I saw some post on some Android blog saying someones nexus 4 cracked because of temperature change. That was ridiculous for me, cuz many other phones have gorilla glass 2 on their displays which gets hot and nothing happens. What can be different in glass between front and back of the device?
Also this guy said it cracked while charging:
Hating or true?
Tell me what you think please.
People drop them and then use this as a handy excuse to try and get a new phone.
Same point of view as me
yeah i dont think so, sounds like a scam. it would take some serious heat to crack the glass.
Phaha, idiot dropped it look at the cracking... cant believe some people would be cheeky to claim it was the phones fault they dropped it, **** happens but dont try and run it down like this... Glad this Nexus is doing well, so well that people have to BS issues haha! Only the speaker really is a fault but whether its software or hardware is yet to be know .
Still waiting to be able to order mine .
How much would it need to warm up? Like 110*C? Strange as hell.
If it was temperature change it would have to be from Quadrant to snow in Ojmiakon, right?
i think the back glass isnt gorilla glass
DforDesign said:
I saw some post on some Android blog saying someones nexus 4 cracked because of temperature change.
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An extreme enough temperature change could do that, but there would likely have to be a pre-exisiting defect of some sort. Doesn't take much, a small pit, or the glass back not being aligned properly around the camera lens. That said, I've only ever experienced that with a car windshield or two, not my N4.
vladnosferatu said:
i think the back glass isnt gorilla glass
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I hear people in this forum and many blog sites say it is. But didn't Phil from androidcentral confirm from LG that it is not gorilla glass. He went to where this and the optimus G were made and LG said that it is not gorilla glass on the back, its not glass.
That's interesting. But even if it's not gg it shouldn't break because of heat, right?
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Not if its not real or close to real glass, if its not as good as dispersing heat away from the which I assume is the battery overheating from recharge. Then yes it could possibly crack. However I charge using the included cable and never felt the screen get hot. I think it cracking from heat is real possibility depending what the composition on the back really is.
I keep hearing BS complaints about this phone. I have had 0 problems, no yellow tint, glass doesn't crack or scratch, no software or signal issues. I seriously think people just make **** up in their head or they don't actually own a N4 that are saying these things. I was one of the first to get this phone and its the best phone in quality and performance that I have used. I've had a int. HTC one x, brother has s3, sister has iPhone 5 and I had a gnex before the one x. This phone us ridiculous for $299
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I trust the guy at Droid Life. Wasn't some random dude, it was the main guy at the site. And it's freaked me out enough that when I'm at my parent's house, I'm not putting my bare phone on their granite countertop.
However, I do think it had to have been more than a gently placing the phone on the stone countertop. It HAD to be.
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That's interesting. But even if it's not gg it shouldn't break because of heat, right?
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I think if the phone got hot enough to break the glass it would not have survived it. The most components will take serious damage from the heat also, not only the glass.
It MIGHT be that a rapid temperature change from hot to cold or vice versa could cause the glass to crack. To crack, not to shatter like the one in die video.
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I trust the guy at Droid Life. Wasn't some random dude, it was the main guy at the site. And it's freaked me out enough that when I'm at my parent's house, I'm not putting my bare phone on their granite countertop.
However, I do think it had to have been more than a gently placing the phone on the stone countertop. It HAD to be.
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Yes, because site admins are always right about everything all the time. This whole heat shock stuff is nonsense. The phone doesn't get that hot, and room-temperature isn't that cold. At worst, Kellex had a defective phone. The glass either had a manufacturing problem or it was seated improperly. More likely, he broke it, since he also broke an Optimus G, which has been out longer than the Nexus 4 and hasn't had a big issue with this.
Look at THIS THREAD, if the glass has enough flex to creak, then it's got enough flex to handle any heat stress that doesn't involve you sticking your phone in boiling water after keeping the phone in your fridge.
As for some LG guy claiming the back isn't glass, I'm skeptical of that too. It might not be a proprietary Corning formula, but it's not plastic either, which means it's almost certainly SOME kind of glass.
I took a look at some photos on ifixit and think it might be a round of bad batteries. They have a fault and expand when they are rapid charged and is pushing against the glass causing it to crack. It be cool if one of those guys could open the phone and check the battery.
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It MIGHT be that a rapid temperature change from hot to cold or vice versa could cause the glass to crack. To crack, not to shatter like the one in die video.
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Just theorizing and repeating myself here, but there would have to be an internal defect in the glass, a microscopic chip, or the glass would have to be fitted poorly around the camera lens. The cut out for the lens is rounded, but it's still a weak spot so far as glass is concerned. Would likely need the perfect storm of events to make it happen.
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i think the back glass isnt gorilla glass
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The back is gorilla glass
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silver91342 said:
I took a look at some photos on ifixit and think it might be a round of bad batteries. They have a fault and expand when they are rapid charged and is pushing against the glass causing it to crack. It be cool if one of those guys could open the phone and check the battery.
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Good theory.. Scares me a bit..
If they truly did cracks o easily I'm sure they are doing what they can to get Google to replace them..But if they refuse I guess opening it up to show the battery will be a good way to get momentum on the internet in case it really is happening.
But for all we know they dropped the phones and are just trying to get replacements.
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Good theory.. Scares me a bit..
If they truly did cracks o easily I'm sure they are doing what they can to get Google to replace them..But if they refuse I guess opening it up to show the battery will be a good way to get momentum on the internet in case it really is happening.
But for all we know they dropped the phones and are just trying to get replacements.
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There was another post where someone showed a cracked back on both the LG and the Nexus, they said it was where they were placing the phone onto a cold stone work surface causing a temperature difference. Although if the surface isn't smooth and they drop it with some force and a small raised area of stone meets the glass it would crack it and explain it.
If the phone got as hot as they claimed in that video the safety fuse in the battery should have cut it dead to avoid an explosion, but the phone appears to be working just fine.
The backs are breaking that much we know, then again so do the fronts break on all phones if treated badly. Glass can crack and break, what is hard to ever know from posts here is if the breakage is just in line with other devices and typical, or it is happening statistically more often on the Nexus 4. Of course people will complain of broken phones/glass, but no one is going to post here and complain the glass hasn't become cracked!
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I had my Nexus 4 wrapped in plastic pretty much all day yesterday. Only in the evening I had taken it off. It had no contact with anything that might cause the scratches. This morning I found it had 3 nasty scratches on the screen. How that is possible - I have no idea. The phone was not dropped nor abused!
Maybe the phone you got was in a bad batch, I doubt it's covered by warranty.
So the Gorilla Glass is weak because you have no idea what happened?
Scratches are not caused by thin air friction like you seem to imply. Pocket with keys or change, something that shouldn't have grinded on it did. Please tell us something more convincing than "it was sitting there with the plastic on".
Its gorilla glass 2.. the exact same thing as about 50% of the phones on the market and your is scratched by air?
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So the Gorilla Glass is weak because you have no idea what happened?
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Scratches are not caused by thin air friction like you seem to imply. Pocket with keys or change, something that shouldn't have grinded on it did. Please tell us something more convincing than "it was sitting there with the plastic on".
Its gorilla glass 2.. the exact same thing as about 50% of the phones on the market and your is scratched by air?
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No pockets with change, had it empty specifically, plus had plastic wrap at all times. At home I had it charging either on the wooden table or the chair - Wood scratched the class?
The phone was face-down on both.
Trust me, I'm shocked...
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Scratches are not caused by thin air friction like you seem to imply. Pocket with keys or change, something that shouldn't have grinded on it did. Please tell us something more convincing than "it was sitting there with the plastic on".
Its gorilla glass 2.. the exact same thing as about 50% of the phones on the market and your is scratched by air?
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Pretty much nailed it, it's like when my dad tells me "fish screensaver" installed itself on his computer rofl.
Sabotage from someone.
Time for a screen protector then. They can do a decent job of concealing scratches for you.
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No pockets with change, had it empty specifically, plus had plastic wrap at all times. At home I had it charging either on the wooden table or the chair - Wood scratched the class?
The phone was face-down on both.
Trust me, I'm shocked...
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It had the original plastic on or you had it wrapped in some sort of plastic?
Some pics would be appreciated...
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It had the original plastic on or you had it wrapped in some sort of plastic?
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I had it in original plastic, I was hoping screen protector of ebay would be in today...
Some pics would be good. that way we can try to help you figure out if it was maybe a rogue bear or Beaver. Or maybe ghosts. Most ppl fail to realize how scratchy ghosts are. At any rate, I digress, post some pics. I am an honorary Chipoqua Scout from 18 years ago, I might be able to tell.
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I had my Nexus 4 wrapped in plastic pretty much all day yesterday. Only in the evening I had taken it off. It had no contact with anything that might cause the scratches. This morning I found it had 3 nasty scratches on the screen. How that is possible - I have no idea. The phone was not dropped nor abused!
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Obviously something went wrong, it's like a person complaining about armour plating when they got hit at point blank range.
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AntonJart said:
I had my Nexus 4 wrapped in plastic pretty much all day yesterday. Only in the evening I had taken it off. It had no contact with anything that might cause the scratches. This morning I found it had 3 nasty scratches on the screen. How that is possible - I have no idea. The phone was not dropped nor abused!
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I blame sleepwalking.
We all know its not scratch proof.
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Angry cat maybe? Are you ignoring your pets due to playing on your phone?
Tiny grains of sand can easily scratch gorilla glass. Easier than keys or coins.
They are not visible unless I use flash. Right bottom corner, two are in X shape and one near the edge.
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Maybe it's your good looks. Be lucky it didn't shatter. In the future, take more care of it. I've owned nearly a dozen devices and have never had problems except for the time I let a friend use the stylus on the phone and pressed way too hard.
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Maybe it's your good looks. Be lucky it didn't shatter. In the future, take more care of it. I've owned nearly a dozen devices and have never had problems except for the time I let a friend use the stylus on the phone and pressed way too hard.
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I've owned a lot of devices myself, never had a single scratch on them. This is the first time, I cant even think of what have I done to this phone to get scratches like that.
I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously?
Got a piece of tape on in it here in the picture, wanted to hold in the glass shards. I'd love to get it repaired, but I contacted Nexus and LG support and it sounds like their warranty process is a hole I don't want to dig myself into, probably would end up with a too large bill due to "physical damage" and a phone no more intact than it is now. Not to mention being out a phone for weeks, how can anyone tolerate that? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to take off my nice bumper case and cover up that now uglified back with a more full coverage TPU case.
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Update: Well I'm sure many would say I'm wrong and an impact caused it, but I'm reasonably certain I know when it happened. I work on robotic equipment and was doing a calibration procedure tonight when I heard an odd crack. At first I thought it was the machine, but the sound signature was wrong and repeating the procedure didn't cause it to reoccur. I was standing straight up not leaning on anything or having any pressure against that pocket when I heard the sound. It was only later when I was heading home I noticed the odd feel of the back of the phone and discovered the crack. I figure that crack sound must have been it. Shocked me, I've never had a phone crack before, I'm very careful how I handle them. Oh, and I don't wear skinny jeans - I'm build like a defensive lineman, so relaxed fit all the way.
Some people have suggested sending the phone to LG, but they don't have any advance replacement program, and I can't afford to go without my phone for 2 weeks just to get a repair estimate. Got my Diztronic TPU case on order, frankly this is the first phone in years I haven't used one of their cases on, my mistake for thinking the phone would be well built enough that the official case would do the job. I will have to look and see if my credit card has any extended warranty program thing though.
Update 2- So it looks like the damage might be covered under my credit card purchase assurance plan, I have to get an itemized repair estimate to complete the claim though. Hopefully a local place can give me that, like heck if I'm going to send the phone to LG for 2 weeks just for that. Frankly the cost of being without a good phone for that period is worth more to me than the cost of the repair, I'd rather just wait till the part becomes available and pay for it myself. It sounds like they also do replacements if repair isn't feasible due to parts not available, etc. Although the phone isn't currently available either, so we'll see how that goes.
On another note I spoke to one of my friends last night who works for a cell carrier that has many Nexus 4s on their network. She said that 3 employees at the location she works also had cracks on their Nexus 4's in almost the exact same spot. She didn't say they were spontaneous, but clearly it is a weak area on the back of the phone. At least one of them was using a full coverage case when it broke, apparently a TPU case. Alas as regretful the thought of covering such a nice looking back panel is, those who don't have broken backs yet may want to invest in high-impact cases, simple TPU or the bumper doesn't look to be cutting it. Since mine is already broken, TPU should be good enough I suppose, mainly just want to cover up the damage.
wot that really sucks. and yah.. the speaker and the camera are the soft spots. the really bad thing is the back has a lot to it. i dont see them as being cheap. some guy managed to get a couple from lg.
wow, amazing, that looks JUST like what I would expect from impact...
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wow, amazing, that looks JUST like what I would expect from impact...
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This happened to a guy who went to the movie theater a few weeks back. Same exact place on the phone.
Wow ...
If you search the forums there was one guy with the exact some thing... claimed he treated the phone very well and then for no reason all the glass smashed around the speaker like that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999345&highlight=cracked+glass
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I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously?
Got a piece of tape on in it here in the picture, wanted to hold in the glass shards. I'd love to get it repaired, but I contacted Nexus and LG support and it sounds like their warranty process is a hole I don't want to dig myself into, probably would end up with a too large bill due to "physical damage" and a phone no more intact than it is now. Not to mention being out a phone for weeks, how can anyone tolerate that? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to take off my nice bumper case and cover up that now uglified back with a more full coverage TPU case.
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Obviously impact. Nice try though. Next.
I voided my warranty.
Looks like the crack propagated from the picture's top right "corner" of the speaker opening. Assuming that it is not the result of an impact as you say, the radius of the cut out could be too tight to account for flexing of the phone.
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I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously.
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Uh, pretty sure official bumpers aren't meant to protect that. it's meant to make the phone land on its bumper edges. Not protect the phone's back or front. Only protection for that would be having your device to never touch the surface.
Not sure people should be so quick to assume it's always the result of mistreatment. The phone has problems with the glue, the glass is thin, if it separates even marginally from the back of the phone, that's enough to open the door up for cracking your glass with ease.
happened to a friend of mine as well..not as bad as this but it is happening to a lot of people
Well I'm sure many would say I'm wrong and an impact caused it, but I'm reasonably certain I know when it happened. I work on robotic equipment and was doing a calibration procedure tonight when I heard an odd crack. At first I thought it was the machine, but the sound signature was wrong and repeating the procedure didn't cause it to reoccur. I was standing straight up not leaning on anything or having any pressure against that pocket when I heard the sound. It was only later when I was heading home I noticed the odd feel of the back of the phone and discovered the crack. I figure that crack sound must have been it. Shocked me, I've never had a phone crack before, I'm very careful how I handle them.
Man that sucks. Also recall another user that had the same shattering. Assume you ate going to give Google a call? Did the other guy get a replacement for his phone?
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I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously?
Got a piece of tape on in it here in the picture, wanted to hold in the glass shards. I'd love to get it repaired, but I contacted Nexus and LG support and it sounds like their warranty process is a hole I don't want to dig myself into, probably would end up with a too large bill due to "physical damage" and a phone no more intact than it is now. Not to mention being out a phone for weeks, how can anyone tolerate that? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to take off my nice bumper case and cover up that now uglified back with a more full coverage TPU case.
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This guy has an OEM back covers, you can replace it if you want, shouldn't be too expensive.
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Uh, pretty sure official bumpers aren't meant to protect that. it's meant to make the phone land on its bumper edges. Not protect the phone's back or front. Only protection for that would be having your device to never touch the surface.
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Well somewhat, a bumper still protects the back by distributing an impact along the edges of the phone as long as it is from a source wide enough it does not point through that perimeter. Drop a phone with a bumper 4 feet onto a flat surface vs one without, odds are the bumper will save the first phone. As I was not whacking my pocket against sharp edges, I don't see how having a bumper vs a full case would make a difference here.
This is reminding me of a time when the back window on a what was a virtually brand new Fiat Cinquecento shattered whilst parked in my drive. Fiat replaced it under warranty as these things happen from time to time. It was a hot day, and the glass ran out of room to expand (and the seal was not fitted properly), and it just shattered, I'm wondering if the glass expands at a different rate to the rest of the phone back, when it gets warm. If this is the case, then this problem will become very common.
Point of impact.
Case closed.
Too bad it happened buddy.
Maybe a jean snap put pressure on it in a specific spot? Really unfortunate :crying:
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Point of impact.
Case closed.
Too bad it happened buddy.
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It that's a point of impact, it's exceedingly small, like tip of pen small.
Glass back meeeeeeeeh :silly:
Another guy wearing skinny jeans messing up his phone? j/k
I would be fairly pissed off if this happened to me, that and I'm sure 99% would just think I'm full of it.
After owning the phone for literally 7 days, my girlfriend managed to shatter the screen on her N5. She says it fell off a counter and landed face down. The glass is so bad you can feel it, and when you run your fingers across the screen you actually get little bits of glass powder on your fingers.
Surprisingly, the LCD is perfectly fine.
And here's how bad it is...
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After owning the phone for literally 7 days, my girlfriend managed to shatter the screen on her N5. She says it fell off a counter and landed face down. The glass is so bad you can feel it, and when you run your fingers across the screen you actually get little bits of glass powder on your fingers.
Surprisingly, the LCD is perfectly fine.
And here's how bad it is...
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There is no phone that can withstand a drop from a counter top and land on its face. This is nothing new.
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not this again....
Gorilla glass is scratch resistant. NOT Impact/Shatter resistant. It never has been.
Phones break. It's not the glasses fault.
I know it'll break. But I just have never seen GG shatter like that. It was crazy to me. I'm not complaining, or raising a stink. I just didn't know it was possible. All of the test videos I've seen it seemed to withstand harsher conditions. But oh well.
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Not sure what N5 drop test you watched lol. All the ones I have seen end up looking like your girls phone
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I know it'll break. But I just have never seen GG shatter like that. It was crazy to me. I'm not complaining, or raising a stink. I just didn't know it was possible. All of the test videos I've seen it seemed to withstand harsher conditions. But oh well.
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But Gorilla Glass isn't even shatter resistant. The title of the thread is complaining about Gorilla Glass 3, but it has nothing to do with Gorilla Glass.
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Not sure what N5 drop test you watched lol. All the ones I have seen end up looking like your girls phone
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Lol, I think I watched them run over a phone with GG3 with a car and the glass didn't break at all. But everything else inside did, lol
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my95z34 said:
Lol, I think I watched them run over a phone with GG3 with a car and the glass didn't break at all. But everything else inside did, lol
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You must surprise when that car has concrete like tires and the phone doesn't break.
You can throw a Basket Ball on top of a phone and nothing could happen, but the story may vary if you do it with a lighter but much harder Golf ball
Getting run over is a lot of pressure, but also low impact. I'm sure they went real slow over it right? Not like driving by at 40mph+ ?
Different story when it's dropped. It's higher impact. Your phone is actually falling into something and coming to an abrupt stop from however fast it was going.
Driving over it won't do it any justice because think of how wide a tire is. As it passes over the phone, most of the pressure is going to be more or less evenly distributed over the face of the glass. Also, tires are made of rubber. Soft material. Not to mention the suspension will give a little when the tire goes over the phone.
It's two different ballparks man, apples to oranges.
Watch any actual "drop" test. The glass won't survive a drop. As mentioned earlier by others GG3 is scratch resistant. Not shatter proof.
Gotcha.
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Terribly sorry for your loss. My hats off to the fallen N5.
May I recommend these in the future?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GQOQKJE
Best glass screen protector I've found for this phone. Pretty cheap, too. Only bad part is they ship from China. So you will probably forgot you ordered it by the time you get it.
I've personally applied 3 to 3 different N5. My old one, my new one and a friends. Application is pretty easy if you know how to put one on.
Comes with everything you need plus instructions too. I haven't seen one air bubble or had any part of mine lift off the screen ever.
I swear women break their phones like it's no big deal. I stopped buying my girlfriends phones years ago after having to buy 2 different Blackberrys. My current gf has shattered her iPhone 5 twice this year and had to go get it's screen swapped. I baby all my stuff whether it's my car or my phone lol.
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Dude. Glass is GLASS why do people not understand that there will NEVER be an unbreakable phone! Stop! Its stupid. Sorry about the phone but seriously... Where did ANYONE say that the glass would be unbreakable??? The GLASS fell FACE DOWN on (I'm going to assume) TILE!
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*Cough* Sorry to sound kinda mean, but its a phone made of glass. Glass is not shatter proof, it is very brittle. T
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Terribly sorry for your loss. My hats off to the fallen N5.
May I recommend these in the future?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GQOQKJE
Best glass screen protector I've found for this phone. Pretty cheap, too. Only bad part is they ship from China. So you will probably forgot you ordered it by the time you get it.
I've personally applied 3 to 3 different N5. My old one, my new one and a friends. Application is pretty easy if you know how to put one on.
Comes with everything you need plus instructions too. I haven't seen one air bubble or had any part of mine lift off the screen ever.
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I have this on my phone. Don't know if my Nexus will survive a deadly fall with it on there but it's suppose to.
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Gorrila Glass is crazy strong compared to Soda-lime glass. It can do some amazing things which can be seen in very specific tests on the internet. This gives people a sense that the glass is more or less indestructible. In many cases it will not be.
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Exactly what I meant. Plus if the tires are not overfilled (set to the recommended pressure on the tag in the driver door) then the tires have a little give to them as well.
That can't really be used as an accurate test of how your phones glass will hold up. As I said earlier he went really slow at first. Even on the last one he was only doing about 10-20mph. In the beginning he even had a towel under it.
I hate when people make those videos because it doesn't accurately depict how the phone will react under stress. I mean how many people are going to accidentally run over their phones? Even if you do, you probably would have had to DROP it somewhere, first. Go by DROP tests. Those "drive" tests are completely useless.
Yeah, I understand.
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This feeling isn't new--I've been unhappy with the Nexus 4 since it arrived. It's the only phone I've ever owned that I would call "beautiful", but its design, hardware, and low-level software problems are ridiculous. But I'm not going to talk about muted speakers, phone sliding off surfaces, 3G or Wifi problems, or batteries that won't charge. I'd like to tell you about the power button.
My power button got harder and harder to press over time, eventually becoming completely impossible. The repair was cheap. But what makes me so angry is that though I never got my phone wet, the button was corroded by water.
How did this problem occur? I live in a warm and humid climate. I keep the phone in my pocket. In the gym, I took precautions (using a case and turning the open part of the case *away* from my body). But as many of you know, the Nexus 4 gets ridiculously hot, especially gaming (or when using GPU+gps+data at the same time). It was basically impossible not to sweat on this phone. And it broke as a result.
In short, LG and Google designed a phone that makes its users really hot, yet corrodes and fails if you keep it in a sweaty pocket.
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This feeling isn't new--I've been unhappy with the Nexus 4 since it arrived. It's the only phone I've ever owned that I would call "beautiful", but its design, hardware, and low-level software problems are ridiculous. But I'm not going to talk about muted speakers, phone sliding off surfaces, 3G or Wifi problems, or batteries that won't charge. I'd like to tell you about the power button.
My power button got harder and harder to press over time, eventually becoming completely impossible. The repair was cheap. But what makes me so angry is that though I never got my phone wet, the button was corroded by water.
How did this problem occur? I live in a warm and humid climate. I keep the phone in my pocket. In the gym, I took precautions (using a case and turning the open part of the case *away* from my body). But as many of you know, the Nexus 4 gets ridiculously hot, especially gaming (or when using GPU+gps+data at the same time). It was basically impossible not to sweat on this phone. And it broke as a result.
In short, LG and Google designed a phone that makes its users really hot, yet corrodes and fails if you keep it in a sweaty pocket.
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Yeah i expected also when i bought the nexus 4 that everything would be good since google make the system for nexus 4 but my problem was that wifi was really bad and the phone was slippery but i fixed that with an anti slip protector for the back. I also have the first revision of nexus 4 and i don't have too much trouble. The button can get corroded by water if its humid or if its really cold and laying by the window (noticed that with my tablet) that the battery won't charge could aoso be the usb port. Gaming goes also hot with gps and data but then you need to try an custom rom with HellsDoctor or Hellscore they keep it pretty cool all the time and good battery usage.
I agree with you That lg and google designed a phone that makes it users really hot cause even on stock normal browsing made my phone really hot. I just hope that google will fix all those software problems with 4.4.3 or even 5. And is your phone now broken?
broken back
The problem is one way or another nexus 4 back will be cracked and now it's almost impossible to see nexus 4 with not broken back.
Errr...what did you expect, that quad core CPU and rather powerful GPU cranked in small phone body will be cold on heavy usage???
Slippery??? Someone pinch me is this a dream...am I in wonderland
Keep electric device in humid environment and it corrodes...wow...water is wet imagine that LOL
I mean you can be disappointed...but your arguments are out of this world :silly:
Thanks for making me laugh :good: :highfive:
What tha...!
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NEXUSg4 said:
The problem is one way or another nexus 4 back will be cracked and now it's almost impossible to see nexus 4 with not broken back.
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Anything on this planet can be cracked...
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The problem is one way or another nexus 4 back will be cracked and now it's almost impossible to see nexus 4 with not broken back.
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Nope, my N4 is still without scratch after 10 months. Never dropped it.
Talking about problems that this device "have", I had few android phones and with every phone there were some problems. There is no phone on this planet that is perfect so it is either live with that or just don't buy smartphones (or any other phones).
Great for you.. Though cracked I love this phone
Well this probablly a 1/100000 case.
Realistic way of solving: Don't drive up design costs for any unprobable usages losing millions of potential customers
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Errr...what did you expect, that quad core CPU and rather powerful GPU cranked in small phone body will be cold on heavy usage???
Keep electric device in humid environment and it corrodes...wow...water is wet imagine that LOL
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Where is your ambition, and how can you be satisfied with such pathetic design problems? Certainly they are difficult problems, but other manufacturers have managed to solve them. Have you never used a HTC or Samsung? My HTC doesn't overheat to that degree, even though it has an extremely conductive metal body.
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Well this probablly a 1/100000 case.
Realistic way of solving: Don't drive up design costs for any unprobable usages losing millions of potential customers
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Everyone that runs or works out. Everyone that lives in a hot and humid environment. I guess this won't be a problem for you are always inside your home/car/office and drive everywhere. BTW, did you notice Google made a rather good game called Ingress, which encourages you to get outside? I recommend giving it a try.
sodium based sweat..what do u expect.?
Launch day device here and none of these issues happen to me. Love my n4 ?
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Where is your ambition, and how can you be satisfied with such pathetic design problems? Certainly they are difficult problems, but other manufacturers have managed to solve them. Have you never used a HTC or Samsung? My HTC doesn't overheat to that degree, even though it has an extremely conductive metal body.
Everyone that runs or works out. Everyone that lives in a hot and humid environment. I guess this won't be a problem for you are always inside your home/car/office and drive everywhere. BTW, did you notice Google made a rather good game called Ingress, which encourages you to get outside? I recommend giving it a try.
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Jup...used Samsung...HTC...LG...
And what cooling solution did anyone found...air-water cooling??? Do you suggest LG and Google managed to produce heat multiplier??? If that is the case it is great invention next to wheel and electricity invention
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And what cooling solution did anyone found...air-water cooling??? Do you suggest LG and Google managed to produce heat multiplier??? If that is the case it is great invention next to wheel and electricity invention
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Indeed, before I sold my Nexus 4 (last night), I had planned to put it beneath a kettle to boil water. Above this would be a turbine, generating electricity during to save money on my utilities bills. And plugged in to this power source would be a USB cable, to keep the Nexus 4 charged. Thus, the Nexus 4 is inefficient beyond the allowed limits of physics, creating a paradox that allows perpetual free energy.
But maybe that was just my N4--yours may not work for this.
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sodium based sweat..what do u expect.?
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Do you not think a phone (a very hot-running phone) should continue to work after being carried in jeans pockets? Is it normal to fail?
I highly doubt that it can corrode from just a sweaty tshirt...(i work on a car wash,my phone gets more that that and still works perfect)
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I highly doubt that it can corrode from just a sweaty tshirt...(i work on a car wash,my phone gets more that that and still works perfect)
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That's what I thought, and that's why I'm angry.
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The problem is one way or another nexus 4 back will be cracked and now it's almost impossible to see nexus 4 with not broken back.
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Where is your ambition, and how can you be satisfied with such pathetic design problems? Certainly they are difficult problems, but other manufacturers have managed to solve them. Have you never used a HTC or Samsung? My HTC doesn't overheat to that degree, even though it has an extremely conductive metal body.
Everyone that runs or works out. Everyone that lives in a hot and humid environment. I guess this won't be a problem for you are always inside your home/car/office and drive everywhere. BTW, did you notice Google made a rather good game called Ingress, which encourages you to get outside? I recommend giving it a try.
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Indeed, before I sold my Nexus 4 (last night), I had planned to put it beneath a kettle to boil water. Above this would be a turbine, generating electricity during to save money on my utilities bills. And plugged in to this power source would be a USB cable, to keep the Nexus 4 charged. Thus, the Nexus 4 is inefficient beyond the allowed limits of physics, creating a paradox that allows perpetual free energy.
But maybe that was just my N4--yours may not work for this.
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I feel sorry for the forum of your next phone
Nexus 4 is my first and will be my last Nexus phone....until Google get it's **** together, i'll stick with Samsung. I was much happier with my Note 2....even though it was too big.
The thing that bothers me the most is the thing the should be the best --- screen. The IPS panel has good colors once PA_Halfbreed is applied, but it looks TFT-ish (Cheap) in dark rooms.In medium light the screen is wonderful - like OLED. And then outside it is too reflective and not bright even on max brightness....700 nits my ass
Vertical angles good....horizontal angles ok.....45 degree horizontal angles.....ZERO
oh guys...!!! i just put my guitar on the bed and the z1 was on the pillow ! the impact was totally nothing..less than one cm ... no doubt on that..
it was not a impact that makes the screen like it..
considering that there is no anti shatter film ( which there is one ! ) the gorilla glass 3 should break out this easy???!!!
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And... the touch is not working .the screen goes crazy when i turn it on and the upper half isn't working at all...
check the pics
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considering that there is no anti shatter film ( which there is one ! ) the gorilla glass 3 should break out this easy???!!!
And... the touch is not working .the screen goes crazy when i turn it on and the upper half isn't working at all...
check the pics
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who said Z1 using gorilla glass 3 dude?
check THIS out !!
see under Protection: Shatter proof and scratch-resistant glass there's no one said Z1 using gorilla glass eve in worldwide
that doesn't mean that Z1's screen unbreakable! but just scratchless, hope this helpful for you.... next time see detail specs and consider carefully before bought something
Sony Xperia Z1 is using Dragontrail on the front and Gorilla glass on the back, that impact was just a bad luck
Man y'know, guitars r heavy (if it is electro)
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MARKOZD15 said:
Sony Xperia Z1 is using Dragontrail on the front and Gorilla glass on the back, that impact was just a bad luck
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thats exactly correct...that was a real bad luck!
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Man y'know, guitars r heavy (if it is electro)
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man! its not electro and i just put the bottom in the bed gently and the head just felt on the screen so much lightly ! the impact was noting at all!
bad luck ,...
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thats exactly correct...that was a real bad luck!
man! its not electro and i just put the bottom in the bed gently and the head just felt on the screen so much lightly ! the impact was noting at all!
bad luck ,...
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WTH? Our phone is that unprotected? I wasn't expecting that :/
Man, I wish your phone (and you) get better.
Z1 isn't hard to replace the screen. Did for mine with no issues. Check witrigs.com for instructions and all the needed parts.
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WTH? Our phone is that unprotected? I wasn't expecting that :/
Man, I wish your phone (and you) get better.
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i'm shocking because of that! i dont know. maybe there are some weak points or that was quite a bad bad bad luck
but i think a screen guard ( which i removed 3days ago) could protect it a little bit better.maybe It wouldn't break if the screen guard was installed.by the way , I was expecting the touch to stand working but now my z1 is useless totally! keeps yours safe and try using a front covered case.
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Z1 isn't hard to replace the screen. Did for mine with no issues. Check witrigs.com for instructions and all the needed parts.
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man the problem is money ! in Iran these parts are totally expensive (about 250 US$) just for screen!which 1$ is 3000Tomans and i just earn 600,000Tomans each month
but thanks for noticing. I may one day try to replace it by my own!
It's just bad luck m8, I feel for you but the fact of the matter is the devices now cracked and it'd be impossible to convince Sony or your provider of how it happened and to get a sympathetic ear, looks to me like you'll have to either fix it yourself or claim on insurance.
Did you insure it? How old is it if not? You may be able to add insurance on from your provider, I know EE in the UK offer this service at any time.
It's actually Dragontrail glass. But both Gorilla and Dragontrail are NOT unbreakable: they are harder, so they are less likely to scratch, but that makes them more prone to break. Diamonds, for example, are the hardest material known; but they break/chip very easily. Our phones are like that, if there's a light impact on the wrong angle the screen will shatter easily.
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who said Z1 using gorilla glass 3 dude?
check THIS out !!
see under Protection: Shatter proof and scratch-resistant glass there's no one said Z1 using gorilla glass eve in worldwide
that doesn't mean that Z1's screen unbreakable! but just scratchless, hope this helpful for you.... next time see detail specs and consider carefully before bought something
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The Z1 scratches quite easily. My S4 remained pristine after over a year of use, so did my Galaxy Note. This scratched within a month and continues to get minor scratches over time.
I hear you with the scratches, i've had cases on my phone since day one and there are scratches on the back of the phone, it's never been without a case and i take very good care of my devices, the front and back now have Zagg shields on them so they're ok now but yea it does scratch very easily, especially the back.
Its breakable anyhow.
It's quite breakable as far as i noticed, and also scratcahble All tested and failed..
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By the way, the touch screen is too expensive like 200 euros..
It's realy looks like i gonna sell it out soon..
I was walking to my car today and dropped my phone...It landed flat on the screen. Picked it up and it had about 5 pretty bad scratches on it, but when I got home I took the stock screen protector off and it looks brand new now.
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Lancerz said:
I was walking to my car today and dropped my phone...It landed flat on the screen. Picked it up and it had about 5 pretty bad scratches on it, but when I got home I took the stock screen protector off and it looks brand new now.
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That can be only coincidence. Have you ever noticed or heard that it's getting scracthed while all protecters on ?
Wonder why they produce so expensive mobiles that breaks so easly... I think we are the lazy consumers who don't search enough
It's all about luck chaps, i've dropped a phone from the top of a cupboard which is around 9 feet up onto slate, one single dent nothing else and yet i've seen someone drop the same phone from less than 2 feet and the whole screen has smashed ? Not worth trying to figure out, once that phones in free fall it's simply a case of luck.
Oh i forgot, we also threw a 9320 blackberry down some stairs, concrete covered with lino, around 50 steps. Some bumps and bruises but no cracks
In my phone too
by the way since i dont have enough money to buy a new phone ( z1 or z2 or any other new phones) I decided to repair it :laugh: and planning for the z3 . beacuase in Iran there is no insurance for phones ( just for HTC ) and no warranty and even if I had the bootloader is unlocked so its voided . the only concern here is for replacement cares. most of repairers dont care enough so you will see the repair marks on body.
one question , the new lcd even the original one (which i want to use) has the same quality ? does it fit on body completely? the colors? every thing is the same?
I think so