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Sennheiser vs Audio-Technica?

Currently my headphones died and now i use the apple headphones which are horrible :crying: i want to get some good over ear headphones without having to sell my kidney, i narrowed it down to these two:
1. Audio-Technica ATH-M50S EUR 159 on Amazon DE which is very expensive since it costs $115.95 on Amazon USA maybe i could import them, i don't know how much the shipping would cost tough , the downside is the cord is too long ... 10 m wow! Could i replace the cable? would it be too expensive to do so?
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2. Sennheiser HD-598 EUR 162 on amazon DE which could be nice because since im in Germany it would be the natural thing to do , they're cheaper here , they cost $239.95 in Amazon USA in comparison , i find them very beautiful but i the cable is not 3.5 it's 6.3mm damn! (at least is 3 m tall) they include an adaptor but i don't like to use adaptors Could i replace the cable? would it be too expensive to do so?
Keep in mind I will be using these headphones for listening music on my nexus 4 and my macbook pro , i dont have wav files but my mp3s are 320 or v0 so they have nice quality and maybe in the not so distant future i will start downloading apple lossless, i'm not in the music business or anything and i know these headphones are professional but id rather spend my money on these than spend spend it on that overrated glossy beat headphones .
If you can suggest another headphones for the same or less price that would be nice too

Chad_Petree said:
Currently my headphones died and now i use the apple headphones which are horrible :crying: i want to get some good over ear headphones without having to sell my kidney, i narrowed it down to these two:
1. Audio-Technica ATH-M50S EUR 159 on Amazon DE which is very expensive since it costs $115.95 on Amazon USA maybe i could import them, i don't know how much the shipping would cost tough , the downside is the cord is too long ... 10 m wow! Could i replace the cable? would it be too expensive to do so?
2. Sennheiser HD-598 EUR 162 on amazon DE which could be nice because since im in Germany it would be the natural thing to do , they're cheaper here , they cost $239.95 in Amazon USA in comparison , i find them very beautiful but i the cable is not 3.5 it's 6.3mm damn! (at least is 3 m tall) they include an adaptor but i don't like to use adaptors Could i replace the cable? would it be too expensive to do so?
Keep in mind I will be using these headphones for listening music on my nexus 4 and my macbook pro , i dont have wav files but my mp3s are 320 or v0 so they have nice quality and maybe in the not so distant future i will start downloading apple lossless, i'm not in the music business or anything and i know these headphones are professional but id rather spend my money on these than spend spend it on that overrated glossy beat headphones .
If you can suggest another headphones for the same or less price that would be nice too
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I suggest you forget both of these and go with the Grado SR60i's or Grado SR80i's. They are considered to be the best headphones for mobile devices and damn near audiophile quality. The only downside is the retro looks and that they are "open" which means if you commute to work your fellow commutes will hear everything you play.
The SR60i's go for around $150 and the SR80i's for $200.
If I have money over after buying my kids xmas presents I'm getting the SR60i's.
Note: I don't know what the "i" stands for and have seen them on sale with or without!
Here's a review for you: http://www.moon-audio.com/headphones/open-headphones/sr60i.html

Get some Beats man. I hear those are AWESOME!!!!

Both headphones which you are comparing have great sound quality. The Senn's are much much more comfortable.
Edit: I actually prefer the wireless variety for recreational use, and Senn's stand alone for comfort and value.The ones for under $60 aren't bad.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_19?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=sennheiser+wireless+headphones&sprefix=sennheiser+wireless%2Celectronics%2C225

If you're thinking economically, usually Senn's are usually _very_ easy to repair yourself.
At least the radio broadcast quality stuff used to be. Not sure anymore.
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Try Sony XBR MD700. They are amazing, they come with extra bass too. And also V-Moda crossfade LP. Cnet rates them #10 best full size headphones
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Dmwitz said:
I suggest you forget both of these and go with the Grado SR60i's or Grado SR80i's. They are considered to be the best headphones for mobile devices and damn near audiophile quality. The only downside is the retro looks and that they are "open" which means if you commute to work your fellow commutes will hear everything you play.
The SR60i's go for around $150 and the SR80i's for $200.
If I have money over after buying my kids xmas presents I'm getting the SR60i's.
Note: I don't know what the "i" stands for and have seen them on sale with or without!
Here's a review for you: http://www.moon-audio.com/headphones/open-headphones/sr60i.html
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They have great reviews, i know I might sound very superficial by saying this but i think they look horrible :/ possible a deal breaker and also that the fact that the sound can "escape" i try not to annoy people around me .
P:S: I want a dad like you! haha
TravisBean said:
Both headphones which you are comparing have great sound quality. The Senn's are much much more comfortable.
Edit: I actually prefer the wireless variety for recreational use, and Senn's stand alone for comfort and value.The ones for under $60 aren't bad.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...s&sprefix=sennheiser+wireless,electronics,225
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That's what i thought that the Audio Technica are for producers, singers... not to wear them all day on the street.
How much would it cost me to replace the cable for the seinhaser? (to put a 3. 5mm jack) If I buy a cheap cable would the quality degrade?
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Try Sony XBR MD700. They are amazing, they come with extra bass too. And also V-Moda crossfade LP. Cnet rates them #10 best full size headphones
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Maybe you meant Sony MDR-XB700? they cost 188 EUR, even more expensive than the senheisers

HeadRoom.com<<<< Been buying from these guys for around 15 years.
Have you considered the Sennheiser HD280's?
Very comfy over ear design and they will drive from a portable.
The HD280s are a bit heavy on bass, yet not muddy and very clear.
I really like mine.
I also have the Beyerdynamic DT-880's they're actually my most favorite cans.
The Beyers are an open headphone however...to me they are the best headphone available for the cost.
Just a couple of thoughts from a longtime ear-speaker user....

Thats OK said:
HeadRoom.com<<<< Been buying from these guys for around 15 years.
Have you considered the Sennheiser HD280's?
Very comfy over ear design and they will drive from a portable.
The HD280s are a bit heavy on bass, yet not muddy and very clear.
I really like mine.
I also have the Beyerdynamic DT-880's they're actually my most favorite cans.
The Beyers are an open headphone however...to me they are the best headphone available for the cost.
Just a couple of thoughts from a longtime ear-speaker user....
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Well i'm pretty much set on the senheiser 598 now , the cable can be replacable very easy you just unplug it from the headphones, the thing is will i lose quality if i use a generic 3.5 mm to 3.5 mm cable?

I have some Senny 598's at home that i used to use before buying my HD650's. They've been sat in my drawer unused for years now, which is a bit of a waste as they're great headphones!
Personally i favour Sennheiser over Audio-Technica, but the only way you'll know for sure which you prefer is to audition both of them. Otherwise you'll have to make a judgement call based on your preferences and the information you can gleen from reviews. Have a look on Head-fi for more information about both.
Grado are okay, i owned a pair of RS1's once which were beautiful, but we pay a premium in Europe for American brands. They're not the most comfortable to wear for extended periods though and i actually ended up with bleeding sores from using mine too much! The Senny's are very, very comfortable though which is in their favour.
Bottom line, you'll probably be pleased with whichever cans you decide to go with. What you should spend more time thinking about is what you are feeding them. A good Headphone Amp, DAC, or even a soundcard with a dedicated Amp will make a world of difference!

Whatever you do,OP,don't even consider the Sony MDR-7506 cans. I don't want them to go out of stock anywhere. I know they're not on your list,but they kill most everything listed sofar in this thread. Everything. So affordable,and an industry standard. Just don't buy them now. Wait for me to buy a second pair first.:highfive:

NiCk.JaY said:
And also V-Moda crossfade LP. Cnet rates them #10 best full size headphones
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You mean V-MODA Crossfade M-80 ?

You absolutely should take sound signature and your preferences into account. If you live for audio clarity and beautiful highs, headphones with powerful bass will sound horrible to you, whereas those who love to feel the bass would find them glorious.
IMO, that's the most important thing in buying good headphones, yet most people ignore it.
And, like Dirk said, try before you buy if possible.
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85gallon said:
Get some Beats man. I hear those are AWESOME!!!!
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***** plz I screwed my money on beats monster....horrible sound and uncomfortable....senn is way better !
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Chad_Petree said:
Well i'm pretty much set on the senheiser 598 now , the cable can be replacable very easy you just unplug it from the headphones, the thing is will i lose quality if i use a generic 3.5 mm to 3.5 mm cable?
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So did you get the 598s?
I guess it's true with cans that they don't come alive till they get around 100 hours on them...

85gallon said:
Get some Beats man. I hear those are AWESOME!!!!
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Damn you gallon! You beat me to it.
You Live To Die.

85gallon said:
Get some Beats man. I hear those are AWESOME!!!!
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+1

You trolls are perpetuating a gross public nuisance that is the ignorant adoration of Beats.
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You trolls are perpetuating a gross public nuisance that is the ignorant adoration of Beats.
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I genuinely enjoy wearing Beats headphones. They have great build quality and I just love the pure sound.

I'm going to mail you the cone of shame my son is wearing in my avatar.
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stock Headphones - opinions

As a device with one of the highest audio quality there is on both the loudspeakers and headphones
Does anyone who had experience with the device can tell what he thinks about the stock headphones that come with phone?
Do the headphones do justice to the phones hardware or do u suggest to buy a separate better quality ones? I usually prefer to buy a pair of better quality than the stock ones but I've read a number of reviews that said the stock headphones show a surprising good quality of sound.
but is it good enough for the phone?
Opinions?

Honestly, I've been using the M7 stock headphones for the better part of a year and they shouldn't differ as they look the same. Even though I sold the M7 shortly after I got it because I wasn't satisfied with the build quality, I actually bought these headphones seperately again because I missed them so much.
They fit perfectly into my ears and provide a good seal (use these for drumming), the flat cable is very handy and never tangles in my pocket and the sound is really up to par with e. g. my Klipsch S4i which originally were around 80 €.
They have really crisp highs, defined mids and a bass that is quite pronounced but never drowns out the rest of the sound spectrum, which the Klipsch unfortunately tend to do. All in all I am convinced these are the best headphones included with any smartphone right now! If the M8 headphones sound any different, then even better I guess. But I will unpack them only when my M7 headphones break which hasn't happen yet and I've haven't been babying these, which also speaks for their durability.

avivzamir said:
As a device with one of the highest audio quality there is on both the loudspeakers and headphones
Does anyone who had experience with the device can tell what he thinks about the stock headphones that come with phone?
Do the headphones do justice to the phones hardware or do u suggest to buy a separate better quality ones? I usually prefer to buy a pair of better quality than the stock ones but I've read a number of reviews that said the stock headphones show a surprising good quality of sound.
but is it good enough for the phone?
Opinions?
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Just bought the Gun Metal m8 like 2 hours ago , the boomsound speakers are awesome :silly: , Best sound i ever heard on a mobile speaker.
and for the ear-bud they are great too. Love the bass on them, better than my sennheiser hd202 headphone.

Weird, mine didn't come with headphones...T-Mobile USA, right? :-\

Ravok said:
Weird, mine didn't come with headphones...T-Mobile USA, right? :-\
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mine is verizon but i'm quite sure that everyone gets the headphones with the phone.

Ravok said:
Weird, mine didn't come with headphones...T-Mobile USA, right? :-\
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Neither did mine on T-Mobile. Weird or did we get cheated out by T-Mobile.

AT&T here confirmed to have them.
HTC M8

Didn't get any with T-Mobile. I thought only international ones got it
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otariq said:
Didn't get any with T-Mobile. I thought only international ones got it
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I got them with mine (AT&T), and a friend of mine on VZW had headphones with his.
I think T-Mo got cheated..

If you watch unboxing videos, you see that the HTC One M8 on AT&T, Verizon, and the international models all have included earbuds while the T-Mobile version does not.

Same as last year I think. Everybody but T-Mobile got them with the M7 if I recall. T-Mobile probably got something like a 5 cent discount per unit to leave them out.
I have never bought an earbud that cost more than $20 so I'm no audiophile but these sound pretty good to me.

For 5 cents they should have included them.
I didn't get any with my HTC Droid DNA last year when I was still with Verizon either, so I assumed they just weren't doing them at all anymore on HTC. My wife is getting me some bluetooth ones for my birthday so not that upset about it though.

The earbuds that came with the M7 were just un-branded Beats, which are honestly not that great to begin with. Got both my M7 and my M8 through T-Mobile US, no earbuds with either one. I stick with my SkullCandy TiTans, best bass response and clarity of any reasonably-priced earbuds I've ever had, and for $50.00, not too hard on the wallet, either.

Janderson88 said:
The earbuds that came with the M7 were just un-branded Beats, which are honestly not that great to begin with. Got both my M7 and my M8 through T-Mobile US, no earbuds with either one. I stick with my SkullCandy TiTans, best bass response and clarity of any reasonably-priced earbuds I've ever had, and for $50.00, not too hard on the wallet, either.
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the one M8 come with a un-branded earbuds too but some people and reviews shows there quite good. thats way im trying to decide if to buy a different earbuds or to use to stock ones.

M8 stock ones are best than any other which come with the handsets and are good enough.
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they are all the same, matter of fact im still using my old HTC diamond. its so comfortable in my ears, even after 6 hours wearing them.
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yeah no love for t-mobile.
which I don't understand since the s5/note3 do come with headphones

Wow, I'm really surprised that T-Mobile versions don't get the earbuds. That's really strange. Anyways, as far as earbuds that I have received packaged with phones, these are far and away the best. Obviously you can get better, but for a pair packaged with a phone, these are very good.

whilst the stock m8 earbuds are very good you havent heard anything until you try some bowers and wilkins c5's. got a set yesterday and whilst they are made for apple products, the center button will play and stop songs and also the microphone does work very well for calls. regarding sound quality, these bowers and wilkins are mind blowing and extremely comfortable.

I just bought the developer edition from htc online page and it comes with the phone..best earphones ..before to place my order i called them to make sure about earphones comes in the box and they told me that this phone edition not includes earphone.well done htc!!!!!!
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1TB iPod... Because why not??

Well I've been tinkering with my 5th gen IPod. Had it turned to an iMod which bypasses much of the logic board and solders a wire directly from the DAC to the line out dock. From there I run the signal into a Leckerton UHA 6S.MKII amp. My LOD is a solid Mundorf silver. Neither the amp or ipod have DC blocking capacitors so it gives it a very neutral sound.
For my IEMs I'm using Westone W40 IEMs. Quad armature IEMs.
I was using a 128gb SD card as the hard drive, but decided to upgrade a bit. So I put in a 1TB msata drive, Samsung EVO.
Now to start adding tons more FLAC files.
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That's pretty sweet man. I like.

Sound quality is good?
I use NZW-ZX1 along side with my 1st Ipod...

Thanks. Yea sound quality is amazing. Wolfson DAC, by passed logic board. It's a very pure signal. I'm definitely addicted to it. I bought the iPod new in 2007 and have used it probably an average of 3-4 days a week since. Been on 3 deployments with me.
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Apple threads are not welcome in off-to.... wait a minute...
That's pretty cool man. I'm impressed.

And in current news, well... erm... this!
http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/n...ew-lease-of-life-with-self-modded-1tb-version
I'd recommend using the share buttons on that page to increase your fame level

Archer said:
And in current news, well... erm... this!
http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/n...ew-lease-of-life-with-self-modded-1tb-version
I'd recommend using the share buttons on that page to increase your fame level
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Nice man! Thanks! That's pretty awesome. Yea I had a lot of guidance and most of the testing was done by members over at Head-Fi. I had the iMod portion done by Red Wine Audio. I don't have the workspace or soldering skill for such modding. At least not yet. The nice thing about the mod is that it improves sound quality, but doesn't affect the headphone output of the iPod itself. So if you are satisfied with the sound quality from the iPod, you could walk around with 1TB of music in just the size of an iPod classic. It's really quite crazy to see how far the modding and how far music has come in the last 10 years or so.
Alas though, everything I learned about building a Terapod, came from cmarti, dr408517, and Dminor over at headfi, who were the real pioneers. Huge kudos to Tarken who designed an amazing msata adaptor as well.
Here is a link where we discussed it for anyone how wants to upgrade their iPod.
Link: Head-Fi SSD iPod thread.

I'm no audio person by any means, but reading headfi finally got me into buying a nice set of IEMs, OEMs and DAC/amp. Dude the sound is great. I'm hard hearing, so its great to finally be able to listen to music and enjoy it again.

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ome in the last 10 years or so.
Alas though, everything I learned about building a Terapod, came from cmarti, dr408517, and Dminor over at headfi, who were the real pioneers. Huge kudos to Tarken who designed an amazing msata adaptor as well.
Oh look what you have done! It's been ages since my last post on XDA.
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boborone said:
I'm no audio person by any means, but reading headfi finally got me into buying a nice set of IEMs, OEMs and DAC/amp. Dude the sound is great. I'm hard hearing, so its great to finally be able to listen to music and enjoy it again.
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No kidding. Its true what they say..."Welcome to Headfi, sorry about your wallet"
Since starting on headfi I've bought a nice set of headphones, a nice set of IEMs and sunk more money into my iPod setup than I care to admit. Heck I could have bought an Astell&Kern AK240. But then I wouldn't have 1TB of FLAC in my pocket
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Oh look what you have done! It's been ages since my last post on XDA.
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lol, Yea tinkering with things has a way to suck you in. I think I tinker with everything. Then I learn when I break things and have to fix a whole new issue

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Well I've been tinkering with my 5th gen IPod.
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I'm imagining you explaining this to TSA agents.

that's insane man, and cool...
i just wondering, how long will it takes to play the media file inside of it

Imagine people with something like this in their pockets LOL

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I'm imagining you explaining this to TSA agents.
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Lol, I have traveled with it, never had an issue, but have always been wary of what they would think lol.
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that's insane man, and cool...
i just wondering, how long will it takes to play the media file inside of it
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Good question. Lol, no idea but a LONG time lol
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Imagine people with something like this in their pockets LOL
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It actually does fit in my pocket. However I mostly use it at home when relaxing or when I'm working. However, you can go slim it down by removing the amp. That's just for volume control and some of my higher impedance headphones. If I wanted I could plug the IEMs directly into the iPod itself. So really the 1TB iPod is no bigger than any other iPod. In fact, you can upgrade a 7th Gen iPod with a slim back plate and have a normal thin 1TB iPod.
I only use the line out, and amp for better sound quality. :good:

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It actually does fit in my pocket. However I mostly use it at home when relaxing or when I'm working. However, you can go slim it down by removing the amp. That's just for volume control and some of my higher impedance headphones. If I wanted I could plug the IEMs directly into the iPod itself. So really the 1TB iPod is no bigger than any other iPod. In fact, you can upgrade a 7th Gen iPod with a slim back plate and have a normal thin 1TB iPod.
I only use the line out, and amp for better sound quality. :good:
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Well, good! I don't have a iPod, but reading this maybe I'll buy one...

DR650SE said:
Good question. Lol, no idea but a LONG time lol
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Well, i asked that because i'm using sansa clip+ for my daily usage with ~11GB MP3
Andd~ it just feel like almost impossible to hear all the song lol...
But btw, i like that transparent case the most...

DR650SE said:
Well I've been tinkering with my 5th gen IPod. Had it turned to an iMod which bypasses much of the logic board and solders a wire directly from the DAC to the line out dock. From there I run the signal into a Leckerton UHA 6S.MKII amp. My LOD is a solid Mundorf silver. Neither the amp or ipod have DC blocking capacitors so it gives it a very neutral sound.
For my IEMs I'm using Westone W40 IEMs. Quad armature IEMs.
I was using a 128gb SD card as the hard drive, but decided to upgrade a bit. So I put in a 1TB msata drive, Samsung EVO.
Now to start adding tons more FLAC files.
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I must admit, I despise Apple with a passion but still.... that's pretty damn impressive:highfive:

i think the Ipod touch should need a 1tb flash memory just because the classics are gone but Ebay somehow has a 1tb Ipod classic custom apple need to make it official they are the original brand in there own Revoulution's peek so means by if necessary make all Ipod touch and Iphone in it's own special way and version software i mean think about it they focus on Iphone's and Imac's watch's ect so much we hardly get any recognition with the Ipod touch what is to come of today's world of storage for apple in 2017 as Airpods huge delay finally over and available in stores this coming Monday limited stock Airpods true wireless will be hard to find available in stock as far as apple store and other apple retailers this has been a huge year for apple in the world of today's wireless technology with Christmas coming up and with the Iphone 8 with wireless charging coming up in 2017 speculation's with high volume electronics production and products chants stakes can not be more higher and what better way can we start developing could we see some more movement with the Ipod touch.

Dope as fukc. How big is your library? lmao

Damn! This thing bounced back up lol. To be honest my library is only about 180GB- for now. But that's just music, no videos. But it's growing. I now import all music in Lossless formats.
I actually switched the 1TB msata drive to a 256GB SD card. This helps to conserve battery power. Plus the 1TB msata proved less reliable and susceptible to corruption, and other issues.
The gentleman that created the msata adapter subsequently came out with the iFlash Quad.
https://www.iflash.xyz/store/iflash-quad/
This adaptor allows you to switch out the iPod HDD for an adapter that can accommodate up to FOUR micro SD cards at once. The micro SD cards are run in a RAID format. The neat thing is the micro SD cards DO NOT have to be the same size. SO you can just grab what you have laying around.
He also had an adapter that can accommodate dual SD cards, which can be purchased in a 512GB capacity each for a full TB
So many options. Plus you throw in a big ass battery and your set.
If you have an iPod Classic laying around and want to make it one of a kind or breath new life into it, I highly recommend checking out the adapters on the page I linked. The prices are decent as well. So get rid of those ****ty mechanical HDDs. And go with flash media!
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Best budget BT IEM for M8?

Hello!
I am searching for affordable BT IEMs but with good sound quality and functions (vol +-,tracks,play/pause buttons)
To use with my HTC M8
I have found the Sony SBH-20 to be a good solution as I can plug my RE-272 to get BT + very good sound quality, though the RE-272 cable is too long because of the extension (you can't get stereo sound without it) and the SBH-20 is BT 3.0 and not APTX...
There are tons of Chinese branded BT earphones on Amazon like ''Soundpeats'' ''Mpow'' and ''Imarku'' that are all BT 4.0 and even sometime APTX!
But it's not like the SBH20, meaning the IEMs cant be replaced, so I have no clue which one has a good sound quality.
Please help!

I have a Samsung HS3000 thats like the sony but without the nfc pairing. Its APT-X and works pretty well. The only problem is that it is currently discontinued and I'm not sure where to find one.

lacrossev said:
I have a Samsung HS3000 thats like the sony but without the nfc pairing. Its APT-X and works pretty well. The only problem is that it is currently discontinued and I'm not sure where to find one.
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I have heard not so good things about the samsung's one, we even have them in my country (Lebanon) for 50$ but I am not convinced, they say buttons are badly implemented and volume is low.
I have found the Sony SBH50 to be a better deal than SBH20, with the Oled screen I can read music names,SMS,caller ID...and even some weather infos (though I can live without it)
Actually I am using the HTC Stereoclip in my car which is aptx and BT 2.1 and the sound quality is very good, nearly as good as cabled connection by AUX, the Sony ones are not aptx but BT 3.0, so I guess aptx + BT 2.1 = non aptx + BT 3.0 right?
I don't know if I can trust the reviews at Amazon about this earphones by ''Imarku'' but it looks like a good deal http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Wireless-Headphones-Hands-Free-Microphone/dp/B00S7ZXO9E/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_t

Could you not just do a search on amazon for that exact thing? I trust the amazon algorithm to output the highest quality item first in the list. Just check the reviews on there.

I have tried a couple BT devices (Jabra, Sony, etc.) with IEMs over the past few years....somewhat of an headphone/IEM audiophile (2 portable headphone amps, 1 desktop tube based headphone amp, and have lost count on IEMs and headphones...if that says anything).
Currently using these when I want stereo BT connection with my M8. Soundpeats Qy7 I believe these are one of the 'clones' mentioned above. I also use Viper4audio mod for sound shaping (on a Viper 3.2.1 ROM'd M8 running 4.4.4). On the Qy7's, I've added ComplyFoam T400s. Works very nicely, have no major complaints. Not as good as a couple other options I have around (all corded, though), but that's to be expected. My biggest gripe is that they are prone to falling out, even with the ComplyFoams inserted correctly, and using the inner ear loops. Have to re-adjust every 10-15 minutes....just while sitting. Not a major deal though.
The best sounding setup I've ever used was actually the Jabra Street2 connected to a pair of Ultimate Ears Triple.Fi 10s...but the Jabra Street2 is plagued with intermittent skips and annoyances (and it was corrected with a firmware update, but mine won't update).
I'd like to try the Jaybird Bluebuds, but those aren't considered 'budget' by any standard, and happy enough with the options I have, atm.
FWIW. HTH.

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I have tried a couple BT devices (Jabra, Sony, etc.) with IEMs over the past few years....somewhat of an headphone/IEM audiophile (2 portable headphone amps, 1 desktop tube based headphone amp, and have lost count on IEMs and headphones...if that says anything).
Currently using these when I want stereo BT connection with my M8. Soundpeats Qy7 I believe these are one of the 'clones' mentioned above. I also use Viper4audio mod for sound shaping (on a Viper 3.2.1 ROM'd M8 running 4.4.4). On the Qy7's, I've added ComplyFoam T400s. Works very nicely, have no major complaints. Not as good as a couple other options I have around (all corded, though), but that's to be expected. My biggest gripe is that they are prone to falling out, even with the ComplyFoams inserted correctly, and using the inner ear loops. Have to re-adjust every 10-15 minutes....just while sitting. Not a major deal though.
The best sounding setup I've ever used was actually the Jabra Street2 connected to a pair of Ultimate Ears Triple.Fi 10s...but the Jabra Street2 is plagued with intermittent skips and annoyances (and it was corrected with a firmware update, but mine won't update).
I'd like to try the Jaybird Bluebuds, but those aren't considered 'budget' by any standard, and happy enough with the options I have, atm.
FWIW. HTH.
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Thanks for your report.
I have read that the QY5 and QY7 were having these problems of falling which are a big deal for me as I will use them while jogging.
HIFIMAN can be perfect with SBH50 if the TRRS 3.5mm plug was compatible with it, but I doubt

vegetaleb said:
Thanks for your report.
I have read that the QY5 and QY7 were having these problems of falling which are a big deal for me as I will use them while jogging.
HIFIMAN can be perfect with SBH50 if the TRRS 3.5mm plug was compatible with it, but I doubt
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One other little tidbit.....IEMs, are nowhere near a 'one size fits all' prospect, even when the manufacturer gives you (like the QY7) 3 different sized ear loops (to hold them in your ear) and also 3 different sized ear tips (the part that inserts into the ear canal).
In my experience......owning 20-30 different sets of IEMs over the past 10 years...some manufacturers work better for me, and some just never will. Ultimate Ears (before purchase by Logitech), Sennheiser, Plantronics....almost always fit me well. Other brands (Shure, Panasonic, Sony, Onkyo, etc.), not so much.
What I'm getting at is the QY7 may not exhibit that issue at all for you, like it does for the reviews from others (including me). If you order from a place that has a liberal return policy....then you could try and see. Amazon is currently showing $36 for me....not very expensive, even by corded standard pricing....might be worth a shot.
I always take reviews with a slight grain of salt....and look at them a bit differently (than most I think). In respect to the QY7, there are 1K+ reviews, with ~75% of them being reviewed at 4 or 5 stars. Not bad. When reviewing.....participation of positive reviews don't account for nearly as much as sellers/manufactuers would want, (it's in the 10-20% range). The bad/negative reviews have a much higher participation....then, all in all, taking that into consideration....there are many more that are happy with the QY7 vs. those that aren't, but it's hard to see that. Just MHO. FWIW. YMMV. :silly:
If you really want to get into all things IEM and headphone.....Google 'Head-Fi Forums'. Then.....sorry about your wallet!

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One other little tidbit.....IEMs, are nowhere near a 'one size fits all' prospect, even when the manufacturer gives you (like the QY7) 3 different sized ear loops (to hold them in your ear) and also 3 different sized ear tips (the part that inserts into the ear canal).
In my experience......owning 20-30 different sets of IEMs over the past 10 years...some manufacturers work better for me, and some just never will. Ultimate Ears (before purchase by Logitech), Sennheiser, Plantronics....almost always fit me well. Other brands (Shure, Panasonic, Sony, Onkyo, etc.), not so much.
What I'm getting at is the QY7 may not exhibit that issue at all for you, like it does for the reviews from others (including me). If you order from a place that has a liberal return policy....then you could try and see. Amazon is currently showing $36 for me....not very expensive, even by corded standard pricing....might be worth a shot.
I always take reviews with a slight grain of salt....and look at them a bit differently (than most I think). In respect to the QY7, there are 1K+ reviews, with ~75% of them being reviewed at 4 or 5 stars. Not bad. When reviewing.....participation of positive reviews don't account for nearly as much as sellers/manufactuers would want, (it's in the 10-20% range). The bad/negative reviews have a much higher participation....then, all in all, taking that into consideration....there are many more that are happy with the QY7 vs. those that aren't, but it's hard to see that. Just MHO. FWIW. YMMV. :silly:
If you really want to get into all things IEM and headphone.....Google 'Head-Fi Forums'. Then.....sorry about your wallet!
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Lol I know Head-Fi, I bought the Hifiman IEMs thanks to their reviews.
And yeah they are a little snobbish with people paying 600$ for IEM
Reviews at Amazon are not always a good results, specially for IEM.
I bought 4 years ago a pair of these Sony http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDREX10LP-BLU-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B004UDZ8O6 which are still like you see rated 4 stars.
I have never heard a such awful sound in all IEM till now, they were way too in the lows, nothing in the mids not highs, no details!
Why is it so well reviewed? well I figured it's because it costs only 12$ and people who like the sound quality were fans of ''only bass'' music like rap and rnb, which are the only type of music I don't listen too btw.
That's why I am afraid the QY7 models are so well reviewed for the same reasons.
I have found one review that was extremely positive for the Soundpeats QY7 in a blog and another one that smashed it in Head-Fi as a ridiculous sound quality with emphasis on lows only (like the Sony I hated)

I'm sure you know this....but just putting it out there. You can EQ with most any music player (I use PowerAmp)....and with Viper Audio's Viper4Android FX you can even EQ Spotify, Slacker, MOG, Pandora, iHeartRadio.....almost anything. It even has separate options for EQ'ing the different output methods, Bluetooth connected versus wired, for example.
Not trying to twist your arm....but $36 to try them....maybe $6 to return them if they don't work out (Amazon return policy is pretty good, just have to pay return shipping).
Sound wise, they aren't bad IMHO. You're jogging with them. Are you really going to miss the upper/lower 10-15% of the sound spectrum while jogging (as opposed to the pounding of your feet and breathing, since you are wearing IEMs)? And, even if so, you could EQ that back in.... For everything else not jogging, you've got the HiFiMan's. :good:
One other idea (and again, you probably know this if you've spent any length of time on Head-Fi)....reviews of IEMs that include the words 'clarity' and 'detail' are IEMs that are biased towards the high end vs. the low end comments of 'boom' 'bass' 'heavy' 'muddy'.
All good :highfive: Everyone searches for something different in IEMs/headphones, just like the many tastes of music itself.

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I'm sure you know this....but just putting it out there. You can EQ with most any music player (I use PowerAmp)....and with Viper Audio's Viper4Android FX you can even EQ Spotify, Slacker, MOG, Pandora, iHeartRadio.....almost anything. It even has separate options for EQ'ing the different output methods, Bluetooth connected versus wired, for example.
Not trying to twist your arm....but $36 to try them....maybe $6 to return them if they don't work out (Amazon return policy is pretty good, just have to pay return shipping).
Sound wise, they aren't bad IMHO. You're jogging with them. Are you really going to miss the upper/lower 10-15% of the sound spectrum while jogging (as opposed to the pounding of your feet and breathing, since you are wearing IEMs)? And, even if so, you could EQ that back in.... For everything else not jogging, you've got the HiFiMan's. :good:
One other idea (and again, you probably know this if you've spent any length of time on Head-Fi)....reviews of IEMs that include the words 'clarity' and 'detail' are IEMs that are biased towards the high end vs. the low end comments of 'boom' 'bass' 'heavy' 'muddy'.
All good :highfive: Everyone searches for something different in IEMs/headphones, just like the many tastes of music itself.
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Don't ask me why but I feel these Imarku http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S7ZXO9E?ref_=pe_623860_70668520 sound better than QY7-QY5, the seller told me it's totally different from the QY5 and QY7 clones you see in Amazon. BT 4.0 but no aptx (which is not a big deal as BT 3.0 and + are already good enough).
The thing is that they won't deliver to my sis in NYC before the 10th Feb with standard delivery, I will have to pay the fast delivery 13$ to be sure she get it before she meet my friend.
So the that's why I can't try and return like you said, I must be 100% sure it's a good deal for me before buying.
I have a friend who is traveling to NYC next week for 3-4 days, I live in Lebanon and if I want to do a delivery from Amazon to here it will cost me 80$ more lol.
Imarku looks like a good deal if I trust the 24 reviews but I am afraid of the diameter of the earphone itself right after the rubber part as it looks too large and could make it falls on the first jogging vibration,even do some irritation to my ear, the Sony SBH50 is a sure thing as I can plug any IEM if I don't like the ones that come with it. That's why I can't decide :crying:
Oh and btw IEM BT here are the most expensive models like Bose and Beats, even Sony doesn't bring the ''cheap'' models SBH20,50 and 52, they have only 1 model at 150$
You can find some headphones (over the ear) BT like Energysistem for 80$ but I don't see myself jogging with such big things.

Missed the fact about being in Lebanon.
I also have the SBH-50. What did you need to confirm with it? Just that a TRRS plugged IEM would work with it? Don't know that I've tried that. But, I could and let you know.
The way it's 'supposed' to work is that when a TRRS plug is in a regular stereo (3 part) receptor....the result is the same as if both parts were stereo (3 part) connection.

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Missed the fact about being in Lebanon.
I also have the SBH-50. What did you need to confirm with it? Just that a TRRS plugged IEM would work with it? Don't know that I've tried that. But, I could and let you know.
The way it's 'supposed' to work is that when a TRRS plug is in a regular stereo (3 part) receptor....the result is the same as if both parts were stereo (3 part) connection.
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The weird thing is that when I connect directly the TRRS plug into the M8 only one earphone will work, but if I plug it to the HTC BT Stereoclip with the help of a female 3.5mm to female 3.5mm, the sound is stereo like if the TRRS to TRS cable was used
Hoping the Sony SBH50 will act the same it will be awesome because the Hifiman RE-272 and 262 cable lenght with TRRS plug is short and perfect for the Sony SBH50, it's the extension cable (which act as TRRS to TRS adapter too) that add an extra 80cm!

Charging up the HBH50 and will do some comparisons with it connected to a couple different stereo IEMs, and an Apple iPhone 5s headset (the only version of IEM/buds I have with TRRS plug).
Honestly the HBH50 will be the best option, IMHO, as you can use it with any headphone.
Of course, the reason I don't always use the HBH50 is that it's a bit 'bright' with it's presentation of sound. The Jabra Street2 I have is a bit more my liking, which, while I'm no basshead....I do like accurate, tight, controlled, emphasized rhythm (percussion and bass guitar) section. But, the top end still has to be there and quite accurate as well.
Will report back, may be tomorrow....still gotta work! :silly:

Here's why the HTC M8 and M7 before it can't make a stereo sound with the TRRS of Hifiman.
It's the RE-0 one but I am sure it's the same as RE-272 and 262
So as you can see the third ring which is used by earphones+mic models as mic is used here for left channel, I wonder if we can do something app based...
I couldn't find a female TRRS to male TRS small cable yet instead of using the 80cm one.
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Highly doubt a software solution will fix this type of a hardware (the balanced iem plug wiring) issue.
FWIW, the HBH50 works great on the HTC M8 with an iPhone 5s Apple iem/bud earphone (the ones included in purchase). which has the 4 option plug, with the back connection being the mic. Just note, the mic of the headset is NOT connected. This setup uses the mic of the HBH50, but puts stereo out to the Apple iem. All keypress functions of the HBH50 work fine. Auto-reconnect upon turning the HBH50 on/off works nicely too.
And...the HBH50 does come with a iem/bud/headset on it's own that has a short cord.
HTH.

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Highly doubt a software solution will fix this type of a hardware (the balanced iem plug wiring) issue.
FWIW, the HBH50 works great on the HTC M8 with an iPhone 5s Apple iem/bud earphone (the ones included in purchase). which has the 4 option plug, with the back connection being the mic. Just note, the mic of the headset is NOT connected. This setup uses the mic of the HBH50, but puts stereo out to the Apple iem. All keypress functions of the HBH50 work fine. Auto-reconnect upon turning the HBH50 on/off works nicely too.
And...the HBH50 does come with a iem/bud/headset on it's own that has a short cord.
HTH.
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Thanks I ordered a white one from B&H (it's sexier and cheaper than the black one), you have to install the SBH50 app and the Smart connect app to use the full features right(SMS view,song names,ID callers...)?
Can you update its FW from the M8 too or you need an xperia phone?

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Thanks I ordered a white one from B&H (it's sexier and cheaper than the black one), you have to install the SBH50 app and the Smart connect app to use the full features right(SMS view,song names,ID callers...)?
Can you update its FW from the M8 too or you need an xperia phone?
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This part I'm not really sure. I use a Pebble Steel watch along with a couple custom apps for SMS viewing/alerting, caller ID and call dialing/muting/handling features.
Both Slacker and PowerAmp (music apps) worked with the HBH50 without any additional software to show the song names and artist. Same for all the ff/rw/pause/play features. Only had to pair the HBH50 and it all 'just worked'.
For updating firmware...honestly never looked into it for the HBH, but if it's like the Jabra Street2, there's probably a separate app using Windows to do it with a USB cable.
HTH.

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This part I'm not really sure. I use a Pebble Steel watch along with a couple custom apps for SMS viewing/alerting, caller ID and call dialing/muting/handling features.
Both Slacker and PowerAmp (music apps) worked with the HBH50 without any additional software to show the song names and artist. Same for all the ff/rw/pause/play features. Only had to pair the HBH50 and it all 'just worked'.
For updating firmware...honestly never looked into it for the HBH, but if it's like the Jabra Street2, there's probably a separate app using Windows to do it with a USB cable.
HTH.
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I think it's trhough the Sony SBH50 app in the Google playstore,once you install it, it will say there is a new FW.
Hopefully I will get mine in the coming days, it's still with my friend in NY and he's coming back this week

Wow these SBH50 are really good!
BT 3.0 is superior to 2.1 + APTX, sound is clear, soundstage is wide and no muffling sound typical of BT compression.
The given earphones are way too bassy, I had to lower the bass in Viper4android well under the average.
The HIFIMAN RE-272 have a superb sound with the SBH50 but as expected the 3 strips stereo plug didn't work, I have to use the extension cable making it too long for a BT device unless I clip it on my Tshirt sleeve instead of the collar.
I will try to find a shorter extension-adapter cable.
All the functions of the SBH50 are supported with the M8, MP3 tag,caller ID...
Though the sound volume is not very loud, tried it with a 3.5mm to 3.5mm in my car instead of the HTC Stereoclip and it was perhaps 40% more quiet, but with the earphones the volume is good after adding +6db thanks again to V4A, it could have take an extra 10% more.

In-Ear Headphones with Remote/Mic

I've been on the hunt for solid in-ear headphones with mic and remote that are compatible with the 5T. My budget is up to approximately $150 US. I was led to believe that you could purchase Shure 215 and buy an aftermarket cable that will make them compatible. Can anyone make a suggestion based on these parameters?
Thanks!

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ShermCraig said:
I've been on the hunt for solid in-ear headphones with mic and remote that are compatible with the 5T. My budget is up to approximately $150 US. I was led to believe that you could purchase Shure 215 and buy an aftermarket cable that will make them compatible. Can anyone make a suggestion based on these parameters?
Thanks!
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Now this product is on Amazon shop with Amazon FBA fullfillment service.
Amazon UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B076Z5RW95
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You can get any one of the following:
RHA S500i - Small but efficient earbuds, Clean and neutral sound. Mic and button compatibility with 3 years of warranty.
Shure SE215 - Awesome sounding earphones but your will need cable with mic and buttons for your needs.
1More Piston Fit - Clean and neutral sound. Mic and button compatibility.
1More Triple Driver - Hi-Res Certified triple driver system. Flat frequency response with 3 button mic fully supported with 5T.
Fiio F9 SE - Hi-Res Certified Triple Driver system by Fiio. Clean and clear response and ear-hook type design for secure and comfortable sound.
HiFiMan RE400 - Small earbuds delivering clean sound with a bit of shimmer in the highs.
Meze 12 Classics - Flat Response with great comfort and due to wooden casing these deliver punchy bass. A bit on Warmer side due to Wood used.
I think these options should be enough, I have all of these and I like all of them. Each has a characteristic of their own which makes them different from another.
Hope this helps.

Sure does help - thanks! :good::highfive: One question about the Shure's. Are you aware of a cable that is compatible with the OP5T?
vishuxperia said:
You can get any one of the following:
RHA S500i - Small but efficient earbuds, Clean and neutral sound. Mic and button compatibility with 3 years of warranty.
Shure SE215 - Awesome sounding earphones but your will need cable with mic and buttons for your needs.
1More Piston Fit - Clean and neutral sound. Mic and button compatibility.
1More Triple Driver - Hi-Res Certified triple driver system. Flat frequency response with 3 button mic fully supported with 5T.
Fiio F9 SE - Hi-Res Certified Triple Driver system by Fiio. Clean and clear response and ear-hook type design for secure and comfortable sound.
HiFiMan RE400 - Small earbuds delivering clean sound with a bit of shimmer in the highs.
Meze 12 Classics - Flat Response with great comfort and due to wooden casing these deliver punchy bass. A bit on Warmer side due to Wood used.
I think these options should be enough, I have all of these and I like all of them. Each has a characteristic of their own which makes them different from another.
Hope this helps.
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Rha MA750i
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Website says NOT COMPATIBLE with Android. What phone are you using them with?

Are these earphone as good as the apple ones? I find that usually they are uncomfortable.

ShermCraig said:
Sure does help - thanks! :good::highfive: One question about the Shure's. Are you aware of a cable that is compatible with the OP5T?
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It is marketed as compatible with android on Amazon.com. I haven't used one. I have a one without buttons and mic.
LINK:- https://www.amazon.com/Shure-CBL-M-...514453398&sr=1-3&keywords=shure+se215+android
Hope this helps.
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Will.gamble said:
Are these earphone as good as the apple ones? I find that usually they are uncomfortable.
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These are all better than Apples ones on any day.

ShermCraig said:
I've been on the hunt for solid in-ear headphones with mic and remote that are compatible with the 5T. My budget is up to approximately $150 US. I was led to believe that you could purchase Shure 215 and buy an aftermarket cable that will make them compatible. Can anyone make a suggestion based on these parameters?
Thanks!
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I've been using Anker Soundbud Curve Bluetooth headphones with my 5T for about couple of weeks now. My experience with them is pretty awesome. They're water resistant and have 12.5 hour battery life. They costed me only $20 on Amazon.

I ordered samsung gear s3 watch a while a go and they are sending me icon x 2018 bt in ear headset as a gift with the watch. I can tell you about my experience with those next week when i receive them

This is all really good info, thank you.
I am really wanting bt headphones that work really well for making calls. I would really like to be able to make clear calls.
Will

I bought mi sport Bluetooth headset mini and cannot be happier. It was only around 30+ bucks but the sound quality is amazing. Maybe u can consider that

I've been using icon x's for a while now and only negative thing imo is battery endurance. I've been using them outside ( -20 °c ) and the battery lasts about 3 hours.
Phone application is quite good and when connected to phone the app speaks incoming notifications between e.g. spotify tracks.

ashensii said:
I've been using icon x's for a while now and only negative thing imo is battery endurance. I've been using them outside ( -20 °c ) and the battery lasts about 3 hours.
Phone application is quite good and when connected to phone the app speaks incoming notifications between e.g. spotify tracks.
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These are quite expensive though.... I've spent good money on bt headphones that I can't use for calls.,

I'm shocked that nobody had mentioned the Xiaomi pro HD headphones. These are without any competition in the 25$/€ range. Flat and wide sound that can be adjust according your needs with an EQ. Plus great build quality.

These are all headsets I can confirm that both the mic and volume buttons are compatible with Android.
Sennheiser HD 1/Momentum In-Ear
Shure SE215 w/ this cable
Klipsch S4i
Any headset from degauss labeled as Android

William Richardson said:
This is all really good info, thank you.
I am really wanting bt headphones that work really well for making calls. I would really like to be able to make clear calls.
Will
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I'd recommend a Plantronics Voyager Legend.
For me the killer feature is the mute button on the headset - no more unlocking your phone to mute/unmute on those long conference calls! Sound quality and battery life are great, plus it can pair with multiple phones and intelligently switch between them, as well as auto picking up a call when you put it on/turn it on. (which you can disable if you dislike)

Byron
I'm currently using Beyerdynamic Byron.... There is mic and standard volume controls + call control which work... Sounds great too...