on your o2x please first search on google for tegra 2 sd files of the game you want like bard's tale there is a specific file for our gpu and as expected its size is incredibly big 3gb
Our gpu is powerful if nvidia let the developers play with their codes i think users not only praise the developer but they praise for nvidia also for this creation in my own opinion
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I agree with you, with good optimization great results can be achieved on Tegra GPUs. Its like on the PS3. When devs are money hungry they make crappy ports but when a dev invests time and money awesome games can be made (for example, Uncharted and The Last of Us)
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I"m confused by Electronic Arts.
I have an old single-core Motorola Defy + and on it that other racing game Fast5 from Gameloft runs superfluid with real-time reflections.
Now why in the hell does EA opt to choose for minimal graphics on my and other phones.
Imho it"S better to have an adjustible slider to have settings from low to max graphics on the new need for Speed on Android.
The same with Riptide by Vektor Unit.
Let people choose for themselfs dammit.
hey guys!
Did you tried out "Dead Trigger" from the Tegrazone website?
Just instal it (free!), go to options and put graphic quality to max and BE AMAZED!
why from tegrazone website.. u can download it from play store for free...
btw sorry for offtopic but does tegrazone app work for u'll...it used to work for me wen i bought my phone... but has not been working since almost a yr..says no network?? had forgotten about it but now remembered coz of mention of tegrazone website
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hey guys!
Did you tried out "Dead Trigger" from the Tegrazone website?
Just instal it (free!), go to options and put graphic quality to max and BE AMAZED!
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yes! that is why I am angry about this phone.....dead trigger and shadowgun have quality settings....and the o2x can handle it...so the developers of EA or GLU or Gameloft why they dont make games look excelent on our phone?