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Pocket-Lint (June 27, Updated content & pics June 29)
From our quick play it looks like an impressive tablet from Google. The quad-core Tegra 3 processor with 12 core GPU is astounding on a device that costs £159, offering class-leading performance for Android. Just like the Kindle Fire in the US, this device could very well be the one that takes another bite out of Apple's rather large share of the tablet market pie.
Engadget (June 27) (Updated June 28)
That IPS panel looks great from all angles, showing good brightness and good contrast even in a brightly lit room. We'll need some more time to see how that compares to other competing 7-inchers, but it's certainly a screen that is aiming higher than its price point.
The Verge (updated June 29)
The speaker isn't bad: a Verge editor who will go unnamed had Carly Rae Jepsen's "Call Me Maybe" ready in a Google Music account, and it blasted out of the slit in back of the device fairly crisply and loudly considering that we were in a large conference hall, and bounced nicely off a table when we set it down. We'll have to see how it fares in a real-world environment. The placement of the speaker slit at the bottom of the back of the device does mean that you can block it and muffle the audio with your hand if you're holding it low, though.
ABC News (June 27)
Jelly Bean — the nickname for the new Android 4.1 operating system — sails along on the tablet and the new notification tray and Chrome browser are very nice additions. But Google made a big push at the announcement today about its Google Play store and how the device was built for reading magazines, watching TV or video, and playing games. I can attest that videos on the screen look great and magazines, like Men’s Fitness, are visually appealing. But Google simply doesn’t provide the same selection as Amazon; I came up empty handed when looking for US Weekly and People Magazine. (Don’t judge me on my magazine choices.)
SlashGear (June 27)
What you’ve got here is a fun machine. Google worked with ASUS and NVIDIA here to bring on a media beast like no other, offered at a price that, sold exclusively through the Google Play store online (for now), is almost undeniable. Even those who want a tablet just to fiddle with should and probably will be considering this device first in the near future – unless they want an iPad.
The Guardian (June 27)
The Nexus 7 is impressive, though: a valuable addition to the tablet market. Google's challenge now is to put some real welly behind getting the device into people's hands, securing more innovative, high-quality apps for its store, and ensuring that its music, films, TV shows, e-books and magazine offering is good around the world, not just in the US.
AnandTech (June 27) (Check the benchmarks)
Honestly I think ASUS and Google have really done an excellent job here with the Nexus 7. The combination of a quad core SoC, IPS panel, solid construction, and the latest version of Android all for such a killer price point pretty much make it hard to really find any faults. Sure, it'd be useful to have a full size USB host port, microSD slot (though no Nexus has shipped with one since Nexus S), 5 GHz WiFi (Nexus 7 is 2.4 GHz only), or cellular, but the tablet wouldn't be $199 anymore. I also really feel like the 7 inch diagonal form factor is an ideal one, and the Nexus 7 is quickly growing on me.
Gizmodo (June 27) (Thanks jonnyg1097); (New Review, July 2 - Thanks Eclair~)
Google just let attendees to today's hardware-filled I/O conference love up on the new Nexus 7 tablet. It's light, it's compact, and holy crap, it's faster than hell. In short, you won't believe this is a $200 tablet.
Mashable (June 30)
The Nexus 7 may not be the best tablet ever built, but its media savviness and low price make it a crowd-pleaser. For the vast majority of people, it’s more than good enough, and if you aren’t yet married to the Apple platform, you should be pre-ordering one now.
Ubergizmo (June 30)
A key component of a tablet is the display, and when manufacturers take the affordable route, usually they have a hard time to provide a decent display. The Nexus 7 features a 1280×800 IPS display covered with scratch-resistant Corning FIT Glass. I played the same video both on the iPad and the Nexus 7 and the image quality was similar. See the display comparison in the photo above (iPad latest edition on the right).
PCMag (June 30) (Thanks yerand)
Meanwhile, our large-screen Editor's Choice, the New Apple iPad, is a totally different beast. It's much bigger, heavier, and more powerful with a cellular option, and a much wider array of apps. And it costs more than twice as much as the Nexus 7. Think of the iPad as a better replacement for another home PC, while the Nexus 7 is for toting around wherever you go.
Technology Review (July 1)
The Nexus 7's display is slightly higher-resolution than the Fire's—1,280 by 800 pixels, or 221 pixels per inch. It's impressive, given the tablet's price. An episode of the TV show Smash that I downloaded from the Android app and digital content store Google Play looked excellent on the Nexus 7's screen, with rich colors, high levels of detail, and good viewing angles. Videos streamed via Wi-Fi from YouTube looked great, too.
Betanews (July 1)
My Galaxy Nexus outperforms Pad 300 in just about every way, and Nexus 7 more so -- in part benefiting from Tegra 3 quad-core processor and superior graphics. This tablet is a screamer, which is part of the allure over 10.1-inchers -- then there is price-for-performance consideration. You get all this buttery smoothness for $199 -- $200 less than Transformer Pad and Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 or $300 less than entry-level new iPad. Anyone dissatisfied with performance at this price needs a brain scan.
Business Insider (July 2)
Should You Buy It?
Yes, but there are a few caveats here.
First of all, if you can afford the extra $200 or $300 for an iPad 2 or third-generation iPad, you should buy that instead. The iPad is still the best tablet on the market.
TechCrunch (July 2)
The Nexus 7 lacks expandable memory and only comes in 8GB ($199) and 16GB ($249) trim, which explains why video content is streamed by default. There’s also no way to output any content to a larger screen, so you’re stuck with whatever content you download to the 7-inch display. Luckily the screen is vibrant and offers pretty decent viewing angles but it definitely reflects a lot of light. Compared to the Kindle Fire, the 1280 x 800 screen on the N7 is much, much better. The display is listed as having Corning Glass. Whether that means it’s sporting Gorilla Glass or GG2 is anyone’s guess.
Associated Press (July 2)
In the 1982 sci-fi movie "Blade Runner," there are hints that the hero, played by Harrison Ford, is an artificial human — an "android" or "replicant." His job is to go out and kill other, rogue androids.
If he's an android, he's of the latest model, Nexus 7. That's also the name Google Inc. has picked for the first tablet to bear the Google brand. Clearly, its mission is to go out and kill rogue tablets running Google's Android software.
Android Police (July 5)
Here at Android Police, we look at the benchmark as one of those occasionally useful tools for certain scenarios, and rarely as good overall indicators of performance. However, they're a widely requested feature in our reviews (who doesn't like seeing something you bought beat something somebody else bought at numbers?), so I'm going to provide you a few.
Android Central (July 6)
The Nexus name means one thing to some of us -- wide-open, balls-to-the-wall-hacking. The Nexus 7 is no different. Unlock the boot loader with a single command, then have your way with the system, flashing any image your heart desires. It's not yet widely available, but we already have a custom recovery and developers are champing at the bit for the day they can order one. Development and custom ROMS are going to explode on the Nexus 7. It's going to be a ton of fun.
Ars Technica (July 8) (Thanks revmra)
Movie watching: WiFi on, 100 percent brightness, 100 percent volume
From playing that modern cinema classic Transformers: Dark of the Moon, we found that the Nexus 7 got a solid nine hours and 15 minutes of battery life. This is 15 minutes longer than Google estimates even with the most taxing settings. We love a high and honest battery estimate, but we love a high and modest one more.
Thanks for taking the time to put all of these reviews in one place
Just a heads up, gizmodo did one also. http://gizmodo.com/5921827/nexus-7-tablet-hands-on-brave-new-world/gallery/1?tag=nexus-tablet
Long story short, they recommended the tablet.
You're welcome. Since I pre-ordered one I'm out looking anyway.
New reviews added.
Added new 5 hour old review from Betanews
Google Nexus 7 is a joy to use. I can't yet comment whether it meets the stated, 8-hour battery life. But based on preliminary usage, the claim looks pretty good.
The tablet is the Kindle Killer and is sure to woo people who want an exciting tablet that offers curated content without spending $300 or more -- $499 to $829 for new iPad.
Some recommendations. If you:
Want a rear-facing camera, choose another tablet. You won't get it from Nexus 7.
Plan to create content on a tablet, choose iPad. Nexus 7 is more for consumption.
Use more than, say, three or four different Google services, Nexus 7 is best choice.
Are looking to buy a 7-inch tablet, choose Google's. I wouldn't recommend any other over Nexus 7.
Want to always have the newest version of Android, without skins or other enhancements, choose Nexus 7.
Long for Apple's Siri on a tablet, choose Nexus 7 -- and right now Google's assistant is better than Apple's.
Nexus 7 isn't for everyone, but it is for anyone looking to spend $249 or less on a tablet or one that offers sound performance and 7-inch display.
Washington Post's is same as Verge's. Verge licenses its content to WP's tech section.
You should specify those that aren't full reviews, such as Anandtech.
Secondly, most of these aren't reviews per se, but more of "detailed hands-on," without usability or benchmark testing. IMO, calling these "reviews" discredits the term, and potentially misleads the buyer into an overly rosy outlook. That said, I recognize that many who read these cheery pieces are early adopters who've already pre-ordered, and are looking more for confirmation of their buy.
New Review from Business Insider
You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll fall to your knees in gratitude for confirming pre-ordering the Nexus 7 will set things right in the universe and stop the Mayan calender from ending.
Atmazzz said:
Quoting Joe Wilcox (betanews):
Plan to create content on a tablet, choose iPad. Nexus 7 is more for consumption.
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How many folks agree with the above comment?
Define content...
I certainly would not use the 7 as a replacement for my laptop.
I would not even code applications for the 7 ON the 7...
I would not use it for creating documents and spreadsheets.
So I guess I will use it for consumption...
Qualifier: I sure would not use the IPad for those things - for the same reasons.
Atmazzz said:
Plan to create content on a tablet, choose a laptop. Nexus 7 is more for consumption.
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hashibahoohaa said:
How many folks agree with the above comment?
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I fixed it.
hashibahoohaa said:
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What kind of content? What kind of content does someone create on the iPad?
As an owner of an N7 I/O device, you can create content on the N7 but you are limited due to storage space. I already ran into storage issues with 2 nandroids, FF3, ME:I & a bunch of apps.
If you were to get the 16gb then yes, create content to your hearts desire.
RMXO said:
I already ran into storage issues with 2 nandroids,
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How big is a nandroid on the N7?
Atmazzz said:
How big is a nandroid on the N7?
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Opps, hit thanks instead of Quote.
to answer your question all my nandroids ranged from 1-1.5gb & a bad nandroids ran to 3gbs for some reason but I just deleted it. I'm currently performing a nandroid now & will report back once its done.
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The nandroid I just did was 1.58gb
Updated Gizmodo Review
Gizmodo has released an official review of N7. :fingers-crossed: Can't post the link, sorry, but it should be on the front page.
WindyCityRockr said:
Gizmodo has released an official review of N7. :fingers-crossed: Can't post the link, sorry, but it should be on the front page.
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Gizmodo's Full Review
You can argue that the iPad is a better tablet, but is it really $300 better? As useful as tablets are, they're still kind of luxury items. $200 for a full-fledged, seriously-spec'd, fully-capable tablet is an absolute steal. Get it. Seriously.
Read the Gizmodo review - and make sure you follow the Matias Duarte interview link. If you like the 7 - you owe him a lot.
Has anyone done a teardown yet?
I'm secretly hoping there is a sdcard inside lol, or a way to attach one.
If not I'm going to order a mini Wifi drive.
timskyline86 said:
Has anyone done a teardown yet?
I'm secretly hoping there is a sdcard inside lol, or a way to attach one.
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Haven't seen one but I share your hope. :laugh:
Google...basically gently rose up from the Shadows. Flexed it's muscles. And instantly KO'd every company making ****ty small tablets.
In one move. One fell swoop.
Speak softly and carrying a big stick. Well Played Google.
While I know we are a bit upset over the sd slot, and hdmi. You've got to admit, this makes pretty much any other 200 tablet a piece of garbage now.
Thoughts?
Lawyers everywhere are celebrating the arrival of the Nexus 7.
Google represents deep pockets, and every two-bit company with ripped-off patents will be looking to cash in.
Nah, they just like to set the price and standards on each subsequent generation of android devices. Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
gotta give google some credit... they have the technology and know how to use it
While I was hoping it would have the original features of the memo pad as revealed as ces I'm thrilled by this tablet. I think having its software come directly from Google and carrying the nexus moniker more than makes up for the hardware changes.
This tablet was an excellent move by Google because not only is it great hardware wise, but the 7 inch market is where they can build a foothold on the tablet market.
I'm happy it is priced so competitively but to scoff at other companies giving less for more money bothers me. Google isn't making profit off this tablet. They hope to raise revenue from play store purchases, etc, but other companies that produce these need to make money off what they build. I don't begrudge them for that. In the end it would be nice for other stockish android tablet makers to either commit to keeping devices on the latest OS, or release source for drivers, etc when they discontinue support for them so that unofficial builds could continue.
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Cel1084 said:
Nah, they just like to set the price and standards on each subsequent generation of android devices. Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
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Let's just hope other oems will follow this standard of pure android and follow the supposed 5 nexus devices this fall. I love my phone but I love pure Google also
Locklear308 said:
Google...basically gently rose up from the Shadows. Flexed it's muscles. And instantly KO'd every company making ****ty small tablets.
In one move. One fell swoop.
Speak softly and carrying a big stick. Well Played Google.
While I know we are a bit upset over the sd slot, and hdmi. You've got to admit, this makes pretty much any other 200 tablet a piece of garbage now.
Thoughts?
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They bought the rights to sell the ASUS ME370T rebranded as the nexus 7 with features removed.
They didn't KO ASUS.
That being said, I'm praying to Moore that their 10" nexus 10 is a rebranded infinity pad from ASUS.
jptech said:
That being said, I'm praying to Moore that their 10" nexus 10 is a rebranded infinity pad from ASUS.
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no way at the rumored $300 price point. plus infinity is already released. no way you will get true HD 1080P nexus tablet with most powerful tegra3 variant(highest clocked, higher voltage, higher clocked gpu, bandwidth on controller increased) for that cheap. we can dream though..lol.
I see a nexus 10 model being closer to transformer 300 minus some features to lower price point. nexus 7 already uses exact same tegra3 chipset as in transformer 300, which is the T30L variant. So Asus/Google could build a Nexus based on that design. minus some features. corners have to be cut to make the cheaper price point.
Cel1084 said:
Asus was going to release it regardless, Google just changed the standard of such devices taking out what we would call standard features that most people won't need and lowing the price on said standard while keeping the same performance.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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thebobp said:
Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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More realistic for it to have been $350 and have ICS instead of Jelly Bean.
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Yeah, google's only real contribution here was the hype (not insignifigant). And it's price for meddling was removal of features (like sd card) Asus was probably willing to include.
To be honest, I'm not sure it was worth it. And we can never really know, short of travelling to that alternate reality where Asus did release that $250 memo.
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MWBehr said:
More realistic for it to have been $350 and have ICS instead of Jelly Bean.
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I'm pretty sure his 250 quote came directly from Asus back when they announced they where releasing it.
I think N7 is the best move that Google could make with Android tablets. With N7, Google can
1. increase the market share, which is lagging iPad.
2. preempt the 7" iPad mini
3. kill cheap android tablets
4. set a standard to avoid fragmentation
5. diminish perception of android tablet = kindle fire
6. stepping stone for play store's long term success
anything I missed?
It might also bring down the price of some of the higher end tablets (are people really willing to pay an extra $xxx just to get feature xxx?)
Please don't think I'm defending lower hardware specs, but the truth is that Nexus devices are great for their SOFTWARE. Other than the Nexus One, these devices have been great, with good hardware but typically not bleeding edge. They contain enough to do what Google sets out to do. I used to be mad about this but now I'm quite happy. There's more to having a great device than the absolute edge of technology. When I got the Nexus S it was the best Gingerbread phone until Google release the next phone... the Galaxy Nexus. I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus now (ordered int'l in Jan) and though it wasn't the end all of hardware when it came out on paper... it is STILL the best ICS device as well. Now on JB, it simply flies. Why is this?
Simply, the way software and hardware are integrated, it's at Apple levels, dare I say. If you look at superior hardware phones like the One X and SGS III, there are hiccups and hangups or other things created by their custom UI's, etc. Plus, the software is written by Google for the Nexus devices to run well.
I'm not saying the galaxy nexus or other nexus device will have the highest benchmarks or play Temple Run the best, but they tend to function as a whole better than their brethren.
The Nexus 7 seems to be the same way. Jellybean is amazing. As Morfic stated, it makes ICS seem like Vista to Jellybean's Windows 7. It may be basically the same kernel, but it does everything it's predecessor does, better and more. Since they hired Mathias Duarte, I believe Android has not just the most functional OS of mobiles, but also the most cohesive and sharpest looking. All of this is my opinion of course, but I remember when GB came out and compared my Nexus S to the iPhone 4 and thought it still LOOKED a little rough. Now, in addition to it doing more, it looks and feels better as well.
My hope is that the Nexus 7 and Google's focus on this device will bring better Tablet UI apps and allows them to take market share from Apple the way they have done the past few years with their phones.
I think they killed all competition in the 7" Android market entirely I'm guessing, and maybe will do the same to the bigger Android tablets if the rumored 10" is released.
Unfortunately, I think this will cause other companies to not build 7" tablets with better specs since most people aren't going to pay much more to have them.. (Like video out, micro sd, haptic feedback, etc.)
The Toshiba Excite 7.7 16gb @ $500? Dead, dead, dead. Only big difference is microsd and AMOLED. And timely updates from Toshiba? Not likely.
Galaxy Tab 7.7? Hard to say. Only the Verizon model is available directly in the US, so maybe it will hang on since it has cell radio, MHL, haptic feedback, microsd, AMOLED, etc. But then again it's over DOUBLE the price. (Disclaimer: I love mine. Verizon, where is my ICS update????)
There are 10" tablets out there for about the same price as the N7, running ICS, with SD cards etc. And they'll sell about 3 of them - because 'joe public' doesn't buy noname chinese hardware that's (in their mind) 'too cheap'.
A google tablet, on the store shelves next to everything else, with google's name on it - they'll buy that. Then you start to shift a few. Then other manufacturers can start to shift a few, too, because suddenly people have friends with an android tablet and they want one too. 'Not an ipad' ceases to be the death blow that it is currently.
acegolfer said:
I think N7 is the best move that Google could make with Android tablets. With N7, Google can
1. increase the market share, which is lagging iPad.
2. preempt the 7" iPad mini
3. kill cheap android tablets
4. set a standard to avoid fragmentation
5. diminish perception of android tablet = kindle fire
6. stepping stone for play store's long term success
anything I missed?
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a slap in apples face for their overpriced ipad and marketing condescending commercials :good:
TonyHoyle said:
There are 10" tablets out there for about the same price as the N7, running ICS, with SD cards etc. And they'll sell about 3 of them - because 'joe public' doesn't buy noname chinese hardware that's (in their mind) 'too cheap'.
A google tablet, on the store shelves next to everything else, with google's name on it - they'll buy that. Then you start to shift a few. Then other manufacturers can start to shift a few, too, because suddenly people have friends with an android tablet and they want one too. 'Not an ipad' ceases to be the death blow that it is currently.
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But these cheap tablets... The usually have no support, and no software updates, etc. That's also a huge reason ppl don't go buy them.
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Please don't think I'm defending lower hardware specs, but the truth is that Nexus devices are great for their SOFTWARE. Other than the Nexus One, these devices have been great, with good hardware but typically not bleeding edge. They contain enough to do what Google sets out to do. I used to be mad about this but now I'm quite happy. There's more to having a great device than the absolute edge of technology. When I got the Nexus S it was the best Gingerbread phone until Google release the next phone... the Galaxy Nexus. I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus now (ordered int'l in Jan) and though it wasn't the end all of hardware when it came out on paper... it is STILL the best ICS device as well. Now on JB, it simply flies. Why is this?
Simply, the way software and hardware are integrated, it's at Apple levels, dare I say. If you look at superior hardware phones like the One X and SGS III, there are hiccups and hangups or other things created by their custom UI's, etc. Plus, the software is written by Google for the Nexus devices to run well.
I'm not saying the galaxy nexus or other nexus device will have the highest benchmarks or play Temple Run the best, but they tend to function as a whole better than their brethren.
The Nexus 7 seems to be the same way. Jellybean is amazing. As Morfic stated, it makes ICS seem like Vista to Jellybean's Windows 7. It may be basically the same kernel, but it does everything it's predecessor does, better and more. Since they hired Mathias Duarte, I believe Android has not just the most functional OS of mobiles, but also the most cohesive and sharpest looking. All of this is my opinion of course, but I remember when GB came out and compared my Nexus S to the iPhone 4 and thought it still LOOKED a little rough. Now, in addition to it doing more, it looks and feels better as well.
My hope is that the Nexus 7 and Google's focus on this device will bring better Tablet UI apps and allows them to take market share from Apple the way they have done the past few years with their phones.
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I agree with you on some of the points but One x and SGSIII are not hick ups. One x might had some problems earlier but SGSIII never had any problem and it is the best ICS phone not Galaxy Nexus. I sold my Galaxy Nexus 2 weeks back and this was the first phone which does not make me feel wow about anything at all. It was doing everything at acceptable level but best at nothing. I agree that at $350 price tag it is a nice phone but I bought this phone only because I was short of money. Google did well with Nexus one, Nexus S and they were indeed best phones but Galaxy Nexus was just okay sort of phone even when it was released last year. I think the new Nexus would be much better which hopefully would be released later this year.
On the other hand what you have said about Nexus 7 on the other hand is true. Even though I have iPad 3 64GB with 4G but I understand what google is trying to do with Nexus 7 and I love what they did. I was looking for a good 7 inch tablet and there was nothing good in the market in 7 inch beside toshiba 7.7 but it was too pricey. Who is going to pay more than 500 for a 7.7 inch android tablet? Google on the other hand done very well by introducing Nexus 7 only for 200 and nothing can beat it at this price point or even nothing with 300 more price tag can beat it. It is even better than Asus Pad TF300 which cost way more than Nexus 7. The 7 inch form factor is also great and google made a very good choice.
Just days before Apple took a dig on n7 claiming it to be a failure cheap plastic having blown up phone app and leps screen estate than the mini and blah blah blah
http://m.cnet.com/news/fact-checking-phil-schiller-on-ipad-mini-vs-nexus-7/57538617
http://512pixels.net/2012/10/keynote-nexus/
What's ur say on that ?
itsirfandude said:
Just days before Apple took a dig on n7 claiming it to be a failure cheap plastic having blown up phone app and leps screen estate than the mini and blah blah blah
http://m.cnet.com/news/fact-checking-phil-schiller-on-ipad-mini-vs-nexus-7/57538617
http://512pixels.net/2012/10/keynote-nexus/
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The fact they they felt the need to talk about it directly tells you something.
My View, I agree with the above posted.
1 - They are talking about it, it's obviously caught their attention and is effecting them and they don't like it, so they mock it and expect everything to think, oh its Apple they must be right.
2 - Nexus 7 has less screen estate? YES BECAUSE ITS A 7 INCH TABLET, the so called iPad MINI? is a bigger tablet (7.9 inch), therefor not very mini what so ever and is obviously going to have more "Screen Estate" than the Nexus7
3 - Apple are just worried, because people are waking up and realising that a 10 inch tab is a little to big, and clunky and in the iPad's case, HEAVY and makes you feel like you've been weight lifting after a little while of use.
4 - Apple is Apple, this is expected. All they do is ***** and moan (excuse my language) at other companies.
This is only because they realise that since iPhone 3/4? NOTHING HAS CHANGED AND THEY REGURGITATE THE SAME OLD CRAP ! and therefor people are getting BORED of their products, and their method of "Locking" people down and giving them no options or choice.
This is why Android is growing day by day !
PWNED
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So you get a low rez screen with a old Gen processor, no GPS. rubbish maps, and a simplistic but limiting OS.
And you get to pay MORE for it....
Or as it's been discussed on G+:
The iPad mini size isn't a design choice - it's a technical requirement
Yesterday, Apple when up on stage and put the Nexus 7 and the iPad mini side-by-side. They quickly told us how the iPad mini had a larger screen size and therefore could fit more content in it. But let me make something really, really clear - Apple themselves knows that the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire 7-inch sizes are perfect for their form-factor. The reason they did that comparison was to convince you otherwise because they didn't have a choice but to make their device wider.
Why didn't they have a choice? Well, I've said it once and I'll say it again - iOS apps are ridiculously tailored to their given screen proportions. It's actually disturbing. While Android apps scale properly on multiple screen sizes, form factors, and proportions, iOS apps won't. They're built for the specific screen you develop for. That's why the iPhone 5 goes into letter-box mode until a developer goes back and updates their apps for the new screen size. Yeesh, what a [fragmented] pain!
The iPad mini is completely proportionate to its bigger brother. Therefore, it can run iPad apps. If Apple were to release a 16:9 iPad, developers would all have to go back and reformat their apps for this brand new screen size. Like, once again, we see with the iPhone 5.
So, make no mistake - Apple didn't necessarily want to make the iPad the wide slab it is. It had to because, unlike Android, iOS hasn't been built for scaling.
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(Credit to Anuj Ahooja for this sensible and accurate writing on the subject)
I can understand why Apple now wants to enter the mini-tablet market, but it doesn't look so good on them to release something with lesser specs and missing features from their competitors, at a higher price point too. But, they're Apple. People will buy it because they're familiar with iOS and maybe want something easier to carry around. Maybe they're iPhone owners that have resisted the 10" iPads, but now want something with bigger screen real estate.
I don't want to make excuses as to why it may do well for them, just trying to see it from the view of their target audience. You're probably better off buying a 10" iPad on eBay with better specs.
Well it was just business.They were streaming only to apple owners so of course they would tell them what they wanted to hear.Just selling a product.
Apple are just stuck in a rut whereas they kickstarted the true Touchscreen Smartphone-without-a-hardware-keyboard market and kickstarted the Tablet market.
The iPad Mini, to quote a mate in the local phone shop, is nothing more than an iPad 2 which has been put through too hot a wash in the washing machine...
nice....
Didn't bother reading the specs on the iPad Mini, but there's no GPS? :lol:
There's GPS on the cellular models that will be released later.
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Maybe Apple didn't go for seven inches because it has a patent on 7.9 inches.
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Maybe Apple didn't go for seven inches because it has a patent on 7.9 inches.
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Ye gods, I don't really know why, but but the use decimal fractions for imperial measurements irritates the hell out of me! Whatever happened to sixteenths!
Ought these OEMs moved on to the metric system anyhow!?
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drpepe said:
Ought these OEMs moved on to the metric system anyhow!?
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I'm all for metric, but unfortunately the USA, especially engineers, seem to think it is the devil's plaything, possibly because the words sound suspiciously French.
In other comments about the i7.9 I mentioned that it is 15 mm wider than the Nexus 7, which probably rules it out for most jacket pockets. Maybe Apple found that it could not patent pocketability.
Woah, hey there, US engineers don't have anything against the metric system, rather it parses nicely in code. Blame the whole screen size thing on ignorant marketers, we are forced to convert **** because they are idiots and think he customer is as dumb as they are.
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I'm all for metric, but unfortunately the USA, especially engineers, seem to think it is the devil's plaything, possibly because the words sound suspiciously French.
In other comments about the i7.9 I mentioned that it is 15 mm wider than the Nexus 7, which probably rules it out for most jacket pockets. Maybe Apple found that it could not patent pocketability.
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A majority of people in the US have grown up with the imperial system and are most comfortable with that so they use inches, feet, miles. It's as frustrating for Americans to convert metric system to imperial. And anyway, I'm pretty sure the US doesn't have an official system of measurement so they are free to use whatever.
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Amazon is bragging how the iPad Mini spurred Fire HD sales.
http://allthingsd.com/20121026/amazon-says-kindle-withstood-ipad-mini-assault/
As a corollary to the whole "iOS can't scale apps", THAT is why Apple claims to have so many apps. There's a different version for every resolution screen out there. Plus they count each different language as a separate app, too.
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So you get a low rez screen with a old Gen processor, no GPS. rubbish maps, and a simplistic but limiting OS.
And you get to pay MORE for it....
Or as it's been discussed on G+:
(Credit to Anuj Ahooja for this sensible and accurate writing on the subject)
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Also on that on stage comparison both tablets showed the same exact amount of content. One was just bigger.
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LOL!!!
Here's an interesting article I just came across on the Verge about a few sources saying the Google will retire the Nexus Line and reboot it with Android Silver handsets that will be sold in stores and highly marketed, but with presumably higher specs.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/29/5664702/google-nexus-to-be-replaced-by-android-silver
International Buinsess Article
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5504...-release-date-specs-features.htm#.U2LtifldV8E
"The rumoured "Android Silver" line will replace the Nexus program. The line included more high-end and more expensive devices. It was claimed that Google wants to focus on giving consumers devices that are bumped in the hardware side while enjoying pure Android experience." (International Business)
What do you think? I would be willing to go for a all around premium "Nexus" phone as long as the cost wasn't too much and it worked on all major carriers.
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i call bs.
as every year there is another rumor that there wont be another nexus, yet every year comes a nexus.
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I'm hoping that this is not true, if it is, we should start an online petition to keep the Nexus brand going.. I hate bloatware, carrier logos and all of the other nonsense that comes on phones from the carriers. My last few phones have been Nexus devices, and everytime i buy a carrier branded phone, i just end up selling it or returning it. Once you go nexus you cant go back..
Just my .02 cents.
I just posted two similar links here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52289003
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I think that is only one more rumor surrounding Nexus brand
Google can call the program whatever they want to call it. As long as they offer a device with vanilla Android, without carrier and manufacturer bloatware, with at least mid-range specs at a reasonable price I'm happy.
Rumors only...lock it before it spreads! eeek
Guys we have the last nexus Google can't keep making this phone it hurts its partners and now with the one plus one there is no point. I prefer a premium device instead of the cuts made to nexus like battery and camera
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Some of you guys are still in the negation phase
i mean, i love the nexus line too, but there are many indications that Android Silver is going to become a reality soon, some of the leakers of this news are credible sources and probably with direct connections in Google itself (well at least more credible than random people on a forum stating the opposite with no clues whatsoever) . You do the maths.
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Guys we have the last nexus Google can't keep making this phone it hurts its partners and now with the one plus one there is no point.
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I hope you are joking. The OnePlus is not even on Google's radar. I would assume the Android Silver program is true based on who is reporting it. At the end of the day, Google isn't going to stop offering an affordable Android phone with vanilla Android. It seems the silver program is just extending the GPE program to carriers. Surely, they aren't killing off the Play Store so there are no worries. Whether or not they call their phones "Nexus" phones doesn't matter to me because one will still be available from the Play Store.
Cautiously optimistic about this. Could be interesting.
I hope they keep the competitive pricing...
I feel the android manufacturers and carriers are never going to want a reasonably priced google phone that is heavily marketed next to their pricy flagships. Something about it doesn't add up. If they are GPe priced i'm sure the carriers and manufacturers wouldn't mind but then marketing that is much harder and they wouldn't sell many. I just can't picture them being welcome in retail next to the other phones.
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idk, Android Silver concept first came in light few months back, and that time it was in the rumor stage, but now verge is reporting it and verge isn't one to bull**** users. Verge also has close contacts with Google, and it's sources can be trusted. Though I hope this DOESN'T happen. Also, next nexus will come this year, the android silver concept is staged for 2015.
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Verge after the Galaxy Nexus era is as much bullsh*t as the rest. Their review for the Nexus 5 is a joke for an example.
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Here's some more information about the possible Android Silver.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5504...-release-date-specs-features.htm#.U2LtifldV8E
"The rumoured "Android Silver" line will replace the Nexus program. The line included more high-end and more expensive devices. It was claimed that Google wants to focus on giving consumers devices that are bumped in the hardware side while enjoying pure Android experience." (International Business)
That's an even ****tier source than The Verge!
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IBtimes should be banned from posting anything about technology until they can do some fact checking. It's nothing but a clickbait site with a bunch of repeated in(or mis)formation.
This Android Silver idea sounds like it really could be a benefit if Google truly does put serious effort into it. I just think android has gotten to a point now that serious changes like this need to be considered in order to help potentially solve the issues many developers have (by having just a few "focus" devices every year". I own an iPad as well as N5 and I must say that the quality of most apps for the iPad are consistently phenomenal; I unfortunately can't say that in my experience with android (though the situation has majorly improved I'd say in the past year or so)
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IBtimes should be banned from posting anything about technology until they can do some fact checking. It's nothing but a clickbait site with a bunch of repeated in(or mis)formation.
This Android Silver idea sounds like it really could be a benefit if Google truly does put serious effort into it. I just think android has gotten to a point now that serious changes like this need to be considered in order to help potentially solve the issues many developers have (by having just a few "focus" devices every year". I own an iPad as well as N5 and I must say that the quality of most apps for the iPad are consistently phenomenal; I unfortunately can't say that in my experience with android (though the situation has majorly improved I'd say in the past year or so)
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Agreed
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It's not often you see a non-geek for example carrying a Nexus 5. Those people would rather go for huge flagships that show up on TV. Google wants a piece of the pie now and so they're probably going the same route as Samsung while keeping Android as vanilla as possible. Besides if the Project Hera theme is to be true, the home button now says Google. Google is slowly but surely inserting their brand name into everything to directly compete with Apple and Samsung devices and services.
The Nexus 5 advocate (Team Inferno)
Still think that this whole android silver thing is going to be similar to Google Play Edtion ( GPE ) phones.
There will be Xperia Z3 silver edition, HTC one M9 silver edition , Samsung Galaxy S6 Silver edition. All running vanilla android.
Just my 2 cents.
To me the issue is what you can and can't do in these supposed silver editions. Will they all have the freedom to flash this that and the other thing, downgrade boot loaders at will....etc etc.
The current developer edition phones of other makers still usually don't come with the freedom of a nexus. Not totally.
Again, my example is the moto x. All moto x's, including the developer edition, can't downgrade their os after flashing 4.4.2. The boot loader won't allow it. And those that find a way to downgrade, and make one false move....brick their phones. So that phone is not even close to the flexibility of a nexus.
That's my worry.
I think that Google won't do this
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Nexus 6 and Nexus 8 hints.
Source: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+FlorianKiersch/posts/5ZH5pVA41QJ
Moar:
https://codereview.chromium.org/350...r/devtools/devtools_adb_bridge_browsertest.cc
https://codereview.chromium.org/208013003/diff/150001/chrome/test/data/webui/inspect_ui_test.js
https://codereview.chromium.org/257...s/device/adb/adb_client_socket_browsertest.cc
This is really interesting but one cannot believe this completely. Someone could have replaced the code and anyone would believe it.
But let's hope it is what we see? Nice find. If this thread becomes a discussion. I can already see the threads future.
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I highly believe in this thread being correct about the Nexus 6 and 8. All signs have pointed to it for a while now. If we're to believe the Android Silver news then these will be the last "Nexus" devices.
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Definitely some great possibilities...
I think I heard the OnePlus One hype train derail...
rickyx32 said:
I think I heard the OnePlus One hype train derail...
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It died when they mentioned they partnered up with Cyanogenmod. As much as we love what CM has done for the community it's not what it used to be.
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TheLastSidekick said:
It died when they mentioned they partnered up with Cyanogenmod. As much as we love what CM has done for the community it's not what it used to be.
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Yes, that bothered me too. What killed it for me though was all the stupid hype. I snapped when they touted the fact the their phone was the first phone with right side mounted stereo speakers. Who the hell brags about such an asinine feature... lol
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It died when they mentioned they partnered up with Cyanogenmod.
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I disagree. Although CM isn't my choice and I never run it on any of my devices, we all know how much easier it is to develop for a device that is also supported by Cyanogenmod. This makes it an interesting prospect for me and other people who are into ROMs etc. Trying to get that first pure AOSP build is going to be much easier, providing the fundamentals CM use are open sourced / blobbed etc
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It died when they mentioned they partnered up with Cyanogenmod. As much as we love what CM has done for the community it's not what it used to be.
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Yes, Cyanogenmod isn't what it used to be, but don't you think it is better than atleast touchwiz/xperia/sense ? OPPO have a ****ty ColorOS(tried N1 and it didn't have the performance N5 have). I'm sure with cyanogenmod, this is the best we can have.
I heard a lot of people saying the Nexus 8 might be an HTC tablet.
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I heard a lot of people saying the Nexus 8 might be an HTC tablet.
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Yes, it is assumed that is what the device called htc/flounder in AOSP is referring to. At this point it is more than a rumor.
Will be interested to see what Google has up their sleeves for the rumored final Nexus phone, and what it will be called (isn't Nexus 6 copywrited?). I'd love to see a smaller footprint device, with a 5" screen, like what you would see if the Moto X had a 5" screen. The device would probably be Galaxy Nexus sized.
If OnePlus makes a smaller phone, I'll probably start going with those (assuming Google stops the Nexus line, and no longer offers subsidized phones), since the support should be incredible, and the price would be right where we would expect a Nexus device to be.
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Will be interested to see what Google has up their sleeves for the rumored final Nexus phone, and what it will be called (isn't Nexus 6 copywrited?). I'd love to see a smaller footprint device, with a 5" screen, like what you would see if the Moto X had a 5" screen. The device would probably be Galaxy Nexus sized.
If OnePlus makes a smaller phone, I'll probably start going with those (assuming Google stops the Nexus line, and no longer offers subsidized phones), since the support should be incredible, and the price would be right where we would expect a Nexus device to be.
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I hope that OnePlus succeeds, I've read articles about how they can't even provide phones or accessories to the 100 contest winners. Some got an empty box, while others got the phone wrapped up in bubble wrap without anything else...
It does seem that the OnePlus One hype has died down and fast. Maybe this was proof that super cheap flagship phones cannot be done reliability.
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I hope that OnePlus succeeds, I've read articles about how they can't even provide phones or accessories to the 100 contest winners. Some got an empty box, while others got the phone wrapped up in bubble wrap without anything else...
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Only one person got an empty box, and that was because it was stolen by an employee of the shipping company. OnePlus swiftly turned another phone around for him.
Source: Android Authority
As for the bubble wrap and no accessories:
As much as we would have preferred one of our first Smash the Past winners to have shared the unboxing of the One with everybody, we didn't have the boxes and accessories ready at the time we had to ship the phones to our warehouses in Europe and the US to be right on schedule. Since we didn't want our fans to wait any longer, we notified all our 100 smashers that they would receive the entire package later this month.
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Source: OnePlus forum