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Is this device brickeable?

Hi!
I just got this phone today (Finally!) and i love it, but i want to get rid of all the bloatware from installed there by my carrier company, so i need to root the phone, right? I'd also love to flash ROM when we finally get some...
But my question here is... How birckeable is the xt890? Are all the rooting methods posted here safe?
Do we have any un-brick methods such as with NVflash?
Thanks!

Charlie.igg said:
Hi!
I just got this phone today (Finally!) and i love it, but i want to get rid of all the bloatware from installed there by my carrier company, so i need to root the phone, right? I'd also love to flash ROM when we finally get some...
But my question here is... How birckeable is the xt890? Are all the rooting methods posted here safe?
Do we have any un-brick methods such as with NVflash?
Thanks!
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Yes, you need to root to remove bloat included in your ~/system/app/ and ~/system/vendor/app/ folders. Easiet way is flashing a different fastboot XML file to a bloat-free carrier (like Retail EU or Retail GB).
As long as you do not go out of your way to remove both the bootloader and the bootloader backup file you won't be bricking.
We have plenty of fastboot restore files, but many require you to be unlocked bootloader to use. Honestly, I see people "brick" here from time to time and its because they never unlocked their bootloader.
None of the rooting methods will brick you or have a risk of it. Unlocking it is the least painful way to do so, motofail2go requires button combos and can be confusing.
We do have a ROM, but the guy posting (papi92) resides over at DroidRZR.com, if you want to test it I would PM him here or whatever you want.
We unbrick with fastboot. I have never broken fastboot and don't want to try
Enjoy your new device, remember though that Questions go into the Q&A forum.

mattlgroff said:
Yes, you need to root to remove bloat included in your ~/system/app/ and ~/system/vendor/app/ folders. Easiet way is flashing a different fastboot XML file to a bloat-free carrier (like Retail EU or Retail GB).
As long as you do not go out of your way to remove both the bootloader and the bootloader backup file you won't be bricking.
We have plenty of fastboot restore files, but many require you to be unlocked bootloader to use. Honestly, I see people "brick" here from time to time and its because they never unlocked their bootloader.
None of the rooting methods will brick you or have a risk of it. Unlocking it is the least painful way to do so, motofail2go requires button combos and can be confusing.
We do have a ROM, but the guy posting (papi92) resides over at DroidRZR.com, if you want to test it I would PM him here or whatever you want.
We unbrick with fastboot. I have never broken fastboot and don't want to try
Enjoy your new device, remember though that Questions go into the Q&A forum.
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Thank you very much for your reply.
I'm already rooted and have removed all bloatware, and are super happy with the device.
I was however unable to unlock my bootloader, this because when I enter the IMEI-related code corresponding to my phone on the Motorola webpage, it tells me that my device is not a candidate to get its bootloader unlocked.
This is why i had to root with Motofail2go. Im guessing not having my bootloader unlocked will be a big obstacle in the future when new ROMs start coming out. is that right=?

You should definitely grap Mattlgroffs Root Keeper Port for the i! If your BL isn't unlockable, you will lose root as soon as you get an OTA Update. The new OTA's are NOT rootable with Motofail2go!
Sent from my XT890
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HSD-Pilot said:
You should definitely grap Mattlgroffs Root Keeper Port for the i! If your BL isn't unlockable, you will lose root as soon as you get an OTA Update. The new OTA's are NOT rootable with Motofail2go!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34248515
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Ok! thanks for the tip!

[Q] 4.4.2 root

Please excuse my ignorance on this topic. My rooted moto x broke and I just bought a used one. The new phone is running 4.4.2 baseband MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.031.111.OOR KERNAL 3.4.43-G27DE6975.
The last time I rooted my moto withe the cracked screened I restored back to the pre camera updata and then eventually proceeded with the slapmymoto.
Can this still be done on my current phone. I have read some conflicting threads on this
Thanks!!!

4.4.2 cannot downgrade please don't try or you will 100% brick your X. What carrier are you on?

A2Trip said:
4.4.2 cannot downgrade please don't try or you will 100% brick your X. What carrier are you on?
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AT&T

Dont think AT&T can have unlocked bootloaders but that's easiest way to gain root access. But in development should be an exploit for 4.4.X I'll post a link. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623

A2Trip said:
Dont think AT&T can have unlocked bootloaders but that's easiest way to gain root access. But in development should be an exploit for 4.4.X I'll post a link. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
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Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.

Okay so UL BL is available for AT&T? Unlock on motos site first and get code. Once unlocked you can flash TWRP or CWM through fastboot reboot to recovery and when you reboot system it will root for you. Boom! lol

pooler00 said:
Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
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If you haven't already, check on the thread titled "China Middleman Back??" in the general sub-forum. He is selling bootloader-unlock codes for AT&T and Verizon devices. He may or may not have your code, but if not you get refunded...so no risk.
If he does, it will be absolutely fantastic for you because you won't have to rely on these exploits, and will gain permanent root-ability.
@A2Trip is completely correct in that you WILL brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade.
The middleman is your only hope.
Good Luck :good:
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A2Trip said:
Okay so UL BL is available for AT&T? Unlock on motos site first and get code. Once unlocked you can flash TWRP or CWM through fastboot reboot to recovery and when you reboot system it will root for you. Boom! lol
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No. At least not from the official Moto site. Both AT&T and Verizon FORBID Moto from giving out unlock codes for their branded phones.

Got it. USC got love...that sucks.

A2Trip said:
Got it. USC got love...that sucks.
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Agreed.
There IS a "temp-root" method already available for 4.4.2 (4.4.3+ patches it). It's the PIE exploit.
BUT!!! It is temp-only, does not allow write access to /system, does not disable write-protect, and the exploit must be run again (from ADB, so you must attach to a PC) each time you reboot...
So not very useful at all :/
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pooler00 said:
Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
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You didn't have the BL unlocked if you were using SlapMyMoto - you were using a write-protect-disable exploit. BIG difference. If at any point you would have updated to 4.4.2+, you would have permanently lost root and write-protect-disable. Bootloader unlock is permanent. None of the exploits are.
Also, I KNOW someone is going to say it: Questions belong in the Q&A forum, not General. Your thread will probably be moved by a moderator..... In the future, be sure to post in the correct forums.

You're only option that I'm aware of would be pie root ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 ). It's a tethered root though so rebooting your phone will lose root access. Also no system write.

gunvalk said:
You're only option that I'm aware of would be pie root ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 ). It's a tethered root though so rebooting your phone will lose root access. Also no system write.
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??? Already stated in post #4 AND post #9

Nexus 6 stock on Google boot logo

Hi guys, so here is the story. My brother bought a Nexus 6, it came with 5.1 and he tried to update it via OTA today, it boot up, reboot and when powering on, it was stuck in a bootloop.
I tried first just clearing cache and data on the stock recovery, but had the same results when trying to boot up. I started to get worry but hey its a Nexus, he couldn't brick it just taking an OTA.
Well, I booted to fastboot which does fine, my computer recognozed it, i tried to faatboot flash a custom recovery but, happens the bootloader is locked, i thought I am just a command away to unlock it, but it fails telling me that the option was not thicked in settings.
I now, have no idea what else to do. Any ideas? Is there anything I can flash on the bootloader if it is not unlocked?
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Hello,
please try to Flash with this:
[Toolkit] Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit v2.0.5 [Updated 03/27/15]: Nexus 6 Thread

There should be laws against soliciting.
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Trafalgar Square said:
Hello,
please try to Flash with this:
[Toolkit] Wug's Nexus Root Toolkit v2.0.5 [Updated 03/27/15]: Nexus 6 Thread
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Will do in the AM
istperson said:
There should be laws against soliciting.
Sent from my Nexus 6 running cyosp using Tapatalk
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Not sure if understand what do you mean
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istperson said:
There should be laws against soliciting.
Sent from my Nexus 6 running cyosp using Tapatalk
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shall i ask a lawyer for you?

JakeOcn said:
Not sure if understand what do you mean
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Offering "solutions" that are proved not to work, by promoting methods that are not recommended. These are the homeopathic solutions for the real diseases.
If your phone's bootloader is not unlocked, and the Enable OEM unlocking is not ticked then you can't do anything. And if you can't do anything, you can't do anything with tollkits either, because they are not magic pixies that solve problems, but only frontends for adb and fastboot.
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Droidphilev said:
shall i ask a lawyer for you?
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istperson said:
Offering "solutions" that are proved not to work, by promoting methods that are not recommended. These are the homeopathic solutions for the real diseases.
If your phone's bootloader is not unlocked, and the Enable OEM unlocking is not ticked then you can't do anything. And if you can't do anything, you can't do anything with tollkits either, because they are not magic pixies that solve problems, but only frontends for adb and fastboot.
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Thanks for clarifying. So, I guess the phone is basically bricked with no known solutions, correct?

To be clear:
You seem to know your way around fastboot, so the tip to use a toolkit is a bit useless (and not recommended by a large part of xda).
And about your problem: Your brothers N6 is a brick, sorry. With a locked bootloader and no custom recovery there is no way to recover from a bootloop if the "allow OEM unlocking" isn't ticked (found in the developer options in settings).
Since Lollipop it is quite possible to brick your Nexus by just taking an OTA. First thing I always do with my phones, even before Lollipop, is to unlock the bootloader. That way you always have a way back.

I'm afraid, you have to send it for repairs. But they'll replace it, because it's their fault.
But when you get your replacement, you really should start with unlocking the bootloader. That won't affect anything else, but if Google botches another OTA, the phone will be fixable.

Didgeridoohan said:
To be clear:
You seem to know your way around fastboot, so the tip to use a toolkit is a bit useless (and not recommended by a large part of xda).
And about your problem: Your brothers N6 is a brick, sorry. With a locked bootloader and no custom recovery there is no way to recover from a bootloop if the "allow OEM unlocking" isn't ticked (found in the developer options in settings).
Since Lollipop it is quite possible to brick your Nexus by just taking an OTA. First thing I always do with my phones, even before Lollipop, is to unlock the bootloader. That way you always have a way back.
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I'm afraid, you have to send it for repairs. But they'll replace it, because it's their fault.
But when you get your replacement, you really should start with unlocking the bootloader. That won't affect anything else, but if Google botches another OTA, the phone will be fixable.
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Thank you both, I will in that case send it back to google and make sure my brother unlocks the bootloader as soon as he gets it.
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[Q]Stuff to do before unlocking bootloader/root

So I just got My OnePlus 3T and like most, would like it rooted! I have had experience with rooting and unlocking bootloader, but since My earlier devices were by Sony, there is a lot of difference. In Sony devices, there was no need to unlock bootloader to root, but it seems that for rooting 3T, I need to unlock bootloader. Even that doesn't seem difficult since there is this great guide with a toolkit. But My concern is that do I need to backup any partition before I unlock bootloader? Like in Sony we had a TA partition, which could be backed up before unlocking bootloader and would get wiped after unlocking bootloader. This is just for keeping it as backup and restore it to device if I decide to lock bootloader again. Also, will I loose anything if I unlock bootloader? Such as anything specific to OEM or camera functionality?

Nope. On OP devices there's no permanent penalty for unlocking. If you ever want to go back, you can re-lock the bootloader. But: unlocking and locking will wipe your phone. So you can't carry over root to a locked bootloader.

dreinulldrei said:
Nope. On OP devices there's no permanent penalty for unlocking. If you ever want to go back, you can re-lock the bootloader. But: unlocking and locking will wipe your phone. So you can't carry over root to a locked bootloader.
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Okay, that helps! So to return back to locked bootloader everything would need to be like stock(no root, custom recovery etc.)
I had read somewhere about EFS backup and that it is related to IMEI number of the phone. This need to be done before or after the rooting process?
Also, would I need to disable encryption (as it is seen enabled in settings) and remove the fingerprint lock option before unlocking bootloader?
And just to be clear, I'm going to do following steps in the sequence to flash TWRP and root, Please let Me know if it is correct:
1. Unlock bootloader
2. Flash TWRP.
3. Flash SuperUser
all this with the help of ToolKit of OnePlus 3T. I don't need to take backup as the phone is new.
Also, I will be flashing the phh SuperUser for support with Magisk as mentioned here.

Hey, do you guys know if you can get official OTAs if you have TWRP installed?

Former Z2 user here @Mirhawk
I did the advice backup as a precaution. Then did your 1,2,3 steps. May I ask, why Magisk? Is Android Pay currently working with stock ROM + Root + unlocked bootloader?
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Mirhawk said:
Okay, that helps! So to return back to locked bootloader everything would need to be like stock(no root, custom recovery etc.)
I had read somewhere about EFS backup and that it is related to IMEI number of the phone. This need to be done before or after the rooting process?
Also, would I need to disable encryption (as it is seen enabled in settings) and remove the fingerprint lock option before unlocking bootloader?
And just to be clear, I'm going to do following steps in the sequence to flash TWRP and root, Please let Me know if it is correct:
1. Unlock bootloader
2. Flash TWRP.
3. Flash SuperUser
all this with the help of ToolKit of OnePlus 3T. I don't need to take backup as the phone is new.
Also, I will be flashing the phh SuperUser for support with Magisk as mentioned here.
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sajed98 said:
Hey, do you guys know if you can get official OTAs if you have TWRP installed?
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AFAIK stock recovery is required. Otherwise install zip manually via downloads.oneplus.net

23Six said:
Former Z2 user here @Mirhawk
I did the advice backup as a precaution. Then did your 1,2,3 steps. May I ask, why Magisk? Is Android Pay currently working with stock ROM + Root + unlocked bootloader?
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AFAIK stock recovery is required. Otherwise install zip manually via downloads.oneplus.net
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OK, thanks for your reply.

23Six said:
Former Z2 user here @Mirhawk
I did the advice backup as a precaution. Then did your 1,2,3 steps. May I ask, why Magisk? Is Android Pay currently working with stock ROM + Root + unlocked bootloader?
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AFAIK stock recovery is required. Otherwise install zip manually via downloads.oneplus.net
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I'm not interested in Android Pay, as it doesn't work in My country, It is Pokemon Go I wanted, but I guess it doesn't work. Thanks for the infor though! It was a lot simple in Sony!

Question about root. XT1900-1

I picked up the Best Buy unlocked version. Which I assumed was the Android One version(?) but I'm not seeing anything about it on this phone. Anyways, I'm not familiar with some of the lingo for this phone in the threads, so I'm not sure what to look for compatibility-wise. I came from the S9+ so I have to figure all that out. Is it bootloader unlockable, and rootable? Is it the A1 version? Is there a benefit to changing the firmware to A1(if that's even possible, running 8.1)?
Thanks for all the input.

Android One has the badge or logo on the back. You can use Motorola's website to definitively determine if your phone call be unlocked. Typically, the one from Amazon isn't.

Neffy27 said:
Android One has the badge or logo on the back. You can use Motorola's website to definitively determine if your phone call be unlocked. Typically, the one from Amazon isn't.
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To be clear, you're talking about the bootloader? The phone itself is the best buy unlocked version. I really would like to flash Android One on it, as long as everything is working correctly.

I don't know of anything else besides "unlock of bootloader".
Just be aware, there's no return from unlock of bootloader. You do that process, safety net is broken and modified flag is tripped. There are no factory signed official images provided by Lenovo. If all steps are followed to a T from these forums, phone will always be functional. You have ways around safety net via Magisk if Google Pay is important to you.

Neffy27 said:
I don't know of anything else besides "unlock of bootloader".
Just be aware, there's no return from unlock of bootloader. You do that process, safety net is broken and modified flag is tripped. There are no factory signed official images provided by Lenovo. If all steps are followed to a T from these forums, phone will always be functional. You have ways around safety net via Magisk if Google Pay is important to you.
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I meant as in sim unlocked. Do I need the bootloader unlocked in order to root or flash A1? If I unlock it will I still receive updates and function a normal if I keep it stock rom?

I have been trying to find up to date directions to unlock the bootloader on my phone with absolutely no luck. No where does it say a compatible unlock to work with the new 8.1 software. I would love to install A1 on my sim unlocked version of my x4. I can't find an up to date version to root or anything. It's so annoying that I am about to just return this phone and buy something else. The development for it on here is ridiculous. The communication and instructions are just as bad.

Nickdroid86 said:
I have been trying to find up to date directions to unlock the bootloader on my phone with absolutely no luck. No where does it say a compatible unlock to work with the new 8.1 software. I would love to install A1 on my sim unlocked version of my x4. I can't find an up to date version to root or anything. It's so annoying that I am about to just return this phone and buy something else. The development for it on here is ridiculous. The communication and instructions are just as bad.
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You're obviously not looking hard enough and clearly your first time with an A/B partition phone. Motorola has their website to unlock the bootloader. One quick Google, first result: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Install twrp, and you can flash root of your choice. Magisk or SuperSU. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/how-to/guide-how-to-root-moto-x4-install-twrp-t3806460
Not sure what you mean by ridiculous. A few people have been hard at work to give us 3 custom ROMs already.
Not to mention the instructions to get a specific stock firmware flashed.
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I meant as in sim unlocked. Do I need the bootloader unlocked in order to root or flash A1? If I unlock it will I still receive updates and function a normal if I keep it stock rom?
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The phone will work with any sim. Though recommend you verify the bands the phone is compatible with the carrier of choice. Unlocking bootloader as it's been said multiple times in these forums, breaks OTAs. Topjohnwu has guide around it:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md
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Or just then the phone.

Neffy27 said:
You're obviously not looking hard enough and clearly your first time with an A/B partition phone. Motorola has their website to unlock the bootloader. One quick Google, first result: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Install twrp, and you can flash root of your choice. Magisk or SuperSU. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/how-to/guide-how-to-root-moto-x4-install-twrp-t3806460
Not sure what you mean by ridiculous. A few people have been hard at work to give us 3 custom ROMs already.
Not to mention the instructions to get a specific stock firmware flashed.
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The phone will work with any sim. Though recommend you verify the bands the phone is compatible with the carrier of choice. Unlocking bootloader as it's been said multiple times in these forums, breaks OTAs. Topjohnwu has guide around it:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md
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I'm not finding anything saying it's compatible with certain build numbers and/or 8.1 and I'm not looking to brick my phone which seems like people are. I can do a quick Google search but it's not going to say what's compatible.

Nickdroid86 said:
I'm not finding anything saying it's compatible with certain build numbers and/or 8.1 and I'm not looking to brick my phone which seems like people are. I can do a quick Google search but it's not going to say what's compatible.
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FWIW, I picked up a carrier unlocked Moto X4 from Best Buy this morning and I was able to get a bootloader unlock code from the Motorola site, install Magisk & restore apps via TitaniumBackup. YMMV.

Nickdroid86 said:
I'm not finding anything saying it's compatible with certain build numbers and/or 8.1 and I'm not looking to brick my phone which seems like people are. I can do a quick Google search but it's not going to say what's compatible.
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I'm not understanding what you're saying. Is what compatible? The build number is firmware related which is what I'm assuming you want to switch, between firmwares.