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Why carriers aren't offering early upgrade price for HD7?

So I was all pumped about getting an HD 7 and thought since WP 7is brand new to market, they would be opening up upgrade pricing to anyone. But, have come to find out, that's not happening. They can do it with iPhone releases and its just OS updates as WP 7 is. Someone tell me I'm not going to have to pay full price, especially since I got my HD 2 about 8-9 mths ago and was the only reason I switched to T-mobile.
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Anyone?.....

I called Tmobile and they said they dont have any info until later this week. Cant wait! I hate my Samsung Vibrant

the hd7 is on O2 not t-mobile, this could be one reason they wont offer an upgrade to it.
You can buy it on pay as you go for £380 (really good price) or do what i did and sell your phone and use the cash to buy out the contract then get a new one (my dad bought my desire and I paid off my contract and still had some cash left to buy my wife some jeans and shoes).

kentrey said:
I called Tmobile and they said they dont have any info until later this week. Cant wait! I hate my Samsung Vibrant
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Yeah, I called them too and they seemed pretty firm on not budging on allowing any kind of early upgrade for me (said to wait 6 mths and I started service with them in Mar. getting my HD2) at release time. They said I'll just have to wait until it comes out and could see what happens with them selling it for a lower\non-contract price.
lumpaywk said:
the hd7 is on O2 not t-mobile, this could be one reason they wont offer an upgrade to it.
You can buy it on pay as you go for £380 (really good price) or do what i did and sell your phone and use the cash to buy out the contract then get a new one (my dad bought my desire and I paid off my contract and still had some cash left to buy my wife some jeans and shoes).
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It's on Tmobile here in the USA exclusively. I thought about selling my HD2, but I really want to keep that phone forever. I've sold every other one (sometimes not needing to) and everyone now and then I regret it. So, I promised I would never give up the HD2. It was the beginning of an era and the best thing winmo ever ran on.

Oh oops my bad i keep forgetting that there is a world outside of this tiny island lol

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Oh oops my bad i keep forgetting that there is a world outside of this tiny island lol
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LOL! No, I totally understand and maybe $500 or so will be worth it. It's just the uncertainty of WP7 (although I'm sure I'll love it) missing some of the things I've become accustomed to.

The only time Tmo budges on upgrades is if a customer has been with em for more then 2 years or/and is over 14 months since their last upgrade and with that said all that depends on the rep/sup you talk too...only reason is tmo is coming out with so many new phones between now and Q2 due to the new hspa+ network....and if they continue to hand out early upgrades each time a new phone comes out we are losing a lot of money...also with it being around Christmas all tenure customers are calling in wanting full discounts....and when customers are wanting a full discount on a $550 phone before thier commitment time that difference comes out of tmo pocket....Tmo sells the phones not make em...
Remember you're not dealing with ATT or apple here so u cant really compare it to the iphone release....maybe u can call HTC and see if they'll switch it out for you lol im just saying...You made a choice of signing a 2 year contract 8-9 months ago to get a discount on the HD2....Tmo is out to make thier customers happy but everytime a new phone comes out we cant continue to hand out cause YOU feel its the right thing to do since u switch from a diff provider...They still have to run a company
And just so you know the only reason ATT offered the upgrade early for the iPhone 4 is because June 1st they increased their ETF to $375 so they were getting thier customers under this new contract policy by giving out early upgrades when the Iphone 4 released on July 27th
Sooo with all that said good Luck on getting that full discount...u might talk to the right rep and they will work it out for u

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The only time Tmo budges on upgrades is if a customer has been with em for more then 2 years or/and is over 14 months since their last upgrade and with that said all that depends on the rep/sup you talk too...only reason is tmo is coming out with so many new phones between now and Q2 due to the new hspa+ network....and if they continue to hand out early upgrades each time a new phone comes out we are losing a lot of money...also with it being around Christmas all tenure customers are calling in wanting full discounts....and when customers are wanting a full discount on a $550 phone before thier commitment time that difference comes out of tmo pocket....Tmo sells the phones not make em...
Remember you're not dealing with ATT or apple here so u cant really compare it to the iphone release....maybe u can call HTC and see if they'll switch it out for you lol im just saying...You made a choice of signing a 2 year contract 8-9 months ago to get a discount on the HD2....Tmo is out to make thier customers happy but everytime a new phone comes out we cant continue to hand out cause YOU feel its the right thing to do since u switch from a diff provider...They still have to run a company
And just so you know the only reason ATT offered the upgrade early for the iPhone 4 is because June 1st they increased their ETF to $375 so they were getting thier customers under this new contract policy by giving out early upgrades when the Iphone 4 released on July 27th
Sooo with all that said good Luck on getting that full discount...u might talk to the right rep and they will work it out for u
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Man, you must work for them for sure Especially with the "we" references. lol and JK. But, I understand your point and I'm sure tmob makes that difference up in the price I pay for service Or else they would never offer or upgrade people early. And besides that, I don't even care if they update my contract and extend 2 yrs from the day they give me the discount. So, increasing my contract every time I do that would benefit them, I would imagine? And I don't want to change phones every time one comes out. ONLY a great one from HTC, which at most may be every year, as slow as we get things here in the US. lol. Didn't know the stuff about ATT and the iPhone upgrade, so thanks for that piece of knowledge. All I'm saying is, I can disconnect a line and add a line at Wal-Mart, for cheaper (don't really care what phone number I have), so Tmob might as well put that money in their pocket and save the hassle. I have 3 lines (all ready to buy a new phone) and still have 2 lines with ATT. So, it's no joke with my service and ATT learned the hard way about not keeping up with device releases as they lost a lot of people for simply not carrying and providing what their customer's asked.

Nexus 6 - still worth it?

Android - I'm coming home! Now to find a phone.
Been looking at the Nexus 6 pretty hard. I don't want LG, and I refuse to pay premium prices for a Haiwei crash-o-matic piece of junk.
Spent some time at Best Buy today fondling a Nexus 6 - love the screen, love the feel, love the speed.
So, nearly a year after it's release, is it still worth it? Thinking about doing another 2 year with AT&T, which would make it $149, or $349 outright through Best Buy.
THoughts?

Plain and simple: Yes
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Its as cool to have as an Indialantic beach!

People are still happy with their Nexus 4's for that matter, so I'd say yes, it's still worth it for the next 2 years. Although personally I despise 2 year contracts.

Most definitely. I have a Galaxy S6 and this thing blows it out of the water, except the camera. Way faster, much more support, better battery life.. Although I figured I'd get more than what I do. I'm keeping my eye out on the upcoming Nexus(es) but I have a feeling I'll stick with this and the S6 for awhile.
BTW I just purchased this about a month ago from Swappa. Couldn't stand being locked down with the S6 anymore.
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Traded my G4 for a nexus and its so much better so YES ! Great screen, speakers and performance !! I will never use a skinned Android phone again !
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Hmmmm... I just looked at the AT&T website - it was there last night, not there this morning.
I hope this doesn't mean they pulled it.
If they did my only hope is that they make the Moto X Pure available, but I am doubtful.

JWhipple said:
Hmmmm... I just looked at the AT&T website - it was there last night, not there this morning.
I hope this doesn't mean they pulled it.
If they did my only hope is that they make the Moto X Pure available, but I am doubtful.
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Get the unlocked version! That way you have options. IMO, over the next 2-5 years, we are going to see major changes in the way cellular, and probably all technology, services are handled. It would suck to be locked in for the next 2 years.
Im on Straight Talk for $50 a month and using AT&T towers in my area w/ 4g LTE. Unlimited everthing Full speed up to 5g and throttled after that. Unless you are grandfathered in on some amazing deal, being locked in always favors the carrier.
BTW, Best Buy has 6 month interest free financing.

byrdcfmma said:
Get the unlocked version! That way you have options. IMO, over the next 2-5 years, we are going to see major changes in the way cellular, and probably all technology, services are handled. It would suck to be locked in for the next 2 years.
Im on Straight Talk for $50 a month and using AT&T towers in my area w/ 4g LTE. Unlimited everthing Full speed up to 5g and throttled after that. Unless you are grandfathered in on some amazing deal, being locked in always favors the carrier.
BTW, Best Buy has 6 month interest free financing.
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I want the unlocked one, but funding is tight... plus so is the wife's purse LOL
She controls the money in the house so I play by her rules - happy wife, happy life!
Regarding the financing, I tried already - because I had a bankruptcy in the past 3 years Best Buy won't give me any credit (even though every other bank in the free world seems to be throwing it at me!)

My wife about cut me when I ordered our Nexus 6's because of the price haha! But now that she has one I doubt she'll let me get her out of the Nexus lineup from here on out. The Nexus community doesn't seem to die out like our devices often do. The hardware really isn't that dated. I admit the camera is a bit lacking on this device. Finding a case can be a challenge if you're a destroyer of phones like myself. But the speed, screen and speakers on this phone are amazing!
Case wise I had to get a unicorn beetle. It has saved my phone twice now.

I contacted AT&T via Facebook - all they could tell me is that it wasn't available right now - which doesn't necessarily mean that they will not have it again, just that it's not available NOW. Go figure...

JWhipple said:
I contacted AT&T via Facebook - all they could tell me is that it wasn't available right now - which doesn't necessarily mean that they will not have it again, just that it's not available NOW. Go figure...
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New Nexus is coming out later on this month or next month. It's made by Huawei. Guess AT&T have just unloaded all their old stock. Amazon and ebay sellers are doing the same.

JWhipple said:
Android - I'm coming home! Now to find a phone.
Been looking at the Nexus 6 pretty hard. I don't want LG, and I refuse to pay premium prices for a Haiwei crash-o-matic piece of junk.
Spent some time at Best Buy today fondling a Nexus 6 - love the screen, love the feel, love the speed.
So, nearly a year after it's release, is it still worth it? Thinking about doing another 2 year with AT&T, which would make it $149, or $349 outright through Best Buy.
THoughts?
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Thank you for your service!!!

Metalman1020468 said:
Thank you for your service!!!
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Semper Fi!

Anyone thinking about upgrading from N6 to the Pixel?

I was pretty impressed with the release notes yesterday. Ive been nothing but happy with my N6 (got it new since it came out), but ive got the new phone itch lol.
Also since im on Project Fi, they were offering the VR gear for free (most likely would not have bought it on my own, just my personal opinion). So ive got my order in for an XL. We shall see how that goes.

imo I think it is really pricy. Cant justify myself spending so much for a pixel. beside that I think my n6 and n5 is still usable at least till the next pixel release.

No Pixel for me. Not going to pay that kind of money for a phone. I got my N6 just a year ago and it is still working perfect. If i buy a new phone then I will spent no more then 400 euro on it.

tyrtok said:
imo I think it is really pricy. Cant justify myself spending so much for a pixel. beside that I think my n6 and n5 is still usable at least till the next pixel release.
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TMG1961 said:
No Pixel for me. Not going to pay that kind of money for a phone. I got my N6 just a year ago and it is still working perfect. If i buy a new phone then I will spent no more then 400 euro on it.
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I agree, I was a bit surprised at the pricing.
Although, the days of renewing your contract and getting a $200 smart phone are gone. I think every phone company (around me anyways - ATT, VZ, Sprint, Tmobile, ect) are all charging full retail for phones now ($650+)
Its not as bad of a hit having it over 24 month payments and them not charging interest on it.

I'm getting it. Most of the people on here too are. No matter what they say. They will be craving it by xmas.

I preordered a 128GB Pixel XL for $921 to get the free VR headset deal, but I decided to cancel my order a few hours later. I'll wait for some reviews and root confirmation before I drop that kind of dough on something I'll be bored with in a year or less. Hopefully there will be a black Friday sale next month or some holiday deals at the end of the year.
The Pixel looks like a really really nice phone, but being a full time student with no job puts a big crunch on my budget for toys.

Face_Plant said:
I preordered a 128GB Pixel XL for $921 to get the free VR headset deal, but I decided to cancel my order a few hours later. I'll wait for some reviews and root confirmation before I drop that kind of dough on something I'll be bored with in a year or less. Hopefully there will be a black Friday sale next month or some holiday deals at the end of the year.
The Pixel looks like a really really nice phone, but being a full time student with no job puts a big crunch on my budget for toys.
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This just sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders and your parents taught you some responsibility/how to prioritize lol :good:. Something I seem to see/hear less and less of with younger generations.

worst case scenario i might just pick up a used 6p or a xiaomi flagship at half the price

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I'm getting it. Most of the people on here too are. No matter what they say. They will be craving it by xmas.
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£400/$500, yes. Current prices, absolutely not. Where do you get "Most of the people on here too are" from? Based on the number of people who say "Wow, that's a very reasonable price" or what?

stupidchicken03 said:
I agree, I was a bit surprised at the pricing.
Although, the days of renewing your contract and getting a $200 smart phone are gone. I think every phone company (around me anyways - ATT, VZ, Sprint, Tmobile, ect) are all charging full retail for phones now ($650+)
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Yeah, however I'm on Verizon and if you've been with them before they removed the contract pricing, you are still allowed to upgrade at contract price for around $200-$300

aroy97 said:
Yeah, however I'm on Verizon and if you've been with them before they removed the contract pricing, you are still allowed to upgrade at contract price for around $200-$300
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Hmm did not know that.
I had them for 10+ years but got tired of paying soooo much for my bill (grandfathered unlim data). When Project Fi was announced, I hopped on. Kept both VZ and Fi for 2-3 months to compared reception in the areas I spent most my time. Fi held up just fine and is LESS THAN HALF of what I was paying big red (just dont get unlim data).
Wonder if they will keep that trend going.

stupidchicken03 said:
Hmm did not know that.
I had them for 10+ years but got tired of paying soooo much for my bill (grandfathered unlim data). When Project Fi was announced, I hopped on. Kept both VZ and Fi for 2-3 months to compared reception in the areas I spent most my time. Fi held up just fine and is LESS THAN HALF of what I was paying big red (just dont get unlim data).
Wonder if they will keep that trend going.
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I was tempted to switch to Fi before, but I always had the idea in the back of my mind that someday I might grow tired of Nexus or the new iteration won't be as good (Pixel).
Anyways, if you still have a line on VZW, you can check it out, otherwise you can try to woo a representative into giving you the contract deal

I have no idea what makes anyone believe most people on here will buy the pixel. Literally 95% of the posters have an extremely negative opinion of the device on the threads out there. I would rather buy an iphone than a pixel at those prices. Too many other decent options to consider.

stupidchicken03 said:
This just sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders and your parents taught you some responsibility/how to prioritize lol :good:. Something I seem to see/hear less and less of with younger generations.
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Well it's mostly because I have more expensive hobbies (cars). I just finished a big turbo project and I need that money in case something goes terribly wrong. It shouldn't, but **** happens... Having a running car is more important than having the latest gadget.

Face_Plant said:
Well it's mostly because I have more expensive hobbies (cars). I just finished a big turbo project and I need that money in case something goes terribly wrong. It shouldn't, but **** happens... Having a running car is more important than having the latest gadget.
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Kinda sounds like me lolol.
What make/model? Build?
Ive been in the subaru game for almost the last 10 years. 02 wrx with a 2.5 swap. Currently an 05 STi built with big turbo

stupidchicken03 said:
Kinda sounds like me lolol.
What make/model? Build?
Ive been in the subaru game for almost the last 10 years. 02 wrx with a 2.5 swap. Currently an 05 STi built with big turbo
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I'll send you a PM to avoid cluttering this thread.

I'm a guy who waits a year to buy last years top tier.. Works out better for me.. Waiting on all you 6p sellers on swappa to drop it down a bit haha
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My N6 is way better than that overpriced phones. So no thank you. I'll wait few more months until prices go down and buy an op3 or even a axon 7. Or go adventurous and buy Umi plus. Which is easy sexier looking phone!
So N6 was my last Google phone ever.

khanam said:
I would rather buy an iphone than a pixel at those prices.
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Why exactly? I mean besides because your pissed at Google, because of I don't know what?
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My N6 is way better than that overpriced phones. So no thank you. I'll wait few more months until prices go down and buy an op3 or even a axon 7. Or go adventurous and buy Umi plus. Which is easy sexier looking phone!
So N6 was my last Google phone ever.
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The N6 was equally ridiculously overpriced in 2014, so I laughed at the idea of buying it. Besides my Note 3 was only one year old, just reached the age I cared less if the knox flag is 0x1 or not. Also a SD805 upgrade over a SD800 is not an upgrade. And the Note 3 had a better camera.
And a year later I changed my mind.

dahawthorne said:
£400/$500, yes. Current prices, absolutely not. Where do you get "Most of the people on here too are" from? Based on the number of people who say "Wow, that's a very reasonable price" or what?
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The price is high, but the constituency here are tech heads. People will groan and grumble, but eventually get it. Provided their is good community support.
When a phone like our N6 starts to lose community support for being old, it's not very gratifying to own.
The only thing that would possibly stop me, if the bootloader was locked down tight with no option to root.
UPDATE: Ok, I did check the price. Pixel XL with 128g is probably about 900+ with tax delivered. Yea, that might push me out.

Is this phone still worth buying in Feb/March?

my old galaxy S3 stopped working, so I am thinking about getting this phone this month or early next month. Should I buy the 3t, or wait for the 4(5)? Thanks in advance.

Ulti2x said:
my old galaxy S3 stopped working, so I am thinking about getting this phone this month or early next month. Should I buy the 3t, or wait for the 4(5)? Thanks in advance.
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Based on your requirement...3T is definitely a good phone and you can even sell and buy a 4/5 once it releases

Of course it is. Is the best smartphone right now.

had an lg g3 that stopped recognising the sim card. replacing the sim/sd card reader may not fix it. I dont want to waste money. wainting for enough people to vote in order to make a decision. dont mind me

i just bought my op3t coming from a nexus 6p

If you desperately needs a new phone...get the 3/T either one is a great option.
If you can wait, wait. All the new phones are coming out, including OnePlus.

Mine just got delivered today. On a whim, I decided to sell my Nexus 6P last Friday and ordered a 128gb 3T on Saturday. The 6P was a good phone, but 1.5 years old and due to be orphaned by Google in Sept. I needed to sell soon while the 6P still had some resale value, and the 3T beats the Pixel specs in all the ways that matter to me, so that's what brought me over. The 3T is one of the most powerful phones currently on the market (if not THE most powerful phone). They shaved a few corners (speakers and screen resolution come to mind, but screen is still very good), but the processor+ram are an awesome combo. The 3T isn't certified for Google Daydream so if that's important to you take it into consideration. Since your S3 is busted I assume you have a spare that will tide you over? If so, then maybe wait it out a couple of months. If not (or if the spare is garbage) then the 3T is a great phone with superior specs.

I believe that it completely makes sense to buy this phone.
Firstly, it has only been 4 months since this phone was released. And 4 months is the perfect time to evaluate how good the phone is, while it's still considered a newly released phone.
Besides, I don't think there'll be any great change in tech between the 3t and 4/5. It'll just be a slightly better version of the 3t, with slightly faster processor, slightly higher RAM (maybe).
Because of the very low prices, OnePlus isn't very great with their R/D. All their previous phones reflect that. They have always picked a safe design and put good hardware in it.
I think that once phones like iPhone 8 are released, the innovations they come up with become a thing. Like wireless charging?, Fingerprint scanner embedded in three screen?.
Till then, I think the 3t will be a great phone without anything lacking in it.
Given you'll have to wait for the 4/5, and also, you don't know how it'll turn out to be, my suggestion would be to go for the 3t.

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my old galaxy S3 stopped working, so I am thinking about getting this phone this month or early next month. Should I buy the 3t, or wait for the 4(5)? Thanks in advance.
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Did you decide yet, mate?

Ulti2x said:
my old galaxy S3 stopped working, so I am thinking about getting this phone this month or early next month. Should I buy the 3t, or wait for the 4(5)? Thanks in advance.
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The reason is that it's a proven phone. Good spec, good battery life, god design and awesome charge capacity. You can always wait because there will always be better phones coming but not all phones will be value for money like 3t. Just got it 3 days back.

For y pay for a OnePlus 3 or 3T and the spec you get... I really don't understand why anyone would not buy one. TBH I don't understand why anyone would pay the premium for a 3T when you can pick-up a 3 for less and the spec difference is so minimal. But that's just my opinion

https://swappa.com/buy/oneplus-3-unlocked
~$350 mint
https://swappa.com/buy/oneplus-3t-unlocked
~$400 mint
OnePlus.net
$439 new
People do strange things so it's nice not to have to wonder.

4everxda said:
Did you decide yet, mate?
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Yeah, I am most likely to order it this week , thanks for all your guys' replies!! Any rumors on when the next oneplus phone wold probably come out? The previous phone release dates are pretty inconsistent.

Ulti2x said:
Yeah, I am most likely to order it this week , thanks for all your guys' replies!! Any rumors on when the next oneplus phone wold probably come out? The previous phone release dates are pretty inconsistent.
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One can only speculate
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/oneplus-4-1323943

Ordered mine on Monday. Received on Thursday. Upgraded from Nexus 6 which was my favorite device. Now this is my favorite. It just flies. And I just used my phone for 2 days on a single charge, where my N6 would have died overnight.

Bye Bye OP5

Bye OnePlus 5, you done me well for the past 6 months. Had no issues, but unfortunately I got to say good bye to you as OP decides to release a new model 6 months later! Hello my new OP5T tomorrow

Kahun said:
Bye OnePlus 5, you done me well for the past 6 months. Had no issues, but unfortunately I got to say good bye to you as OP decides to release a new model 6 months later! Hello my new OP5T tomorrow
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thread of the year.
smart move to change phone every 6 months, everybody should do this !

oVeRdOsE. said:
thread of the year.
smart move to change phone every 6 months, everybody should do this !
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I actually didn't really loose any money upgrading surprisingly. O2 wanted £399 to pay off the device to upgrade. Sold the phone on ebay for £399. Paid off the device plan and upgraded to OP5T for free. (Apart from ebay fees) Got a black friday deal so got 50GB data for the price of 10GB so got way more data than I had on the OP5, got 12 month xbox live and I also have a discount from work so I pay £42 a month. So in this scenario I was actually better off upgrading than staying with my OP5 and waiting til the OP6.

Kahun said:
I actually didn't really loose any money upgrading surprisingly. O2 wanted £399 to pay off the device to upgrade. Sold the phone on ebay for £399. Paid off the device plan and upgraded to OP5T for free. (Apart from ebay fees) Got a black friday deal so got 50GB data for the price of 10GB so got way more data than I had on the OP5, got 12 month xbox live and I also have a discount from work so I pay £42 a month. So in this scenario I was actually better off upgrading than staying with my OP5 and waiting til the OP6.
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LoL so you actually paid $50 or $60 to upgrade, not free. But that's still pretty good.

Eric214 said:
LoL so you actually paid $50 or $60 to upgrade, not free. But that's still pretty good.
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Nope, I technically didn't pay anything at all as the free 12 month xbox membership covers the ebay fees The fee was £20 anyway and I got extra 35GB of data.

I usually keep phones for at least a year or two. The only differences in between the OP5 and the OP5T are better camera and higher res screen. I don't take a lot of pictures, and 1080p suits me just fine. I may shoot for the OP6 when it arrives, though.

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