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Tmo Tab over At&t tab?

Hey everyone,
Just wondering if there any big difference between between the Tmobile and AT&T samsung tab?
Does one have better features or better pre-loaded apps? Are both easily rootable? If so, which is better?

The only internal hardware difference is that the T-Mobile tab supports the T-Mobile 3G bands whereas the ATT tab supports ATT bands. Also, the ATT tab will be better if you were to travel a lot in Europe as it can support European 3G frequencies.
There are also some changes in design on the back of the tab (mostly in regards to color). As for preinstalled apps, I an unsure as I do not own a T-Mobile tab.

synplex said:
Hey everyone,
Just wondering if there any big difference between between the Tmobile and AT&T samsung tab?
Does one have better features or better pre-loaded apps? Are both easily rootable? If so, which is better?
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The T-Mobile one will work with T-Mobiles faster 3G HSPA+ network. Not at 4G though, just faster than 3G. However, this it not available everywhere.
In the EU, the T-Mobile version will only support Edge, whereas the AT&T version will support 3G.

The most important piece is AT&T version could be used as a phone w Euro firmware and an existing AT&T SIM card. Sounded like you're not an AT&T user but it's doable.
For Tmob tab, you could also set it up as a phone but you will need a data plan then setup GV+IPKall+SIPDroid if you don't want to pay for Skype.

caveman999 said:
The only internal hardware difference is that the T-Mobile tab supports the T-Mobile 3G bands whereas the ATT tab supports ATT bands. Also, the ATT tab will be better if you were to travel a lot in Europe as it can support European 3G frequencies.
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The TMo Tab supports European 3G frequencies too.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
The TMo Tab supports European 3G frequencies too.
Regards,
Dave
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It can?
I know it wont wont in the UK, as their 3G frequency is 2100 and i believe the T-Mobile tab uses a different frequency for uploads vs downloads (1700 and 2100).

dh010447 said:
It can?
I know it wont wont in the UK, as their 3G frequency is 2100 and i believe the T-Mobile tab uses a different frequency for uploads vs downloads (1700 and 2100).
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It will work in the UK.
Read the specs. Follow the link, and click on specs.
The TMo US Tab supports:
850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100)
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The UK, and the pretty much the world outside of North America, uses UMTS Band I.
Regards,
Dave
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
It will work in the UK.
Read the specs. Follow the link, and click on specs.
The TMo US Tab supports:
The UK, and the pretty much the world outside of North America, uses UMTS Band I.
Regards,
Dave
Regards,
Dave
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I got the specs from Samsung's website, they are posted as:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900; UMTS : Band IV(1700), I(2100) & Wi-Fi
I read the UMTS bands as the AWS 1700/2100, (1700Mhz u/l; 2100Mhz d/l) not AWS(1700/2100) and UMTS 2100 (so only able to download on the 2100, not upload on this frequency).
It does seem a little unclear, but if it really does support 2100Mhz upload and download, that would be awesome!! Would also mean you could unlock it and put a 3G AT&T Sim in it...
Anyone know this for sure?

dh010447 said:
if it really does support 2100Mhz upload and download, that would be awesome!! Would also mean you could unlock it and put a 3G AT&T Sim in it...
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Doesn't Att 3g run off of 850/1900Mhz, not 2100?

ap3604 said:
Doesn't Att 3g run off of 850/1900Mhz, not 2100?
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Yeah - your right, 1900 not 2100. Getting a bit carried away....

dh010447 said:
I read the UMTS bands as the AWS 1700/2100, (1700Mhz u/l; 2100Mhz d/l) not AWS(1700/2100) and UMTS 2100 (so only able to download on the 2100, not upload on this frequency).
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Trust me, it's fine.
Band IV is AWS and completely separate from Band I. Even the Samsung website explicitly mentions the bands it supports. European 3G uses Band I so it will work.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Trust me, it's fine.
Band IV is AWS and completely separate from Band I. Even the Samsung website explicitly mentions the bands it supports. European 3G uses Band I so it will work.
Regards,
Dave
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That is awesome.. The only thing, other than cost, holding me back was that it might not work in the UK.
Now I just have to convince myself that i will get $350 + monthly data use out of it. Price, though expensive, is not really an issue but if I bought it and didn't use it, i would get into trouble from the missus.... :s

Flash T-Mobile Tab to support AT&T Voice
FYI - I followed Rotohammer's directions and i flashed a T-Mobile Tab, then unlocked it, and after I inserted my AT&T sim, I had phone and Edge:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886714
However, I'm trying to figure out if I can load a new modem and get AT&T 3G on this tab (bought from T-Mobile)? I tried the bell modem but it didn't work. Am I safe to assume that the T-Mobile hardware will support AT&T 3G and I only need to find the right software?
Thanks - these forums are great... Sorry if this is the wrong spot.

caryawilson said:
FYI - I followed Rotohammer's directions and i flashed a T-Mobile Tab, then unlocked it, and after I inserted my AT&T sim, I had phone and Edge:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886714
However, I'm trying to figure out if I can load a new modem and get AT&T 3G on this tab (bought from T-Mobile)? I tried the bell modem but it didn't work. Am I safe to assume that the T-Mobile hardware will support AT&T 3G and I only need to find the right software?
Thanks - these forums are great... Sorry if this is the wrong spot.
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Don't waste your time and or brick your Tab. Tmo Tab will never get 3G on an ATT sim card because it doesn't do 3G on 850/1900mhz band. Hardware doesn't support ATT's 3G bands.

dh010447 said:
That is awesome.. The only thing, other than cost, holding me back was that it might not work in the UK.
Now I just have to convince myself that i will get $350 + monthly data use out of it. Price, though expensive, is not really an issue but if I bought it and didn't use it, i would get into trouble from the missus.... :s
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I understand the feeling. I initially went with the Tmobile version but at a data rate coming up to almost $70 after taxes ($59.99 unlimited data for not having my phone with Tmobile), I took it back, paid the $10 restocking fee and went with the at&t version. After roto's rom to enable phone i just plop in my existing unlimited (grandfathered) at&t sim and i'm golden.
Either way I did the analysis....and i believe it was after like 8 months the AT&T version comes out cheaper and if i recall that was WITH the 2GB data plan included.
Excel is your friend!

trinikartel said:
I initially went with the Tmobile version but at a data rate coming up to almost $70 after taxes ($59.99 unlimited data for not having my phone with Tmobile), I took it back, paid the $10 restocking fee and went with the at&t version.
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Huh? $59.99 per month?
I thought it was just $39.99/mo for 5GB of data on T-mo even if the tablet was your only device...

trinikartel said:
I understand the feeling. I initially went with the Tmobile version but at a data rate coming up to almost $70 after taxes ($59.99 unlimited data for not having my phone with Tmobile), I took it back, paid the $10 restocking fee and went with the at&t version. After roto's rom to enable phone i just plop in my existing unlimited (grandfathered) at&t sim and i'm golden.
Either way I did the analysis....and i believe it was after like 8 months the AT&T version comes out cheaper and if i recall that was WITH the 2GB data plan included.
Excel is your friend!
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Tmo does not have a $59.99 data-only plan. It's $39.99 for 5GB, after which you're throttled past the 5GB allotment. No overages.
But i prefer AT&T's $24.99 2GB plan (don't need calling, already have a phone). The price is just right. Still looking to trade my Tmo Tab for an ATT one...

Yup caught me off guard. The the tmo salesman explained it to me instore. If or when I take my phone with tmo I will get a $10 discount on the data plan. Fishy but whatever, I was never a t-mobile customer so I just went along with it but yes normally its 39.99

Bumping this as I was going to get a WiFi only TAB but with its inferior hardware I'm looking at a 3G TAB.
On Amazon the Tmobile version is a lot cheaper at $475 than the AT&T version at $550, not sure why?
Anyway I'll be using it in Europe so it seems the Tmobile version would do the trick with its 2100Mhz frequency?

webvan said:
Bumping this as I was going to get a WiFi only TAB but with its inferior hardware I'm looking at a 3G TAB.
On Amazon the Tmobile version is a lot cheaper at $475 than the AT&T version at $550, not sure why?
Anyway I'll be using it in Europe so it seems the Tmobile version would do the trick with its 2100Mhz frequency?
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The AT&T version has always been more expensive...just the way it's been priced I guess. If your only or mainly going to be using it in Europe you will be fine with the T-Mobile version as it will run 3G on 900/2100 over there
If you're keen on digging around with different roms and are comfortable flashing around then go for it. But if you're looking for a smooth out of the box experience off the bat (with calling etc enable) I'd wait and pick up one over there....just my 2 cents

[Q] Can at&t Nexus One work on T-Mobile?

I'm on at&t. I have an N1 that I bought full price, off-contract.
I've now purchased a Nexus S and planned on giving my Nexus 1 to my girlfriend who's on T-Mobile. I *thought* the phone was supposed to be unlocked but there's obviously lots of confusion about what "unlocked" means.
I've found that t-mobile N1's wont work on at&t 3g, but I've found nothing concerning the other way around.
Could someone give me a clue if this will work?

The phone will work fine, but only on EDGE speeds. There are two different phones because T-Mobile and AT&T use two different frequencies for their 3G networks.

Please read the FAQ, question 13.

Why would you think it could work one way and not the other? If it cant work on at&t because of hardware the same rules apply the other way around otherwise there one only be one model.

Thanks for the replies.
So is there a way I can get this at&t unit to work fully on t-mobile? It appears not. I feel mislead.

cozbaldwin said:
Thanks for the replies.
So is there a way I can get this at&t unit to work fully on t-mobile? It appears not. I feel mislead.
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no, there is no way to get it to get 4g speeds
you need the tmo nexus 1
the att versions are somewhat rare btw...

icon57 said:
no, there is no way to get it to get 4g speeds
you need the tmo nexus 1
the att versions are somewhat rare btw...
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Nexus One is not capable of "4G" speeds anyways, not matter what network / device model you use. It has a theoretical max download of 7.2Mbps and does not utilize a HSPA+ radio which is required to access Tmo / AT&T's "4G" network.

Rod3 said:
Nexus One is not capable of "4G" speeds anyways, not matter what network / device model you use. It has a theoretical max download of 7.2Mbps and does not utilize a HSPA+ radio which is required to access Tmo / AT&T's "4G" network.
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yes true, my bad i meant to say 3g
the att model is limited to 2g only when on tmo network

[Q] HSPA+ on T-Mobile

Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!

.ili.music.ili. said:
Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!
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International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.

ranjan.alva said:
International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.
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I don't want LTE. I want T-Mobile HSPA+. Will it work by putting a sim card in it?

then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already

But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?

.ili.music.ili. said:
But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?
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If you're lucky enough to be in the right area, yes

Well it's just to make phone calls. It's okay if I don't have internet connectivity everywhere. I am going to be buying it off a guy on craigslist in a place where I normally get service... he's selling it to me for only $450. Kind of nervous that it's a fake/scam.

leppo said:
then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already
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Any idea what areas? Mine arrives tomorrow, live in PHX.

Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.

gedster314 said:
Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.
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This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far

guitarplayerone said:
This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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So there's no such hack for the international note? I don't understand how an internationally unlocked phone doesn't support USA GSM highspeed. My T-Mobile G1 supports HSPA+.
Does AT&T 4G work with the international Note? I have it now and I'm only getting 2G. It's god awfully slow.

If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
No 4G

avetny said:
If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
No 4G
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On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?

guitarplayerone said:
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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I'm on the Left Coast, maybe should l see if 1900Mhz is in my area.
To be honest, I'm actually happy with me my broadband sim on AT&T. I just had the LTE code added to my account and I got a little boost in speed on HSPA+. I'm seeing 8Mbps down and the speed seems more stable then before. It does seem to be ramping up to max speed a little slower and I have a firm upload cap at about 1Mbps, before I occasionally would hit 1.5 Mbps. HSPA+ does seem to do Skype and Google Voice pretty well, I've been managing to use a a data sim as a phone quite successfully.

.ili.music.ili. said:
On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?
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The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.

ChicoKiri said:
The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.
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Wrong. The International Note has a pentaband radio. It's the same modem as the Galaxy Nexus GSM.
It just so happens that the AT&T Note shares the almost the same hardware with the T-Mobile S2 which makes it easier in terms of getting the modem from the T-Mobile S2 to work on the AT&T Note. This is why how they got the hack working on the AT&T Note.
This DOES NOT WORK on the Int Galaxy Note as we are running an Exynos/Infineon chip/baseband.

Okay. Instead of arguing with each other about who can spout-off the N7000's and i717's specs most accurately, why don't we just give the OP a simple, comprehensive answer?
Okay. To answer your question, the N7000 (International Note) will work perfectly fine on T-Mobile US. Phone calls, SMS messages, and data will all work perfectly. The issue, however, is not with the services you can get, but the quality of the services you can get. Even though the N7000 is an "international" GSM device, T-Mobile uses irregular frequencies for it's HSPA+ network. Specifically, instead of supporting HSPA+ on a single frequency, T-Mobile's HSPA+ service is divided between 1700MHz and 2100MHz in what is referred to as 1700/2100 AWS (Advanced Wireless Spectrum). Because AWS is a rare and unusual implementation of HSPA+, almost no "international" phone models support it. In most cases, only phones meant specifically for North America support it. What this means, simply, is that the N7000 will never be capable of using T-Mobile's HSPA+ network (unless you have the rare privelege of being in a 1900MHz HSPA+ area).
Now, just because the N7000 won't let you use T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+, it doesn't mean you can't have your cake and eat it too. Granted, it is a small concession, but the i717 is a "more than adequate" smartphone and will (with some minor modification) make neat work of connecting to T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+ network. Preliminary speed tests even suggest that the i717 is faster on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network than the N7000 is on AT&T's HSPA+ network. So, if you're willing to sacrifice the added speed and power the Exynos SoC offers, you could gain T-Mobile 3G compatibility and NFC to boot just by opting for the i717; which, I might add, is only $649.99 off-contract at AT&T.
If I can help clarify any confusion or answer any questions, please feel free to ask. I know there are a lot of people out there who feel very strongly about which version of the Note is superior. However, it's my opinion that when you come across someone who's undecided, you should simply give them the facts and allow them to make their own decision. Passionately mixing facts with opinion only serves to further confuse things.
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That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650

.ili.music.ili. said:
That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650
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You're right. Sorry. I fat-fingered it. It's corrected now.
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i live in boston and decided to call tmobile about the 3/4g coverage. supposedly the 1900 band is now in use for tmobile 3g. so i cant get 4g but i could get 3g...now i have to hunt down a non att branded note. the map the lady referred to was dated june 6th 2012 so im hoping her stuff is right.
hate to buy a not and still be stuck on edge.

HTC One 32gb Unlocked Edition

http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
32GB Unlocked GSM $574.99
Sim unlocked GSM version with 32GB (not bootloader unlocked)
Nice! Good price.

crawlgsx said:
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
32GB Unlocked GSM $574.99
Sim unlocked GSM version with 32GB (not bootloader unlocked)
Nice! Good price.
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Nice! I'm really happy to see that it's less then what the carriers are charging! I'll be buying this one

PapaRhino said:
Nice! I'm really happy to see that it's less then what the carriers are charging! I'll be buying this one
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I REALLY didn't want silver but I want the phone and this price was far less (considering no tax) even after overnight shipping and I want it , so I ordered this one. 64gb is a waste for me anyway .

When i try to buy it, there are login system? How can log in it?
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will this work in india , we dont have LTE here but 3g and gsm ..!!! i dont know there was some confusion about the bands that they are giving ..!!
and whats different from the original version else than the unlocked thing.

crawlgsx said:
I REALLY didn't want silver but I want the phone and this price was far less (considering no tax) even after overnight shipping and I want it , so I ordered this one. 64gb is a waste for me anyway .
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I'll be getting mine shipped overnight too! $593.54 for this unlocked masterpiece is a great price!

PapaRhino said:
I'll be getting mine shipped overnight too! $593.54 for this unlocked masterpiece is a great price!
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It sure is!

If I'm on T-mobile, does it make sense getting this or waiting for the T-mobile version? A little confused by this. A little reading said that the dev version is more tuned for ATT's frequencies.

Joshnor713 said:
If I'm on T-mobile, does it make sense getting this or waiting for the T-mobile version? A little confused by this. A little reading said that the dev version is more tuned for ATT's frequencies.
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Get the Tmobile version, this will note work on most HSPA+ or LTE Tmob frequencies.

crawlgsx said:
Get the Tmobile version, this will note work on most HSPA+ or LTE Tmob frequencies.
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Something's weird about it. It says $199 for 2-year service agreement. T-MO isn't doing contracts anymore. And then for the full price, the 32GB is $649. Doesn't sound right.

Joshnor713 said:
Something's weird about it. It says $199 for 2-year service agreement. T-MO isn't doing contracts anymore. And then for the full price, the 32GB is $649. Doesn't sound right.
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I am not sure about that.

crawlgsx said:
I am not sure about that.
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What are you not sure about?

Joshnor713 said:
What are you not sure about?
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Why HTC has it priced that way for Tmobile, or Tmobile's contract status. I have never used Tmobile.

So this unlocked version can use most of the frequencies Verizon uses for their network, will I be able to drop a sim card into the phone and have it work on the network? And if I can't, what's the reasoning behind it? Ie hardware needs to support all bands etc.

emepror said:
So this unlocked version can use most of the frequencies Verizon uses for their network, will I be able to drop a sim card into the phone and have it work on the network? And if I can't, what's the reasoning behind it? Ie hardware needs to support all bands etc.
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You can't use this phone on Verizon Network, that's simply because this is a GSM device and Verizon offers their services(Voice & 3G data) on CDMA network. Although some of the supported LTE frequencies you see with this device may have the Verizon's LTE frequency.

st_7 said:
You can't use this phone on Verizon Network, that's simply because this is a GSM device and Verizon offers their services(Voice & 3G data) on CDMA network. Although some of the supported LTE frequencies you see with this device may have the Verizon's LTE frequency.
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Verizon uses a SIM card for their 4G LTE networks. I think it would be usable as a data-only device, for those of us who like to stick to Google Voice or another VOIP service. I've heard it's cheaper to go with a data only service anyways, so that's probably the route I'll be going if I can get a confirmation.

kanwar144 said:
will this work in india , we dont have LTE here but 3g and gsm ..!!! i dont know there was some confusion about the bands that they are giving ..!!
and whats different from the original version else than the unlocked thing.
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Yes you can use this handset in our country(India), since it supports GSM bands as well as HSPA/WCDMA 2100 Mhz frequency, which is what being used by the operators in India to provide 3G services. So, you will have no problem in using this handset with any GSM operator in India even if you want to use 3G. But even after 4G services being rolled out in our country(some parts like Kolkata & Bangalore already have it) it can't be used for 4G in India, because as of now, our carriers choose 2300 Mhz frequency for rolling out 4G along with a completely different implemented technology(TD-LTE) whereas all of the US carriers use FD-LTE technology in implementing their 4G networks. Hence all the LTE phones manufactured for US will support only FD-LTE technology, but that may change as dual technology supported modems will come to the market in future.
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nrkid9 said:
Verizon uses a SIM card for their 4G LTE networks. I think it would be usable as a data-only device, for those of us who like to stick to Google Voice or another VOIP service. I've heard it's cheaper to go with a data only service anyways, so that's probably the route I'll be going if I can get a confirmation.
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I don't have an exact idea how the US network carriers operate their plans(I only know the frequencies on which the US carriers provide services). And as I said you will see the Verizon 4G frequencies in the supported frequencies list of HTC One 32GB unlocked version sold by HTC. It's better to check with your carrier.

crawlgsx said:
Get the Tmobile version, this will note work on most HSPA+ or LTE Tmob frequencies.
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Not that I have all the answers...but seems like there's a bit of misinformation in this thread.
The developer edition does seem to support TMOUS LTE frequencies, but it does not have AWS on WCDMA (3G). It may be possible to install TMOUS radio on it and get AWS support, but I'm just speculating.
There is also a TMOUS preorder, that one likely has different frequencies (it's listed on a page somewhere, but no on the pre-order page). This happens to be $199 with 2 year contract, or $649 without contract. Now you ask, "But TMOUS UnCarrier!?!" That only applies to plans purchased from TMOUS, not a 3rd party vendor (HTC).

OCedHrt said:
Not that I have all the answers...but seems like there's a bit of misinformation in this thread.
The developer edition does seem to support TMOUS LTE frequencies, but it does not have AWS on WCDMA (3G). It may be possible to install TMOUS radio on it and get AWS support, but I'm just speculating.
There is also a TMOUS preorder, that one likely has different frequencies (it's listed on a page somewhere, but no on the pre-order page). This happens to be $199 with 2 year contract, or $649 without contract. Now you ask, "But TMOUS UnCarrier!?!" That only applies to plans purchased from TMOUS, not a 3rd party vendor (HTC).
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It has been discussed to death on other threads, this information is not incorrect. This phone supports Tmobile 1900MHZ LTE, which Tmobile only has in limited parts of the country.
The Unlocked 32GB edition does NOT have 1700mhz. (nor does the Dev edition) which is what MOST of Tmobile depends on right now.

crawlgsx said:
It has been discussed to death on other threads, this information is not incorrect. This phone supporst Tmobile 1900MHZ LTE, which Tmobile only has in limited parts of the country.
The Unlocked 32GB edition does NOT have 1700mhz. (nor does the Dev edition) which is what MOST of Tmobile depends on right now.
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Interesting...I live in nyc and I'm pretty sure its going to be refarmed
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[Q] Unlocked / T-Mobile Moto X on AT&T?

This seems like a dumb question, but I'm trying to figure out if an unlocked Moto X off of the Motomaker site will fully work on AT&T. I know Motorola sells the "T-Mobile" version as the unlocked one on their site, which is why I put both in the subject. I can't tell by the specs I'm finding if the unlocked version will work or not, and I'm not real familiar with the exact bands needed on Tmobile and AT&T (we just switched from being long time Verizon users). Any help would be appreciated as I'm supposed to pick it up today from another guy!

jntdroid said:
...I'm trying to figure out if an unlocked Moto X off of the Motomaker site will fully work on AT&T...
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Yes.

dew.man said:
Yes.
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Thanks - so if you're paying full retail, there's really zero reason to get the AT&T version vs. the unlocked version off of the motomaker site, it would seem anyway...

jntdroid said:
Thanks - so if you're paying full retail, there's really zero reason to get the AT&T version vs. the unlocked version off of the motomaker site, it would seem anyway...
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Technically, the AT&T version does support one additional LTE band that the TMobile and DevEdition do not. HOWEVER, I've read that that specific band is not used in the US, and my experience has been consistent in that my tmo variant always has LTE coverage whenever my AT&T iPhone does.

I'm leaving Verizon with a T-Mobile motomaker moto x which I'll try on TMs no contract plan. If it doesn't work out, I can always give ATT a try. Seems like a no-brainer to use the TM version.

dew.man said:
Technically, the AT&T version does support one additional LTE band that the TMobile and DevEdition do not. HOWEVER, I've read that that specific band is not used in the US, and my experience has been consistent in that my tmo variant always has LTE coverage whenever my AT&T iPhone does.
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Interesting - trying to dig up some info on 850. But even still, it covers all the other major ones, and worst case scenario you're falling back onto their HSPA+ which is pretty good in and of itself. I live in the DFW area, and I'm here 99% of the time. So I'm sure it won't be an issue.

jntdroid said:
Interesting - trying to dig up some info on 850. But even still, it covers all the other major ones, and worst case scenario you're falling back onto their HSPA+ which is pretty good in and of itself. I live in the DFW area, and I'm here 99% of the time. So I'm sure it won't be an issue.
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The band that the TMO moto x doesn't have is band 5 LTE I think. AT&T only uses 4 and 7 in the US. You're going to be fine getting the tmobile one no matter what GSM carrier you choose.

dew.man said:
Technically, the AT&T version does support one additional LTE band that the TMobile and DevEdition do not. HOWEVER, I've read that that specific band is not used in the US, and my experience has been consistent in that my tmo variant always has LTE coverage whenever my AT&T iPhone does.
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Actually its two LTE bands (5&7) the T-Mo and GSM Dev X lack compared to the ATT US model. But you are right, they are said to be used outside the USA only, so if you don't plan on traveling, you wont miss them.
See the discussion in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546466
And the since the T-Mo is sim unlocked, and can be bootloader unlocked, Right, if you are paying full retail, there is no reason to buy the ATT (which is sim locked and can't unlock bootloader).

KidJoe said:
Actually its two LTE bands (5&7) the T-Mo and GSM Dev X lack compared to the ATT US model.
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Can you please provide a reference to where the AT&T model supports band 7?
Everything I've read shows 5 but not 7...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2511121
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-Moto-X_id7885
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info

The hardware in the AT&T model supports LTE band 7, all XT1058s do. However last time I checked the FCC docs it wasn't approved to use it in the US. In 4.2.2 it wasn't enabled in the AT&T build, in 4.4 I believe that it is though. It is used all across Canada and in some other countries, not sure if the US will ever use it though.

dew.man said:
Can you please provide a reference to where the AT&T model supports band 7?
Everything I've read shows 5 but not 7...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2511121
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-Moto-X_id7885
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
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https://plus.google.com/114874428605785658638/posts/fkFtiVpXyHi John Renaldi of Motorola Mobility Inc. You have to scroll down as I can't seem to link to his post/followup on Nov 27.
While the TMO version does in fact have all the AT&T LTE bands (your AT&T SIM will work), the hardware itself does not contain all the same bands as the AT&T version. Our TMO version supports: LTE Band 02; LTE Band 04; LTE Band 17 and the AT&T version supports LTE Band 02; LTE Band 04; LTE Band 05; LTE Band 07; LTE Band 17
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KidJoe said:
https://plus.google.com/114874428605785658638/posts/fkFtiVpXyHi John Renaldi of Motorola Mobility Inc. You have to scroll down as I can't seem to link to his post/followup on Nov 27.
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Cool. Interesting how that's the only place it's mentioned (contrary to all the published specs). Wonder if it was just a slip up or if everybody else got it wrong!?
Oh well, like we both said, won't matter in the US
Ironically enough, I ended up disabling my LTE as HSPDA is fast enough and I get much better battery life with it off...