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Can i root my Xperia Z1 or not?

Hi,
This is my first post here. sorry if its a lame one but ive spent weeks of frustration trying to root my fone but its just not happening.
people say i cant but then i find other places that have ways to do it then i spend days trying to do it (actully getting closer and closer) but then the end result is i have no rooted fone! Mainly because i cant complete the processes that there telling me to do. for example unlocking bootloader :/ WHAT A PAIN!!! and its still not done lol.
my phone details are....
Sony xperia Z1
Android Version (Now) 4.3 (Cuz i was told i was able to unlock bootloader on this version (Was i wrong!))
Build number: 14.2.A.0.290 (Same again,Been updated in my process of trying to root i think)
Dont no what else you guys need to help but them things come up often.
Please can someone just relive my stress and tell me if i can root or not, i would be very gratefull. if i can root then could someone also point me in the right direction to how to do this... simply step by step instructions (Pretending i have a new fone and a new laptop, needing to download EVERYTHING from fresh)
Dont see why the process cant be easy like iphones been jailbreaking them for years but there just rubbish fones!
thanks for any help in advance.

l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
Hi,
This is my first post here. sorry if its a lame one but ive spent weeks of frustration trying to root my fone but its just not happening.
people say i cant but then i find other places that have ways to do it then i spend days trying to do it (actully getting closer and closer) but then the end result is i have no rooted fone! Mainly because i cant complete the processes that there telling me to do. for example unlocking bootloader :/ WHAT A PAIN!!! and its still not done lol.
my phone details are....
Sony xperia Z1
Android Version (Now) 4.3 (Cuz i was told i was able to unlock bootloader on this version (Was i wrong!))
Build number: 14.2.A.0.290 (Same again,Been updated in my process of trying to root i think)
Dont no what else you guys need to help but them things come up often.
Please can someone just relive my stress and tell me if i can root or not, i would be very gratefull. if i can root then could someone also point me in the right direction to how to do this... simply step by step instructions (Pretending i have a new fone and a new laptop, needing to download EVERYTHING from fresh)
Dont see why the process cant be easy like iphones been jailbreaking them for years but there just rubbish fones!
thanks for any help in advance.
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Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439328
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572988

TagEHeuer said:
Hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439328
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572988
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Not really but thanks Mate.
This is the first ever guide i followed, got me nowhere though. No programs will root the Phone.

l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
Not really but thanks Mate.
This is the first ever guide i followed, got me nowhere though. No programs will root the Phone.
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You can root your Xperia Z1. I don't see why you're struggling so much. You need to downgrade to .534 to root your phone.
Download this: http://www.flashtool.net/download.php
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49042627&postcount=9
This is how you root...

Yes, you can root your phone with 4.3, without Unlock Bootlader.
Follow the instruction on Page 2, Post #16 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588331&page=2
If I helped click on thanks few times.

Right i appriciate the replies guys! i really do...
I will give them both ago tomorrow, as ive got work in 6 hours lol. But il let you no how i get on.
Do i have to unlock my bootloader for any features on a rooted device? I only really want to root to get rid of those horrid bloatware apps, not really sure what else you can do with a rooted device yet but i want to learn. Last time i rooted a device was in the HTC Desire Z days haha.
Ive spent hours trying to follow Sonys instructions to unlock bootloader but it doesnt work so im hoping i dont need to.

l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
Do i have to unlock my bootloader for any features on a rooted device?
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No. You don't have to. Unlock Bootlader is needed only to flash Custom Roms with Custom Kernels. With Locked Bootlader you still can flash Custom Roms with Stock kernels and get Root.
l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
I only really want to root to get rid of those horrid bloatware apps, not really sure what else you can do with a rooted device yet but i want to learn. Last time i rooted a device was in the HTC Desire Z days haha.
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If the bloatware on your phone is the main reason then you can flash via Flastool a Unbranded FTF Android 4.3 like I did, clean and smooth.
l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
Ive spent hours trying to follow Sonys instructions to unlock bootloader but it doesnt work so im hoping i dont need to.
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Type *#*#7378423#*#* on your phone and if there is Bootloader Unlock Allowed: NO you can't unlock your bootlader.

eclyptos said:
No. You don't have to. Unlock Bootlader is needed only to flash Custom Roms with Custom Kernels. With Locked Bootlader you still can flash Custom Roms with Stock kernels and get Root.
If the bloatware on your phone is the main reason then you can flash via Flastool a Unbranded FTF Android 4.3 like I did, clean and smooth.
Type *#*#7378423#*#* on your phone and if there is Bootloader Unlock Allowed: NO you can't unlock your bootlader.
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Anyone got any ideas were MEGA downloads its files to on my computer? cant find it anywhere.

l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
Anyone got any ideas were MEGA downloads its files to on my computer? cant find it anywhere.
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I don't understand what you want?
Are you looking for FTFs? They are all here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469191

Please follow this link to root your Z1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2605521

mpmaheshbabu said:
Please follow this link to root your Z1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2605521
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So ive followed this link and when im going through the Unlock Bootloader process, I type that text " fastboot.exe -i 0x0fce getvar version"
and get a response of "Waiting for Device" or something like that. Same thing happened when i followed Sonys official tutorial to unlock bootloader. Thats the point i through my laptop to the floor.
Any Ideas? Sorry if im anoying you all.

l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
Any Ideas? Sorry if im anoying you all.
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I asking again, did you check if you can unlock your bootlader?

shall sansidp
eclyptos said:
I asking again, did you check if you can unlock your bootlader?
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Yes i did, and according to my fone, yes i can...
*Edit*
Rooting Status:
Bootloader unlock allowed:Yes

l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
Rooting Status:
Bootloader unlock allowed:Yes
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So you want to unlock your Bootlader but you have problem do that, right? Before that you should root your current FW and backup TA.
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To unlock your bootloader you have to follow this instruction carefully http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
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PS. If you don't succeed you doing something wrong.

eclyptos said:
So you want to unlock your Bootlader but you have problem do that, right? Before that you should root your current FW and backup TA.
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To unlock your bootloader you have to follow this instruction carefully http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
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PS. If you don't succeed you doing something wrong.
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Back again, still with no root or unlocked bootloader. Bootloader i can unlock but it wont let me because it says "Waiting for Device" all the time. ive followed the Sony guide to unlocking bootloader untill the bit it tells me to plug the device in fastboot mode. then it says the comp will want to install some drivers... point the computer to the Google File/USB_Driver,
1. my comp doesnt even ask me to install drivers when plugged in.
2. when i point the phone to that file through "Device Manager" it says there isnt any drivers there. im guessing this is the reason why im getting the "Waiting for device" problem.
Anymore ideas?

l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
Back again, still with no root or unlocked bootloader. Bootloader i can unlock but it wont let me because it says "Waiting for Device" all the time. ive followed the Sony guide to unlocking bootloader untill the bit it tells me to plug the device in fastboot mode. then it says the comp will want to install some drivers... point the computer to the Google File/USB_Driver,
1. my comp doesnt even ask me to install drivers when plugged in.
2. when i point the phone to that file through "Device Manager" it says there isnt any drivers there. im guessing this is the reason why im getting the "Waiting for device" problem.
Anymore ideas?
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I have no idea, when I plug mine, windows always install the drivers and I am on Win 7 Ultimate.
This is more complicated that it should be and it's related to bootloader problems so I think this is the only one who can help you, the OP of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440597

eclyptos said:
I have no idea, when I plug mine, windows always install the drivers and I am on Win 7 Ultimate.
This is more complicated that it should be and it's related to bootloader problems so I think this is the only one who can help you, the OP of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2440597
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How do i check to see if i have successfully Unlocked my Bootloader? I think i may have done it using a completley different way that all the tutorials tell me too :/
Also... if i go to settings/reset/ and factory reset my device, which i do, do alot of the time, will i have to unlock bootloader again each time?
And if i ever get to root my device, then same for rooting?
Thanks again people for your patience

l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
How do i check to see if i have successfully Unlocked my Bootloader?
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Type *#*#7378423#*#* there have to be wrote Bootloader Unlocked instead of Bootlader Unlock Allowed.
l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
I think i may have done it using a completley different way that all the tutorials tell me too :/
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So why you don't follow the instructions?
l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
Also... if i go to settings/reset/ and factory reset my device, which i do, do alot of the time, will i have to unlock bootloader again each time?
And if i ever get to root my device, then same for rooting?
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I think you should carefully read well all the tutorials because you getting confused.
If you do a Factory Reset you just reset your phone to how it was at the beginning and this will wipe all your data. (Apps, Data exc..)
Factory Reser have nothing to do with Bootloader or Root.
If you Unlock Bootlader, you will unlock permanently until you will not decide to re-lock it.
If you Root your phone you Root permanently. The only way to lose root is to flash a stock FTF not rooted.
Click many Thankx for my patience!

eclyptos said:
Type *#*#7378423#*#* there have to be wrote Bootloader Unlocked instead of Bootlader Unlock Allowed.
So why you don't follow the instructions?
I think you should carefully read well all the tutorials because you getting confused.
If you do a Factory Reset you just reset your phone to how it was at the beginning and this will wipe all your data. (Apps, Data exc..)
Factory Reser have nothing to do with Bootloader or Root.
If you Unlock Bootlader, you will unlock permanently until you will not decide to re-lock it.
If you Root your phone you Root permanently. The only way to lose root is to flash a stock FTF not rooted.
Click many Thankx for my patience!
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Well that just answered my question... i just like to reset my fone every now and then for some reason but just dont want to go through this whole process again lol.

l-_-M4r5h411-_-l said:
have you got any idea on my other question? a way of Checking to see if i have actully unlocked it successfully or not? thanks.
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I told you, if your Bootloader is unlocked have to be on System Info, type on the phone keyboard *#*#7378423#*#* and check.

[Q] 4.4.2 root

Please excuse my ignorance on this topic. My rooted moto x broke and I just bought a used one. The new phone is running 4.4.2 baseband MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.031.111.OOR KERNAL 3.4.43-G27DE6975.
The last time I rooted my moto withe the cracked screened I restored back to the pre camera updata and then eventually proceeded with the slapmymoto.
Can this still be done on my current phone. I have read some conflicting threads on this
Thanks!!!

4.4.2 cannot downgrade please don't try or you will 100% brick your X. What carrier are you on?

A2Trip said:
4.4.2 cannot downgrade please don't try or you will 100% brick your X. What carrier are you on?
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AT&T

Dont think AT&T can have unlocked bootloaders but that's easiest way to gain root access. But in development should be an exploit for 4.4.X I'll post a link. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623

A2Trip said:
Dont think AT&T can have unlocked bootloaders but that's easiest way to gain root access. But in development should be an exploit for 4.4.X I'll post a link. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
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Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.

Okay so UL BL is available for AT&T? Unlock on motos site first and get code. Once unlocked you can flash TWRP or CWM through fastboot reboot to recovery and when you reboot system it will root for you. Boom! lol

pooler00 said:
Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
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If you haven't already, check on the thread titled "China Middleman Back??" in the general sub-forum. He is selling bootloader-unlock codes for AT&T and Verizon devices. He may or may not have your code, but if not you get refunded...so no risk.
If he does, it will be absolutely fantastic for you because you won't have to rely on these exploits, and will gain permanent root-ability.
@A2Trip is completely correct in that you WILL brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade.
The middleman is your only hope.
Good Luck :good:
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Okay so UL BL is available for AT&T? Unlock on motos site first and get code. Once unlocked you can flash TWRP or CWM through fastboot reboot to recovery and when you reboot system it will root for you. Boom! lol
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No. At least not from the official Moto site. Both AT&T and Verizon FORBID Moto from giving out unlock codes for their branded phones.

Got it. USC got love...that sucks.

A2Trip said:
Got it. USC got love...that sucks.
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Agreed.
There IS a "temp-root" method already available for 4.4.2 (4.4.3+ patches it). It's the PIE exploit.
BUT!!! It is temp-only, does not allow write access to /system, does not disable write-protect, and the exploit must be run again (from ADB, so you must attach to a PC) each time you reboot...
So not very useful at all :/
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pooler00 said:
Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
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You didn't have the BL unlocked if you were using SlapMyMoto - you were using a write-protect-disable exploit. BIG difference. If at any point you would have updated to 4.4.2+, you would have permanently lost root and write-protect-disable. Bootloader unlock is permanent. None of the exploits are.
Also, I KNOW someone is going to say it: Questions belong in the Q&A forum, not General. Your thread will probably be moved by a moderator..... In the future, be sure to post in the correct forums.

You're only option that I'm aware of would be pie root ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 ). It's a tethered root though so rebooting your phone will lose root access. Also no system write.

gunvalk said:
You're only option that I'm aware of would be pie root ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 ). It's a tethered root though so rebooting your phone will lose root access. Also no system write.
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??? Already stated in post #4 AND post #9

[Q] Fastboot failure help needed

I am running a Verizon Moto X still on 4.2.2. I am rooted. This is NOT the Dev edition. I have plenty of experience with rooting/flashing these phones so back when I first got it the directions on rooting/flashing roms was VERY vague. No one specified you needed the Dev edition to unlock the boot loader. Well I think this came from at one point when I tried to flash TWRP (maybe). Either way, I want to take the OTA update and cannot. Does anyone know how to fix this without doing the RSD, reflash stock method? Here is a picture of what it looks like (thanks for your help in advance):

You should check out the 'Chinese Middleman' thread. If you get the bootloader unlocked you should be able to fix anything.

I can't unlock the bootloader since this is not a Dev edition. Unless something has changed, I'll check it.

You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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shamelin73 said:
You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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Even though it's not a Dev edition?

Yes you should be able too.
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danman421 said:
Even though it's not a Dev edition?
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All XT1053s can be unlocked, yes. Additionally, if you follow my advice, you don't NEED to unlock. If one of the commands fails, simply skip to the next as I previously advised, and TRY flashing with RSD Lite after you have run the commands I listed.
If you want to check and make sure fastboot is working, type:
fastboot devices
if you see your phone and it's serial number listed, you fastboot IS properly communicating with your phone.
You do not need to unlock your BL to do any of this...but if you are interested in ROOTING, you will need to.

All I really want to do is make it so my phone can take the update and any future updates. What do you mean as you previously stated?

shamelin73 said:
You should be able to unlock the boot loader but will not have warranty.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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I tried this as I did before and I get "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking". All I need to know is how to fix this from someone.

danman421 said:
All I really want to do is make it so my phone can take the update and any future updates. What do you mean as you previously stated?
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I confused you with a member I had helped previously - sorry. Please disregard the "previously stated" comment.
danman421 said:
I tried this as I did before and I get "your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking". All I need to know is how to fix this from someone.
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It does NOT require unlocking the bootloader to flash your carrier's correct ROM. Simply follow the instructions in the "Return to 100% Stock" thread to flash the XT1053 ROM, and you'll be able to take all future updates.
If you DO unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, and root your device, you will have to un-do any modifications made before EVERY OTA. If you don't care about root, don't worry about unlocking.
Additionally, if you DO want to unlock, you could try a different browser and make sure you are inputting the unlock data correctly. It is recommended that you copy the unlock data from the command prompt to notepad, remove all spaces and bootloader messages (you ONLY want the code - as one complete string), then copy from notepad into the Unlock website.
And finally, keep in mind that unless you unlock your BL, you will not be able to root and disable write-protect once you update to the latest version.
The real problem here is that you use an "Exploit" to root your device previously. Now you need to return to full stock to restore your partitions to their factory state.
Simply follow the instructions in the Return to stock thread (in general sub-forum), and be sure to flash the LATEST version for your carrier. It should be 4.4.3.
Good Luck.

samwathegreat said:
I confused you with a member I had helped previously - sorry. Please disregard the "previously stated" comment.
It does NOT require unlocking the bootloader to flash your carrier's correct ROM. Simply follow the instructions in the "Return to 100% Stock" thread to flash the XT1053 ROM, and you'll be able to take all future updates.
If you DO unlock the bootloader, flash custom recovery, and root your device, you will have to un-do any modifications made before EVERY OTA. If you don't care about root, don't worry about unlocking.
Additionally, if you DO want to unlock, you could try a different browser and make sure you are inputting the unlock data correctly. It is recommended that you copy the unlock data from the command prompt to notepad, remove all spaces and bootloader messages (you ONLY want the code - as one complete string), then copy from notepad into the Unlock website.
And finally, keep in mind that unless you unlock your BL, you will not be able to root and disable write-protect once you update to the latest version.
The real problem here is that you use an "Exploit" to root your device previously. Now you need to return to full stock to restore your partitions to their factory state.
Simply follow the instructions in the Return to stock thread (in general sub-forum), and be sure to flash the LATEST version for your carrier. It should be 4.4.3.
Good Luck.
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So if I am reading this correctly, there is no way to keep all of my data and take the update?

danman421 said:
So if I am reading this correctly, there is no way to keep all of my data and take the update?
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You can attempt to, by either editing the XML in the SBF and removing the line that says "erase userdata", or by skipping the erase userdata if you use the manual method, but either way CAN mess everything up.
You used an EXPLOIT previously. Any time you use an exploit, you should -expect- to have to wipe everything and re-install from scratch if you want to get back to stock in order to be able to take updates. Keep this in mind if you use any exploits in the future.

Hi! This hasn't seemed to spelled out yet..... But many Moto x's can be unlocked, not just dev editions. However, you stated in the opening post that you have a Verizon Non dev, which can not be unlocked. Only way is to pay the "China middleman" (See thread in general with that name).
And personally.... I would stay on 4.2.2 and do the Slapmymoto method to get root and write protection disabled. That is the best root scenario, aside from unlocking the bootloader.
If you update to 4.4.2 or higher, you will have write protection enabled always, and no root, or sorta root with towelroot and pie. But that will limit what you can do.
See the How do I root my phone sticky thread in general for your options.

I should have posted earlier. I ran RSDLite and put the newest version on. I am unrooted. My Moto X is a Sept '13 version the the middleman probably wont work anyways. Its not worth it with this phone, im tired of the rooting, I guess im at that point in my life... Thanks for all your help though guys!

danman421 said:
I am running a Verizon Moto X still on 4.2.2. I am rooted. This is NOT the Dev edition. I have plenty of experience with rooting/flashing these phones so back when I first got it the directions on rooting/flashing roms was VERY vague. No one specified you needed the Dev edition to unlock the boot loader. Well I think this came from at one point when I tried to flash TWRP (maybe). Either way, I want to take the OTA update and cannot. Does anyone know how to fix this without doing the RSD, reflash stock method? Here is a picture of what it looks like (thanks for your help in advance):
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Pardon my jumping in here late but..
I see a big issue here.
Based on that screen shot, you have boot loader 30.B4, that is NOT the bootloader that comes wtih 4.2.2. Did you mean to type 4.4.2? or do you really have 4.2.2 on there?
If you really had 4.2.2 on your phone with a 30.B4 bootloader, then you had 4.4.2 on there at one point, and downgraded!! You need to be REALLY CAREFUL or you will brick your phone.

You are correct, I was on 4.4.2. My wife's S4 that I just upgraded was on 4.2.2. Sorry for the confusion.

KidJoe said:
Pardon my jumping in here late but..
I see a big issue here.
Based on that screen shot, you have boot loader 30.B4, that is NOT the bootloader that comes wtih 4.2.2. Did you mean to type 4.4.2? or do you really have 4.2.2 on there?
If you really had 4.2.2 on your phone with a 30.B4 bootloader, then you had 4.4.2 on there at one point, and downgraded!! You need to be REALLY CAREFUL or you will brick your phone.
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Good catch! ?
OP... Perhaps full disclosure of what you have done on the phone would help.
Or is that how it was?
If it's been downgraded to 4.2.2 after being on 4.4.2... As said above.... You could brick now... Especially if you OTA.
I'd tread lightly at this point.

danman421 said:
You are correct, I was on 4.4.2. My wife's S4 that I just upgraded was on 4.2.2. Sorry for the confusion.
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so based on post # 14 of this post... it appears you are all good now? is that the case? Or do you still need help?
Oh, and if your bootloader is locked (Verizon non-DE), you can't get code from China Middle man, and you are on 4.4.2, you could try TowelPieRoot for rooting, but write protection is enabled so it will be kind of limited (compared to SlapMyMoto/MotoWPNoMO or if you had an unlocked bootloader), and there is no root for 4.4.4.

Yes, that was a good catch. What I did was RSD Lite to 4.4.4 now which reset all my data.

KidJoe said:
so based on post # 14 of this post... it appears you are all good now? is that the case? Or do you still need help?
Oh, and if your bootloader is locked (Verizon non-DE), you can't get code from China Middle man, and you are on 4.4.2, you could try TowelPieRoot for rooting, but write protection is enabled so it will be kind of limited (compared to SlapMyMoto/MotoWPNoMO or if you had an unlocked bootloader), and there is no root for 4.4.4.
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Correct, I do not need help anymore but thank you.

Root without unlock bootloader?

I am a newbie for nexus lineup. I am going to jump to N6 from oneplus one. As far as i know from search, every post says N6 can only root after unlock bootloader. So i just want to know can i root without unlock bootloader? And is it possible to get update OS from OTA after bootloader unlock?
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aungkhaingoo said:
I am a newbie for nexus lineup. I am going to jump to N6 from oneplus one. As far as i know from search, every post says N6 can only root after unlock bootloader. So i just want to know can i root without unlock bootloader? And is it possible to get update OS from OTA?
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you cant root your device without unlocking the bootloader. to root, you need to flash a custom recovery, then flash the supersu.zip file. none of which tou can do with a locked bootloader. in order to flash a custom recovery, you need to unlick the bootloader. and you will get an ota with root, but you cant apply it, so its pointless.

aungkhaingoo said:
I am a newbie for nexus lineup. I am going to jump to N6 from oneplus one. As far as i know from search, every post says N6 can only root after unlock bootloader. So i just want to know can i root without unlock bootloader? And is it possible to get update OS from OTA after bootloader unlock?
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You may be able to do this by using chainfire's autoroot tool. But why the reluctance to unlock? It's not difficult. Unlocked bootloader has no effect on accepting OTA. On the other hand, root will prevent you from accepting OTA. It's easy to fastboot flash back to stock when a new OTA becomes available. And it's even easier to download the Google factory images and fastboot flash them. Plenty of "how to" threads on the general section.
With that said, the only reason I can see for not unlocking your bootloader would be if your employer has restrictions, or your are really worried about someone stealing your device and getting your personal information.
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simms22 said:
you cant root your device without unlocking the bootloader. to root, you need to flash a custom recovery, then flash the supersu.zip file. none of which tou can do with a locked bootloader. in order to flash a custom recovery, you need to unlick the bootloader. and you will get an ota with root, but you cant apply it, so its pointless.
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I seem to be walking in your footsteps today. Sorry about that.

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You may be able to do this by using chainfire's autoroot tool. But why the reluctance to unlock? It's not difficult. Unlocked bootloader has no effect on accepting OTA. On the other hand, root will prevent you from accepting OTA. It's easy to fastboot flash back to stock when a new OTA becomes available. And it's even easier to download the Google factory images and fastboot flash them. Plenty of "how to" threads on the general section.
With that said, the only reason I can see for not unlocking your bootloader would be if your employer has restrictions, or your are really worried about someone stealing your device and getting your personal information.
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I seem to be walking in your footsteps today. Sorry about that.
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na, thats ok, even great! im just bored at work at the moment, lol

Question about root. XT1900-1

I picked up the Best Buy unlocked version. Which I assumed was the Android One version(?) but I'm not seeing anything about it on this phone. Anyways, I'm not familiar with some of the lingo for this phone in the threads, so I'm not sure what to look for compatibility-wise. I came from the S9+ so I have to figure all that out. Is it bootloader unlockable, and rootable? Is it the A1 version? Is there a benefit to changing the firmware to A1(if that's even possible, running 8.1)?
Thanks for all the input.

Android One has the badge or logo on the back. You can use Motorola's website to definitively determine if your phone call be unlocked. Typically, the one from Amazon isn't.

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Android One has the badge or logo on the back. You can use Motorola's website to definitively determine if your phone call be unlocked. Typically, the one from Amazon isn't.
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To be clear, you're talking about the bootloader? The phone itself is the best buy unlocked version. I really would like to flash Android One on it, as long as everything is working correctly.

I don't know of anything else besides "unlock of bootloader".
Just be aware, there's no return from unlock of bootloader. You do that process, safety net is broken and modified flag is tripped. There are no factory signed official images provided by Lenovo. If all steps are followed to a T from these forums, phone will always be functional. You have ways around safety net via Magisk if Google Pay is important to you.

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I don't know of anything else besides "unlock of bootloader".
Just be aware, there's no return from unlock of bootloader. You do that process, safety net is broken and modified flag is tripped. There are no factory signed official images provided by Lenovo. If all steps are followed to a T from these forums, phone will always be functional. You have ways around safety net via Magisk if Google Pay is important to you.
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I meant as in sim unlocked. Do I need the bootloader unlocked in order to root or flash A1? If I unlock it will I still receive updates and function a normal if I keep it stock rom?

I have been trying to find up to date directions to unlock the bootloader on my phone with absolutely no luck. No where does it say a compatible unlock to work with the new 8.1 software. I would love to install A1 on my sim unlocked version of my x4. I can't find an up to date version to root or anything. It's so annoying that I am about to just return this phone and buy something else. The development for it on here is ridiculous. The communication and instructions are just as bad.

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I have been trying to find up to date directions to unlock the bootloader on my phone with absolutely no luck. No where does it say a compatible unlock to work with the new 8.1 software. I would love to install A1 on my sim unlocked version of my x4. I can't find an up to date version to root or anything. It's so annoying that I am about to just return this phone and buy something else. The development for it on here is ridiculous. The communication and instructions are just as bad.
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You're obviously not looking hard enough and clearly your first time with an A/B partition phone. Motorola has their website to unlock the bootloader. One quick Google, first result: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Install twrp, and you can flash root of your choice. Magisk or SuperSU. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/how-to/guide-how-to-root-moto-x4-install-twrp-t3806460
Not sure what you mean by ridiculous. A few people have been hard at work to give us 3 custom ROMs already.
Not to mention the instructions to get a specific stock firmware flashed.
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I meant as in sim unlocked. Do I need the bootloader unlocked in order to root or flash A1? If I unlock it will I still receive updates and function a normal if I keep it stock rom?
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The phone will work with any sim. Though recommend you verify the bands the phone is compatible with the carrier of choice. Unlocking bootloader as it's been said multiple times in these forums, breaks OTAs. Topjohnwu has guide around it:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md
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Or just then the phone.

Neffy27 said:
You're obviously not looking hard enough and clearly your first time with an A/B partition phone. Motorola has their website to unlock the bootloader. One quick Google, first result: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Install twrp, and you can flash root of your choice. Magisk or SuperSU. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/how-to/guide-how-to-root-moto-x4-install-twrp-t3806460
Not sure what you mean by ridiculous. A few people have been hard at work to give us 3 custom ROMs already.
Not to mention the instructions to get a specific stock firmware flashed.
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The phone will work with any sim. Though recommend you verify the bands the phone is compatible with the carrier of choice. Unlocking bootloader as it's been said multiple times in these forums, breaks OTAs. Topjohnwu has guide around it:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md
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I'm not finding anything saying it's compatible with certain build numbers and/or 8.1 and I'm not looking to brick my phone which seems like people are. I can do a quick Google search but it's not going to say what's compatible.

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I'm not finding anything saying it's compatible with certain build numbers and/or 8.1 and I'm not looking to brick my phone which seems like people are. I can do a quick Google search but it's not going to say what's compatible.
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FWIW, I picked up a carrier unlocked Moto X4 from Best Buy this morning and I was able to get a bootloader unlock code from the Motorola site, install Magisk & restore apps via TitaniumBackup. YMMV.

Nickdroid86 said:
I'm not finding anything saying it's compatible with certain build numbers and/or 8.1 and I'm not looking to brick my phone which seems like people are. I can do a quick Google search but it's not going to say what's compatible.
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I'm not understanding what you're saying. Is what compatible? The build number is firmware related which is what I'm assuming you want to switch, between firmwares.