I've been searching and reading to no avail and have lot's of questions and thoughts needed:
Ok, so I was avoiding updating at all cost.. But as the update notifications became more frequent. I accidentally clicked it and my phone began to reboot and update. now on 4.4.2 and here are the questions...
1. Why can't I downgrade a bootloader? (so I can root and such hackery)
2. If I unlocked my bootloader would I be able to use any of the root methods?
2a. Would I be able to use the recovery mode trick here and get SU, or root or something going?
3. Is there a way to unroll an upgrade? either by recovery or some secret downgrade recovery menu? LOL, yea I'm desperate.
My goals are:
- try and root and get the amr-wb codec for tmobile activated by editing build.prop/system files/modems WHATEVER!, it's not activated.
- I miss viper4android, A LOT!
- Just regain the control of everything
I'm willing to do whatever thru Motorola to get it downgraded, I'm am comfortable with adb, flashing, rooting, editing files, and walking into dark rooms.
So please, fill me in people.
p.s. don't tell me to search.... I'm frustrated and have been researching for days.......
Read the stickies dude. There's a complete guide in there. If you can unlock boot loader...root is easy.
If you can't unlock boot loader, no root for 4.4.2.
And no, you can't downgrade now.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Tip....the sticky you want is in general.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Also....researching for days? Come on....you're fibbing. LOL. Google "Moto x root 4.4.2"....boom.....answers.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
I'll make easy read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
drago10029 said:
1. Why can't I downgrade a bootloader? (so I can root and such hackery)
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Because no one has found a way to do it so far. The partition where the bootloader is is not visible to you even if you are rooted.
drago10029 said:
2. If I unlocked my bootloader would I be able to use any of the root methods?
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No not any. You don't want to use the locked bootloader root methods if your bootloader is unlocked. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you do this to root:
Rooting a Moto X With an Unlocked Bootloader
This works to root a Moto X on 4.4.2 as well as 4.4. You will be fine if you just stick to the instructions I posted.
Cozume said:
Because no one has found a way to do it so far. The partition where the bootloader is is not visible to you even if you are rooted.
No not any. You don't want to use the locked bootloader root methods if your bootloader is unlocked. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you do this to root:
Rooting a Moto X With an Unlocked Bootloader
This works to root a Moto X on 4.4.2 as well as 4.4. You will be fine if you just stick to the instructions I posted.
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Well thanks for the response! I actually found my answer already reading through the custom recovery thread and asking there. You get a thanks anyway for your help and your post. Fyi, that post should probably be in the general section.
Cozume said:
Because no one has found a way to do it so far. The partition where the bootloader is is not visible to you even if you are rooted.
No not any. You don't want to use the locked bootloader root methods if your bootloader is unlocked. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you do this to root:
Rooting a Moto X With an Unlocked Bootloader
This works to root a Moto X on 4.4.2 as well as 4.4. You will be fine if you just stick to the instructions I posted.
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Actually, I realized that info is inside of the general so I guess we both missed it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
drago10029 said:
Actually, I realized that info is inside of the general so I guess we both missed it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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My step-by-step was quoted in that post. Just follow the steps and you will be rooted. It is really easy to root your phone if you have an unlocked bootloader.
kj2112 said:
Read the stickies dude. There's a complete guide in there. If you can unlock boot loader...root is easy.
If you can't unlock boot loader, no root for 4.4.2.
And no, you can't downgrade now.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Tip....the sticky you want is in general.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Also....researching for days? Come on....you're fibbing. LOL. Google "Moto x root 4.4.2"....boom.....answers.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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I will admit I hadn't read the stickies thoroughly enough and when I finally did you it didn't make too much sense to me :/ ... I found my answer last night in the general thread lol. and I wouldn't lie about something like that. I have searched for days for a root method. I didn't think/know bootloader unlocking could let you root so easy.
I came from 2 samsung phones, vibrant or skyrocket if that means anything. Thanks for responding anyway!!
Cozume said:
My step-by-step was quoted in that post. Just follow the steps and you will be rooted. It is really easy to root your phone if you have an unlocked bootloader.
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Thanks again man, I may be rooting soon. honestly, I just want try & get tmobile HD voice working and viper4android. wish their was another way b/c that's the only reason I want root.
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Hey Guys! Finally able to bring my Moto X home and start messing around!
So this is my first Motorola device and my head is spinning with all these root/unlocking bootloader threads.
So can anyone explain to me some of the stuff I'm going to need to know, seeing how this is my first Motorola device?
Which root method is the latest?
What is the newest OTA?
How do I unlock my bootloader?
Not a noob by any means. One explanation and I'll have it down.
Thank you in advance!!
To unlock the bootloader go here:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
To root it: unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP with fastboot, boot directly into TWRP, reboot from TWRP, it will ask if you want to root, swipe to root, finish rebooting, enjoy root.
I believe the above will work with the newest update. I wouldnt know though, im on Verizon.
mentose457 said:
To unlock the bootloader go here:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
To root it: unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP with fastboot, boot directly into TWRP, reboot from TWRP, it will ask if you want to root, swipe to root, finish rebooting, enjoy root.
I believe the above will work with the newest update. I wouldnt know though, im on Verizon.
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Awesome. Thanks for the quick response!
Can anyone confirm that?
So I got the bootloader unlocked and I'm going to flash TWRP now.
Just a quick question, has anyone been able to get rid of the development warning text in the beginning of the boot when unlocking bootloader?
eyeisdasteve said:
So I got the bootloader unlocked and I'm going to flash TWRP now.
Just a quick question, has anyone been able to get rid of the development warning text in the beginning of the boot when unlocking bootloader?
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There is a thread in the general section on your to do it.
Sent from my Moto X.
mentose457 said:
There is a thread in the general section on your to do it.
Sent from my Moto X.
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Do you know the name of the thread? I looked and couldn't find it.
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Search for "change boot logo".
Sent from my Moto X.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445150
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mentose457 said:
Search for "change boot logo".
Sent from my Moto X.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445150
Sent from my Moto X.
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Perfect. I was looking for the wrong thin that's why!! Thank you again!! :laugh:
What's the best and easiest way to basically root Sprint 4.4.2 kitkat? I only want the Wifi Tether app running.
winn75 said:
What's the best and easiest way to basically root Sprint 4.4.2 kitkat? I only want the Wifi Tether app running.
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You'll see plenty of posts about this, but I believe unless you have a bootloader that can be unlocked, there is no root for 4.4.2
M973 said:
You'll see plenty of posts about this, but I believe unless you have a bootloader that can be unlocked, there is no root for 4.4.2
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true but all sprint Moto X's can be unlocked; it just voids your warranty.
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winn75 said:
What's the best and easiest way to basically root Sprint 4.4.2 kitkat? I only want the Wifi Tether app running.
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get a bootloader unlock code from Motorola - voids your warranty but it is the only way once you are on 4.4.2.
Yeah, when it comes to 4.4.2, unlock your bootloader via Moto's web site (which voids the warranty on non-Developer Edition phones) -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
Then root by following -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
I used Kingo Root and it worked well but soon after restart (or randomly) it showed unroot status again, so I had to do it again. May be new versions fixed it as I have moved from Moto X
How do I root on 4.4.2? I have an unlocked moto x and the bootloader is unlocked
There are probably at leat 200 threads on how to do this, as well as a sticky or two. If you can't figure out how to root an unlocked phone, it's best left stock. You're asking for the basics, and if you can't figure it out, odds are you're likely to break something and have a paperweight on your hands.
Sent from my Moto X
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There are probably at leat 200 threads on how to do this, as well as a sticky or two. If you can't figure out how to root an unlocked phone, it's best left stock. You're asking for the basics, and if you can't figure it out, odds are you're likely to break something and have a paperweight on your hands.
Sent from my Moto X
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Im an HTC veteran I know how to do all this stuff. I can only find ways of rooting for 4.4 not 4.4.2 and the moto x toolkit wont open for me
Toss the toolkit and see this guide. Has everything you need to know. Use fastboot and learn more about this stuff...versus clicking in a toolkit.
Complete Moto X Guide
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Very easy once you do it.
GhostSoldier_US said:
Im an HTC veteran I know how to do all this stuff. I can only find ways of rooting for 4.4 not 4.4.2 and the moto x toolkit wont open for me
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Rooting an unlocked phone is the same, regardless of who the OEM is. And if you "know how to do all of this stuff", why not search and read stickies, rather than using a toolkit, which tend to cause more problems than they solve.
Sent from my Moto X
GhostSoldier_US said:
How do I root on 4.4.2? I have an unlocked moto x and the bootloader is unlocked
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flash update supersu in recovery or if you already have twrp on your x, then when in twrp and select reboot system, it will ask if you want to root phone, at which point you say yes and it will install super su before rebooting. once it boots, there will be a notification to go to play store to update super su app and install binaries. after that, you golden.
As mentioned above. Follow one of the many guides about rooting.
Here's one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-how-to-root-4-4-links-guides-t2603358
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Please excuse my ignorance on this topic. My rooted moto x broke and I just bought a used one. The new phone is running 4.4.2 baseband MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.031.111.OOR KERNAL 3.4.43-G27DE6975.
The last time I rooted my moto withe the cracked screened I restored back to the pre camera updata and then eventually proceeded with the slapmymoto.
Can this still be done on my current phone. I have read some conflicting threads on this
Thanks!!!
4.4.2 cannot downgrade please don't try or you will 100% brick your X. What carrier are you on?
A2Trip said:
4.4.2 cannot downgrade please don't try or you will 100% brick your X. What carrier are you on?
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AT&T
Dont think AT&T can have unlocked bootloaders but that's easiest way to gain root access. But in development should be an exploit for 4.4.X I'll post a link. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
A2Trip said:
Dont think AT&T can have unlocked bootloaders but that's easiest way to gain root access. But in development should be an exploit for 4.4.X I'll post a link. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
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Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
Okay so UL BL is available for AT&T? Unlock on motos site first and get code. Once unlocked you can flash TWRP or CWM through fastboot reboot to recovery and when you reboot system it will root for you. Boom! lol
pooler00 said:
Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
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If you haven't already, check on the thread titled "China Middleman Back??" in the general sub-forum. He is selling bootloader-unlock codes for AT&T and Verizon devices. He may or may not have your code, but if not you get refunded...so no risk.
If he does, it will be absolutely fantastic for you because you won't have to rely on these exploits, and will gain permanent root-ability.
@A2Trip is completely correct in that you WILL brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade.
The middleman is your only hope.
Good Luck :good:
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Okay so UL BL is available for AT&T? Unlock on motos site first and get code. Once unlocked you can flash TWRP or CWM through fastboot reboot to recovery and when you reboot system it will root for you. Boom! lol
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No. At least not from the official Moto site. Both AT&T and Verizon FORBID Moto from giving out unlock codes for their branded phones.
Got it. USC got love...that sucks.
A2Trip said:
Got it. USC got love...that sucks.
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Agreed.
There IS a "temp-root" method already available for 4.4.2 (4.4.3+ patches it). It's the PIE exploit.
BUT!!! It is temp-only, does not allow write access to /system, does not disable write-protect, and the exploit must be run again (from ADB, so you must attach to a PC) each time you reboot...
So not very useful at all :/
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pooler00 said:
Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
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You didn't have the BL unlocked if you were using SlapMyMoto - you were using a write-protect-disable exploit. BIG difference. If at any point you would have updated to 4.4.2+, you would have permanently lost root and write-protect-disable. Bootloader unlock is permanent. None of the exploits are.
Also, I KNOW someone is going to say it: Questions belong in the Q&A forum, not General. Your thread will probably be moved by a moderator..... In the future, be sure to post in the correct forums.
You're only option that I'm aware of would be pie root ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 ). It's a tethered root though so rebooting your phone will lose root access. Also no system write.
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You're only option that I'm aware of would be pie root ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 ). It's a tethered root though so rebooting your phone will lose root access. Also no system write.
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??? Already stated in post #4 AND post #9
I have decided I want to unlock since it's hard for me to claim warranty anyway but I never owned a motorola device before and reading some threads on other motorola device forums, some precautions need to be taken as it's not easy to return to stock and it is possible to mess up the imei. There is also no stock rom for my phone (xt1092)available
sorry this thread was meant to be posted in QA
Unlocking the bootloader is safe and easy. You can do it on Motorola's website. The only thing to consider is that it will wipe the device, putting it back to factory condition.
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Rooting, custom recoveries, and installing ROMs and mods is where things get tricky.
verizon version
borxnx said:
Unlocking the bootloader is safe and easy. You can do it on Motorola's website. The only thing to consider is that it will wipe the device, putting it back to factory condition.
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Rooting, custom recoveries, and installing ROMs and mods is where things get tricky.
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can i unlock the bootloader even if my phone is xt1096 verizon? i have only read you can do it with the xt1095 (pure) bought it off contract though its sim unlocked
erik_ranzig said:
can i unlock the bootloader even if my phone is xt1096 verizon? i have only read you can do it with the xt1095 (pure) bought it off contract though its sim unlocked
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The verizon model can't be unlocked.