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So I just found a leaked screen shot of Verizon's upgrade schedule to ICS!
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/verizon-ic-update-schedule-leaked/
So the HTC Rezound should get the OTA next week on May 9th. The RAZR and RAZR MAXX will be getting the OTA in three weeks. But no mention of the Bionic... Oh yea, they decided to give us the .904 update while they finalized ICS for the newer phones. We just got shafted again.
Then again, its tough to know what is actually going on because they have to keep everything confidential. I doubt this would be case but if VZW and MOTO were having issues with ICS on the Bionic, I would have no problem giving them more time to make it right. But from what we've seen, it doesn't appear to be that innocent.
You do realize that we are a low priority because the phone isn't selling well, right? RAZR's the front-runner, making it a priority. We'll get ours by July, if we're lucky.
And yes, I am being a little pessimistic, but Motorola and Verizon need to step up their game already. Moto's making too many devices and Verizon's forcing bloat too much. That's what is slowing us down.
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I don't understand what is really taking that long. Development will continue on the latest and greatest but that doesn't mean we should get the shaft. I picked the bionic over the thunderbolt because I like the slightly thinner phone and longer screen even though it cost more.didn't think I would be buying a dead phone in terms of development. I should have just got the razr
I have Rooted 904 update Safestrap dual boot eclipse 2.2
My view is the Bionic is a phone they would prefer to forget. The Razrs are the hot phones so they get the priority. Maybe I woukd complain much more without ICS ROMs available.
It's interesting that on Moto's site the RAZR's are all listed as ICS upgradeable but the Bionic is not.??
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My view is the Bionic is a phone they would prefer to forget. The Razrs are the hot phones so they get the priority. Maybe I woukd complain much more without ICS ROMs available.
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There are ICS ROMs available for the Bionic. I've held off on flashing one because its my understanding that they are unstable and have missing features. Please correct me if i'm wrong.
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It's interesting that on Moto's site the RAZR's are all listed as ICS upgradeable but the Bionic is not.??
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Yes it is:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...and-Services/Mobile-Phones/DROID-BIONIC-US-EN
"ANDROID 4.0 (ICS) UPGRADEABLE: WE ALL SCREAM!
Ice cream is cool. Ice Cream Sandwich is HOT. Needless to say, DROID RAZR is Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) upgradeable. You can find all the latest software upgrade news in our Motorola Support Forums. "
That is on the top of the bionics feature page.
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it would be nice if they would just let us have it.
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"ANDROID 4.0 (ICS) UPGRADEABLE: WE ALL SCREAM!
Ice cream is cool. Ice Cream Sandwich is HOT. Needless to say, DROID RAZR is Ice Cream Sandwich (Android 4.0) upgradeable. You can find all the latest software upgrade news in our Motorola Support Forums. "
That is on the top of the bionics feature page.
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That's a pretty big oversight, mentioning the RAZR on the Bionic page like that... Now is that the mobile site only, or is it on the full site too?
That's the full site. It says RAZR. Read the spec's on all the phones and Bionic does not have 'ICS Upgradeable'. I think we're getting swept under the rug.
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That's the full site. It says RAZR. Read the spec's on all the phones and Bionic does not have 'ICS Upgradeable'. I think we're getting swept under the rug.
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****ing awesome
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If we get swept under the rug I will demand a new phone. Part of the reason I bought this phone is because it was going to be updated with ics. I believe them reniging (sp?) on their word is sufficient reason for a phone replacement on vzw.
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jmath679 said:
If we get swept under the rug I will demand a new phone. Part of the reason I bought this phone is because it was going to be updated with ics. I believe them reniging (sp?) on their word is sufficient reason for a phone replacement on vzw.
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Agreed
Went to Moto website and under specs for Bionic it says android 2.3 upgradeable to 4.0 so maybe u miss read :x
Edit: Heres Link http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...obile-Phones/ci.DROID-BIONIC-US-EN.alt#anchor
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Went to Moto website and under specs for Bionic it says android 2.3 upgradeable to 4.0 so maybe u miss read :x
Edit: Heres Link http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...obile-Phones/ci.DROID-BIONIC-US-EN.alt#anchor
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Saw the same thing. Dunno where people are getting that we're not getting ICS from. If the thunderbolt and INC2 are getting it, that would be a travesty for the Bionic not to.
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look under the features section of the bionic, it says Droid razor. I'm think we'll be lucky to get ICS by late summer/ early fall.
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look under the features section of the bionic, it says Droid razor. I'm think we'll be lucky to get ICS by late summer/ early fall.
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if you click on the motorola support forums link where it says that it takes u to a page explaining which devices are getting ics and the bionic among others is on that list but yeah :/ it will prolly be a while. maybe we can get lucky with cheesecake.
Guys why is this even a topic. It's been confirmed we are getting official ICS by several sources along with moto. The ICS source code was released a little over a month ago, that helped out the devs. We have a solid device for the price and we have devs good enough to keep us happy and get us through until mid to late summer when we get the real thing.
ICS source was released 6 months ago. That doesn't help matters since we don't have an official release, an unlocked bootloader, or a real ICS kernel, however.
Look here! http://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra What do you think? Video Encoding/decoding and H/w bugs can now solved? ???
As a lot of developers said, this is for linux, not for android so it's useless
Oh my God... please use the search button! Please! This is not for android, but for Linux! If you read the date of publishing you can understand that it is impossible that our developers don't know it, and do not open a new thread for this in developement section!
There is an identical topic in general created today...
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I'm sorry, i've post this on the wrong section! Sorryyyy please, close this!
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Android is linux based os for mobile devices
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wtf... im confused... isnt android linux? O_O
I'd say its definitly time for fully working ICS but who knows what NVIDIA thinks about it... .
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Android is linux based os for mobile devices
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You just answered yourself sir
Linux BASED
My ubuntu binaries doesn't work on Android so don't expect Linux blobs will work
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owain, i thought galaxy s2 had ics already, if so, why not port the drivers?
skylinegt77 said:
owain, i thought galaxy s2 had ics already, if so, why not port the drivers?
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It's not the same hardware...
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It's not the same hardware...
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ohhh. thought at least video and graphics processors where the same
At this moment, none of the three handsets with Tegra 2 (LG P990/P999/SU660, Motorola ME860/MB860, Samsung GT-I9103) have official ICS ROMs.
At the same time, these 3 manufacturers have rolled out ICS updates for other devices, so it's not like they don't know how to work with ICS.
Feel free to draw your own conclusions on who should be blamed for this frustrating situation of our devices. I know, though, who NOT to buy from again (hint: it's not LG).
And before someone say T2 tablets getting ICS, tablets != phones. I don't think any T2 tablets even have a 3G radio, so the chip can be of a completely different SKU and hence incompatible binaries.
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At this moment, none of the three handsets with Tegra 2 (LG P990/P999/SU660, Motorola ME860/MB860, Samsung GT-I9103) have official ICS ROMs.
At the same time, these 3 manufacturers have rolled out ICS updates for other devices, so it's not like they don't know how to work with ICS.
Feel free to draw your own conclusions on who should be blamed for this frustrating situation of our devices. I know, though, who NOT to buy from again (hint: it's not LG).
And before someone say T2 tablets getting ICS, tablets != phones. I don't think any T2 tablets even have a 3G radio, so the chip can be of a completely different SKU and hence incompatible binaries.
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Yes it is LG
If it was nvidia I would not typing this on a tegra device
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lol owain, you're silly
but I reckon that even if someone can grab the ICS build of the newer LG phones (Lge/Lge2/4x?) that without the right T2 binaries...its pretty much useless?
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lol owain, you're silly
but I reckon that even if someone can grab the ICS build of the newer LG phones (Lge/Lge2/4x?) that without the right T2 binaries...its pretty much useless?
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Why ?
Nvidia probably gave the sources to lg (and other companies) before the public ics release
It is not up to nvidia to update the device to ICS it is up to lg but they are busier with newer phones
You would do the same if you were owner of lg it is about making money not about supporting old devices
Priority 1 new phones
Priority 2 software updates for the new phones
Priority 3 support for old phones
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nah I just like your general attitude towards building ROMS for this phone! its great to have a good community right?
I agree though with your logic...its just a truth that I choose not to accept since I did buy this phone nay a year ago for a hefty sum of money. I just want LG to give you guys the sources so we can all have fun and leave them alone (and get me that ICS fun)
Yeah I don't know why LG don't just "leak" the ics testing rom for O2X which I'm sure does exist in the deepest realm of LG.
That way it would get us lot of their back, they could concentrate on the newer phones, and nobody would care about the official release of ICS for O2X anymore
As someone who has had several LG phones I can safely say that once they have released a phone LG tends to stop giving a crap about it.
I think it's not in the LG itself, because no one with a Tegra 2 is not received ICS. Samsung has updated all the models, but it has not updated the model Galaxy R, but we know how well does the Samsung firmware! I think there is some sort of a different problem!
Nvidia probably gave the sources to lg (and other companies) before the public ics release
It is not up to nvidia to update the device to ICS it is up to lg but they are busier with newer phones
You would do the same if you were owner of lg it is about making money not about supporting old devices
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It depends on the quality of the company, after a very long supported samsung Galaxy S, even when the market was a Galaxy S2.
The company realized the essence of Samsung Android devices, such as to make them attractive to buyers - do quality support. Other companies do not understand this, because the coolest gadget, without the support - a piece of plastic!
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Yeah I don't know why LG don't just "leak" the ics testing rom for O2X which I'm sure does exist in the deepest realm of LG.
That way it would get us lot of their back, they could concentrate on the newer phones, and nobody would care about the official release of ICS for O2X anymore
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I asked Paul from Modaco to get a leak from his LG internal source.
Unfortunately there is nothing to leak yet...
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any news of when this is coming?
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any news of when this is coming?
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Bump? *hopeful*
Before the end of the year - but they don't say which year. I expect the Razr M might get it before the i, as there is talk of soak tests. Being Intel may delay things a little but no one has had any conformation as yet. Not much help
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I don't think Intel delaying anything. Intel published x86 jelly bean image early September.
Jelly bean for x86 is ready... It's now only a mater of Motorola to integrate it.
http://www.zdnet.com/intel-ports-an...86-phones-but-no-rollout-date-set-7000004200/
http://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j...t4C4DQ&usg=AFQjCNEzG6fzwICUwUCtYP0FBvvrGSDbkA
I didn't mean Intel themselves may cause a delay more being an Intel phone may delay things against the S4 razr m. Not seen the info in your link so looks promising. Thanks for posting that.
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There are server logs which show 4.1.1 for the Razr I so it is currently being tested. I expect it within a few weeks.
Vistaus said:
There are server logs which show 4.1.1 for the Razr I so it is currently being tested. I expect it within a few weeks.
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A new 4.1.2 log showed up today and its definitely a testing build... I'd say it's possible for the end of the year for an update, but it's more reasonable to say early 2013.
the razr m just got jelly bean...
I've asked about soak test buy got nothing bk
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GOOD NEWS! - Reply from Motorola Brazil
I just spoke with Motorola Brazil and they representant just told me that Motorola is already updating the devices razr I and HD to jelly bean, in a random way.
I asked confirmation and he confirmed as we can see in the print screen (it is in portuguese, if someone does not believe, try to translate in google translator).
Hopefully, Motorola will surprise us.
Cara na boa. Ta meio enrolado esse update.
We wait a long period for this. Is this moment nothing in OTA. Wait...Wait..
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Heitor Amat said:
I just spoke with Motorola Brazil and they representant just told me that Motorola is already updating the devices razr I and HD to jelly bean, in a random way.
I asked confirmation and he confirmed as we can see in the print screen (it is in portuguese, if someone does not believe, try to translate in google translator).
Hopefully, Motorola will surprise us.
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quick translation:
- how may i help?
- is there any precise date you can give me for the release of JB for the razr I?
- Motorola has already made it available for this model, however, it is being done in batches OTA, i ask that you wait for the notification in your device
- for the razr I? really?
- or the razr HD?
- JB has been made available for the razr I and razr HD, it is predicted that it will be available for all of the razr line till march/2013
- but i see no one talking about JB being available for the razr I online, only for the HD
- when i try it myself, it says there's no update
- is there a faster way? through legitimate channels?
- as i said it is being done in batches OTA and is not available on the motorola web site
- i understand
Android Police article
Not that most people here are really bothered since you use the custom ROMs, but now this means there will be an official Jelly Bean template to make a sweet CM JB ROM off of.
Hopefully they won't cancel the upgrade.
Do you think we will get 4.1 after 4.2 is released?
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Prob 4.1
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I don't trust moto.
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I don't trust moto.
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Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.
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Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.
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I ordered already other device, not sure if I'll 100% move to it, but I plan to get rid of moto after that happened with my previous device motorola photon. I couldn't wait more and decided to try droid 4. After this politics I plan to go out of moto once I'll find good device. Hope, that found already.
I'm posting this from a D4 on Jellybeans but I'm still glad to hear this. I think it will go a long way towards making people feel they can trust Motorola again, which as we can see from a few other posts here many people do not.
The real question in my mind is, what will come first, the DROID 5 or the official JB upgrade? What I want to see are updates the drop shortly after AOSP does, not a year later...
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Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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maddeath said:
Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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At this point I would be happy with that. 4.3 in screen + S4 (AKA the Photon Q)= fine with me.
The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013
I wonder if the old cheesecake method would work if Motorola does start working on official Jellybean updates.
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I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly
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The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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I'd ditch moto in a heartbeat if there was another phone with a physical keyboard. Too bad there'll never be a nexus with a keyboard.
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I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly
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I don't mean to change the subject but which ROM are you using? The cyanogen 10 has no camera, Bluetooth issues, and crashes (not that I'm complaining, I'm grateful to even have it), but I thought that was pretty much the situation for all of them at the moment?
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now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013
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where did you read that?
I'd be more than satisfied to get 4.1 in Q1 of next year.
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where did you read that?
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It's been around for a while at http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...2-2-key-lime-pie-upgrade-timeline-razr-x.html
Cheers,
Steve.
Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys
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Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys
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I'm pretty sure this article was labeled as untrue rumor. Android 4.2.2 won't be a the next codename of android. I'm pretty sure we will be getting JB 4.1 since that's what Moto promised to us earlier this year. Honestly, I don't think any devices with less than 2GB will get Android 4.2 other than stock Android devices.
It's been a good run the the D4, I'm pretty happy with CM10 on here right now, much less bloated! I just miss the power off animation (CRT)...
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Hi, i have a Motorola defy and i want to buy a razr i, But first i want to know if this device Will have cyanogenmod and active development.
And besides i want to know if it Will be a good purchase.
Thanks in advance and greetings from argentina
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In my view, it will be certainly a good purchase, but the chance of the device receiving a 'non-stock-based' ROM like CyanogenMod, as things are now, is very low. The sources released by Motorola are broken.
Things may well change in a very near future, but that is my hope and nothing more concrete than that (again, considering things as they are now).
BTW, I must say I am having the 'smoothest' and 'closest-to-pure-android' experience in a stock ROM ever. I'm really happy with it.
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Thanks for the quick answer But i have another doubt. What about the performance vs galaxy s3 for example, i was reading that the razr is faster than the s3 when you open an app. Is that True? Also understood that the camera isnt very good, what about that?
Thanks again
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Redhotero said:
Thanks for the quick answer But i have another doubt. What about the performance vs galaxy s3 for example, i was reading that the razr is faster than the s3 when you open an app. Is that True? Also understood that the camera isnt very good, what about that?
Thanks again
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In raw performance, the S3 will surely beat the RAZR i. But it seems legit that the perceptive performance, mainly general usage of apps and system features, is on par with the S3. I haven't had a S3 in my hands to really attest it, though.
The camera produces lots of noise on dark photos. LOTS of noise. But overall it is fine, if you don't expect your phone to replace a dedicated camera for the most demanding situations.
AW: Razr i development future
Its fast at opening apps fast st browsing loading pages and JScript overall the best with the iPhone.
It doesn't bench bad, at CPU and memory its very fast while the GPU performance is bad, good enough for all games with some reduced details though.
If you want a fast phone with good battery life and compact size its RAZR I or iPhone 5.
If u can live or even want it big go s3, nexus4 they are good phones, the one x plus is good too but its expensive.
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In my view, it will be certainly a good purchase, but the chance of the device receiving a 'non-stock-based' ROM like CyanogenMod, as things are now, is very low. The sources released by Motorola are broken.
Things may well change in a very near future, but that is my hope and nothing more concrete than that (again, considering things as they are now).
BTW, I must say I am having the 'smoothest' and 'closest-to-pure-android' experience in a stock ROM ever. I'm really happy with it.
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The sources were fixed a long time ago by Motorola! Why everybody is saying the same wrong things over and over again????
Stop doing this, then maybe at some point somebody will develop sth
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The sources were fixed a long time ago by Motorola! Why everybody is saying the same wrong things over and over again????
Stop doing this, then maybe at some point somebody will develop sth
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All I know is that they did release new sources, but haven't seen anyone built it successfully yet nor use it to build a device tree for a custom ROM.
If you know something else, please share with us.
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The problem was that at the very beginning the source packages / one of the source packages was corrupted, which means that it was not extractable. This was fixed in November or December according to the razr i sourceforge page. Now you can download and extract all files. The fact that nobody was able to compile it does not mean that they gave us bad sources!!! Its just not completely easy and needs some experience ...
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All I know is that they did release new sources, but haven't seen anyone built it successfully yet nor use it to build a device tree for a custom ROM.
If you know something else, please share with us.
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