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Is this device brickeable?

Hi!
I just got this phone today (Finally!) and i love it, but i want to get rid of all the bloatware from installed there by my carrier company, so i need to root the phone, right? I'd also love to flash ROM when we finally get some...
But my question here is... How birckeable is the xt890? Are all the rooting methods posted here safe?
Do we have any un-brick methods such as with NVflash?
Thanks!

Charlie.igg said:
Hi!
I just got this phone today (Finally!) and i love it, but i want to get rid of all the bloatware from installed there by my carrier company, so i need to root the phone, right? I'd also love to flash ROM when we finally get some...
But my question here is... How birckeable is the xt890? Are all the rooting methods posted here safe?
Do we have any un-brick methods such as with NVflash?
Thanks!
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Yes, you need to root to remove bloat included in your ~/system/app/ and ~/system/vendor/app/ folders. Easiet way is flashing a different fastboot XML file to a bloat-free carrier (like Retail EU or Retail GB).
As long as you do not go out of your way to remove both the bootloader and the bootloader backup file you won't be bricking.
We have plenty of fastboot restore files, but many require you to be unlocked bootloader to use. Honestly, I see people "brick" here from time to time and its because they never unlocked their bootloader.
None of the rooting methods will brick you or have a risk of it. Unlocking it is the least painful way to do so, motofail2go requires button combos and can be confusing.
We do have a ROM, but the guy posting (papi92) resides over at DroidRZR.com, if you want to test it I would PM him here or whatever you want.
We unbrick with fastboot. I have never broken fastboot and don't want to try
Enjoy your new device, remember though that Questions go into the Q&A forum.

mattlgroff said:
Yes, you need to root to remove bloat included in your ~/system/app/ and ~/system/vendor/app/ folders. Easiet way is flashing a different fastboot XML file to a bloat-free carrier (like Retail EU or Retail GB).
As long as you do not go out of your way to remove both the bootloader and the bootloader backup file you won't be bricking.
We have plenty of fastboot restore files, but many require you to be unlocked bootloader to use. Honestly, I see people "brick" here from time to time and its because they never unlocked their bootloader.
None of the rooting methods will brick you or have a risk of it. Unlocking it is the least painful way to do so, motofail2go requires button combos and can be confusing.
We do have a ROM, but the guy posting (papi92) resides over at DroidRZR.com, if you want to test it I would PM him here or whatever you want.
We unbrick with fastboot. I have never broken fastboot and don't want to try
Enjoy your new device, remember though that Questions go into the Q&A forum.
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Thank you very much for your reply.
I'm already rooted and have removed all bloatware, and are super happy with the device.
I was however unable to unlock my bootloader, this because when I enter the IMEI-related code corresponding to my phone on the Motorola webpage, it tells me that my device is not a candidate to get its bootloader unlocked.
This is why i had to root with Motofail2go. Im guessing not having my bootloader unlocked will be a big obstacle in the future when new ROMs start coming out. is that right=?

You should definitely grap Mattlgroffs Root Keeper Port for the i! If your BL isn't unlockable, you will lose root as soon as you get an OTA Update. The new OTA's are NOT rootable with Motofail2go!
Sent from my XT890
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HSD-Pilot said:
You should definitely grap Mattlgroffs Root Keeper Port for the i! If your BL isn't unlockable, you will lose root as soon as you get an OTA Update. The new OTA's are NOT rootable with Motofail2go!
Sent from my XT890
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34248515
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Ok! thanks for the tip!

[SOLVED] Need help bigtime! accidently upgraded

I've been searching and reading to no avail and have lot's of questions and thoughts needed:
Ok, so I was avoiding updating at all cost.. But as the update notifications became more frequent. I accidentally clicked it and my phone began to reboot and update. now on 4.4.2 and here are the questions...
1. Why can't I downgrade a bootloader? (so I can root and such hackery)
2. If I unlocked my bootloader would I be able to use any of the root methods?
2a. Would I be able to use the recovery mode trick here and get SU, or root or something going?
3. Is there a way to unroll an upgrade? either by recovery or some secret downgrade recovery menu? LOL, yea I'm desperate.
My goals are:
- try and root and get the amr-wb codec for tmobile activated by editing build.prop/system files/modems WHATEVER!, it's not activated.
- I miss viper4android, A LOT!
- Just regain the control of everything
I'm willing to do whatever thru Motorola to get it downgraded, I'm am comfortable with adb, flashing, rooting, editing files, and walking into dark rooms.
So please, fill me in people.
p.s. don't tell me to search.... I'm frustrated and have been researching for days.......

Read the stickies dude. There's a complete guide in there. If you can unlock boot loader...root is easy.
If you can't unlock boot loader, no root for 4.4.2.
And no, you can't downgrade now.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Tip....the sticky you want is in general.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Also....researching for days? Come on....you're fibbing. LOL. Google "Moto x root 4.4.2"....boom.....answers.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

I'll make easy read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

drago10029 said:
1. Why can't I downgrade a bootloader? (so I can root and such hackery)
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Because no one has found a way to do it so far. The partition where the bootloader is is not visible to you even if you are rooted.
drago10029 said:
2. If I unlocked my bootloader would I be able to use any of the root methods?
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No not any. You don't want to use the locked bootloader root methods if your bootloader is unlocked. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you do this to root:
Rooting a Moto X With an Unlocked Bootloader
This works to root a Moto X on 4.4.2 as well as 4.4. You will be fine if you just stick to the instructions I posted.

Cozume said:
Because no one has found a way to do it so far. The partition where the bootloader is is not visible to you even if you are rooted.
No not any. You don't want to use the locked bootloader root methods if your bootloader is unlocked. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you do this to root:
Rooting a Moto X With an Unlocked Bootloader
This works to root a Moto X on 4.4.2 as well as 4.4. You will be fine if you just stick to the instructions I posted.
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Well thanks for the response! I actually found my answer already reading through the custom recovery thread and asking there. You get a thanks anyway for your help and your post. Fyi, that post should probably be in the general section.

Cozume said:
Because no one has found a way to do it so far. The partition where the bootloader is is not visible to you even if you are rooted.
No not any. You don't want to use the locked bootloader root methods if your bootloader is unlocked. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you do this to root:
Rooting a Moto X With an Unlocked Bootloader
This works to root a Moto X on 4.4.2 as well as 4.4. You will be fine if you just stick to the instructions I posted.
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Actually, I realized that info is inside of the general so I guess we both missed it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358

drago10029 said:
Actually, I realized that info is inside of the general so I guess we both missed it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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My step-by-step was quoted in that post. Just follow the steps and you will be rooted. It is really easy to root your phone if you have an unlocked bootloader.

kj2112 said:
Read the stickies dude. There's a complete guide in there. If you can unlock boot loader...root is easy.
If you can't unlock boot loader, no root for 4.4.2.
And no, you can't downgrade now.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Tip....the sticky you want is in general.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Also....researching for days? Come on....you're fibbing. LOL. Google "Moto x root 4.4.2"....boom.....answers.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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I will admit I hadn't read the stickies thoroughly enough and when I finally did you it didn't make too much sense to me :/ ... I found my answer last night in the general thread lol. and I wouldn't lie about something like that. I have searched for days for a root method. I didn't think/know bootloader unlocking could let you root so easy.
I came from 2 samsung phones, vibrant or skyrocket if that means anything. Thanks for responding anyway!!

Cozume said:
My step-by-step was quoted in that post. Just follow the steps and you will be rooted. It is really easy to root your phone if you have an unlocked bootloader.
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Thanks again man, I may be rooting soon. honestly, I just want try & get tmobile HD voice working and viper4android. wish their was another way b/c that's the only reason I want root.

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What's the best and easiest way to basically root Sprint 4.4.2 kitkat? I only want the Wifi Tether app running.

winn75 said:
What's the best and easiest way to basically root Sprint 4.4.2 kitkat? I only want the Wifi Tether app running.
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You'll see plenty of posts about this, but I believe unless you have a bootloader that can be unlocked, there is no root for 4.4.2

M973 said:
You'll see plenty of posts about this, but I believe unless you have a bootloader that can be unlocked, there is no root for 4.4.2
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true but all sprint Moto X's can be unlocked; it just voids your warranty.
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winn75 said:
What's the best and easiest way to basically root Sprint 4.4.2 kitkat? I only want the Wifi Tether app running.
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get a bootloader unlock code from Motorola - voids your warranty but it is the only way once you are on 4.4.2.

Yeah, when it comes to 4.4.2, unlock your bootloader via Moto's web site (which voids the warranty on non-Developer Edition phones) -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
Then root by following -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738

I used Kingo Root and it worked well but soon after restart (or randomly) it showed unroot status again, so I had to do it again. May be new versions fixed it as I have moved from Moto X

Possible to revert from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2

I want to root again but am on 4.4.2 and can't do it.
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That's been talked about very often. One of the hottest Moto x topics.
You can search xda or Google for a lot of info. A lot!
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en-C...rade+4.4.2+to+4.2.2+locked+bootloader&spell=1
I'll tell you this. If you don't do it exactly right, or take an ota anytime after, you may brick your phone. So make sure you know what what you are doing before you do it.
Sent from my cell phone telephone....

If possible just unlock your boot loader and fastboot flash what you need to root. I read on here earlier some Chinese dude had unlock codes. Not sure how legit it is but unlocking your bootloader is the safest way to root I'm my opinion
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SymbioticGenius said:
If possible just unlock your boot loader and fastboot flash what you need. I read on here earlier some Chinese dude had unlock codes. Not sure how legit it is but unlocking your bootloader is the safest way I'm my opinion
Moto X developer edition
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So far, it's been 100% legit as far as the codes working to unlock devices. The codes could stop anytime since no one knows where they are actually getting them from.

SymbioticGenius said:
If possible just unlock your boot loader and fastboot flash what you need. I read on here earlier some Chinese dude had unlock codes. Not sure how legit it is but unlocking your bootloader is the safest way I'm my opinion
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Even with an unlocked boot loader, you can not downgrade the boot loader from 4.4.2. No matter what version of the X you own, once you are on 4.4.2, you are stuck on 4.4.2.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Even with an unlocked boot loader, you can not downgrade the boot loader from 4.4.2. No matter what version of the X you own, once you are on 4.4.2, you are stuck on 4.4.2.
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Who needs to downgrade when all he was asking for was root? An unlocked bootloader will allow for you to flash a custom recovery and flash root or ROMs. If the the OPs only intention is downgrading the unlock codes are probably his best bet.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Even with an unlocked boot loader, you can not downgrade the boot loader from 4.4.2. No matter what version of the X you own, once you are on 4.4.2, you are stuck on 4.4.2.
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Yeah, but if you read the op you'd see the only reason he wants to go back is root. Thus I gave him a realistic way to achieve his goal.
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meber said:
Who needs to downgrade when all he was asking for was root? An unlocked bootloader will allow for you to flash a custom recovery and flash root or ROMs. If the the OPs only intention is downgrading the unlock codes are probably his best bet.
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For one I was responding to another poster who incorrectly told him he could just downgrade if he unlocked his boot loader. I wasn't replying to the OP, as evidenced by the fact I quoted the poster above me.
Secondly, with a locked boot loader, the only way to root was to downgrade to 4.2.2, use an exploit to root, then upgrade to 4.4. There is currently no way to root 4.4.2 without unlocking the boot loader.
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SymbioticGenius said:
Yeah, but if you read the op you'd see the only reason he wants to go back is root. Thus I gave him a realistic way to achieve his goal.
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That is the reason but his specific request was to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2. When you said unlock and fast boot flash what you need, in the context of the thread it came across as you were saying he could downgrade with an unlocked boot loader. If the OP is new to Android, rooting, or the Moto X, then he could easily misinterpret what you were saying and end up bricking his device. You have to be clear when talking about rooting and unlocking.
If I misinterpreted your post, others easily have as well. However, the OP should have taken about ten seconds and searched for his answer before starting another thread that just muddies an already confusing issue.
Nothing I post is intended to hurt your feelings or call into question your knowledge. I just don't want people to break the devices they spend hard earned money on.

@ Orange, I didn't mean to offend you if it came off that way, and you didn't offend me either.
Nonetheless I don't really see how my post could be misunderstood. The original post clearly says he wants root. I gave him a straightforward way to achieve that. Unless someone only read the title skipped everything else and read my post, which would be just silly
I did however add two words (to root) to my first post. Just in case
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SymbioticGenius said:
@ Orange, I didn't mean to offend you if it came off that way, and you didn't offend me either.
Nonetheless I don't really see how my post could be misunderstood. The original post clearly says he wants root. I gave him a straightforward way to achieve that. Unless someone only read the title skipped everything else and read my post, which would be just silly
I did however add two words (to root) to my first post. Just in case
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No offense taken.

[Q] How do I root on 4.4.2?

How do I root on 4.4.2? I have an unlocked moto x and the bootloader is unlocked

There are probably at leat 200 threads on how to do this, as well as a sticky or two. If you can't figure out how to root an unlocked phone, it's best left stock. You're asking for the basics, and if you can't figure it out, odds are you're likely to break something and have a paperweight on your hands.
Sent from my Moto X

imnuts said:
There are probably at leat 200 threads on how to do this, as well as a sticky or two. If you can't figure out how to root an unlocked phone, it's best left stock. You're asking for the basics, and if you can't figure it out, odds are you're likely to break something and have a paperweight on your hands.
Sent from my Moto X
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Im an HTC veteran I know how to do all this stuff. I can only find ways of rooting for 4.4 not 4.4.2 and the moto x toolkit wont open for me

Toss the toolkit and see this guide. Has everything you need to know. Use fastboot and learn more about this stuff...versus clicking in a toolkit.
Complete Moto X Guide
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Very easy once you do it.

GhostSoldier_US said:
Im an HTC veteran I know how to do all this stuff. I can only find ways of rooting for 4.4 not 4.4.2 and the moto x toolkit wont open for me
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Rooting an unlocked phone is the same, regardless of who the OEM is. And if you "know how to do all of this stuff", why not search and read stickies, rather than using a toolkit, which tend to cause more problems than they solve.
Sent from my Moto X

GhostSoldier_US said:
How do I root on 4.4.2? I have an unlocked moto x and the bootloader is unlocked
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flash update supersu in recovery or if you already have twrp on your x, then when in twrp and select reboot system, it will ask if you want to root phone, at which point you say yes and it will install super su before rebooting. once it boots, there will be a notification to go to play store to update super su app and install binaries. after that, you golden.

As mentioned above. Follow one of the many guides about rooting.
Here's one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-how-to-root-4-4-links-guides-t2603358
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