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Sorry if this is "Not a done thing", but really... every second damn thread is petitions, lawsuits, etc and poor me, my phone doesn't open a can of beans as fast as that guys!
XDA, to the best of my knowledge, was filled with intelligent, PRODUCTIVE people, improving their devices, and people being appreciative of what they can do now... but enough is enough now.
If you don't like the device - buy a damn nokia.
Your kidding yourselves - there will be NO CLASS ACTION. Grow up.
Mods - Can these threads be moved into a sub catagory of their own, so that people like me can access information without having to scroll through this rubbish constantly.
At the main Kaiser catagory, there can be:
Kaiser
Kaiser upgrading etc.
Kaiser accessories
Kaiser Waaa Waaa'íng
Ok, pick another name for the category if you must - But please... it really is getting beyond a joke with it all now...
And please, before I get lynched for going against what is all so important to you... You have your threads. I am not going to sit here and retaliate about who is owed what - I don't care.
This post is just a plea to the Mods to consider creating a place for all of these threads as it is apparently a very in demand topic.
If they say no - then so be it - Close this thread, and move on.
If they say yes, then hot damn, I can get back to enjoying this site again...
Ok, I've vented, I feel better. Now it's late here, so I'm off to bed to return tomorrow to see 19000 people have hijacked the thread asking the Mods to ban me...
I hope there is still some intelligence out there...
Respect our opinions, and we'll respect yours.
For example, I'll categorize this thread under Kaiser Waa Waa'ing also, since it's complaining the same sense that we are about drivers.
I SECOND this thread as I too am tired of every other thread mentioning this. Why not make a Kaiser Driver subforum.
met3ora said:
Respect our opinions, and we'll respect yours.
For example, I'll categorize this thread under Kaiser Waa Waa'ing also, since it's complaining the same sense that we are about drivers.
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And thats fine - Then the purpose of my thread would have been achieved.
Not bad... That was literally 20 seconds from the thread being created to the first complaint...
Ok.. 2 minutes apparently - but still!!
Fb401... bless you!
Whilst I don't agree with the full content of greeek's post, he does have a point.
When I first came to XDA-devs, the main Kaiser forum was full of useful tips, new software and user recommendations. Recently though, the pages are all full of threads about the drivers issue.
Whilst I follow these avidly in the hopes of a solution, they to tend to get in the way of using the forum. This isn't helped by the endless duplication when everyone with a question about the issue starts up a new damn thread, rather than adding to an existing one.
It might actually be a good idea to sub-categorise this, if only so there is a dedicated area where these issues can discussed. You could argue we should separate sub-fora for all discrete issues, but I think the driver issue is a special case due to amount of forum space and time it attracts - not to mention the way it polarises attitudes.
Proponents of the class action might argue it deflects attention and makes it harder for newbies to become aware of the issue or to contribute. However, chances are that if they are here on the site, they might already know - and if not, which update-seeking, mod-hungry XDA owner is going to ignore a forum called Kaiser Drivers (for example)? Not many!
So whilst I support the class action, and any other approach to improving our Kaisers, I also support maintaining the forum as a place where developers are still keen to come and contribute (so we can happily hoover up their efforts!)
Sorry for the long post - seems like reasoned and measured discussion has been replaced by instant flaming and jeering recently and I thought it was worth trying to reintroduce it.
Or, we could just watch the developers leave the site in despair and disgust, and rebrand the site to XDA-Grievances?
Me too
Surely the mods would agree that there is enough interest and enough disinterest in the drivers issue to warrant separating the issues. This would cut down on screen space wasted on personal attacks.
A sub-cat is a good idea.
Here's my vote for a sub-category.
I suggest we also make a subcategory called "Kaiser Waa Waa'ing about Waa Waa'ing", just to cover those who complain about people complaining.
At this moment in time Kaiser driver issue is the biggest and most worrysome issue for the most Kaiser owners on this forum. Don't believe me - look at signature/money fund threads.
So, no wonder forum is filled with people talking about it. That's what the forum is for - people talking about their PPCs. Obviously, when this all gets solved/not solved, there will be something else. There's always some topic that is popular and that will fill up the forum. So what? Don't see a problem. There's PLENTY of other threads not even touching the drivers, it's not like nothing else siezed to exist..
So stop Waa Waa'ing.
What he said. Not going to bother quoting the entire post, but seriously...I came to XDA on the Uni section and helped where I could, and took it by the bucketful. Nowadays, I get bored by page 2 of 4 of the days new posts (set to 100 per page) and just give up looking for posts I might be able to help on because I'm sick of the driver and I'm off type posts.
Seriously, chuck the posts in a sub forum of some sort, and maybe leave one sticky "My Kaiser from rip-off HTC is slow" type thread pointing people to the sub-forum. I'm sure if the driver issues are ever resolved you could post it in the "Wallaby accessories" forum and it would still be all over the world in seconds!
Sorry for agreeing with the moaner about the moaners, moaning!
OK, I'm now opening the betting pool on Godwin's. I'll take Page 5...
FWIW I don't think a Sub-cat is needed, but I wouldn't object if one was created.
James
Yeah, it gets annoying filtering through all those threads about a problem that will likely never get solved due to the Broadcom injunction against Qualcomm. (Which last I read, forbids Qualcomm from even giving support for covered chipsets to their customers - this includes the MSM7200. This may not be the case any more - they are still making Tilts after all...)
HTC is probably contractually bound not to blame Qualcomm in any public response for not providing chipset documentation, and Qualcomm is now legally bound not to provide that documentation (as it would be "support" as defined in the Broadcom patent injunction).
It's an important issue, and I'm more than willing to fight a battle I'll never win, as long as it makes an impact somehow, and I believe it has. We've gotten coverage on Engadget and other mainstream tech news sites. At very least it SHOULD let HTC know that some of their customers are smart and will fight to get what they've paid for. It's important for users to log into the Kaiser forum and see all of the complaints, as it really gets people looking into their own devices to see if they are experiences these same slow downs as other people are reporting, and if they are, they too can join the fight. I'm not sure how painful it might be for you to just skip over a thread about drivers that will make you hit the next page button a thread earlier, but it's not as ridiculous as you're making it out to be. In fact, right now on Page 1 of the Kaiser forum, I see 5 out of 20 threads about the drivers, one being your own complaint about the complaining. I also included the thread entitled, "Is your Kaiser grusomely slow" which I haven't read, but I assume isn't only about drivers.
The point is, you complaining adds yet another thread, and since you're so concerned with forum real estate, that's only hurting that. The percentage of threads about the drivers just shows anybody who looks, just how serious we are about this issue. Please respect our right to complain about the drivers by merely skipping over the threads and don't read them.
So we want 2 new sub categories? "6.1" and a "Waa WAAA"?
I have to say i almost avoid the whole kaiser thread cause the quantity of threads slagging the phone.
Whilst I agree that the driver issue is not good, i dont want to read 40 threads about it.
I vote for a seperate section too.
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since we're creating new subcategories..........how about one for ppl with 1 post who go........"HELP I INSTALLED WM 6.1 AND MY PHONE DOESNT WORK!!!!" i dunno wat the subcategory should it be called.........maybe "i'm a tool and i didnt do enough research and i b0rked my phone"
and then another subcategory for ppl happy with their phones and call it Kaiser WEE WEEE. and one more for ppl who want to complain cause there's too many subcategories
Geez, come on people... "Waa waaaa I ignore this thread cuz there are people here complaining".
If you don't like to read these threads... I got a simple solution for you.
DON'T READ THEM.
There's plenty of threads that discuss many, MANY other topics that have nothing to do with drivers whatsoever.
And christ, stop complaining you poor things.
I have to agree with the OP, however, I wouldn't have stated it in quite those words. I agree that the driver issue is an important issue, and should be talked about and discussed, but I also agree that the number of posts about it is completely poluting this category.
I have recenting come to the realization that if I wanted to read topics from happy owners to browse the Upgrading section, and if I wanted to read about people irritated and p!ssy about their device then read this one.
Yes there are a lot of "idiot" threads and a lot of WM6.1 threads, but it doesn't even begin to compare. This category isn't even worth browsing anymore.
Just my 2 cents.
So, just re-reading this thread and I noticed something. Correct me if I'm wrong but now we have:
people complaining, about people complaining, about people complaining about the driver issue!
Sheer farcical brilliance! It's like watching a Marx brothers' sketch. Or a session of Parliament. Either way, this thread has become a bit of light-hearted relief in a sometimes v serious forum. Keep 'em coming!
I love politicians.
good day.
THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!! ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i dont even want a degree after hearing how many he has and how close he resembles a retard
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THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!! ATTACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lol.......
well this guy is not getting my vote (pretty obvious, since I'm in another country) and neither xda's since this is not allowed according to the forum rules *no politics* (yes, we have rules in off-topic...believe it or not) but, he made me chuckle at least
On that note I'm closing this thread.
Good afternoon.
would it be possible to sign this petition by most member possible? so if pouriez seen the move in a location where it would be visible by the more members as possible, thank you for all of us
http://www.activism.com/it_IT/petizione/lg-nexus-4-tagliamo-il-prezzo-italiano/39734
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Good afternoon.
would it be possible to sign this petition by most member possible? so if pouriez seen the move in a location where it would be visible by the more members as possible, thank you for all of us
http://www.activism.com/it_IT/petizione/lg-nexus-4-tagliamo-il-prezzo-italiano/39734
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This will not do alot unless you target the Governments that are making it cost more. Not something you can really do anything about.
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This will not do alot unless you target the Governments that are making it cost more. Not something you can really do anything about.
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of course it is the fault of LG! proof with asus and the price of the Nexus 7 which is the same as the shop either on the playstore.
Things cost different amounts in different countries. Get over it
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Things cost different amounts in different countries. Get over it
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That is not the reason why the prices are different
If Google wish to subsidise the phone to get people to use their store, that's upto them.
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Frankly, these petitions are getting out of hand! Its supposed to be a powerful tool to gather the masses for things that really matter. Open source, more support, freedom, things that are important. LG or any other manufacturer for that matter won't reduce their prices just because someone who does not know half the things going behind pricing decisions, asks them to. Don't like the pricing, don't buy.
This needs to be stopped, or even the petitions which would have had an impact otherwise will start looking like someone throwing a tantrum.
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Frankly, these petitions are getting out of hand! Its supposed to be a powerful tool to gather the masses for things that really matter. Open source, more support, freedom, things that are important. LG or any other manufacturer for that matter won't reduce their prices just because someone who does not know half the things going behind pricing decisions, asks them to. Don't like the pricing, don't buy.
This needs to be stopped, or even the petitions which would have had an impact otherwise will start looking like someone throwing a tantrum.
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This!
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anirudh412 said:
Frankly, these petitions are getting out of hand! Its supposed to be a powerful tool to gather the masses for things that really matter. Open source, more support, freedom, things that are important. LG or any other manufacturer for that matter won't reduce their prices just because someone who does not know half the things going behind pricing decisions, asks them to. Don't like the pricing, don't buy.
This needs to be stopped, or even the petitions which would have had an impact otherwise will start looking like someone throwing a tantrum.
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Exactly this :highfive:
I sure hope a google employee isn't on this forum reading these threads. Google comes out with a phone that is much less expensive than anything else of comparable specs and yet we still have people trying to stir up the masses against them?
Should I start a petition against toyota that my car costs a different amount than in other countries? How about any manufacturer of anything I start a petition against?
Everyone stop acting as company CEO's, your beloved item you want isn't the price you want, DONT BUY IT. You can even go ahead and hate the company, that's not how vusiness is conducted. Company choose prices and then consumers decide if they buy or not. And then, guess on who's wallet it is if they didn't choose the optimal price? THE COMPANY, so shut up and swallow the pill or start your own phone making business.
There are much more important things that you guys could create a petition for.
I went ahead and reported this thread to the mods to lock / delete.
Austrian here. If anyone from Germany would be kind enough to send me a nexus 4 from Germany please pm me. We can talk about shipping price and extras via private messages. Thank you in advance
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So the nexus 7 is the same price in store and on the play store but the nexus 4 isn't?
I've signed the petition bro and wish you guys all the best in Italy.
Good luck.
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There are much more important things that you guys could create a petition for.
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Then why don't you take some action and try do something about it?
I think, and I want to believe that this reaction from your part at all, and due to a misunderstanding of the fact. know that the problem is producing not only for Italy, but for all of Europe and probably even for the usa! LG has decided to sell its nexus € 4590 / $, then it is available to 350 € / $ on google playstore. but the real concern is that some countries are not entitled to google playstore, and even if this is not the fault of LG, were it even really penalizes countries that are in the story! ! In addition to that, how can sell LG mobile google, which declare his mobile trying to sell € 350 / $ because it is mobile prices too expensive! So yes, it is true that the petition is based are made for much more serious problem than the price of a smartphone, but at the same time, this is the only way that works for a multinational company has to understand that we sum does not agree with his political advantage against all odds!
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I went ahead and reported this thread to the mods to lock / delete.
Anyone else reading this please do the same :good:
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under your username sense, I would like you to remember that we are civilized and free people to express these feelings WITHOUT SANSURE! so if you disagree with my point of view, which is your right after all, its not a reason to ask for a closing thread is NOT offensive to anyone, OR trigger hatred !
OK guys cool down. The mods already know about this thread. And while I think it is pointed in the wrong direction it is not hurting anyone. If it gets out of hand I will close it.
Now as for the "without censor" that is not the case. This thread will be censored if it gets out of hand.
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under your username sense, I would like you to remember that we are civilized and free people to express these feelings WITHOUT SANSURE! so if you disagree with my point of view, which is your right after all, its not a reason to ask for a closing thread is NOT offensive to anyone, OR trigger hatred !
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You think you should be able to post anything on a privately owned forum with no controls from the moderators?
As for the thread being locked / deleted, that's because these sort of petition threads don't do anything good for the forum and always turn into flamewars. You can see the same thing happening in the "petition for microsd card slot" thread below this one.
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I think, and I want to believe that this reaction from your part at all, and due to a misunderstanding of the fact. know that the problem is producing not only for Italy, but for all of Europe and probably even for the usa! LG has decided to sell its nexus € 4590 / $, then it is available to 350 € / $ on google playstore. but the real concern is that some countries are not entitled to google playstore, and even if this is not the fault of LG, were it even really penalizes countries that are in the story! ! In addition to that, how can sell LG mobile google, which declare his mobile trying to sell € 350 / $ because it is mobile prices too expensive! So yes, it is true that the petition is based are made for much more serious problem than the price of a smartphone, but at the same time, this is the only way that works for a multinational company has to understand that we sum does not agree with his political advantage against all odds!
under your username sense, I would like you to remember that we are civilized and free people to express these feelings WITHOUT SANSURE! so if you disagree with my point of view, which is your right after all, its not a reason to ask for a closing thread is NOT offensive to anyone, OR trigger hatred !
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We should sansur your right to speak with such grammar.
I'm really grieve but I'm a Belgian of Italian origin who does not understand English very well but uses google translation because I have a passion. please excuse my vocabulary. I do not want nothing to create a polemic, just that my intention is to collect a max of person who will want to join my cause. thank you kindly let live thread and will give him a chance.
I wan to start a petition to stop the useless petitions in this forum.
Well I stayed up all night on Monday, refreshed the Google play page pretty much all day long on Tuesday. Didn't see anything except for "Coming Soon" and "Sold Out".
This thread is for all the people that will be looking for the next batch of phones. Posting useful links related to the next batch, speculation, rumors, etc. I'm interested in how many people actually didn't get one.
Post if you didn't get one, where your located, and what phone your stuck with until you get one.
I'm in British Columbia, (West Coast) Canada. Stuck with a Motorola Milestone, that I'm about to flash CM6 to. Yes I said CM6, because CM7 barely runs on it.
This thread is a waste in my opinion. Look at me, i live in europe and there's not even a play store. I want one badly but that's life and we have no other choice but to wait.
There are 1000's maybe 10000's maybe even 100000's of users that want one but couldn't get one.
In.
Toronto, Canada. Same story as yours - stayed till 3am, was at school at the time, brought my laptop and everything, checked during lunch at 12EST... extremely pissed.
Stuck with a crappy iPhone 1, which doesn't receive texts, and doesn't receive calls half the time. I need a phone... badly :/
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Well I stayed up all night on Monday, refreshed the Google play page pretty much all day long on Tuesday. Didn't see anything except for "Coming Soon" and "Sold Out".
This thread is for people like me, that are impatiently waiting to get our Nexus 4. I'm interested in how many people actually didn't get one.
Post if you didn't get one, where your located, and what phone your stuck with until you get one.
I'm in British Columbia, (West Coast) Canada.
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I live in the UK... woke up at 5am Tuesday morning. Had auto refresher on while playing a game. Saw it go live at 8:12am or near it and tried to buy it for about 50minutes.
I'm stuck with the HTC wildfire cause I returned my SGS3 1-2months ago.
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This thread is a waste in my opinion. Look at me, i live in europe and there's not even a play store. I want one badly but that's life and we have no other choice but to wait.
There are 1000's maybe 10000's maybe even 100000's of users that want one but couldn't get one.
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OK... But what I'm interested in, is people who actively tried to buy one from the Play Store in a supported country, and could not. You are correct that many people exist in the world who had no choice.
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OK... But what I'm interested in, is people who actively tried to buy one from the Play Store in a supported country, and could not. You are correct that many people exist in the world who had no choice.
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This is similar to the poll threads that got closed. I don't think admins will keep this going.
- Doctors say my ugliness will be such an hindrance to my life that they declared me disabled for being so ugly crew
- Might as well be castrated crew
- Balding crew
- Chicks would rather smash a guy with HIV unprotected than me crew
- Suicide helpline encourage me to commit suicide crew
- Never fapped crew
- Sometimes I have the male version of the girl version of wet dreams crew
- Never smash anything less than 8/10 crew
All those crews, but not "No Nexus Crew"
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- Doctors say my ugliness will be such an hindrance to my life that they declared me disabled for being so ugly crew
- Might as well be castrated crew
- Balding crew
- Chicks would rather smash a guy with HIV unprotected than me crew
- Suicide helpline encourage me to commit suicide crew
- Never fapped crew
- Sometimes I have the male version of the girl version of wet dreams crew
- Never smash anything less than 8/10 crew
All those crews, but not "No Nexus Crew"
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I need links to all those, so I can join please.
I was on the site exactly as it changed from "coming soon" to "add to cart", but didn't manage to secure an order within the 20 minutes of it being on sale.
Extremely frustrated that now I'm not going to get the phone till next week at the very earliest.
Waste of server resources and no benefit. Consider thread dead.
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Waste of server resources and no benefit. Consider thread dead.
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hahahaha, your post definitely helped though. Thanks man.
The point of a forum is for discussion.... How is a single thread a waste. As long as people are communicating it's not a waste.
I think we need a thread for all the people that will be looking for the next batch of phones. Posting useful links related to the next batch, speculation, rumors, etc.
Had in my cart the second was available, but fkn errors would prohibit the purchase, either items disappeared from the cart, google wallet would hang and then give out an error, tried 5 times, then it went out of stock... WTF GOOGLE THIS IS A MAJOR ****UP...
PS: Didnt sleep until 3 am and woke up at 8 to make sure I get the phone only to fail because of google server issues **** THIS ****!!!
Had it in my cart so many times and every time I pressed by I got an technical issue error message, so frustrating...
Some of us (BeNeLux) will not get the phone at all! Don't complain that you could not get the first batch, there will always be second/ third and so on...
I woke up at 8 to see if they were for sale. I tried around 5 times to buy. On the 5th time, i got one, due to be shipped on the 15th. Only took me maybe 10-15 mins?
Just thought id say
Seriously? There is no need for a thread like this. Continue discussion in one of the other shipping threads.
It's official. Wait times for the next batch is 3 weeks.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/nexus-4-backordered/
Thank you for your recent purchase on Google Play. Due to overwhelming demand, your Nexus 4 is on backorder and is expected to ship within three weeks. We'll send you a notification when your order has shipped and will credit the shipping charges.
To check the status of your order at any time, visit the link below: https://wallet.google.com/manage/#transactions
If you would prefer to cancel your order, please reply to this email and our team will assist you. Or you can cancel your order using our online tool. Please follow the instructions found here:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2423477
We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you again for your order.
Thanks,
The Google Play Team
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So pretty much anyone who hasn't been able to put in a order (like myself) are not going to be able to order the device for a long time.
Thanks for nothing LG.
I guess I'm stuck phoneless for 3 weeks, or whenever the next batch will be availabe...
But I am also sort of glad that I wasn't able to get my order in so we could see if Google will add the Nexus 4 to AOSP as well as fix up some of the thermal issues.
Question for you... do you even read forums before making a new thread? The email you just quoted has been posted numerous times...
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Question for you... do you even read forums before making a new thread? The email you just quoted has been posted numerous times...
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It deserves it's own thread.
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It deserves it's own thread.
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It really doesn't. Also the E-mail doesn't say what you seem to think it does. Within 3 weeks means any time from today up untill 3 weeks. I'm not overly optomistic about the time frame myself but the thread title is still misleading at best.
your thread created privileges should be taken away...
Good thing I didnt sell my GNex yet.
Why are ppl in the states so crazy to get it even at the price of over $600 at ebay nearly double...can't they wait for the next wave just few weeks ahead..most other country don't even have play store to purchase that may sound reasonable
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I am totally at a loss with Google on this? Total and epic failure from a company that prides itself on it's meticulous attention to detail and Engineers every little thing. How the hell am I supposed t believe that the company that can crunch massive data sets, route the quickest path to ones home, serve massive amounts of AD's and multimedia can blow it in running a simple Cart driven eCommerce business and fail to anticipate all these fairly obvious headaches coming to light. It really boggles the mind?
I got the Backorder letter too, but even that was very vague and provides no level of detail that can be useful. Already there is conflicting stories of folks getting the bo letter and a shipment letter, some who made two separate orders are left wondering which order is bo'd?
If I had to think out loud, I would surmise that in the effort of cutting costs down for this product they used there F-Team of managers for this product launch ... seriously!
*A notification system that failed to notify!
*No coherent product launch time (Midnight? 9EST? 9PST?) even when we fished around for details and the rumour mill had it at 9PST the damn store opened 30minutes earlier.
*No clear communication on stock levels
*No pre-order ... my god how stupid are the folks who ran this botched job!
*Not enough inventory on hand
*No cart limits like 1 per person or 2 per person ... I could add 100 to my cart and the thing would go through
*No cart queuing/ reserving/ holding mechanism ... ticketmaster holds a ticket for 5-10 minutes the instant it lands on your cart
*Cart/ Site kept crashing
*They didn't update the site to sold-out until late at night leading to the F5 phenomena, with people wasting time without knowing whether they can make an order or not ... fully knowing anyone after the initial 10 minutes after opening the Play store would be on backorder ... might as well keep selling now it makes no more difference at this point at least alleviate those who can't purchase now to join a queue and keep selling. What will happen now is they will launch in spurts resulting in the same level of chaos ... let people join the queue now if they will be backordered in anycase.
*For those of us who got the chance to order the assumption was that they would be able to make a shipment ... no reason why the system would fluctuate from in stock to of stock during the nightmare purchase with all the obstacles it had ... WHY THE HELL DID WE GET BO'd! If there system wasn't as one to one as it seemed with all it's rigidity in how much you can add to cart and it failing during purchase because it became out of stock ... then how the hell did you guys oversell?
No sincere apology, no corrective actions are being laid out ... and that token free shipping in no way salvages this horribly broken Play Store. Heads have to roll ... seriously! I've read stories of better managers/ CEO's, project leads being fired for so little ... the folks who have done an outstanding job of tarnishing the Google brand and have been doing so seeing that this type of nonsense is not new with those familiar with the Play Store ... I am totally new to the Android verse coming from WP7.5, BB7, and Maemo ... this first impression of how Google runs this store is not what I always imagined of Google which I love and use from Email to Google+ ... I even enjoyed GWave, I put up with the Buzz mess up ... but Play is such a horrible brand tarnishing experience and Google needs to improve there retail program or get out of it and let the pro's at Amazon handle it.
This is a joke, I can't believe it Google has been running a psy-ops campaign over at the Play Store to ruin there hard fought branding of Engineered Excellence. I hate the Apple verse and the perception that they created whatever is the next best thing when rather they made a incremental improvement on the natural progression of a product life cycle ... but give credit where it is due they are a behemoth when it comes to the retail experience and the level of customer service ... night and day difference in these experiences Google, please rectify it. It makes it silly to have a building full of the brightest people who can't attempt to sell something online when you dominate on the Internet... it is a running joke this Play Store. Heads must roll!
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Agreed with the others - this letter has been discussed ad nauseam in at least 2 other very large threads, so much so that one person that started another thread has already (as of earlier this afternoon) started a Google Docs spreadsheet where they are analyzing data entered by volunteers from this forum so that graphs and statistical analyses can be made correlating purchase time to shipping confirmation as well as how this data pertains to the email notification you wrote about.
Mods, please close this thread.
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It really doesn't. Also the E-mail doesn't say what you seem to think it does. Within 3 weeks means any time from today up untill 3 weeks. I'm not overly optomistic about the time frame myself but the thread title is still misleading at best.
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Yes I had been reading about people's experiences with this backorder email for several hours already, since it was distributed around 3:00-4:00pm EST this afternoon, and then I see this thread title, and obviously I had to assume that someone had some NEW information, linking to a story at Engadget where perhaps they had confirmed that no additional units would be shipped for at least 3 weeks. But then I find, it was just a useless rehash of news and information the rest of us have been looking at and discussing for nearly 7 hours in other threads.
WTF.
joeski27 said:
Agreed with the others - this letter has been discussed ad nauseam in at least 2 other very large threads, so much so that one person that started another thread has already (as of earlier this afternoon) started a Google Docs spreadsheet where they are analyzing data entered by volunteers from this forum so that graphs and statistical analyses can be made correlating purchase time to shipping confirmation as well as how this data pertains to the email notification you wrote about.
Mods, please close this thread.
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Yes I had been reading about people's experiences with this backorder email for several hours already, since it was distributed around 3:00-4:00pm EST this afternoon, and then I see this thread title, and obviously I had to assume that someone had some NEW information, linking to a story at Engadget where perhaps they had confirmed that no additional units would be shipped for at least 3 weeks. But then I find, it was just a useless rehash of news and information the rest of us have been looking at and discussing for nearly 7 hours in other threads.
WTF.
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Yes but even backorders take "up to 3 weeks" (don't be optimistic). So people who haven't been able to order will obviously have to wait longer than that.
#firstworldproblems
x1000.
Get over it