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Can anybody advice, which system apps and services absolunely safe to remove after rooting?
Or, at least, describe the functions jf system apk's?
kashei said:
Can anybody advice, which system apps and services absolunely safe to remove after rooting?
Or, at least, describe the functions jf system apk's?
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If i believe uninstaller for root gives a list
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it's not a problem to get a list.
the question is to get the safe list.
Im going to add a few i know are fine:
Universal search
Launcher
Polaris office
Amazon Offers
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I'm a very happy user of Titanium Backup Pro (with other phones) so I immediately installed it to my KFHD after rooting.
I'm now keen to know if anybody did the same and tried "Freezing" apps.
Freeze is a nice way of temporarily removing apps (to first see if everything keeps on working fine), but it is still dangerous because if anything really bad happens preventing a full boot, it would be impossible to run Titanium Backup again and Unfreeze the app.
Any of you had the same idea and tried experimenting a bit?
I would love getting rid of some of the Amazon system apps running in the background...
degiovab said:
I'm a very happy user of Titanium Backup Pro (with other phones) so I immediately installed it to my KFHD after rooting.
I'm now keen to know if anybody did the same and tried "Freezing" apps...
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Of course yes! Me too a very happy and maybe happier a bit user of Ultimate backup (Titanium played some dirty with market links).
And i've tried to freeze safe way.
But some apps like:
- Amazon device client platform,
- Amazon Web runtime
- DRM protected content storage... (I don't use any of amazon services)
I really afraid to experiment untill nandroid will be released for KFHD. That's why was the question.
Thanks. I followed you straight away.
I'm wondering now about:
- Amazon MP3
- Amazon Platform
- Amazon Video
- Audible
- Content Management Service
- IVONA TTS
These are all processes appearing as active (I use System Panel Lite) after a boot.
Anybody knows what these processes are about and if there is anything that can be safely frozen?
I would not mess with many of the Amazon applications at this moment in time.. But there are still some things that can be removed without hiccups.
what is the night android version?
As much as I love Android 4.3, I still miss a couple of the stock Amazon OS apps on my Kindle. The Play Store version apps just aren't as nice in my opinion. I managed to rip the stock "Launcher.apk" and "KindleForOtter.apk" from a Kinology update.zip I had lying around on my hard drive. I moved them to "/system/app," gave them root permissions (rw-r--r--), and rebooted (knowing it probably wouldn't work). Sure enough, both apps force closed upon launch. So my question is, is there anyway to integrate these apps into JellyBean? If so, what are the files necessary, and how much work would it take?
Ph0enix_216 said:
As much as I love Android 4.3, I still miss a couple of the stock Amazon OS apps on my Kindle. The Play Store version apps just aren't as nice in my opinion. I managed to rip the stock "Launcher.apk" and "KindleForOtter.apk" from a Kinology update.zip I had lying around on my hard drive. I moved them to "/system/app," gave them root permissions (rw-r--r--), and rebooted (knowing it probably wouldn't work). Sure enough, both apps force closed upon launch. So my question is, is there anyway to integrate these apps into JellyBean? If so, what are the files necessary, and how much work would it take?
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This is a question that has been brought up and looked into since the first generation KFs. Many skilled developers have looked into the issue and the answer is always the same...
While it may not be impossible to port apps like the launcher, reader and Silk to non-Amazon ROMs, the work involved would be way more than what it's worth.
Does this apply to things like the Instant Video, which is not Kindle specific, as it also runs on my Sony internet streamer (and actually shows in the play store for that), but don't work on other devices, like my Nexus?
In other words, does whatever check it does to see if it's on a Kindle or other 'approved' device still work on , for example, CM?
I had to replace my daughter's fire 7" kids edition tablet and the replacement came with 5.0.0. I turned off wifi to block updates, and from what I can tell I can use the supertool to root it and add the play store. one of the problems with the original tablet was the lack of space, despite installing apps to external storage. I would love to free up some internal memory if possible, not opposed to running a custom rom, but I need to keep the freetime feature active so I'm not sure what my options are. thanks in advance for any help and advice!
kellybrf said:
I had to replace my daughter's fire 7" kids edition tablet and the replacement came with 5.0.0. I turned off wifi to block updates, and from what I can tell I can use the supertool to root it and add the play store. one of the problems with the original tablet was the lack of space, despite installing apps to external storage. I would love to free up some internal memory if possible, not opposed to running a custom rom, but I need to keep the freetime feature active so I'm not sure what my options are. thanks in advance for any help and advice!
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One rooted take a look at Link2SD which should allow you to relocate most apps to the SD card. Recommend using the *link* function, not move. From a user perspective they accomplish the same thing but linking works on a wider range of apps. Downside is SD card must be formatted in a specific manner as outlined in the Link2SD FAQ.
Hi,
I have a Fire 7 that I downgraded to 54.0 and debloated and therefore I lost the Amazon Prime Video App which I would lilke to have, so I proably do a factory-reset and go through the process again - but this time try to do it in a way that I'll still have App.
I have been using the procedure outlined in another thread that debloats by running "adb uninstall -k" over the packages.
The "-k" switch keeps the cache and data-directories around and I believe this is what prevents the app from reinstalling.
So my first question is: Why is it done this way? Not using the -k-switch would as far as I understand it also get rid of these directories so in theory if I would uninstall the Video App without this switch I could then later re-install it via the Google-Playstore (that I've put on), right?
Another way would be not to uninstall it at all and simply keep it but then I would also need to keep the Amazon Appstore around so I could later update it. Or would I need to keep even more apps for the Video-app to function properly?
I assume it would be quite possible to have both the Amazon-Appstore and Google Playstore on one device (at the moment I also have Playstore and F-Droid) or would that run into some problem?
If both options (keeping the app or deleting it and reinstalling it via the Playstore) would be viable, which one would you prefer?
Many thanks!
morgonhed said:
Hi,
I have a Fire 7 that I downgraded to 54.0 and debloated and therefore I lost the Amazon Prime Video App which I would lilke to have, so I proably do a factory-reset and go through the process again - but this time try to do it in a way that I'll still have App.
I have been using the procedure outlined in another thread that debloats by running "adb uninstall -k" over the packages.
The "-k" switch keeps the cache and data-directories around and I believe this is what prevents the app from reinstalling.
So my first question is: Why is it done this way? Not using the -k-switch would as far as I understand it also get rid of these directories so in theory if I would uninstall the Video App without this switch I could then later re-install it via the Google-Playstore (that I've put on), right?
Another way would be not to uninstall it at all and simply keep it but then I would also need to keep the Amazon Appstore around so I could later update it. Or would I need to keep even more apps for the Video-app to function properly?
I assume it would be quite possible to have both the Amazon-Appstore and Google Playstore on one device (at the moment I also have Playstore and F-Droid) or would that run into some problem?
If both options (keeping the app or deleting it and reinstalling it via the Playstore) would be viable, which one would you prefer?
Many thanks!
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If you target a privileged app/component on an unrooted ROM you will not be able to reinstall the same item (package ID) sans factory reset or other means of writing to the system partition. Do yourself a favor and focus on the handful of apps that account for the majority of unwanted behavior and leave the rest alone.
Davey126 said:
If you target a privileged app/component on an unrooted ROM you will not be able to reinstall the same item (package ID) sans factory reset or other means of writing to the system partition. Do yourself a favor and focus on the handful of apps that account for the majority of unwanted behavior and leave the rest alone.
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The thing is, the Amazon Video and Appstore apps are part of that handful, as battery monitoring and packet capturing apps prove. On registered devices, both are constantly running in the background, eating up precious RAM and battery, and sending data back to Amazon.
lakitu47 said:
The thing is, the Amazon Video and Appstore apps are part of that handful, as battery monitoring and packet capturing apps prove. On registered devices, both are constantly running in the background, eating up precious RAM and battery, and sending data back to Amazon.
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Correct. As are equivalent Google components on standard (non-Amazon) devices rocking vendor tweaked Android. Everyone has to find their personal Zen when it comes to managing their electronic devices. Amazon is heavy handed which I why I only utilize their hardware if it is capable of hosting an alternative ROM (eg: 2nd gen HD, 3rd gen HDX, early 5th gen Fire). Ultimate goal is to maximize use and minimize maintenance. Which is why I recommended a lite touch when going after Amazon apps/services via 'adb uninstall'. Make a mistake and you have to start all over. Ugh.
Thanks for the response.
I did some experiments and indeed, even if you delete the Prime-App without "-k" you are not able to reinstall it from the playstore.
So in the end I kept a few preinstalled apps (Prime, Shopping-app, Appstore) and deleted the rest without "-k".
I now have Amazon Appstore (that I only kept so I could later update the Prime-App), Google Playstore and F-Droid on one device without problems.
I have a rooted fire but its got really slow. Is there a quick way to remove all the apps and data without removing the update blocker, keeping third party launcher etc?