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[Q] I finally Rooted my phone. Now what?

I am very new to this, so I am not sure what to looks for on the forum.
I generally followed instructions from Lifehacker and this forum, used androot to root my phone, done it after two days.. (finally figured out I had to downgrade my phone.. )
So now I'm rooted, I have super user access, and I have rom manager installed. Here are a couple of things I know I want to get to do:
- install froyo (as stable as possible)
- uninstall sprint crapware (the NFL, navigation and others.. who needs them)
- possibly overclocking a little by what I read, I have another battery and I'm willing to try and give overclock a "little" each time to see if it works.
Before I do anything (I backed up my current settings with rom manager), I wanted to post here and ask you guys what I should do first, and how do I restore things back to normal if something goes wrong?
Thanks a bunch!

beholder121 said:
install froyo (as stable as possible)
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Go to the development forum, you should find the latest Froyo builds out there (check my signature for the latest ;-)).
beholder121 said:
uninstall sprint crapware (the NFL, navigation and others.. who needs them)
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If you install CM, it will remove all apps anyways. If you want to know how to remove apps - there are threads all over the place for it.
Also, attached is a script I wrote to remove apps (apk). It's a very simple straightforward script. Here's what you do, create a subfolder (not needed) on your sdcard, copy the two files into the folder, update "Apps-to-remove,txt" with all the apks you want to remove (with the full path) and run the script through terminal or adb shell. This script is not needed, but just simplifies the job, that's all.
beholder121 said:
possibly overclocking a little by what I read, I have another battery and I'm willing to try and give overclock a "little" each time to see if it works.
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Goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756774, read through and use, as appropriate. If you use the latest build by Jaybob, you may not need any kernels from this thread, as the builds have the latest code.
Hope this helps.

beholder121 said:
Before I do anything (I backed up my current settings with rom manager), I wanted to post here and ask you guys what I should do first, and how do I restore things back to normal if something goes wrong?
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To restore everything back to "Out-of-the-box", just run the official RUU from HTC/Sprint.

Thanks Andy.
Right now I'm going through Roms (I heard good things about Cyanogen but I can't download it because their registration page is messed up..) and I tried what comes for free with Rom Manager, which almost gave me a heart attack when the phone started... fortunately I read the instructions to restoring things so I was able to get back to my old rom (whew!!)
But now, for some reason, I don't have the market app on my phone! how am I to download rom manager...
Is it possible to chat with you or someone at least for a couple of minutes as I go through this, because at this rate I won't have my phone working well until tomorrow >.>

You need to install GAPPS, once you install a ROM.
I would highly recommend CM. The builds Jaybob has put together are based on CM code, take the latest (12/08) - it's stable. BTW, it's a mediafire link, so you should be good. I just downloaded the latest, y'day... works like a charm... (Thanks JayBob and Cm and everyone - can't say that enough).
The best way to install rom is:
1. Download copy ROM and gapps to your SDcard's root
2. Reboot into recovery
3. Wipe everything - Wipe/Factory reset, Wipe cache, Wipe Dalvik Cache
4. Install ROM from zip
5. Install Gapps from zip
6. Reboot - btw, the first reboot after a rom/gapps install takes a while, so don't be alarmed.
You can PM me, if needed.

I installed that last Rom via Rom Manager, which did it pretty much automatically.. so I didn't try to install a Rom via the SD card yet.
To make things worse, the phone does not recognized it's connected to a computer at all (there is no USB icon on my phone's notification bar) so I can restore it being to old sprint crap. No Market app, no way of installing anything or communicating with the phone, my backup, when I restore it, brings back the old HTC but without the market app and as I said, no USB support.
heeeeeelllllllllppppppppppppp

Ok,
I managed to restore things back to the old Sprint RUU. I noticed the SD card was *completely* out of room, which might have messed up my backups. I still don't know where these backups reside or how much room do they take, but making sure you have enough room on the SD card is important, as I think I have learned the hard way.
Important: the RUU detected my phone and installed *even without* the usb icon or my computer treating my phone as a "usb storage device". So resorting to this option, even though annoying (have to install and gain root access all over again), is helpful to have.
Now I am going to format my SD card, which doesn't have any important information, I don't think (my documents are all backed up anywhere and try and install the CM rom from a zip file, which I'm not sure how to do yet (people like me are used to have something like setup.exe, and everything works from there...) so I'm going to read and go step by step.

ROM installation is pretty simple, once you get your recovery going... just make sure you wipe everything, as I mentioned earlier to you...

beholder121 said:
I installed that last Rom via Rom Manager, which did it pretty much automatically.. so I didn't try to install a Rom via the SD card yet.
To make things worse, the phone does not recognized it's connected to a computer at all (there is no USB icon on my phone's notification bar) so I can restore it being to old sprint crap. No Market app, no way of installing anything or communicating with the phone, my backup, when I restore it, brings back the old HTC but without the market app and as I said, no USB support.
heeeeeelllllllllppppppppppppp
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Did you reboot with the phone connected by USB, by any chance?

andythegreenguy said:
You need to install GAPPS, once you install a ROM.
I would highly recommend CM. The builds Jaybob has put together are based on CM code, take the latest (12/08) - it's stable. BTW, it's a mediafire link, so you should be good. I just downloaded the latest, y'day... works like a charm... (Thanks JayBob and Cm and everyone - can't say that enough).
The best way to install rom is:
1. Download copy ROM and gapps to your SDcard's root
2. Reboot into recovery
3. Wipe everything - Wipe/Factory reset, Wipe cache, Wipe Dalvik Cache
4. Install ROM from zip
5. Install Gapps from zip
6. Reboot - btw, the first reboot after a rom/gapps install takes a while, so don't be alarmed.
You can PM me, if needed.
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Had it not been for reading this again, I would have been waiting for a reply. This was awesome and now I am back to business. Thanks a ton for this. i now have what i need to do this on my wife's Hero. Thanks again

[Q] Create Copy of SGS

I want to create a copy of my phone as it is (not just user data, but everything, firmware and databases too) - so TitaniumBackup is probably not sufficient for what I need.
The idea is to be able to explorw all aspects of the phone on my computer - things such as passwords etc.
I repeat, I do not just want the firmware, but everything from my current phone in its current state.
I have already rooted it, just not sure what I need to do from here? Assume it's something Linuxy or Telnet based? (I am using a Windows Machine, so ideally something I can do on there)
Thanks for your help

i think to access the complete ROM via a PC you would need some sort of linux OS. you can do a nandroid backup via CWM and find a compatible program to let you browse thru the md5 file format but then again im not sure thats possible via windows OS... perhaps you could ask one of the Dev's for advice as im sure not all them create roms, themes, apps using linux based OS's ???

I think I did try to post this in the Dev section, as I felt it was better suited there, but maybe by selecting the 'This is a question' option, it got moved into this forum.
I have a backup using CWM which has produced some IMG files - will take a look in them and see if it's got what i'm looking for it in there.
I thought maybe I would need ADB running, but maybe I don't.

ADB is like having some Chinese woman teaching you German...... totally confusing..... at least it is for me anyway but good luck hope you do what you set out to do

what you want is NAND back up.
Search for rom manager on the market.
You must be rooted for this.
NAND back up is like creating the back-up image of your current cell phone just like you do it for your computer.
it backs up your phone completely.
Do some googling and you will see.

[email protected] said:
what you want is NAND back up.
Search for rom manager on the market.
You must be rooted for this.
NAND back up is like creating the back-up image of your current cell phone just like you do it for your computer.
it backs up your phone completely.
Do some googling and you will see.
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Rom Manager does not back up your kernel. Use sgs kernel flasher for this task.
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How to install apps from computer?

Is there anyway to download and install games/apps from the computer? Can I go into CWM - Mount USB - and then create a folder in my Gtablet and put all my apk files in that folder and then somehow install them once booted into my tablet?
I have never used android before so please forgive my ignorance... I just just flashed Clock Work Mod via NVFlash so I am still learning. I would like to install PSX4Droid and Final Fantasy 7 among other games.
Thank you for your time.

twistid1 said:
Is there anyway to download and install games/apps from the computer? Can I go into CWM - Mount USB - and then create a folder in my Gtablet and put all my apk files in that folder and then somehow install them once booted into my tablet?
I have never used android before so please forgive my ignorance... I just just flashed Clock Work Mod via NVFlash so I am still learning. I would like to install PSX4Droid and Final Fantasy 7 among other games.
Thank you for your time.
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if they are android files (which, by apk, I assume they are), then yes. Just put them in a folder, use a file explorer to browse to them and open them, and they should install. Of course, installing is no guarantee that they will work on the gTab.
Also note that if you load an app that does not appear in your market, you will not be able to get updates to the app via the market.

You should have a folder called download in the root, use that for consistency.
However, I have found the easiest way is to email them to yourself at the gmail address you use on the tab.
The regular gmail reader provides for installing the APK from inside the message (just click Install!).
Works every time.
(Plus this gives you a backup copy of the app to install from anywhere you have web.)

The easiest way is to place them on a usb flash drive & use a file explorer (i.e root explorer) to install them.

I also want to mention that the new web-based Market will install the programs onto the tab for you when you click to install them from the PC.
No muss, no fuss. I was pretty surprised when I discovered it accidentally.

Wanting to upgrade to Windows 7...

So guys I'm really getting sick of using Windows XP and want to upgrade to Windows 7.
I'm just wondering how the best way to go about it after I've got the ISO burned or whatever, like how to copy my files etc. without any corruption. Also W7 will work with any hardware if I'm correct so it won't matter that I have outdated hardware?
Basically, can anyone give me a step-to-step guide on how to upgrade from scratch.
Any help appreciated guys.

I think when you insert the disk with windows running you'll have an upgrade option which will backup everything, install the new OS, then put back everything the way they were before (by everything I mean, registry entries, documents, user settings...)
or you can boot from the disk and choose click the upgrade button.
It's an easy process, but it took me a few hours to upgrade from windows vista to 7

husam666 said:
I think when you insert the disk with windows running you'll have an upgrade option which will backup everything, install the new OS, then put back everything the way they were before (by everything I mean, registry entries, documents, user settings...)
or you can boot from the disk and choose click the upgrade button.
It's an easy process, but it took me a few hours to upgrade from windows vista to 7
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actually the upgrade option is only if your on vista, best thing to do is backup your files to a external hdd and start fresh

Yep. Back up your files to an external drive, insert disk, boot from CD, once you get to the drive selection menu, select the drive, drive options and format. This will clear your HD, and give you a fresh install. Also make sure you can find all the drivers for 7, and if you don't want to pay for 7, find a backup of an OEM Win 7 disk, and install with that. Might need to update your BIOS to 2.1, but that isn't always the case.

Where are the files I should be backing up? Do any files need to be backed up in like sys32 or anything or just files like music, pictures, programs etc.? Is there a way I can backup program data too? The likes of favourites and bookmarks for chrome etc.
How do I go about checking/updating my BIOS?

If you're going 32-bit to 32-bit you can put the 7 install on the same partition as the xp install, but you won't have any registry keys from XP.

As for backup, music, photos etc. And usually you can find the update on the manufacturers website, it's a regular install. What MB to you have?

Back online, some editions done.

There is always easy transfer. RUN THE UPGRADE ADVISOR before purchasing though
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[Q] Install a new ROM without loosing data

Hi,
I want to install a new ROM without loosing any data and settings. I have made a Titanium backup.
As I now have only one SDCard, will ti be OK to copy the titanium directory to the PC, do the clean install, and copy ONLY the TB directory back to the SD, and do a restore?
Thanks for answers,

velizet said:
Hi,
I want to install a new ROM without loosing any data and settings. I have made a Titanium backup.
As I now have only one SDCard, will ti be OK to copy the titanium directory to the PC, do the clean install, and copy ONLY the TB directory back to the SD, and do a restore?
Thanks for answers,
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If the current ROM is any of the ff:
CM7 Stable (7.0, 7.1)
CM7 Nightly
Phiremod
CM7 MiRaGe KANG
AND the new ROM any of the above as well, you can just do the ff:
Put the new ROM's zip as well as any associated Kernel zips to the root of your microSD card (or anywhere really, doesn't matter. It's just so you can easily see and navigate to it)
Reboot to ClockWorkMod Recovery menu. Advisable if you have the latest CWM installed, which would be 3.2.0.1. (You can get the latest CWM through ROM Manager, which can be downloaded off the Market.)
Once you're there, go to Mounts & Storage.
Format System
Format Cache
Afterwards, go ahead and install your new ROM.
Once it boots up, you will still have all your apps even if you don't use TitaniumBackup since you did not format the "Data" partition.
All of the instructions above is if your install is in your NookColor's eMMC as opposed to running it off a microSD card.
Hope this helps.

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If the current ROM is any of the ff:
CM7 Stable (7.0, 7.1)
CM7 Nightly
Phiremod
CM7 MiRaGe KANG
AND the new ROM any of the above as well, you can just do the ff:
Put the new ROM's zip as well as any associated Kernel zips to the root of your microSD card (or anywhere really, doesn't matter. It's just so you can easily see and navigate to it)
Reboot to ClockWorkMod Recovery menu. Advisable if you have the latest CWM installed, which would be 3.2.0.1. (You can get the latest CWM through ROM Manager, which can be downloaded off the Market.)
Once you're there, go to Mounts & Storage.
Format System
Format Cache
Afterwards, go ahead and install your new ROM.
Once it boots up, you will still have all your apps even if you don't use TitaniumBackup since you did not format the "Data" partition.
All of the instructions above is if your install is in your NookColor's eMMC as opposed to running it off a microSD card.
Hope this helps.
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Did all that,
Booted to CM7.2, lost gmail, lost market. Now trying to roll back.

velizet said:
Did all that,
Booted to CM7.2, lost gmail, lost market. Now trying to roll back.
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You may need to reinstall gapps.

velizet said:
Did all that,
Booted to CM7.2, lost gmail, lost market. Now trying to roll back.
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Installing gapps again is part of installing a new ROM, which I forgot to mention. My bad. Just download gapps from ROM Manager, then flash it via recovery or via ROM Manager too.
Tapatalkin' it from my rooted NookColor running CM7 MiRaGe [KANG] [7.2 RC] overclocked @ 1.2 GHz

les02jen17 said:
Installing gapps again is part of installing a new ROM, which I forgot to mention. My bad. Just download gapps from ROM Manager, then flash it via recovery or via ROM Manager too.
Tapatalkin' it from my rooted NookColor running CM7 MiRaGe [KANG] [7.2 RC] overclocked @ 1.2 GHz
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Hi,
Now I am back to the latest 7.1 Nightly with everything working, had to install market.apk, than gmail.
The reason I do not want to loose data is, as I am not in US, because of some stupid Google policy, I had to sideload some apks like G+, currents, earth, maps, etc. and I do not want to fetch them again.
So my 2 questions are:
1- If I install gapps again, will I be able to keep these sideloaded apps?
2- Is it worth to move to 7.2 at all? (BTW 7.2 RC0 is around 70 MB, whereas the latest nightlies are all around 100 MB)

Why don't you move those .apk files to another folder, say, the eMMC.

votinh said:
Why don't you move those .apk files to another folder, say, the eMMC.
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Because I don't know what will happen if I move those to another place, say, emmc.

velizet said:
... I had to sideload some apks like G+, currents, earth, maps, etc. and I do not want to fetch them again.
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Why would you have to? O-M-G! you aren't one of those, DELETERS are you?

velizet said:
Because I don't know what will happen if I move those to another place, say, emmc.
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The .apk file is more like the package, let's say, like a .zip file (in Windows), you can make 1001 one copies if you want. You can move it from drive C: to drive D if you want. You can move it to the external hdd if you want. You can store it on the cloud if you want.
Basically, you do whatever you want with it.
You might not understand what I meant, I guess.
Just store it (them) to another storage so you can access it (them) and reinstall later if you need.

MISRy said:
Why would you have to? O-M-G! you aren't one of those, DELETERS are you?
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If you read my op, you will see the answer.

votinh said:
The .apk file is more like the package, let's say, like a .zip file (in Windows), you can make 1001 one copies if you want. You can move it from drive C: to drive D if you want. You can move it to the external hdd if you want. You can store it on the cloud if you want.
Basically, you do whatever you want with it.
You might not understand what I meant, I guess.
Just store it (them) to another storage so you can access it (them) and reinstall later if you need.
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I know what you mean, but if you look at the context I'm using, that piece of info is not helpful.
What I don't know is the Android system, where it keeps the applications, what happens when I install the system, how are apks affected etc.
For example in windows, you cannot just upgrade the system and expect every installed application to work.
The main point of the original post was trying to understand these.

Unless you want to become an OS developer, in this case an Android OS guru, then you need to learn and understand clearly the structure of it. If you are just a normal user or power user, why make your life harder digging into what and/or how the system and its associated files work???
Just like in Windows, all you need is the installation package (file), install it, it will install to the default directory, all you have to do next is run the executable file and let it run.
Next time, if you want to re-install, all you need is that "installation package". Why do you need to care what happen w/i those default installed folders such win/system32/xxxx or C:\Program Files\xxx?
Yes, sure, you can dig into it to understand more about, but why would you do that if you are just an user?
Back to your question, if I understand correctly, you want to REINSTALL those apps (if they are not coming back after install new ROM) and that's what I tell you.
Another note: unless you are intending installing the completely new custom ROM, /data need to be formatted, otherwise, no need to bother it.

votinh said:
Unless you want to become an OS developer, in this case an Android OS guru, then you need to learn and understand clearly the structure of it. If you are just a normal user or power user, why make your life harder digging into what and/or how the system and its associated files work???
Just like in Windows, all you need is the installation package (file), install it, it will install to the default directory, all you have to do next is run the executable file and let it run.
Next time, if you want to re-install, all you need is that "installation package". Why do you need to care what happen w/i those default installed folders such win/system32/xxxx or C:\Program Files\xxx?
Yes, sure, you can dig into it to understand more about, but why would you do that if you are just an user?
Back to your question, if I understand correctly, you want to REINSTALL those apps (if they are not coming back after install new ROM) and that's what I tell you.
Another note: unless you are intending installing the completely new custom ROM, /data need to be formatted, otherwise, no need to bother it.
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First of all, according to my philosophy of life, knowledge does not make life harder in the long run.
Secondly, I really doubt copying an .apk file to a medium as you say makes it install automatically.
Thirdly, I want to know when an application is installed, is it contained in its own directory, or does it write something to somewhere like a registry or what, and also where do the former preferences stay, etc.
Hope I can make myself clear.

velizet said:
First of all, according to my philosophy of life, knowledge does not make life harder in the long run.
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Absolutely true, no argument with this.
Secondly, I really doubt copying an .apk file to a medium as you say makes it install automatically.
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There is nowhere that I said it will AUTOMATICALLY install. You INSTALL it when you need it.
Thirdly, I want to know when an application is installed, is it contained in its own directory, or does it write something to somewhere like a registry or what, and also where do the former preferences stay, etc.
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I leave this question to other Android gurus to help you.