I have decided I want to unlock since it's hard for me to claim warranty anyway but I never owned a motorola device before and reading some threads on other motorola device forums, some precautions need to be taken as it's not easy to return to stock and it is possible to mess up the imei. There is also no stock rom for my phone (xt1092)available
sorry this thread was meant to be posted in QA
Unlocking the bootloader is safe and easy. You can do it on Motorola's website. The only thing to consider is that it will wipe the device, putting it back to factory condition.
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Rooting, custom recoveries, and installing ROMs and mods is where things get tricky.
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borxnx said:
Unlocking the bootloader is safe and easy. You can do it on Motorola's website. The only thing to consider is that it will wipe the device, putting it back to factory condition.
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Rooting, custom recoveries, and installing ROMs and mods is where things get tricky.
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can i unlock the bootloader even if my phone is xt1096 verizon? i have only read you can do it with the xt1095 (pure) bought it off contract though its sim unlocked
erik_ranzig said:
can i unlock the bootloader even if my phone is xt1096 verizon? i have only read you can do it with the xt1095 (pure) bought it off contract though its sim unlocked
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The verizon model can't be unlocked.
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Hi!
I just got this phone today (Finally!) and i love it, but i want to get rid of all the bloatware from installed there by my carrier company, so i need to root the phone, right? I'd also love to flash ROM when we finally get some...
But my question here is... How birckeable is the xt890? Are all the rooting methods posted here safe?
Do we have any un-brick methods such as with NVflash?
Thanks!
Charlie.igg said:
Hi!
I just got this phone today (Finally!) and i love it, but i want to get rid of all the bloatware from installed there by my carrier company, so i need to root the phone, right? I'd also love to flash ROM when we finally get some...
But my question here is... How birckeable is the xt890? Are all the rooting methods posted here safe?
Do we have any un-brick methods such as with NVflash?
Thanks!
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Yes, you need to root to remove bloat included in your ~/system/app/ and ~/system/vendor/app/ folders. Easiet way is flashing a different fastboot XML file to a bloat-free carrier (like Retail EU or Retail GB).
As long as you do not go out of your way to remove both the bootloader and the bootloader backup file you won't be bricking.
We have plenty of fastboot restore files, but many require you to be unlocked bootloader to use. Honestly, I see people "brick" here from time to time and its because they never unlocked their bootloader.
None of the rooting methods will brick you or have a risk of it. Unlocking it is the least painful way to do so, motofail2go requires button combos and can be confusing.
We do have a ROM, but the guy posting (papi92) resides over at DroidRZR.com, if you want to test it I would PM him here or whatever you want.
We unbrick with fastboot. I have never broken fastboot and don't want to try
Enjoy your new device, remember though that Questions go into the Q&A forum.
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Yes, you need to root to remove bloat included in your ~/system/app/ and ~/system/vendor/app/ folders. Easiet way is flashing a different fastboot XML file to a bloat-free carrier (like Retail EU or Retail GB).
As long as you do not go out of your way to remove both the bootloader and the bootloader backup file you won't be bricking.
We have plenty of fastboot restore files, but many require you to be unlocked bootloader to use. Honestly, I see people "brick" here from time to time and its because they never unlocked their bootloader.
None of the rooting methods will brick you or have a risk of it. Unlocking it is the least painful way to do so, motofail2go requires button combos and can be confusing.
We do have a ROM, but the guy posting (papi92) resides over at DroidRZR.com, if you want to test it I would PM him here or whatever you want.
We unbrick with fastboot. I have never broken fastboot and don't want to try
Enjoy your new device, remember though that Questions go into the Q&A forum.
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Thank you very much for your reply.
I'm already rooted and have removed all bloatware, and are super happy with the device.
I was however unable to unlock my bootloader, this because when I enter the IMEI-related code corresponding to my phone on the Motorola webpage, it tells me that my device is not a candidate to get its bootloader unlocked.
This is why i had to root with Motofail2go. Im guessing not having my bootloader unlocked will be a big obstacle in the future when new ROMs start coming out. is that right=?
You should definitely grap Mattlgroffs Root Keeper Port for the i! If your BL isn't unlockable, you will lose root as soon as you get an OTA Update. The new OTA's are NOT rootable with Motofail2go!
Sent from my XT890
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34248515
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HSD-Pilot said:
You should definitely grap Mattlgroffs Root Keeper Port for the i! If your BL isn't unlockable, you will lose root as soon as you get an OTA Update. The new OTA's are NOT rootable with Motofail2go!
Sent from my XT890
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34248515
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Ok! thanks for the tip!
I've been searching and reading to no avail and have lot's of questions and thoughts needed:
Ok, so I was avoiding updating at all cost.. But as the update notifications became more frequent. I accidentally clicked it and my phone began to reboot and update. now on 4.4.2 and here are the questions...
1. Why can't I downgrade a bootloader? (so I can root and such hackery)
2. If I unlocked my bootloader would I be able to use any of the root methods?
2a. Would I be able to use the recovery mode trick here and get SU, or root or something going?
3. Is there a way to unroll an upgrade? either by recovery or some secret downgrade recovery menu? LOL, yea I'm desperate.
My goals are:
- try and root and get the amr-wb codec for tmobile activated by editing build.prop/system files/modems WHATEVER!, it's not activated.
- I miss viper4android, A LOT!
- Just regain the control of everything
I'm willing to do whatever thru Motorola to get it downgraded, I'm am comfortable with adb, flashing, rooting, editing files, and walking into dark rooms.
So please, fill me in people.
p.s. don't tell me to search.... I'm frustrated and have been researching for days.......
Read the stickies dude. There's a complete guide in there. If you can unlock boot loader...root is easy.
If you can't unlock boot loader, no root for 4.4.2.
And no, you can't downgrade now.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Tip....the sticky you want is in general.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Also....researching for days? Come on....you're fibbing. LOL. Google "Moto x root 4.4.2"....boom.....answers.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
I'll make easy read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
drago10029 said:
1. Why can't I downgrade a bootloader? (so I can root and such hackery)
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Because no one has found a way to do it so far. The partition where the bootloader is is not visible to you even if you are rooted.
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2. If I unlocked my bootloader would I be able to use any of the root methods?
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No not any. You don't want to use the locked bootloader root methods if your bootloader is unlocked. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you do this to root:
Rooting a Moto X With an Unlocked Bootloader
This works to root a Moto X on 4.4.2 as well as 4.4. You will be fine if you just stick to the instructions I posted.
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Because no one has found a way to do it so far. The partition where the bootloader is is not visible to you even if you are rooted.
No not any. You don't want to use the locked bootloader root methods if your bootloader is unlocked. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you do this to root:
Rooting a Moto X With an Unlocked Bootloader
This works to root a Moto X on 4.4.2 as well as 4.4. You will be fine if you just stick to the instructions I posted.
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Well thanks for the response! I actually found my answer already reading through the custom recovery thread and asking there. You get a thanks anyway for your help and your post. Fyi, that post should probably be in the general section.
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Because no one has found a way to do it so far. The partition where the bootloader is is not visible to you even if you are rooted.
No not any. You don't want to use the locked bootloader root methods if your bootloader is unlocked. If you have an unlocked bootloader, you do this to root:
Rooting a Moto X With an Unlocked Bootloader
This works to root a Moto X on 4.4.2 as well as 4.4. You will be fine if you just stick to the instructions I posted.
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Actually, I realized that info is inside of the general so I guess we both missed it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
drago10029 said:
Actually, I realized that info is inside of the general so I guess we both missed it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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My step-by-step was quoted in that post. Just follow the steps and you will be rooted. It is really easy to root your phone if you have an unlocked bootloader.
kj2112 said:
Read the stickies dude. There's a complete guide in there. If you can unlock boot loader...root is easy.
If you can't unlock boot loader, no root for 4.4.2.
And no, you can't downgrade now.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Tip....the sticky you want is in general.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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Also....researching for days? Come on....you're fibbing. LOL. Google "Moto x root 4.4.2"....boom.....answers.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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I will admit I hadn't read the stickies thoroughly enough and when I finally did you it didn't make too much sense to me :/ ... I found my answer last night in the general thread lol. and I wouldn't lie about something like that. I have searched for days for a root method. I didn't think/know bootloader unlocking could let you root so easy.
I came from 2 samsung phones, vibrant or skyrocket if that means anything. Thanks for responding anyway!!
Cozume said:
My step-by-step was quoted in that post. Just follow the steps and you will be rooted. It is really easy to root your phone if you have an unlocked bootloader.
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Thanks again man, I may be rooting soon. honestly, I just want try & get tmobile HD voice working and viper4android. wish their was another way b/c that's the only reason I want root.
Please excuse my ignorance on this topic. My rooted moto x broke and I just bought a used one. The new phone is running 4.4.2 baseband MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.031.111.OOR KERNAL 3.4.43-G27DE6975.
The last time I rooted my moto withe the cracked screened I restored back to the pre camera updata and then eventually proceeded with the slapmymoto.
Can this still be done on my current phone. I have read some conflicting threads on this
Thanks!!!
4.4.2 cannot downgrade please don't try or you will 100% brick your X. What carrier are you on?
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4.4.2 cannot downgrade please don't try or you will 100% brick your X. What carrier are you on?
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AT&T
Dont think AT&T can have unlocked bootloaders but that's easiest way to gain root access. But in development should be an exploit for 4.4.X I'll post a link. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
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Dont think AT&T can have unlocked bootloaders but that's easiest way to gain root access. But in development should be an exploit for 4.4.X I'll post a link. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
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Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
Okay so UL BL is available for AT&T? Unlock on motos site first and get code. Once unlocked you can flash TWRP or CWM through fastboot reboot to recovery and when you reboot system it will root for you. Boom! lol
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Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
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If you haven't already, check on the thread titled "China Middleman Back??" in the general sub-forum. He is selling bootloader-unlock codes for AT&T and Verizon devices. He may or may not have your code, but if not you get refunded...so no risk.
If he does, it will be absolutely fantastic for you because you won't have to rely on these exploits, and will gain permanent root-ability.
@A2Trip is completely correct in that you WILL brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade.
The middleman is your only hope.
Good Luck :good:
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Okay so UL BL is available for AT&T? Unlock on motos site first and get code. Once unlocked you can flash TWRP or CWM through fastboot reboot to recovery and when you reboot system it will root for you. Boom! lol
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No. At least not from the official Moto site. Both AT&T and Verizon FORBID Moto from giving out unlock codes for their branded phones.
Got it. USC got love...that sucks.
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Got it. USC got love...that sucks.
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Agreed.
There IS a "temp-root" method already available for 4.4.2 (4.4.3+ patches it). It's the PIE exploit.
BUT!!! It is temp-only, does not allow write access to /system, does not disable write-protect, and the exploit must be run again (from ADB, so you must attach to a PC) each time you reboot...
So not very useful at all :/
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pooler00 said:
Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
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You didn't have the BL unlocked if you were using SlapMyMoto - you were using a write-protect-disable exploit. BIG difference. If at any point you would have updated to 4.4.2+, you would have permanently lost root and write-protect-disable. Bootloader unlock is permanent. None of the exploits are.
Also, I KNOW someone is going to say it: Questions belong in the Q&A forum, not General. Your thread will probably be moved by a moderator..... In the future, be sure to post in the correct forums.
You're only option that I'm aware of would be pie root ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 ). It's a tethered root though so rebooting your phone will lose root access. Also no system write.
gunvalk said:
You're only option that I'm aware of would be pie root ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 ). It's a tethered root though so rebooting your phone will lose root access. Also no system write.
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??? Already stated in post #4 AND post #9
I have a N920p Sprint Note 5. It had 5.1.1 i rooted it and flashed 6.0.1 stock rom with Odin. I then rooted that and have flashed DarthStalker and MoAR. I had Moar on it and had someone remote unlock it. It wouldnt accept my tmobile sim still. It wasnt saying Invalid sim just wouldnt connect to any network, so I reflashed stock rom with odin and had it remote unlocked again. Suposedly its unlocked right now but when Tmobile sim is inserted it will not connect to network. Ive tried changing the mode and multiple APN settings. My question is if a phone is unlocked why does flashing the phone with a different rom relock it. and can anyone tell me what I AM DOING WRONG. I contacted sprint about having them unlock the phone before I had it remote unlocked and they said that they unlocked it but it would take 48 hours I waited and called back and the new rep said phone as already unlocked but it would still say invalid sim when i inserted my sim card. Pulling my hair out here. HELP?!
Friend. Flash stock 6.0, root it, recovery, flash lamlazy rom, insert your tmobile sim...then get back with ur result
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Make sure oem unlock is enabled
kumuyi said:
Friend. Flash stock 6.0, root it, recovery, flash lamlazy rom, insert your tmobile sim...then get back with ur result
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Make sure oem unlock is enabled
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once i flash new rom I will loose the remote unlock and phone will go back to invalid sim
Apathy772 said:
once i flash new rom I will loose the remote unlock and phone will go back to invalid sim
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Will i used sprint and didn't face any of such. I only did what i asked you to do and I'm in Africa
kumuyi said:
Will i used sprint and didn't face any of such. I only did what i asked you to do and I'm in Africa
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im in america and it will relock my phone
Apathy772 said:
im in america and it will relock my phone
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Well then, do as i did, sell it, and buy n920c. Save ur self the hassle
I picked up the Best Buy unlocked version. Which I assumed was the Android One version(?) but I'm not seeing anything about it on this phone. Anyways, I'm not familiar with some of the lingo for this phone in the threads, so I'm not sure what to look for compatibility-wise. I came from the S9+ so I have to figure all that out. Is it bootloader unlockable, and rootable? Is it the A1 version? Is there a benefit to changing the firmware to A1(if that's even possible, running 8.1)?
Thanks for all the input.
Android One has the badge or logo on the back. You can use Motorola's website to definitively determine if your phone call be unlocked. Typically, the one from Amazon isn't.
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Android One has the badge or logo on the back. You can use Motorola's website to definitively determine if your phone call be unlocked. Typically, the one from Amazon isn't.
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To be clear, you're talking about the bootloader? The phone itself is the best buy unlocked version. I really would like to flash Android One on it, as long as everything is working correctly.
I don't know of anything else besides "unlock of bootloader".
Just be aware, there's no return from unlock of bootloader. You do that process, safety net is broken and modified flag is tripped. There are no factory signed official images provided by Lenovo. If all steps are followed to a T from these forums, phone will always be functional. You have ways around safety net via Magisk if Google Pay is important to you.
Neffy27 said:
I don't know of anything else besides "unlock of bootloader".
Just be aware, there's no return from unlock of bootloader. You do that process, safety net is broken and modified flag is tripped. There are no factory signed official images provided by Lenovo. If all steps are followed to a T from these forums, phone will always be functional. You have ways around safety net via Magisk if Google Pay is important to you.
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I meant as in sim unlocked. Do I need the bootloader unlocked in order to root or flash A1? If I unlock it will I still receive updates and function a normal if I keep it stock rom?
I have been trying to find up to date directions to unlock the bootloader on my phone with absolutely no luck. No where does it say a compatible unlock to work with the new 8.1 software. I would love to install A1 on my sim unlocked version of my x4. I can't find an up to date version to root or anything. It's so annoying that I am about to just return this phone and buy something else. The development for it on here is ridiculous. The communication and instructions are just as bad.
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I have been trying to find up to date directions to unlock the bootloader on my phone with absolutely no luck. No where does it say a compatible unlock to work with the new 8.1 software. I would love to install A1 on my sim unlocked version of my x4. I can't find an up to date version to root or anything. It's so annoying that I am about to just return this phone and buy something else. The development for it on here is ridiculous. The communication and instructions are just as bad.
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You're obviously not looking hard enough and clearly your first time with an A/B partition phone. Motorola has their website to unlock the bootloader. One quick Google, first result: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Install twrp, and you can flash root of your choice. Magisk or SuperSU. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/how-to/guide-how-to-root-moto-x4-install-twrp-t3806460
Not sure what you mean by ridiculous. A few people have been hard at work to give us 3 custom ROMs already.
Not to mention the instructions to get a specific stock firmware flashed.
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I meant as in sim unlocked. Do I need the bootloader unlocked in order to root or flash A1? If I unlock it will I still receive updates and function a normal if I keep it stock rom?
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The phone will work with any sim. Though recommend you verify the bands the phone is compatible with the carrier of choice. Unlocking bootloader as it's been said multiple times in these forums, breaks OTAs. Topjohnwu has guide around it:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md
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Or just then the phone.
Neffy27 said:
You're obviously not looking hard enough and clearly your first time with an A/B partition phone. Motorola has their website to unlock the bootloader. One quick Google, first result: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Install twrp, and you can flash root of your choice. Magisk or SuperSU. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/how-to/guide-how-to-root-moto-x4-install-twrp-t3806460
Not sure what you mean by ridiculous. A few people have been hard at work to give us 3 custom ROMs already.
Not to mention the instructions to get a specific stock firmware flashed.
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The phone will work with any sim. Though recommend you verify the bands the phone is compatible with the carrier of choice. Unlocking bootloader as it's been said multiple times in these forums, breaks OTAs. Topjohnwu has guide around it:
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/blob/master/docs/tips.md
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Or just then the phone.
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I'm not finding anything saying it's compatible with certain build numbers and/or 8.1 and I'm not looking to brick my phone which seems like people are. I can do a quick Google search but it's not going to say what's compatible.
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I'm not finding anything saying it's compatible with certain build numbers and/or 8.1 and I'm not looking to brick my phone which seems like people are. I can do a quick Google search but it's not going to say what's compatible.
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FWIW, I picked up a carrier unlocked Moto X4 from Best Buy this morning and I was able to get a bootloader unlock code from the Motorola site, install Magisk & restore apps via TitaniumBackup. YMMV.
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I'm not finding anything saying it's compatible with certain build numbers and/or 8.1 and I'm not looking to brick my phone which seems like people are. I can do a quick Google search but it's not going to say what's compatible.
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I'm not understanding what you're saying. Is what compatible? The build number is firmware related which is what I'm assuming you want to switch, between firmwares.