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Hi All!!
My current mobile phone is coming to the end of its contract next month so I started to look round at the alternatives.
I came across the tytn 2 and the more I read about it the more I wanted it. Then I came across this forum and now I can't wait to get it (how sad is that, I'm acting like a kid and I'm 47!!).
I do have a question though and that is how easy it was to upgrade it to windows mobile 6.1 because I think it comes with 6???
Apologies if this is a bit off topic but I wondered if anyone out there in the UK has been offered a better deal than me on the Tytn by Orange.
My deal...
On a £30 per month/18 month tariff with money knocked off for handing in an old phone (£50) it comes to £24.44 per month.
For this I get 100 mins per month and unlimited texts
And finally the Tytn 2 itself will cost me £80 and they're throwing in a free but cheap bluetooth headset.
Sorry to go on a bit and again I hope asking about my deal isn't off topic...
I'd do it if i were you. Tytn II is a good friend in your pocket.
But with 100 Callminutes.. bit to low though.
I say: Do it!
Thanks ElProempie
All comments keenly received (the more the better!)
I am on orange and was going to leave them this month, i got the folowing for £40 a month, I am in band 4 of 5 some months my bill used to be a couple of hundred..
1800 mins,
500 texts,
a bolt on that can be unlimited texts, orange calls or land line calls.
250MB web usage
a free tytn 2
I accepted
Hi Sorted69
Thanks for the info, I'm nowhere near you for usage and I've got to keep the monthly cost to £25 at the most.............keep em coming though!!
Forgive me for being a noob world traveler...
Are cell phone plans really that expensive in Europe? I pay $40USD for 450 minutes per month and my unused minutes build up to prevent overage charges. I also have unlimited Data/SMS/MMS for $40USD.
I pay ~$70/mo with taxes once my corporate discount is taken from the normal figures above.
Can't help with the costs, but it's really easy to upgrade the TyTN II. Just use Olipro's unlocker (stick'ed in the Kaiser ROM forum) to install hardSPL, and to SIM and CID unlock it. Just pick a ROM and follow the (easy) instructions. Job done!
(btw, my phone was originally an Orange TyTN II)
NotATreoFan said:
Forgive me for being a noob world traveler...
Are cell phone plans really that expensive in Europe? I pay $40USD for 450 minutes per month and my unused minutes build up to prevent overage charges. I also have unlimited Data/SMS/MMS for $40USD.
I pay ~$70/mo with taxes once my corporate discount is taken from the normal figures above.
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so your getting 450 mins unlimited texts and net access for the equivelent of £35 a month INCLUDING your discounts.
And your saying the UK is expensive?!
1800 mins,
500 texts,
a bolt on that can be unlimited texts, orange calls or land line calls.
250MB web usage
a free tytn 2
I get that for the equivelent of $80 a month.
I currently pay £27.50 ($54) per month for 75 minutes of calls, 100 texts, and 120mb of data, on a 12 month contract. Since the plan's perfectly suited to my needs, I rarely if ever exceed any of this, so $54 is exactly what I pay each month. Signing up to this, the Tytn II cost me just £50 ($99) last October.
I can upgrade again come August (60 days before the contract ends), not sure what they'll offer me...
Thanks again guys, it's interesting to see what other people are paying!
synet when you say just pick a ROM.........where from???
And do these ROM's have mobile 6.1 on them??
Thanks
Boinng...........this makes me think I should venture into the vodafone and possibly O2 shops before I go ahead with the deal on orange this Saturday!
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familyguy said:
Thanks again guys, it's interesting to see what other people are paying!
synet when you say just pick a ROM.........where from???
And do these ROM's have mobile 6.1 on them??
Thanks
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Please use the search function associated with this forum!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383904
Familyguy, best to read the wiki, linked in the above post.
BTW, I'm new to this too. I've only had mine for 2 or 3 weeks, so don't ask me for advice
As to costs, mine gets paid for by my company
This has turned in to a "I pay less than you do" thread.
@ OP
Who cares what who pays. I live by the rule that if I am willing to pay the price that someone is asking, then it is not too much. It all depends on what you are willing to pay. As to 6.1 roms, there is a plethora of cooked 6.1 roms to choose from, from loaded to light. The choice is yours. You don't need anyones advice on whether or not to "Do It" or not. Some would say no due to driver issues and others would say "Go For It". As for driver issues, I really don't see what all the fuss is about. I dont use my phone for serious multimedia. Thats what my laptop is for. I say if you don't think the price is to high or to good to be true then "Go For It". Do what you want and don't let anyone influence your decision. However, all that being said, if and when you purchase it and then decide you made the wrong decision, everything you need to tweak the **** out of it is located in this forum. I really didn't like my Tilt after I first got it, but now I love it. I can change the damn thing daily. It's like getting a new phone every day.
familyguy said:
Boinng...........this makes me think I should venture into the vodafone and possibly O2 shops before I go ahead with the deal on orange this Saturday!
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Definitely worth shopping around - although note that Vodafone call their version of the Tytn II (aka Kaiser) a "Vodafone V1615", and for O2 it's the "O2 XDA Stellar". Both the same thing, slightly different roms and paint jobs, that's all.
My V1615 came sim unlocked (so I can potentially use it on any network), and I've since used the tools on this forum to flash it to the generic HTC rom, so it is to all intents and purposes a generic HTC Tytn II now
Thanks again guys, I had a look at the link above but didn't notice any 6.1 roms......I'll have a further search though, it's probably me not looking hard enough (wife always finds things but I can look directly at something without seeing it!!)
Trouble with O2 and voda is that they don't do a pink viewty which the wife wants at the same time, plus if we get 2 phones at the same time orange will offer us 1000 free orange to orange minutes per month!!
Seems like I might have a good deal then
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so your getting 450 mins unlimited texts and net access for the equivelent of £35 a month INCLUDING your discounts.
And your saying the UK is expensive?!
1800 mins,
500 texts,
a bolt on that can be unlimited texts, orange calls or land line calls.
250MB web usage
a free tytn 2
I get that for the equivelent of $80 a month.
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Well you all seem to get good phones cheaper then us. The cheapest I've seen the Tilt here was $149 with a 24 month contract. All we get for free here is a *insert random featureless phone model here*.
You obviously have a good monthly plan. However, unless my currency translator (ie my brain) is malfunctioning, you seem to be getting a better deal then the OP.
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Thanks again guys, I had a look at the link above but didn't notice any 6.1 roms
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Most of the roms being released in the rom development forum are 6.1.
Thanks P1Tater.........it does make sense.........I totally forgot there were other forums in this section..........DOH!!
Dolphin 35, an 18 month contract, £35 a month for 18 months with the option of 5 months free. That brings the total cost to £455, only £55 more than the Sim free cost of the phone and you get unlimited web browsing and unlimited texts and 600 minutes.
Orange may have a poor reputation, but that deal is unbelievably good.
See here: http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-htc-touch-diamond.html#MobilePhoneTariffs
Edit: My mistake, there's no unlimited data with that deal. It looks like you have to buy through orange for unlimited data which comes to a total of £540, £90 quid more. Still not bad though.
The standard warning applies with the above offers and all like it. You are likely to not get that money due to obscure overcomplicated rules on redeeming the cashback, normally involving goats, virgins, and lunar eclipses.
It's been scientifically proven that people too evil to be a seal-clubber or second-hand car salesman go on to run discount phone websites.
The original deal direct from Orange is still good though. In fact, it's the one I signed up for earlier.
Or you could get all that and a free ipod or projector or whatever you want, done it with my last phone and an xbox 360 and it all worked fine.
joey7415963 said:
Or you could get all that and a free ipod or projector or whatever you want, done it with my last phone and an xbox 360 and it all worked fine.
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You pay more though, the original deal i quote was £455, to get a 'free' Xbox Arcade it would cost £720. That's £265 more for a console thats worth £150 - So you're wasting £115! Hardly free ey?
i just got a upgrade
they have given me 650 cross network
unlimited landline calls
unlimited texts
"unlimited" data
18 month contract...which i don't mind.... £30
this was direct from orange....no funny middle men
Free direct from orange on £30 pm
Just bought mine on upgrade, direct from orange for £30 pm 600mins + unlimited text and web, phone was free!
I suspect you can get it for free on the £25pm but I wanted unlimited web.
ljames28 said:
Dolphin 35, an 18 month contract, £35 a month for 18 months with the option of 5 months free. That brings the total cost to £455, only £55 more than the Sim free cost of the phone and you get unlimited web browsing and unlimited texts and 600 minutes.
Orange may have a poor reputation, but that deal is unbelievably good.
See here: http://www.mobiles.co.uk/orange-htc-touch-diamond.html#MobilePhoneTariffs
Edit: My mistake, there's no unlimited data with that deal. It looks like you have to buy through orange for unlimited data which comes to a total of £540, £90 quid more. Still not bad though.
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Oranges' deals are not that good at all.
First of all 18 month contracts for any WM Device enthusist are terrible. You want to try the new forthcoming WM7 HTC devices, you will want a 12 month deal.
Secondly Orange's unlimited data isnt unlimited. Its a 500MB fair use policy (too little) that - according to their website (and there has been some confusion about this) is limited to 2 months. After 2 months, you pay for the data package.
You need to check if these 3rd party dealers are giving the unlimited mobile data. I just ordered with M2YD on a Dolphin 35 18 month contract, free handset and this DOES include the unlimited mobile browing (confirmed with M2YD and Orange CS on the phone). £35 per month with £210 back on redemption and £55 cashback with quidco. This means my total cost for the 18months will be £365
Me too
I've ordered from m2yd.
Dolphin 35 .... £210 cashback, unlimited internet and texts. £55 back from www.quidco.com
In all, over 18 months it will cost me £20.28 per month
Best deal currently available over 18 months ... I think I've searched them all!
darthbane2k said:
Oranges' deals are not that good at all.
First of all 18 month contracts for any WM Device enthusist are terrible. You want to try the new forthcoming WM7 HTC devices, you will want a 12 month deal.
Secondly Orange's unlimited data isnt unlimited. Its a 500MB fair use policy (too little) that - according to their website (and there has been some confusion about this) is limited to 2 months. After 2 months, you pay for the data package.
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The contract may be 18 months but i was simply looking at the total cost. As in, if a phone comes out in 12 months that you want, buy that also. There's nothing to stop you running two contracts concurrently. If you've seen a better deal from another network, post it, just because it's an 18 month deal doesn't make it bad.
Also, show me a network that does unlimited data that doesn't have a fair usage policy? Hell, every ISP has one, why wouldn't a phone network who has to send data over a massive infrastructure of cell towers
Btw, im not an Orange fan, im a Tmobile fan, no bias here.
I don't worry about the 18 months thing. For heavily subsidied expensive phones, it often works out that the TCO over 18 months is just a few more £ than over 12 months.
Way back when I got my Wizard with Vodafone, the 18 month contract was about £20 more than with a 12 month contract. I still got my Vario II 12 months later, but then had a spare contract phone for 6 months for £20.
As for the whole "unlimited" thing, it's not just in regards to data, they also wrap "unlimite texts" etc. in similar weasel words. I'm surprised that they're all allowed to get away with it still. It's pure false advertising, and they all do it.
ljames28 said:
The contract may be 18 months but i was simply looking at the total cost. As in, if a phone comes out in 12 months that you want, buy that also. There's nothing to stop you running two contracts concurrently. If you've seen a better deal from another network, post it, just because it's an 18 month deal doesn't make it bad.
Also, show me a network that does unlimited data that doesn't have a fair usage policy? Hell, every ISP has one, why wouldn't a phone network who has to send data over a massive infrastructure of cell towers
Btw, im not an Orange fan, im a Tmobile fan, no bias here.
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sounds like bias to me.
At least T Mobile offer 1GB fair use. 500MB is way too limited.
Also with T's web n walk plus, you get free GLOBAL T Mobile hotspot access.
Also T have a brilliant HSDPA network. How extensive is Oranges?
Also with orange - you seen that cost to non orange mobiles outside of your air time?
As for contract length.. let me put it this way..
12 months ago I bought a brand new HTC Touch.
Slightly OT, but does the Orange unlimited internet allow for using the phone as a modem? Is it unlimited internet or unlimited data?
Likewise does it allow for VOIP?
I can see how Opera will quickly eat into the data instead of pocket IE and its cut down pages
Back on topic, Orange allow a downgrade to the next lower tariff after 9(?) months -so a bit more saving. Not sure if this impacts on the cashback offer though
PaulusUK said:
Slightly OT, but does the Orange unlimited internet allow for using the phone as a modem? Is it unlimited internet or unlimited data?
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The unlimited package on orange does not allow tethering or VOIP...
Have done quite a bit of VOIP over 3G with Skype using an Orange 250mb data plan with my old Tytn 2 and never got charged for it, when I check my usage all it shows is I used a few megs, done that for months
Not tried tethering though as I have no need to.
They may say we don't allow you to do it but doesn't mean they banned it
Sorry, whats tethering?
ljames28 said:
You pay more though, the original deal i quote was £455, to get a 'free' Xbox Arcade it would cost £720. That's £265 more for a console thats worth £150 - So you're wasting £115! Hardly free ey?
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Ok for 6 months extra you get a FREE projector and £80 or pay £30 and get £20 and a free projector!
http://www.beepy.co.uk/mobile-phone...hin-35-24-month-home-cinema-gaming-projector/
Or get a FREE iPod so .... yeh it is free when you compare it with your deal
Recieved my orange UK diamond!!
Wooo!
I've got my diamond today through the m2yd and quidco cashback offer.
There's no discernable customisation to the interface and a very discreet orange badge on the rear cover.
Here are some unboxing pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/fareedoon/20080711Diamond
Also to add, it is sim-locked.
Got mine too!
Don't forget, first thing to do is look right at the bottom of the box and get the screen protector, and fit this before doing anything else
PaulusUK said:
Got mine too!
Don't forget, first thing to do is look right at the bottom of the box and get the screen protector, and fit this before doing anything else
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thanks, just noticed it!
**UK ONLY**
THIS IS FOR USERS WHO PURCHASED A "SIM-ONLY" Package.
Hello, I'm not sure if this is allowed here. If not please can it be moved to the right location.
Short story...
I am currently on contract with 3 UK that gives me 100 minutes, 5000 texts and 500MB internet. I am paying £15.32 per month.
I rarely use minutes and don't use anywhere near 5000 texts. So I was thinking how many users are like me, that doesn't really use most of the allowance given to us, but pay for the allowances that we don't actually use.
I have created this short survey that I would like you all to fill out. Please just the UK only!
Here is the survey:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFROQ1ozcklQM2hvUVhNczRJRVZqRGc6MQ
And please spread this round!
I had decided that this would be only for "Sim-Only" users as going on contract with a phone will mess wit the results as you are paying for the phone too.
I'm on contract so i won't fill out the form, but i don't think £15.00 a month is bad at all.
I would like to see carriers introduce data only tariffs though, much like i have with Be* for my internet. For that tariff you would get a larger data allowance but no free calls or texts. Can't see them going for it though.
Anyway, good luck with your survey! Let us know your results when you're done?
DirkGently1 said:
I'm on contract so i won't fill out the form, but i don't think £15.00 a month is bad at all.
I would like to see carriers introduce data only tariffs though, much like i have with Be* for my internet. For that tariff you would get a larger data allowance but no free calls or texts. Can't see them going for it though.
Anyway, good luck with your survey! Let us know your results when you're done?
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I believe 3 do a data only tariff.
£15 a month IMO is a bit much for what I use. I just want the option to reduce my allowance a save a few £. I'm sure a lot of users would also appreciate this.
I also had an idea which led me to create this survey. See picture.
You get a fixed amount of minutes and you can change how many texts or data you want. You can sacrifice some texts for some more data allowance. You can adjust on a monthly basis. I have set the price to compete with the 3 network as they have the cheapest tariffs with mobile data included.
I was thinking of opening a Mobile Virtual Network Operator like GifGaf and Tesco.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UK_MVNO#United_Kingdom
But I have no experience in any of them sectors and I'm not a business person. I just have an idea.
Perhaps I should pass my idea with the major networks? But will be hard to contact.
I'd post results if i get any XD
You've got me thinking now. I'm paying £30 a month for what amounts to 500MB of data. I don't really call or text at all. (Forever alone.jpg)
And you think you're overpaying!
DirkGently1 said:
You've got me thinking now. I'm paying £30 a month for what amounts to 500MB of data. I don't really call or text at all. (Forever alone.jpg)
And you think you're overpaying!
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Well you are paying for a phone too
I'm going to move to Berlin to study German for 9 months, naturallly i have lots of doubts, i'd really appreciate your help:
1. The monthly fee for the housing (offered by the German course) is 800 $, which is little steep for me, a friend told me you can rent an apartment for 400 $ a month, is this true? Where should i look?
2. Which internet provider can you recommend? I have only read about Alice and "1 and 1" (which supposedly sucks) , i use a lot a bandwidth a month, i download and stream movies, download music, use dropbox with my friends , id say i use about 40-50 gb a month, i dont want to be put in a black list, or have my intern
Anyone?
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Doesn't look like it. I guess you've tried google?
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If it helps, Vodafone are good in the UK, However I think tmobile are slightly cheaper
I'm from germany and my provider fyve ( its a prepaid card and i pay 10 euro for an internet flat with 500 mb highspeed internet, the price per minute and per sms is 9 cent) it uses the vodafone network its great and i've got nearly everywhere 3g or hsdpa but i think t mobile is as good as vodafone
But never take o2 its so bad
I keep reading O2 is crap, so its out my list already
I cannot post links jet but google smartmobil
Look at this , there you have 100 hundred minutes free 100 sms free and you got an internet flat for 10 euros and it uses the vodafone network and you can cancel it whenever you want
PortoBraso said:
I cannot post links jet but google smartmobil
Look at this , there you have 100 hundred minutes free 100 sms free and you got an internet flat for 10 euros and it uses the vodafone network and you can cancel it whenever you want
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I have read about this small companies who use big companies' servers like vodafone, are they reliable I don't feel too comfortable /sure
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I think best internet you'll get @ Telekom / uniteymedia
Chad_Petree said:
I have read about this small companies who use big companies' servers like vodafone, are they reliable I don't feel too comfortable /sure
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I use this too and its perfect you don't have to feel uncomfortable ...
But you can also look here www.Sparhandy.de
There are good plans with cheap smartphones
whach out for skinheads, i heard berlin is the home of them, im serous
PortoBraso said:
I use this too and its perfect you don't have to feel uncomfortable ...
But you can also look here www.Sparhandy.de
There are good plans with cheap smartphones
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I only need the plan, i already have a phone, right now i pretty much settled on vodafone it's the adsl provider i'm still not sure about , by the way another doubts have surfaced
1. Vodafone offers a "free" landline but what is it exactly ? they give you a "free" landline and you can have unlimited calls to it? or you can call have unlimited calls to vodafone landlines?
2. What's this so called "Your Online Advantage 24 x 5 € credit"
3. Students discount? With this they'll chop 10 euros a month from the price? , what do i need in order to get this?
3. 30 euros for an installation fee? what? 30 euros just for giving me a sim card?
Minimum contract (without a phone) 24 months? Damn companies LOVE contracts, dont they?
AndroidStyle said:
whach out for skinheads, i heard berlin is the home of them, im serous
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I'm not too worried, as far as i know skinheads are NOT racists, also i'm white, not asian, i dont know if they're xenofobic though, also is just an small percentage of the population
Give me the link and i explain it to you
And yes there is a student reduction i think you have to show them on which university you study
And what do you think of germany ?! here are as much skinheads as in the us ...
Don't mention the war.
PortoBraso said:
Give me the link and i explain it to you
And yes there is a student reduction i think you have to show them on which university you study
And what do you think of germany ?! here are as much skinheads as in the us ...
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Check out super flat internet plus
http://shop.vodafone.de/Shop/tarife/vertrag/superflat-internet-tarife/
and
http://shop.vodafone.de/Shop/picknm...setDisplayProposition=false&_requestid=115985
I don't pay that much attention to the reports about racism, xenofobia, those things happen in almost every country!
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Don't mention the war.
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I laughed quite a bit
Chad_Petree said:
Check out super flat internet plus
http://shop.vodafone.de/Shop/tarife/vertrag/superflat-internet-tarife/
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So the super flat internet plus includes a flatrate TO every german landline network
Also a flatrate to the german vodafone network
Then it has a internet flatrate with 500 mb highspeed internet with maximum 7.2 mbits
Then you got 3000 free sms ( its called sms flatrate but at vodafone its just 3000 free sms you can see it if you go to details )
And you are allowed to do tethering and VoiP ( thats quite nice i dont know an other plan which allows VoiP)
If you are a new customer at vodafone you get a flat in another german mobil network for free
If you buy this plan online they give you every month 5 euro so as a consequence of that its 5 euro cheaper every month so its 44,95 every month
Then you can choose the student reduction but you have to look if it worths it.
So i hope i helped you
The other link guides me to the main website of vodafone so there is no plan i can explain to you
PortoBraso said:
So the super flat internet plus includes a flatrate TO every german landline network
Also a flatrate to the german vodafone network
Then it has a internet flatrate with 500 mb highspeed internet with maximum 7.2 mbits
Then you got 3000 free sms ( its called sms flatrate but at vodafone its just 3000 free sms you can see it if you go to details )
And you are allowed to do tethering and VoiP ( thats quite nice i dont know an other plan which allows VoiP)
If you are a new customer at vodafone you get a flat in another german mobil network for free
If you buy this plan online they give you every month 5 euro so as a consequence of that its 5 euro cheaper every month so its 44,95 every month
Then you can choose the student reduction but you have to look if it worths it.
So i hope i helped you
The other link guides me to the main website of vodafone so there is no plan i can explain to you
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Thanks for taking the time!
3000 SMS is just enough for me, trust me , i sue whatsapp A LOT, tethering is kinda useless with just 500 mb , they should offer 2 gbs for that price, after 500 mb you only get "low" speeds which they don't specify, maybe 1 mbps
What do you mean i have to see if the students reduction is worth it? You think they might chop off some of the features of the plan?
Hey there...I'm from Germany too and HAVE to write something here in my opinion
First of all...the housings in towns with students living in it are much more expensive than others.
For example 50qm in my hometown costs about 300€ including the costs for electricity and radiation.
In a Studentcity it can be up to 800€...that's sad but true
As provider for Internet and Communication I prefer Unitiymedia 32Mbit (about 20€ per month)
My Mobile Provider is O2 for more about 10 years now (O2 Blue 100) Costs are about 20€ but I now that they have special prices for students
And by the way...I'm glad to see that there are some people out there who know that real Skinheads have nothing to do with the dumb,brown scum that crawls through our streets listening to Tekknomusic
crisis1977 said:
Hey there...I'm from Germany too and HAVE to write something here in my opinion
First of all...the housings in towns with students living in it are much more expensive than others.
For example 50qm in my hometown costs about 300€ including the costs for electricity and radiation.
In a Studentcity it can be up to 800€...that's sad but true
As provider for Internet and Communication I prefer Unitiymedia 32Mbit (about 20€ per month)
My Mobile Provider is O2 for more about 10 years now (O2 Blue 100) Costs are about 20€ but I now that they have special prices for students
And by the way...I'm glad to see that there are some people out there who know that real Skinheads have nothing to do with the dumb,brown scum that crawls through our streets listening to Tekknomusic
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Costs for radiation?
I have 2 choices for the German course:
DID Deutsch: Institut Berlin
Novalisstr. 12
Berlin, BE 10115
DE
ESL PROLOG - BERLIN
Hauptstraße 23/24
Berlin, BE D-10827
DE
I just checked Wikipedia and Berlin is quite small , only 891,85 km² so arriving late to the course shouldnt be a concern, can u recommend some districts? i have been told not to go to Tempelhof and Neukölln since people get robbed there, is that true?
Chad_Petree said:
Thanks for taking the time!
3000 SMS is just enough for me, trust me , i sue whatsapp A LOT, tethering is kinda useless with just 500 mb , they should offer 2 gbs for that price, after 500 mb you only get "low" speeds which they don't specify, maybe 1 mbps
What do you mean i have to see if the students reduction is worth it? You think they might chop off some of the features of the plan?
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No problem
yes vodafone is very expensive and i think the student reduction worths so try it but take a look at www.mobilcom-debitel.de or like i said www.sparhandy.de them are really cheaper
But you have to pay attention you said that you are in germany just for 9 months so the most plans have a minimum term of 24 months so look at this
If you have questions to another plan just give me the link i translate or explain it to you
Here is the text of the email I just sent to Dan Hesse. The savings you supposedly get from the Framily plan are a joke.
I recently jumped on the Framily plan bandwagon for my 6 lines of service to take advantage of the savings that are advertised all over Sprint.com. I actually started to convince my friends and relatives that they should move to Sprint for this fantastic deal.
Then when I inquired about adding a new line to the Framily plan and found out that there are no discounts on equipment I slammed on the brakes and reversed my feelings. Then I additionally found out that my existing lines would no longer be eligible for discounted equipment. Now I am feeling really deceived.
So the end result of the Framily plan hoax is that the monthly savings you supposedly get are the direct result of losing the discount on new line/renewal equipment. I am so angry about this that I will most certainly move back to the plan I was on previously and since 5 of my 6 lines all expire in the next 6 months I will probably take them elsewhere.
To be the number three carrier and do this to your devoted customers and expect them to help you get new customers shocks and amazes me.
I brought my family's lines to Sprint because they were the best deal for me. I can say that you are now following along the path of money sucking that your competitors have been on for years.
I hope that you get many more of these letters as I will be spreading the word to have everyone I can to contact you about this horrible plan.
I to hate losing discounts on equipment, but Sprint has to make money somewhere. Lower monthly rates (yes, 25 a month for unlimited talk/text 1GB of data is LOW) usually means a higher cost somewhere.
I have an unlimited everything plan for 45 a month on the Framily plan, phone costs 25 a month, but heck, I'll take it! Better than anything Big Red or TMob can do.
I will direct your attention to the fine print if you want to be even more upset, particularly the section about data and video streaming.
I'm on mobile, but if memory serves, it basically says that framily plans get bumped down in case of localized high data demand + video streaming is limited to the point of being useless to ease network congestion.
Hesse: data will remain unlimited. Yeah, OK guy.
No discounts are applied until you hit 7 users on the plan then you get the $25.00 a month, you can forget about device discounts too. If you want unlimited data add another $20.00 a month which brings the plan higher then what I am paying now for 5 phones. I will keep my family plan I have now, well actual 2 family plans, better deal and new phone every 2 years with discounts and savings...
Sezmar said:
No discounts are applied until you hit 7 users on the plan then you get the $25.00 a month, you can forget about device discounts too. If you want unlimited data add another $20.00 a month which brings the plan higher then what I am paying now for 5 phones. I will keep my family plan I have now, well actual 2 family plans, better deal and new phone every 2 years with discounts and savings...
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Just checked my bill, I have 3 lines, and all of them are getting $10 off, making them $45 each. You get more off for each line until they're down to $25 each, IIRC.
First of all, for clarification purposes I think it's appropriate to call them "device subsidies" rather than "discounts".
Next, I am not sure what the OP's "big surprise" here is. The Framily plan is a no-contract engagement. As such there are no device subsides provided under it. This isn't any different than any of the other large carriers' no-contract offerings.
clshores said:
Here is the text of the email I just sent to Dan Hesse. The savings you supposedly get from the Framily plan are a joke.
I recently jumped on the Framily plan bandwagon for my 6 lines of service to take advantage of the savings that are advertised all over Sprint.com. I actually started to convince my friends and relatives that they should move to Sprint for this fantastic deal.
Then when I inquired about adding a new line to the Framily plan and found out that there are no discounts on equipment I slammed on the brakes and reversed my feelings. Then I additionally found out that my existing lines would no longer be eligible for discounted equipment. Now I am feeling really deceived.
So the end result of the Framily plan hoax is that the monthly savings you supposedly get are the direct result of losing the discount on new line/renewal equipment. I am so angry about this that I will most certainly move back to the plan I was on previously and since 5 of my 6 lines all expire in the next 6 months I will probably take them elsewhere.
To be the number three carrier and do this to your devoted customers and expect them to help you get new customers shocks and amazes me.
I brought my family's lines to Sprint because they were the best deal for me. I can say that you are now following along the path of money sucking that your competitors have been on for years.
I hope that you get many more of these letters as I will be spreading the word to have everyone I can to contact you about this horrible plan.
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I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
cruise350 said:
I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
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No argument on most of the points. My biggest complaint is that they don't come out and tell you up front that this is the way it works. It all just seems a little deceiving to me. I will get my first Framily bill soon and I will see what my actual monthly change is and then I will pass judgement on what/if the savings based on a traditional plan will be.
Glad to read these issues. I've got 5 family phones still on my Sprint Everything Data Family 1500 and it sounds like I will just stay. I tell everyone that Sprint in OKC is a great wifi use and limited data with partial phone calling. Basically it sucks but with 5 phones my bill is still less than most of the 2-3 smartphone plans of other carriers.
It at least helps when I can't download or even make a call from my house.
@jtsv. I have the same plan so I think I will stay on it as well. I pay $190 for 4 lines unlimited everything.
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cruise350 said:
I got to tell you, you are whining about nothing. I don't have this plan, but why would you expect device subsidies on a price that low. It obviously isn't a plan for some one that wants a new phone every two years and do the math. You could pay Sprint $30 more a month for your supposed phone upgrade discount which amounts to $720 over 2 years plus the $199 you paid for your discounted phone totaling $919 for you discounted phone. Or pay cash for your phone $600 and save $319 over the same 2 year period. Now, where was your discount? Oh wait there is more, no contract, cheap monthly bill, leave when you want. What are you complaining about.
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Yeah cruise is right on this one. I was thinking of doing the Framily Plan also but I get a 25% discount on my monthly bill from work. I called up Sprint and inquired extensively about this plan and even asked about my discount and was told that it would apply to the unlimited data which would bring it down from $20 to $15. I was also told that if I move a line into the plan and it wasn't eligible for upgrade that it would cost me an extra $15 a month for 12 months or until the upgrade was available. There are a lot of hidden things in that plan but that's why it's always best to call and get info on it before you make a decision. They aren't going to come out and tell you anything unless you ask. They are hoping more people just switch to the plan without asking about the intricacies of it.
jtsv said:
Glad to read these issues. I've got 5 family phones still on my Sprint Everything Data Family 1500 and it sounds like I will just stay. I tell everyone that Sprint in OKC is a great wifi use and limited data with partial phone calling. Basically it sucks but with 5 phones my bill is still less than most of the 2-3 smartphone plans of other carriers.
It at least helps when i can't download or even make a call from my house.
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When I hit 6 lines I could no longer use the Family 1500 plan. I had to go to the My Everything plan. Like I said I will have to analyse the bill and see if I should switch back.
travisw0204 said:
Yeah cruise is right on this one. I was thinking of doing the Framily Plan also but I get a 25% discount on my monthly bill from work. I called up Sprint and inquired extensively about this plan and even asked about my discount and was told that it would apply to the unlimited data which would bring it down from $20 to $15. I was also told that if I move a line into the plan and it wasn't eligible for upgrade that it would cost me an extra $15 a month for 12 months or until the upgrade was available. There are a lot of hidden things in that plan but that's why it's always best to call and get info on it before you make a decision. They aren't going to come out and tell you anything unless you ask. They are hoping more people just switch to the plan without asking about the intricacies of it.
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They are currently waiving the $15 fee.
Woah, thanks for the info. I was thinking about switching to the framily plan but hadn't looked into it yet. Now I know it's not for me. It may be a good choice for people who don't mind keeping phones for a long time though.
With sprint, read the fine print
So it's a trade off between equipment fees and the monthly bill?
Smashbro29 said:
So it's a trade off between equipment fees and the monthly bill?
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Essentially. But with the added feature of not being under contract which means you can jump ship at any time unless you still have time left on your existing contract then you will be contract free from that point forward.
I've been curious I kind of understand how their new plan is working but I have a question has anyone seen any fine print on the new plans say in 12months u upgrade but your existing phone shows signs of being rooted or knox is tripped? Just wondering if theres anything in there about it.
MrWicked1 said:
I've been curious I kind of understand how their new plan is working but I have a question has anyone seen any fine print on the new plans say in 12months u upgrade but your existing phone shows signs of being rooted or knox is tripped? Just wondering if theres anything in there about it.
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There is no fine print in regards to that. The early upgrade portion is saying that 12 months in, with unlimited data, they will let you upgrade at no charge.
You don't turn your phone back in or anything like that.
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lawmangrant said:
There is no fine print in regards to that. The early upgrade portion is saying that 12 months in, with unlimited data, they will let you upgrade at no charge.
You don't turn your phone back in or anything like that.
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Ah ok thanks that's what i was wondering I was assuming you have to turn your phone in.