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What happened to PPC Geeks?

I've been getting 404s for the last hour. Are they maxed out? Down?

we don't know yet.

same here it must be internal, maybe an update but they didnt announce it as far as i can tell or maybe they have a disgruntled admin LOL

They were given a DMCA letter from Sprint lawyers for posting the 3.16 leaked firmware for the Sprint Mogul. They took the site down to clear out any and all of the dozens of links to the firmware.
Of course, that is purely speculation.

muyoso said:
They were given a DMCA letter from Sprint lawyers for posting the 3.16 leaked firmware for the Sprint Mogul. They took the site down to clear out any and all of the dozens of links to the firmware.
Of course, that is purely speculation.
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Please do no make speculations like that with absolutely no knowledge of whats going on. I can assure you it is nothing like that. Don't worry folks. We will be back up soon.

according to Big D, we set a record for users online today and I am sure that caused a crash. Mike will fix it

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according to Big D, we set a record for users online today and I am sure that caused a crash. Mike will fix it
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haha, thats at least a good reason to crash. anyone talked to mike yet?

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haha, thats at least a good reason to crash. anyone talked to mike yet?
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yup we did set a record today! last time i was able to view the page the record was 667 online today! im sure that is why its down.

Running the board with unofficial leaked forum code

jackschitt28 said:
according to Big D, we set a record for users online today and I am sure that caused a crash. Mike will fix it
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I am glad it's nothing too serious. I will be in SoCal the next few days so I will not be hogging as much space on the site as I normally do.

When running phpBB these problems were constant, even when there were only 125 or so users on. vBulletin has made a big difference, but the shared hosting is what is killing it. The host kills any db requests when the max memory or processor is hit, so the site gets killed. I'm sure Mike will get it back up soon, but those of us that love that site need to support him with $$$ so he can move to a non-shared host. His hosting service even has a new deal where you can adjust the amount of RAM and proc. you want (increasing and decreasing price accordingly) while staying on shared hosting. At least this way he can alleviate the problems without breaking the bank.

its amazing how addicting this stuff is i fell like i did when demonoid went down but ive just been going over the posts i need while working offline luckily i read through like evry post on the vista cube 2.0

We contacted wideawake yesterday and he says he is working on it, it was a busy day yesterday we hit a couple of high marks and overloaded the host a bit, wideawake wants everyone to know we are trying to get thing going again and PPCGeeks is very sorry for the inconvenience, we will have things up and going soon. My thanks to XDA for letting this thread stay open so we can let people know whats going on.
Dave~

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Thanks XDA for letting us use your board to support the comminuty further.

Yeah it was absolutely crazy to see that many people on the site at once, and this was at like 2-3pm in the middle of the day when so many people were on. I was certain we were about to top 700! It was really good to see that much traffic.
And I echo the other posts thanking xda for letting us crash here for a while... it's like ppcgeeks is my flat in manhattan and xda is my summer getaway pad in the hamptons lol.
**Just to prove my point, this is my first post here but i've been a member for almost a year! lol

Excellent networking and development with these two boards Keep up the much appreciated good work!

I'm not to sure if I believe this traffic excuse. I think Mikes dog keeps chewing through the servers power cord. Ha. But I to have to give credit to XDA for its relationship with the Geeks and allowing this tread to stay open So all of us lost souls know its not the end of the world and our home has just been closed up for a few days for (we'll say) pest control. Good lookin out XDA.

NNnnnooooo!!!!
so before ppcgeeks went down i downloaded the new (leaked) rom for my mogul. i ran it and generally liked it, but decided it was to flakely because i kept getting disconected from the net. i was just planing a test drive of it anyway because i finally wanted to try out that kitchen (by doguy i think his name is) and free up some room on my mogul. now though, no ppcgeeks
i guess i'll poke around my other "summer getaway" sites like sprintusers.com and here. THANKS XDA FOR HELPING ME WITH MY GEEK FIX

I'm a little concerned now. Shouldn't take this long unless they are migrating platforms. I hope they didn't lose the database somehow.

the site works randomly.. you gotta hit refresh like a bajillion times just to pull up a page. makes me think something else is going on.

When life is too much like Dilbert

Background:
I've been assigned an "Unofficial" project at work (and I keep being told it is unofficial) to streamline one of our processes. I've been told that my day to day work is of most importance and I should only be working on the unofficial project when I don't have anything else to do.
At first I found plenty of time, but recently the day to day stuff has been taking up more and more time where I don't have much time if any to work on the unofficial project.
So in my bi-weekly meeting with my supervisor 2 weeks ago I said "I'm really concerned about running out of time before the deadline you had chosen initally" and that our manager wasn't allowing me to have overtime to work on this project.
I was told everything was fine he wasn't concerned.
Yesterday at the following meeting he said "I'm really concerned about running out of time before our deadline"
REALLY?!
So now I'm in this position where I can't have the overtime I need to meet the deadline but if I miss the deadline (since this is the first real "project" they've put me on since they've changed managers in my group) I feel that this will be a big red mark on my next review.
I've already pretty much been told if the project works out as planned I'll most likely get the promotion that they didn't give me last year. (From a "blah blah blah" to a Sr. "Blah blah blah") This promotion coincidentally was given to the other guy in our department that was hired the same day as me because though he's younger than me by about 5 or 6 years and has had less college experience than me, they've appointed him to be the executive contact for our department and he's good at schmoozing with them.
So I'm in the position now where, I can't have the overtime to get everything I need done for this "unofficial project" and unoffical projects are not funded and do not have overtime. But if I don't get it done, I may not get the promotion I was expecting.
I've already come in once on a weekend to work for 2 hours to get caught up on paperwork "for free" (and I'm not salaried) And I feel like I may just have to do it again for other stuff.
(Head explodes)

thats a lot of work, why don't you organise a meeting yourself and tell them that you don't have enough time?
Or have a private chat with the boss about perhaps getting paid for working on weekends?

Well I did talk to my supervisor in a more informal setting today and said basically I need some overtime or we're not going ot make it and I offered to come in this weekend and get caught up. He said he'd talk to our manager and he thinks it would be ok.
(*relief*)

Stonent said:
Well I did talk to my supervisor in a more informal setting today and said basically I need some overtime or we're not going ot make it and I offered to come in this weekend and get caught up. He said he'd talk to our manager and he thinks it would be ok.
(*relief*)
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There you go, i hope everything goes to plan!

Google: Next Batch in 3 Weeks

It's official. Wait times for the next batch is 3 weeks.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/nexus-4-backordered/
Thank you for your recent purchase on Google Play. Due to overwhelming demand, your Nexus 4 is on backorder and is expected to ship within three weeks. We'll send you a notification when your order has shipped and will credit the shipping charges.
To check the status of your order at any time, visit the link below: https://wallet.google.com/manage/#transactions
If you would prefer to cancel your order, please reply to this email and our team will assist you. Or you can cancel your order using our online tool. Please follow the instructions found here:
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2423477
We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you again for your order.
Thanks,
The Google Play Team
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So pretty much anyone who hasn't been able to put in a order (like myself) are not going to be able to order the device for a long time.
Thanks for nothing LG.

I guess I'm stuck phoneless for 3 weeks, or whenever the next batch will be availabe...
But I am also sort of glad that I wasn't able to get my order in so we could see if Google will add the Nexus 4 to AOSP as well as fix up some of the thermal issues.

Question for you... do you even read forums before making a new thread? The email you just quoted has been posted numerous times...
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c_86 said:
Question for you... do you even read forums before making a new thread? The email you just quoted has been posted numerous times...
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It deserves it's own thread.

wilsonlam97 said:
It deserves it's own thread.
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It really doesn't. Also the E-mail doesn't say what you seem to think it does. Within 3 weeks means any time from today up untill 3 weeks. I'm not overly optomistic about the time frame myself but the thread title is still misleading at best.

your thread created privileges should be taken away...

Good thing I didnt sell my GNex yet.

Why are ppl in the states so crazy to get it even at the price of over $600 at ebay nearly double...can't they wait for the next wave just few weeks ahead..most other country don't even have play store to purchase that may sound reasonable
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I am totally at a loss with Google on this? Total and epic failure from a company that prides itself on it's meticulous attention to detail and Engineers every little thing. How the hell am I supposed t believe that the company that can crunch massive data sets, route the quickest path to ones home, serve massive amounts of AD's and multimedia can blow it in running a simple Cart driven eCommerce business and fail to anticipate all these fairly obvious headaches coming to light. It really boggles the mind?
I got the Backorder letter too, but even that was very vague and provides no level of detail that can be useful. Already there is conflicting stories of folks getting the bo letter and a shipment letter, some who made two separate orders are left wondering which order is bo'd?
If I had to think out loud, I would surmise that in the effort of cutting costs down for this product they used there F-Team of managers for this product launch ... seriously!
*A notification system that failed to notify!
*No coherent product launch time (Midnight? 9EST? 9PST?) even when we fished around for details and the rumour mill had it at 9PST the damn store opened 30minutes earlier.
*No clear communication on stock levels
*No pre-order ... my god how stupid are the folks who ran this botched job!
*Not enough inventory on hand
*No cart limits like 1 per person or 2 per person ... I could add 100 to my cart and the thing would go through
*No cart queuing/ reserving/ holding mechanism ... ticketmaster holds a ticket for 5-10 minutes the instant it lands on your cart
*Cart/ Site kept crashing
*They didn't update the site to sold-out until late at night leading to the F5 phenomena, with people wasting time without knowing whether they can make an order or not ... fully knowing anyone after the initial 10 minutes after opening the Play store would be on backorder ... might as well keep selling now it makes no more difference at this point at least alleviate those who can't purchase now to join a queue and keep selling. What will happen now is they will launch in spurts resulting in the same level of chaos ... let people join the queue now if they will be backordered in anycase.
*For those of us who got the chance to order the assumption was that they would be able to make a shipment ... no reason why the system would fluctuate from in stock to of stock during the nightmare purchase with all the obstacles it had ... WHY THE HELL DID WE GET BO'd! If there system wasn't as one to one as it seemed with all it's rigidity in how much you can add to cart and it failing during purchase because it became out of stock ... then how the hell did you guys oversell?
No sincere apology, no corrective actions are being laid out ... and that token free shipping in no way salvages this horribly broken Play Store. Heads have to roll ... seriously! I've read stories of better managers/ CEO's, project leads being fired for so little ... the folks who have done an outstanding job of tarnishing the Google brand and have been doing so seeing that this type of nonsense is not new with those familiar with the Play Store ... I am totally new to the Android verse coming from WP7.5, BB7, and Maemo ... this first impression of how Google runs this store is not what I always imagined of Google which I love and use from Email to Google+ ... I even enjoyed GWave, I put up with the Buzz mess up ... but Play is such a horrible brand tarnishing experience and Google needs to improve there retail program or get out of it and let the pro's at Amazon handle it.
This is a joke, I can't believe it Google has been running a psy-ops campaign over at the Play Store to ruin there hard fought branding of Engineered Excellence. I hate the Apple verse and the perception that they created whatever is the next best thing when rather they made a incremental improvement on the natural progression of a product life cycle ... but give credit where it is due they are a behemoth when it comes to the retail experience and the level of customer service ... night and day difference in these experiences Google, please rectify it. It makes it silly to have a building full of the brightest people who can't attempt to sell something online when you dominate on the Internet... it is a running joke this Play Store. Heads must roll!

wilsonlam97 said:
It deserves it's own thread.
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Agreed with the others - this letter has been discussed ad nauseam in at least 2 other very large threads, so much so that one person that started another thread has already (as of earlier this afternoon) started a Google Docs spreadsheet where they are analyzing data entered by volunteers from this forum so that graphs and statistical analyses can be made correlating purchase time to shipping confirmation as well as how this data pertains to the email notification you wrote about.
Mods, please close this thread.
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It really doesn't. Also the E-mail doesn't say what you seem to think it does. Within 3 weeks means any time from today up untill 3 weeks. I'm not overly optomistic about the time frame myself but the thread title is still misleading at best.
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Yes I had been reading about people's experiences with this backorder email for several hours already, since it was distributed around 3:00-4:00pm EST this afternoon, and then I see this thread title, and obviously I had to assume that someone had some NEW information, linking to a story at Engadget where perhaps they had confirmed that no additional units would be shipped for at least 3 weeks. But then I find, it was just a useless rehash of news and information the rest of us have been looking at and discussing for nearly 7 hours in other threads.
WTF.

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Agreed with the others - this letter has been discussed ad nauseam in at least 2 other very large threads, so much so that one person that started another thread has already (as of earlier this afternoon) started a Google Docs spreadsheet where they are analyzing data entered by volunteers from this forum so that graphs and statistical analyses can be made correlating purchase time to shipping confirmation as well as how this data pertains to the email notification you wrote about.
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Yes I had been reading about people's experiences with this backorder email for several hours already, since it was distributed around 3:00-4:00pm EST this afternoon, and then I see this thread title, and obviously I had to assume that someone had some NEW information, linking to a story at Engadget where perhaps they had confirmed that no additional units would be shipped for at least 3 weeks. But then I find, it was just a useless rehash of news and information the rest of us have been looking at and discussing for nearly 7 hours in other threads.
WTF.
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Yes but even backorders take "up to 3 weeks" (don't be optimistic). So people who haven't been able to order will obviously have to wait longer than that.

#firstworldproblems
x1000.
Get over it

this about sums it up for me

"Hey, Google! What the hell??!?! Honestly, I'm not upset that that the phone is in huge demand. I'm not upset that they sold out far faster than expected or that they just didn't have enough supply. That's great for Google, great for Android, and great for wireless in the US where carriers have a stranglehold on the market. I'm freaking thrilled, in fact, that the market is embracing a new model for buying phones and sticking it to the carriers who have been totally ubstructionist to updates and have, in many ways, crippled Android over and over on phone after phone.
I'm angry because this is bloody Google - You'd think they could figure out how to handle peak loads and ecommerce at least as well as Apple. Google locates their datacenters near hydroelectric dams for God's sake so that they can access enough power to keep the world searching, to process the 72 hours of video uploaded to YouTube every minute, and to crunch enough data to automatically give me directions to my various destinations as I hop into my car for an appointment.
And yet Google couldn't switch from "Ships in 3-5 days" in the Play Store to "Sold Out" several hours after their stock had been depleted. Google didn't know the difference between "Coming soon" and "Sold Out" and actually let people continue buying phones long after they had all been gobbled up.
Google didn't have the sense to limit numbers of purchases to one or two per household and the situation was exacerbated because the miserable excuse for a storefront that they call the Play Store was such a disaster at peak load that people were buying two or three phones accidentally.
Google has enough information from the nation's aggregated searches to track influenza outbreaks faster and more accurately than the CDC and yet they didn't anticipate demand for a $300 unlocked superphone running the latest version of Android. Gee, Google, do you think a few people might want one of those? They certainly knew I did based on the search and social data I happily and consensually share with them every day through my Google account.
Google can track the movement of illegal weapons worldwide better than our own government who should really be in a position to know about the weapons trade. And yet, when I sent an email today checking on the status of my order, just moments before I received that backorder email, the automated response cheerily told me that my phone should ship today and that I would have a UPS tracking number by tomorrow.
Why is this so damned hard for a company that is probably better than any other at processing data? Why, for a company that pioneered large-scale failover and redundancy and can shift literally petaflops of processing power among its various datacenters worldwide, could it not handle demand for a phone? Have you ever gotten an email from Apple saying, "Gosh, so sorry, we didn't think many of you would actually want a freaking iPhone so we didn't bother scaling our ecommerce systems or building a kajillion phones, so even though we told you that you got one, we were wrong so now you'll have to wait a while"? No, probably not.
Google finally discovers the secret sauce for Android and turning the wireless industry on its ears only to be derailed because its online store choked. Really? Seriously? Because Google didn't have the scalability or computing muscle to handle a spike on a few of their several hundred thousand servers? Because there weren't any Google engineers smart enough to figure out a better way to do ecommerce? Despite being able to auction millions of ads in real time? Really?
Ridiculous. Just ridiculous. Google, if you're listening (and I know you are, since you already know virtually every move I make), please go buy a company that knows how to sell things on the Internet. There's one or two (or 100) that do it fairly well." Christopher Dawson ZDNet

http://www.zdnet.com/google-nexus-4-play-store-debacle-gives-buyers-the-backorder-blues-7000007482/

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http://www.zdnet.com/google-nexus-4-play-store-debacle-gives-buyers-the-backorder-blues-7000007482/
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yes - hence I quoted him.

Its good that a writer from one of the tech sites finally wrote this - it feels like the others are letting Google off the hook.
Google made an excellent choice by hiring Matias Duarte to head up UI creation they urgently need to hire logistical experts.
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It's not even the demand that was the issue. If they knew they would have (say) 100 phones that would be ready to be shipped on Nov 15th. HOW is it possible for them to take more than a 100 orders?
It's really put a bad taste in my mouth for Google. It may be true, all they care about it the data they need from all of us. Everything else (experience, consistency, etc) comes second, at best.
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Its good that a writer from one of the tech sites finally wrote this - it feels like the others are letting Google off the hook.
Google made an excellent choice by hiring Matias Duarte to head up UI creation they urgently need to hire logistical experts.
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They should ask Tim Cook for recommendations. That man is a genius when it comes to this.

Google deserves bad publicity for their launch failure!

glenroebuck said:
"Hey, Google! What the hell??!?! Honestly, I'm not upset that that the phone is in huge demand. I'm not upset that they sold out far faster than expected or that they just didn't have enough supply. That's great for Google, great for Android, and great for wireless in the US where carriers have a stranglehold on the market. I'm freaking thrilled, in fact, that the market is embracing a new model for buying phones and sticking it to the carriers who have been totally ubstructionist to updates and have, in many ways, crippled Android over and over on phone after phone.
I'm angry because this is bloody Google - You'd think they could figure out how to handle peak loads and ecommerce at least as well as Apple. Google locates their datacenters near hydroelectric dams for God's sake so that they can access enough power to keep the world searching, to process the 72 hours of video uploaded to YouTube every minute, and to crunch enough data to automatically give me directions to my various destinations as I hop into my car for an appointment.
And yet Google couldn't switch from "Ships in 3-5 days" in the Play Store to "Sold Out" several hours after their stock had been depleted. Google didn't know the difference between "Coming soon" and "Sold Out" and actually let people continue buying phones long after they had all been gobbled up.
Google didn't have the sense to limit numbers of purchases to one or two per household and the situation was exacerbated because the miserable excuse for a storefront that they call the Play Store was such a disaster at peak load that people were buying two or three phones accidentally.
Google has enough information from the nation's aggregated searches to track influenza outbreaks faster and more accurately than the CDC and yet they didn't anticipate demand for a $300 unlocked superphone running the latest version of Android. Gee, Google, do you think a few people might want one of those? They certainly knew I did based on the search and social data I happily and consensually share with them every day through my Google account.
Google can track the movement of illegal weapons worldwide better than our own government who should really be in a position to know about the weapons trade. And yet, when I sent an email today checking on the status of my order, just moments before I received that backorder email, the automated response cheerily told me that my phone should ship today and that I would have a UPS tracking number by tomorrow.
Why is this so damned hard for a company that is probably better than any other at processing data? Why, for a company that pioneered large-scale failover and redundancy and can shift literally petaflops of processing power among its various datacenters worldwide, could it not handle demand for a phone? Have you ever gotten an email from Apple saying, "Gosh, so sorry, we didn't think many of you would actually want a freaking iPhone so we didn't bother scaling our ecommerce systems or building a kajillion phones, so even though we told you that you got one, we were wrong so now you'll have to wait a while"? No, probably not.
Google finally discovers the secret sauce for Android and turning the wireless industry on its ears only to be derailed because its online store choked. Really? Seriously? Because Google didn't have the scalability or computing muscle to handle a spike on a few of their several hundred thousand servers? Because there weren't any Google engineers smart enough to figure out a better way to do ecommerce? Despite being able to auction millions of ads in real time? Really?
Ridiculous. Just ridiculous. Google, if you're listening (and I know you are, since you already know virtually every move I make), please go buy a company that knows how to sell things on the Internet. There's one or two (or 100) that do it fairly well." Christopher Dawson ZDNet
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If the person who wrote this were on XDA, I would have made a thousand accounts just to Thank him as many times. I am bloody tired of the whole Play Store debacle. Not usually the one to whine and *****, but this is beyond words!

Only those who got no phone care. /small violin playing.
I clicked buy and it worked for me. But then again, even if I had missed getting one. Its a phone. I just would have waited for the next batch. Or maybe I would piss and moan about something so small, write a 5 paragraph statement on a Non Google Site and then burned down an orphanage. /Waaaaaaaa

Is this a valid reason to cancel last minute?

5yr old's bday is planned 2weeks ahead of time, then morning of, my brother who asked to host, asked to cancel and reschedule for the following day.
Reasons given, my brother's fiancé has her mom's death anniversary, and her grandmother is in the ICU with skin cancer, and she can't get it off work.
1) If this day bothered you so much, wouldn't you have recognized the date when we planned it? Or at least just not the morning of?
2) for skin cancer to put you in the ICU, that means you've had it for a while, so it's no shock. So go be with your grandma, absolutely, but why does it matter if you're with her today but not tomorrow? Plus you could be with her from 8am-4pm, then come to the party?
3) you can't get off work and you just found out now, even though you said you were booking it off 2weeks ago?
Aside from the fact that any sane/rational person would've just opted out so as not to inconvenience everyone else, she also assumed no one had anything else scheduled for the following day. Reverse the roles, if I was going to someone else's bday party and the morning of felt horrible, would I ask that person (and everyone else) to reschedule for tomorrow? No, definitely not.
What are your thoughts?

Personally... I think his reason is valid, his girlfriend's grandma is important to him. At the same time, you've planned this for two weeks so it would be a lot of work to reschedule.
My proposal: Have your kid's birthday, if your brother can't host then oh well, but welcome him to come when he can. Even if it's a day late, even if he misses the party, I'm sure your kid will appreciate seeing their uncle.
Life happens. Don't hold it against people.

To me, it's valid. Remember that we're talking about a birthday party for a kid who is in kindergarten or first grade. Does anyone remember their own 5th birthday and the associated celebration of it? I didn't think so.
Also, unless you are one of those parents that plans an extravaganza for such things and spends thousands of dollars on it, it's not that great of an inconvenience for you or your guests to show up the next day for an hour or so and wish the kid a happy birthday and possibly give him/her a gift. (Don't start on me with the pronouns argument, please. It's the kid's birthday we are celebrating here.)
It's also a teaching moment where the kid will learn that life doesn't always go according to plan and we must make due with what life gives us. The kid will probably cry and express frustration at not having the party as planned, but it's good to get used to those things happening at a young age so that in the future your kid won't grow up to be a YouTube "entitled person" and be the focus of bad commentary about how they melt down like a snowflake when things don't go right.
Have cupcakes with your kid on their birthday and a quiet celebration with the knowledge that most of the guests will be over tomorrow for the real party.

V0latyle said:
Personally... I think his reason is valid, his girlfriend's grandma is important to him. At the same time, you've planned this for two weeks so it would be a lot of work to reschedule.
My proposal: Have your kid's birthday, if your brother can't host then oh well, but welcome him to come when he can. Even if it's a day late, even if he misses the party, I'm sure your kid will appreciate seeing their uncle.
Life happens. Don't hold it against people.
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Your proposal is a little more complex as now the decorations and supplies (that were brought over there last week) need to be picked up, moved and put back up. While it isn't a big deal, it's an unnecessary 2hr drive there and back, plus setup time. There isn't enough time in the day, so having it tomorrow is unavoidable now, crushing whatever plans people had. My mom frequently works on Sunday, I don't even want to ask her. While my wife and I did had plans for tomorrow, luckily it's wasn't with my wife's parents and we could easily move it to today.
I'm impressed with your outlook on things, don't think I could do it given I'm also undergoing life saving treatment right now. My hat's off to you, the world needs more kind people like you in it. All the best.

blaacksheep said:
To me, it's valid. Remember that we're talking about a birthday party for a kid who is in kindergarten or first grade. Does anyone remember their own 5th birthday and the associated celebration of it? I didn't think so.
Also, unless you are one of those parents that plans an extravaganza for such things and spends thousands of dollars on it, it's not that great of an inconvenience for you or your guests to show up the next day for an hour or so and wish the kid a happy birthday and possibly give him/her a gift. (Don't start on me with the pronouns argument, please. It's the kid's birthday we are celebrating here.)
It's also a teaching moment where the kid will learn that life doesn't always go according to plan and we must make due with what life gives us. The kid will probably cry and express frustration at not having the party as planned, but it's good to get used to those things happening at a young age so that in the future your kid won't grow up to be a YouTube "entitled person" and be the focus of bad commentary about how they melt down like a snowflake when things don't go right.
Have cupcakes with your kid on their birthday and a quiet celebration with the knowledge that most of the guests will be over tomorrow for the real party.
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I know the kid won't be able to tell the difference, I'm talking more of the inconvenience for everyone else. What's the point of planning something with multiple people 2weeks ahead of time, if we're just going to force everyone to do it on another day so as to accommodate one person? It sounds ridiculous to suggest, because that would mean there is never a choice then? Choice is only an illusion.
To me, the logical answer would be to have the one person that can't make it (for whatever reason), not make it. If "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one", then the decision is clear. 5 people inconvenienced, versus 1, and really, how inconvenienced can you be if you've only met the kid less than 10 times, and miss one of the many children's parties.

IMO ( worldwide accepted) common valid reasons to cancel last minute include sudden illness or injury, family emergencies, unexpected work obligations, transportation issues, and inclement weather.
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Don’ text them your excuse, CALL THEM.​

jwoegerbauer said:
IMO ( worldwide accepted) common valid reasons to cancel last minute include sudden illness or injury, family emergencies, unexpected work obligations, transportation issues, and inclement weather.
IMPORTANT:
Don’ text them your excuse, CALL THEM.​
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Lol, indeed those are all great reasons for YOU not to make it, which would've been 100% cool. It's not the first time she missed a family event. If it were me, I would've bailed on the party and went to be with my ill relative. If she just wanted to stay in bed, and maybe come down for 15min to have dessert, 100% cool with me too. But to shut down the entire party morning of, inconvenience everyone else by scrambling last minute to rearrange plans, all while presuming everyone is free on the day you choose.......no, that's selfish.