I have a rooted fire but its got really slow. Is there a quick way to remove all the apps and data without removing the update blocker, keeping third party launcher etc?
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Hello Boinic XDAers
My question is how deeply integrated are the stock apps such as Dialer/Messaging/Calender/Blur launcher ?
I'd like to download 3rd party ones such as go sms and custom dialer/contact apps and uninstall the stock ones.
will any of these cause continuous force closes or a soft brick?
Thanks!
Marc
Go ahead and install the new ones. Just dont uninstall the old ones. Once you set the new apps as the default you will never have to see the blur ones again. But yes it will probably cause issues to uninstall them. Besides, why? There really is no point to uninstalling the default ones.
If you really don't want to see the stock apps, you could try freezing them through Titanium Backup. If something goes wrong, you can unfreeze them.
Freezing an app this way does the same thing as uninstalling it (removes it from your app list/drawer and stops the system from reading it, basically hiding it from the system behind TTB's walls) but allows you to bring it back with ease.
Can anybody advice, which system apps and services absolunely safe to remove after rooting?
Or, at least, describe the functions jf system apk's?
kashei said:
Can anybody advice, which system apps and services absolunely safe to remove after rooting?
Or, at least, describe the functions jf system apk's?
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If i believe uninstaller for root gives a list
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it's not a problem to get a list.
the question is to get the safe list.
Im going to add a few i know are fine:
Universal search
Launcher
Polaris office
Amazon Offers
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I'm a very happy user of Titanium Backup Pro (with other phones) so I immediately installed it to my KFHD after rooting.
I'm now keen to know if anybody did the same and tried "Freezing" apps.
Freeze is a nice way of temporarily removing apps (to first see if everything keeps on working fine), but it is still dangerous because if anything really bad happens preventing a full boot, it would be impossible to run Titanium Backup again and Unfreeze the app.
Any of you had the same idea and tried experimenting a bit?
I would love getting rid of some of the Amazon system apps running in the background...
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I'm a very happy user of Titanium Backup Pro (with other phones) so I immediately installed it to my KFHD after rooting.
I'm now keen to know if anybody did the same and tried "Freezing" apps...
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Of course yes! Me too a very happy and maybe happier a bit user of Ultimate backup (Titanium played some dirty with market links).
And i've tried to freeze safe way.
But some apps like:
- Amazon device client platform,
- Amazon Web runtime
- DRM protected content storage... (I don't use any of amazon services)
I really afraid to experiment untill nandroid will be released for KFHD. That's why was the question.
Thanks. I followed you straight away.
I'm wondering now about:
- Amazon MP3
- Amazon Platform
- Amazon Video
- Audible
- Content Management Service
- IVONA TTS
These are all processes appearing as active (I use System Panel Lite) after a boot.
Anybody knows what these processes are about and if there is anything that can be safely frozen?
I would not mess with many of the Amazon applications at this moment in time.. But there are still some things that can be removed without hiccups.
what is the night android version?
Rooted and installed APEX launcher, about to use it as a regular Android tablet and has little interest on Amazon's ecosystem.
So what are the apps safe to freeze?
Thanks
Hi,
I have a Fire 7 that I downgraded to 54.0 and debloated and therefore I lost the Amazon Prime Video App which I would lilke to have, so I proably do a factory-reset and go through the process again - but this time try to do it in a way that I'll still have App.
I have been using the procedure outlined in another thread that debloats by running "adb uninstall -k" over the packages.
The "-k" switch keeps the cache and data-directories around and I believe this is what prevents the app from reinstalling.
So my first question is: Why is it done this way? Not using the -k-switch would as far as I understand it also get rid of these directories so in theory if I would uninstall the Video App without this switch I could then later re-install it via the Google-Playstore (that I've put on), right?
Another way would be not to uninstall it at all and simply keep it but then I would also need to keep the Amazon Appstore around so I could later update it. Or would I need to keep even more apps for the Video-app to function properly?
I assume it would be quite possible to have both the Amazon-Appstore and Google Playstore on one device (at the moment I also have Playstore and F-Droid) or would that run into some problem?
If both options (keeping the app or deleting it and reinstalling it via the Playstore) would be viable, which one would you prefer?
Many thanks!
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Hi,
I have a Fire 7 that I downgraded to 54.0 and debloated and therefore I lost the Amazon Prime Video App which I would lilke to have, so I proably do a factory-reset and go through the process again - but this time try to do it in a way that I'll still have App.
I have been using the procedure outlined in another thread that debloats by running "adb uninstall -k" over the packages.
The "-k" switch keeps the cache and data-directories around and I believe this is what prevents the app from reinstalling.
So my first question is: Why is it done this way? Not using the -k-switch would as far as I understand it also get rid of these directories so in theory if I would uninstall the Video App without this switch I could then later re-install it via the Google-Playstore (that I've put on), right?
Another way would be not to uninstall it at all and simply keep it but then I would also need to keep the Amazon Appstore around so I could later update it. Or would I need to keep even more apps for the Video-app to function properly?
I assume it would be quite possible to have both the Amazon-Appstore and Google Playstore on one device (at the moment I also have Playstore and F-Droid) or would that run into some problem?
If both options (keeping the app or deleting it and reinstalling it via the Playstore) would be viable, which one would you prefer?
Many thanks!
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If you target a privileged app/component on an unrooted ROM you will not be able to reinstall the same item (package ID) sans factory reset or other means of writing to the system partition. Do yourself a favor and focus on the handful of apps that account for the majority of unwanted behavior and leave the rest alone.
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If you target a privileged app/component on an unrooted ROM you will not be able to reinstall the same item (package ID) sans factory reset or other means of writing to the system partition. Do yourself a favor and focus on the handful of apps that account for the majority of unwanted behavior and leave the rest alone.
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The thing is, the Amazon Video and Appstore apps are part of that handful, as battery monitoring and packet capturing apps prove. On registered devices, both are constantly running in the background, eating up precious RAM and battery, and sending data back to Amazon.
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The thing is, the Amazon Video and Appstore apps are part of that handful, as battery monitoring and packet capturing apps prove. On registered devices, both are constantly running in the background, eating up precious RAM and battery, and sending data back to Amazon.
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Correct. As are equivalent Google components on standard (non-Amazon) devices rocking vendor tweaked Android. Everyone has to find their personal Zen when it comes to managing their electronic devices. Amazon is heavy handed which I why I only utilize their hardware if it is capable of hosting an alternative ROM (eg: 2nd gen HD, 3rd gen HDX, early 5th gen Fire). Ultimate goal is to maximize use and minimize maintenance. Which is why I recommended a lite touch when going after Amazon apps/services via 'adb uninstall'. Make a mistake and you have to start all over. Ugh.
Thanks for the response.
I did some experiments and indeed, even if you delete the Prime-App without "-k" you are not able to reinstall it from the playstore.
So in the end I kept a few preinstalled apps (Prime, Shopping-app, Appstore) and deleted the rest without "-k".
I now have Amazon Appstore (that I only kept so I could later update the Prime-App), Google Playstore and F-Droid on one device without problems.
Hi all,
My phone is quite slow nowadays and has an annoying 5 second freeze every time I wake it up.
As ColorIS 13 looks to be far away in Europe I really need to factory reset.
What's the best way to do this without losing everything in my System Clone?
And is there a tool (PC?) for Oppo phones to restore apps WITH data/settings included?
Android loads can last for years, remain fast and stable if you don't do firmware upgrades/updates. Otherwise factory reset after an upgrade. Android loads can be exceptionally long lived if not screw up by the former or buggy 3rd party apps.
Try in safe mode to see if a 3rd party app(s) are the cause rather than the current core load settings.
Importing app settings even if possible invites the possibility of importing the current existing problems with it. Do a clean load if you go to the trouble of a factory reset. You should already have all critical data backed up redundantly and in order. Including backup exports for all apps that allow it especially Poweramp if you use it.
Make installable copies of all vetted apps for backup and reloads. No Playstore needed; reloads go much faster and smoother.
Use copy/paste file transfers backup and restores rather than automated transfer apps... they can cause data lose if you depend on them 100%.
Another option that's not as drastic is to reset all app settings to their default settings. It may or may not get it. It's always best to find to root cause of an issue if at all possible to prevent it from potentially reoccurring. Only a rootkit, dugged in malware or a boot loop demand a factory reset.
Unfortunately there are not many apps that provide a backup (like Nova launcher, Nights keeper etc).
That means that I would have to reconfigure dozens of apps, some of them being quite cumbersome like home automation apps.
You end up taking a few days to inventorize all settings, possible backups, passwords, accounts etc and configuring those apps again.
Google should implement the possibility to backup and restore data on an per-app basis like I used to be able to do with Titanium Backup
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Unfortunately there are not many apps that provide a backup (like Nova launcher, Nights keeper etc).
That means that I would have to reconfigure dozens of apps, some of them being quite cumbersome like home automation apps.
You end up taking a few days to inventorize all settings, possible backups, passwords, accounts etc and configuring those apps again.
Google should implement the possibility to backup and restore data on an per-app basis like I used to be able to do with Titanium Backup
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Try temporarily disabling Nova launcher and see if that helps. Try using the native launcher instead. Target all apps that run at boot up. Launchers are some of the few apps that can boot loop an Android.
Any signs of system instability should be taken seriously as they are the only warning you may get before a boot loop.
After 2 back to bach boot loops and full reloads in 3 days I got very organized and proficient at it That was over 2.5 years ago, that's how long this load has been running on this heavily used N10+. Still running on Pie.
How can i check which apps run at boot up?
@latino147 Swift Backup is pretty good at backing everything up, and with root can backup app data. Problem is, to attain root, you'll have to factory reset, which will wipe your data, and there's no way around that.
Yesterday I cleared the caches of several apps and suddenly everything seems to be working fine again
Do you guys know if it's possible to clear ALL caches in one swoop?
Both ColorOS and the developer options don't seem to have such an option.
latino147 said:
Yesterday I cleared the caches of several apps and suddenly everything seems to be working fine again
Do you guys know if it's possible to clear ALL caches in one swoop?
Both ColorOS and the developer options don't seem to have such an option.
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Sd Maid Pro can at least on Android 9 and 10.
It clips the app caches to 20kb I think it is. If you try to go to zero it will hang on the running apps. It does a nice clean up job on stock Androids and hasn't caused any critical data lose. Can't say the same about CCleaner