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So I finally am getting a Nexus sometime this week. ^_^ I am so so so so so so so so SO excited. I had a couple question of course I am a BIG XDA head so I read a lot of stuff. But I was wondering from experience..
1: What is the BEST rom out? I am looking for
- Stability
- Good Battery life
- Little to no bugs.
(I imagine Froyo still being buggy and stuff?, idk give me more info on this I would like a FROYO rom.)
2: I bought the handset from a someone online, so do you think I can still get warranty if I call google?
3: What do you guys like best about the Nexus? I had a G1, MT3G, and now soon a Nexus One. :] I am so excited to hear what you guys think about it, and I am hoping the battery is better then the G1/MT3G? Of course I know with multitasking/ and rooting the kernal drains battery and such but whats your experience?
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G1-evolve said:
So I finally am getting a Nexus sometime this week. ^_^ I am so so so so so so so so SO excited. I had a couple question of course I am a BIG XDA head so I read a lot of stuff. But I was wondering from experience..
1: What is the BEST rom out? I am looking for
- Stability
- Good Battery life
- Little to no bugs.
(I imagine Froyo still being buggy and stuff?, idk give me more info on this I would like a FROYO rom.)
2: I bought the handset from a someone online, so do you think I can still get warranty if I call google?
3: What do you guys like best about the Nexus? I had a G1, MT3G, and now soon a Nexus One. :] I am so excited to hear what you guys think about it, and I am hoping the battery is better then the G1/MT3G? Of course I know with multitasking/ and rooting the kernal drains battery and such but whats your experience?
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1. most roms are already stable. just search or while youre reading around look at sigs to see what people have flashed.
2. the warantee is connected with the original buyer and when you call they ask for the google checkout account that bought it. But Ive read a few people getting lucky and got replacements.
3. SPEED. insane speed compared to other phones/OSes. With root you can do anything you want and apple isnt around to lock down porn apps and flash. IMO battery life is mostly to do with usage. some people claim insane battery life and call themselves heavy users but I surely dont get close to what they get :\ but it will definitely last you through a day once you stop playing with it too much.
Nice, anyone else with inputs on there experience? I think I will go with the latest Cyanogen ROM.
Welcome to XDA and the android family, however if you replace the ROM, it will void any warranty you might have.
well once you do have root you can test all 3 roms in about an hour. all you need to do is run nandroid and have titantium/mybackup pro. it will move your apps and keep their data. you might not get all the system data moved because the roms are a little different but switching roms doesnt take too much effort
i would try the desire rom for lolz, cm to see the hype, and maybe another like enom to see what others are doing.
Im not new to XDA or android I know hot to root and all that just to clear up.. lol. I hate SENSE so that is out of the way, I know what Cyanogen can do.. I just wish benbuchacher could have a N1 so he can make his kernal.. Er... I just will have CM though.
After reading every single post in the general q&a and the development section. Im a little conflicted about buying a nook color to root. The s lot of people are having serious issues after rooting. For instance apps stop functioning or the device completely resets its self... im just wondering how widespread this problem is?
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Ummmm i haven't had an issue yet
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Im just wondering what are all these issues with the nook color after rooting
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There are really no problems with it. I think most of what you are reading is people having problems due to not following instructions. I rooted and it works great, no issues.
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Any resets happen when the unit is in sleep mode not while you are using it, so it just reboots and goes right back to sleep.. This very rarely happens to me, and nobody is sure exactly what the root cause is yet and not many care because it does not really disturb anything.
Other than that, the only problems out there are usually shared amongst other tablets, and not specific to this one.
You do realize that Android is meant and designed to be rooted. You are meant to have root access. Its the manufacturers that try to lock it down.
You have to remember this...people that are having issues are going to post on these forums to look for a resolution.
Those are NOT having issues (me) are not going to flood the forums with, "HEY ITS WORKING GREAT!".
I am sure the mod's appreciate the stance of people with no issues. I doubt the traffic of positive responses would tolerated.
So with that, if I was you, I would buy one (2 week return period), root and try it. If you don't like it, reset it back to factory and return it.
All the issues that people are having, solutions have mostly been found. I agree with the post above. Most are probably not having any problems. I have been rooted since December 24th. Any changes that I make is after "tweaks" have been tested by others. I am very careful to follow instructions. My rig is very stable. I appreciate those that are more adventurous than myself, that know no boundaries in regard to making the nook what it is. Some of the reported issues are due to that experimentation. But like I said, most all of those issues have been resolved. My suggestion would be to go for it. A few headaches may lie ahead but it should be worth it.
I'm in the market for a new phone and I was on the brink of getting an Incredible S but I then stumbled across a lot of pages of people reporting reception problems which make the phone unusable. However, I'm always wary of pages dedicated to reporting problems as you get only problems reported and very few people reporting the good aspects.
So what I'd like to know is whether any Incredible S users out there have reception problems such as dropped calls, lost SMS, messages arriving days late etc? These are the things that I'm seeing people reporting but I don't know quite how prolific these issues really are.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm in the market for a new phone and I was on the brink of getting an Incredible S but I then stumbled across a lot of pages of people reporting reception problems which make the phone unusable. However, I'm always wary of pages dedicated to reporting problems as you get only problems reported and very few people reporting the good aspects.
So what I'd like to know is whether any Incredible S users out there have reception problems such as dropped calls, lost SMS, messages arriving days late etc? These are the things that I'm seeing people reporting but I don't know quite how prolific these issues really are.
Thanks in advance.
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this phone, for me, has been absolute perfection (no issues). not that the phone is perfect (almost is), but it really is a perfect match for my expectations/needs/wants AT THIS TIME (i'm sure my needs/wants will change in a few months). and you are going to hear a lot of different opinions because everybody has different needs/wants. also, everyone is on different carriers and setups. there are just too many variables.
again, imo, this phone suits me perfect at the moment and there are no issues for me.
I appreciate that there will be differing opinions about peoples expectations but hopefuly everyones expectations about how a phone should work as far as basic phone functionality shouldn't be too far apart - I imagine most people will want it to have reception when in known good reception areas without having to resort to bizarre hand contortions.
Things like camera and media playback are far more down to individual perception and as such I'm not overly interested in the majority of online reviews as they tend to deal mainly with the bells and whistles whereas I'm interested in the basic bread and butter functions which seem to be increasingly overlooked by phone reviewers.
i absolutely agree. a far as basic functions go, i haven't had any issues that i can think of. it just works. but again, that could be specific to my setup and carrier.
Best phone I've ever had by far..
mr nick said:
I'm in the market for a new phone and I was on the brink of getting an Incredible S but I then stumbled across a lot of pages of people reporting reception problems which make the phone unusable. However, I'm always wary of pages dedicated to reporting problems as you get only problems reported and very few people reporting the good aspects.
So what I'd like to know is whether any Incredible S users out there have reception problems such as dropped calls, lost SMS, messages arriving days late etc? These are the things that I'm seeing people reporting but I don't know quite how prolific these issues really are.
Thanks in advance.
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The IncS has exceeded my expectations. I bought an unlocked Canadian Bell Mobile model on eBay and I am using in on AT&T network here in US. I have not had any reception issues, dropped calls or experienced delays in SMS messages.
no issues, and so far the best fit phone for my needs. 4.0" display is just right for some1 to hold the phone and get the best of both worlds feel. and no reception issues or whatsoever. just the sms delay and call delay problem but that is rom problem. just make sure u get the froyo one then you're pretty much good to go
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no issues, and so far the best fit phone for my needs. 4.0" display is just right for some1 to hold the phone and get the best of both worlds feel.
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completely agree. had a 4.3" phone but felt just a bit too big/clumsy.
This phone is awesome, dont have any problems with missing calls or sms. Only negative aspect for me is 4.0 display, it`s a bit big for me, next phone would be 3.7 or 3.5.
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This phone is awesome, dont have any problems with missing calls or sms. Only negative aspect for me is 4.0 display, it`s a bit big for me, next phone would be 3.7 or 3.5.
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Really? The display is my favorite part I think!
It's absolutely perfect
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Really? The display is my favorite part I think!
It's absolutely perfect
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i absolutely agree. the screen is the best part of the phone. it's beautiful and the size is perfect for me.
a great phone, also he dive into a bucket with water and survive it
Phones amazing. Never experienced an issue and never needed to run a process that my phone couldn't handle. However using the stock ROM I did experience lag and slowdown yet after installing a custom ROM I've never experienced lag.
Just as others have said (although another voice could only convince you more ), I have had no problems with this phone. Does everything I need it to do, and does it very well!
Officially recommended by System92
With cm7 I feel like the phone is waiting for me, and I'm the one lagging lol
Best Android phone I've had so far, with excellent battery life on moderate usage (more than 2 days), screen is absolutely amazing, no lag so far, the stock Rom 2.3 is a bit dinky but that's ok as well. Bluetooth is absolutely great, I can actually connect and make phone calls with my car kit, with the phone in my pocket. Audio quality is great as well, the camera video recording is not what I was expecting, but I believe it's software thing...
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With cm7 I feel like the phone is waiting for me, and I'm the one lagging lol
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I hopped in my roflcopter
OK, thanks for all the reassuring replies. I've just placed my order for the phone so it should be with me in a day or so. I'm guessing it will be newer stock though and that it won't be rootable at this point but as long as it is able to send and receive calls/SMS then I'm happy to wait and see if an unlock solution crops up.
The new stock isn't root-able?
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The new stock isn't root-able?
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I may have mis-read (I've read that many pages while deciding which phone to buy) but I was led to believe that the newer phones have a different version of hboot that isn't yet rootable.
I am trying to persuade you from ROOTING your phone. Please don't do it!!
Here is my experience with Android.
I have had the following phones.
Nexus One
HTC EVO, HTC EVO Shift, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO 4G LTE
Samsung GS2, GS3 and Note II
I am currently on the S4.
Here is why I will never ever root another phone again. Once I rooted any of these phones from above the following happened.
Stability was trash and out the door. Battery life suffered. I always had issues with GPS. So many FC for the dumbest things also. Pictures never came close to the stock form. I had to work on it and update it constantly. So I decided to go with the Galaxy S4. I rooted the phone and started the same routine as before. So I started having problems again. After my battery life went to the life span of a GS2 I quit. I went completely back to stock.
So here is what stock did for me:
I went on vacation in the mountains. Guess what? No GPS Issues at all and boy was I happy because I would have been in big trouble without it. Calls work great without any issues. I took pictures of my kids and the places we have visited and they are simply stunning. I didn't even have to use my DSLR. The Videos I have taken and bright and beautiful. Never once through our entire vacation did I have any issues with the Phone. Ohh and another thing. The Signal is great on stock ROM. I get full 4G in my office and with absolutely every single ROM in here I barely had 3G in my office. If you want to get tethering then root the stock room and add just that simple feature and walla. Don't mess a perfect beautiful phone by rooting it. I am not trying to offend any of the developers on here at all. They will never be able to match Stock I am sorry but that is the truth. Not even One!!!
If you want to enjoy your phone stay STOCK.
Smh OK thanks for the input on xda where this is all custom ROM development/third party.
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Rooting caused these issues? Or unstable ROMs caused these issues?
I have rooted the most recent 3 phones that I've owned, and have installed custom ROMs on two of them - stable, with all the features that I wanted, and none of the bloat that I didn't.
My S4 is stock rooted, with the mods that I want - for now. I've tried CM on my GNex before this - even nightlies, and found that to be as stable as stock.
Yes, flashing custom ROMs always has the risk of unstable code if it hasn't been tested thoroughly. That's why ROMs like CM offer nightlies, and release candidates, and stable. Pick your poison.
If you are happy with staying stock, good for you!
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I am trying to persuade you from ROOTING your phone. Please don't do it!!
Here is my experience with Android.
I have had the following phones.
Nexus One
HTC EVO, HTC EVO Shift, HTC EVO 3D, HTC EVO 4G LTE
Samsung GS2, GS3 and Note II
I am currently on the S4.
Here is why I will never ever root another phone again. Once I rooted any of these phones from above the following happened.
Stability was trash and out the door. Battery life suffered. I always had issues with GPS. So many FC for the dumbest things also. Pictures never came close to the stock form. I had to work on it and update it constantly. So I decided to go with the Galaxy S4. I rooted the phone and started the same routine as before. So I started having problems again. After my battery life went to the life span of a GS2 I quit. I went completely back to stock.
So here is what stock did for me:
I went on vacation in the mountains. Guess what? No GPS Issues at all and boy was I happy because I would have been in big trouble without it. Calls work great without any issues. I took pictures of my kids and the places we have visited and they are simply stunning. I didn't even have to use my DSLR. The Videos I have taken and bright and beautiful. Never once through our entire vacation did I have any issues with the Phone. Ohh and another thing. The Signal is great on stock ROM. I get full 4G in my office and with absolutely every single ROM in here I barely had 3G in my office. If you want to get tethering then root the stock room and add just that simple feature and walla. Don't mess a perfect beautiful phone by rooting it. I am not trying to offend any of the developers on here at all. They will never be able to match Stock I am sorry but that is the truth. Not even One!!!
If you want to enjoy your phone stay STOCK.
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Im sorry to tell you this but rooting a phone only makes it better. I have rooted every android phone I have ever had and never had any problems. Also the issues you are having do not seem like root issues (unless you are flashing unstable rooms). Are you sure you know what you are doing because if you don't its like sky diving without a parachute.
Haha if this isn't a joke.Learn how to control that phone before you root it.What's funny is I see slot of people on xda always crying about certain things not working and my phone lags its the developers fault.Well I say **** that,know what your doing before you root.Learn what mods do what and if you have a problem,fix it.Do not let that hardware become smarter than the user.
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In related news, don't modify your car. Reliability becomes trash and out the door. Gas mileage suffers. You have to work on it and update it constantly.
If you want to enjoy your car stay STOCK.
you can be stock and rooted. my s4 is super awesome. not one complain... well except that it is too thin and light... sometime I feel like the a gust of wind will carry it away.
I think iOS would be perfect for you!
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Im glad you got off your soap box, ya feel better now. and thank you for your advice. I do understand your point of view, and this is why some people remain stock. Its just that you are going off of your own experience. Out of all those phones, and they're mostly decent devices, you couldnt manage to find 1 stable rom? The lesson in this is dont follow your lead, so Im not
I Agree with xxxicu sound like IOS fanboy. He forget to mention that there was someone on the mountains with a GS4 custom Rom that blew he Iphone5 away with features his phone can only dream of.
Prob got his iPhone hooked up to iTunes updating it again to fix security exploits and battery drains.
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Sorry to hear that rooting didn't work out for you. My experience has completely opposite to yours. My S4 (MF9 stock ROM rooted with the Hotspot mod) has been fantastic, especially compared to my previous phone, a EVO 3D (also rooted). I had a HTC ONE for a few days but IMO the S4 is better suited to my preferences. I even use the gestures and ir features. I live in L.A. and get great reception and pull in LTE consistently at the places I go. Based on Speedtest, I see no change in speeds on my phone when it was stock vs now that it is rooted. I travel (domestic) extensively and when using apps like Maps with Me, GPS works fine. I am scheduled to travel to Europe next month and to Asia at the end of the year so I cannot comment on how well it works when swapping SIM cards yet.
As for taking pics and video, I agree that the S4 has a great camera (and significantly better than the EVO 3D I mentioned) and it's convenient to take photos and record with. However there is no way it can replace my DSLR ( Nikon D800) nor do I expect it to. For what I personally do the quality of images when only using a cellphone is not acceptable. Of course if the photos you take on the phone meets your needs and are good enough, then that's all that matters.
Thanks man. I just unrooted my phone after reading the OP!
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mjs2011 said:
Thanks man. I just unrooted my phone after reading the OP!
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+1...I couldnt get back to stock recovery quick enough!!!
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I've been rooting my phones since the OG Epic (although didn't really get serious about it until the EG4T) and I've never encountered any of the issues listed.
I've run into problems on different custom ROMs but found in all those cases all you had to do was inform the developer and they usually put out a fix (if it was in fact ROM related).
It's a shame you've had such bad experiences but I think it's a little excessive to try and warn people away from rooting.
Rooting your phone has absolutely no impact on any of those things you are complaining about. What you do after you are rooted is a different story. I have been rooting for about 4 or 5 years and haven't had any of those problems.
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Rooting breaks phones. Guns kill people. Cars cause crashes. The devil made me do it. Did I miss anything?
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My only concern with this post is that a stock rom is not intrinsically better or worse no matter what phone you have
A stock rom is built until all bugs are fixed and then the devs are usually pushed to work on new software for the next device
A custom rom is built with donations and user enjoyment in mind
I mostly root to underclock and remove some bloat and I would not give up the knowledge of Linux, shell scripting, java, etc. . I have gained for the constant stability of my development device, which is usually my daily driver (separate the two if you're really that concerned)
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crawrj said:
Rooting your phone has absolutely no impact on any of those things you are complaining about. What you do after you are rooted is a different story. I have been rooting for about 4 or 5 years and haven't had any of those problems.
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Well put,
rooting = su or admin privileges
It only allows you to write to root directory it's your choice what to do after that
I'd be pissed if I bought a computer that I didn't have admin rights on, how is a phone any different?
Please don't feed the IOS loving troll.
I honestly dont get why people B---- and complain all the time about this. I cant stand non rooted phones. I like my wifi tether and plus the battery life is WAY better than stock if your smart about it and not keep it overclocked. its only common sense. Plus as for GPS fix you could use GPS status to wipe and download the GPS files which helps for some things. But this phone is fast on grabbing GPS signals unlike other phones so i never needed to use it. Plus some of the mods are worth rooting for. Sure this phone is awesome and can do a lot but rooting is awesome for multiple things like removing that trash that loads the phone up with useless garbage and awesome themes as they come in.
Even when i had that pathetic iPhone 4s i had to jailbreak it just to tolerate it otherwise i was throwing it out the window.
Greetings all,
Before you say try them all here is where I'm at. I have a new M7 with the latest over the air. I live in the sticks with a cap on my internet so that data is kinda precious. I can do this at work however I don't want to be stuck there if something gets botched.
Here's what I hoping to get out of a Rom.
A better battery life.
Volume keys skip songs.
Knock on or swipe on would be cool. I hate the button placement and less than tactile feel of the power button. My wife Moto X has only made that worse for me.
Really that's about it as I do like about evrthing else about the M7.
I've come from an Evo LTE and was on a 5.5 Rom which was great. The battery life was much better than my stock unrooted M7 that I have now.
I'm finally ready to unlock this phone and maybe go s-off however I've read that it's not necessary and also seen otherwise.
I've read myself stupid the last few weeks and only hoping for a small amount of advice
Also it seems that development for this phone is rather slow now. I was surprised coming from the Evo LTE. The Sprint version at least.
Best.
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Greetings,
My advice is read,read, and read some more until you find what you are looking for.
These types of threads are not allowed.
Thread closed.
Thanks,BD619