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Hello,
I am looking to buy a used nexus one... I have found some deals on line
BUT my only concern is: how can I differentiate between the two different versions of the phone? My carrier is FIDO and I have a data plan with them, so I want the phone that allows 3G speeds with FIDO.
I want to know how to differentiate between the two because many sellers online dont know the difference themselves since they dont have a data plan. I would rather avoid going through the trouble of meeting the person and testing my SIM in the phone. If there was anyway I could tell them to read something off the phone that tells the phone apart.?
As of March 16, 2010, there are two versions of the Nexus One. Both versions of the Nexus One cover most major GSM and 3G providers in the US, Europe and Asia. On both phones, the GSM radio frequencies covered are 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, and 1900 MHz. The original Nexus One also came along with UMTS frequency bands 1 (2100 MHz), 4 (1700 MHz), and 8 (900 MHz).[39], allowing it to access 3G throughout Europe, as well as on T-Mobile USA and WIND Mobile in Canada. The second version of the Nexus One supports UMTS frequency bands 1 (2100 MHz), 2 (1900 MHz), and 5 (850 MHz), allowing it to access 3G in most of Europe, as well as on AT&T Mobility in the USA and Rogers Wireless, Fido Solutions, Bell Mobility, and TELUS Mobility in Canada.
Thanks any help is appreciated.

For FIDO you' need At&t version of the phone.
Behind the battery:
FCC ID NM88PB99110 for Belus/Frogideros/AT&T version
FCC ID NM88PB99100 for AWS version
Courtesy of HowardForums.com

Mr ILIA said:
For FIDO you' need At&t version of the phone.
Behind the battery:
FCC ID NM88PB99110 for Belus/Frogideros/AT&T version
FCC ID NM88PB99100 for AWS version
Courtesy of HowardForums.com
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Hey thanks man. Thats exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.

aziz831 said:
Hello,
I am looking to buy a used nexus one... I have found some deals on line
BUT my only concern is: how can I differentiate between the two different versions of the phone? My carrier is FIDO and I have a data plan with them, so I want the phone that allows 3G speeds with FIDO.
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No, you dont.
You want the one that is only 2G with robbers.
The reason for this is that you will ultimately want to drop the ripoff and go with better phone service. No sense limiting yourself.
3G with robbers won't help you with anything except causing data overages. This will cost you horribly. 2G is a nice way to reduce/prevent data overages, and with robbers' data rates, this is pretty much MANDATORY.

lbcoder said:
No, you dont.
You want the one that is only 2G with robbers.
The reason for this is that you will ultimately want to drop the ripoff and go with better phone service. No sense limiting yourself.
3G with robbers won't help you with anything except causing data overages. This will cost you horribly. 2G is a nice way to reduce/prevent data overages, and with robbers' data rates, this is pretty much MANDATORY.
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Hey stupid, did you happen to read the original post saying he has a data plan and wants to use 3G?
OP: Don't listen to lbcoder, you clearly stated you wanted to keep your 3G data so the AT&T one pointed out by Mr ILIA is the right phone.

Yeah, he's clearly angry with the cell phones thugs in Canada. And I don't blame him, but I currently can't get a cheaper deal with Wind than what Fido/Rogers gives me. (For my usage.)
Here's hoping Wind is really a great success though, then it won't take people 5 hours on the phone to get a good deal anymore.
But if you do want an unlimited everything plan, and live in the few cities that Wind is in, and don't plan to travel to other cities in Canada often. Then seriously consider them when your time is up.

Taknarosh said:
Hey stupid, did you happen to read the original post saying he has a data plan and wants to use 3G?
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LOL!!! That's a style!

Awesome - HD7 on AT&T!

Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.

Why do you want to spend so much of money and use it on edge only network ?

why do you want to ruin his experience since apparently he hasn't noticed yet ...

unlockMe said:
why do you want to ruin his experience since apparently he hasn't noticed yet ...
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lol (10 chara)

tjy said:
Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.
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How did you get the unlock code so fast?

tjy said:
Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.
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So exchange works no problem. How about data connection to the Internet ans speed?

tjy said:
Picked up my HD7 from the local T-Mobile Store, acquired my unlock code, applied successfully and was up and running (Exchange and all) within 30 minutes on AT&T.
T.J.
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Oh and the tmobile store today told me unless i was a customer they couldnt sell it to me? $449

Biggzz said:
Oh and the tmobile store today told me unless i was a customer they couldnt sell it to me? $449
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Course they said that. They want the money from the contract/upgrade. Call up corporate and let them know the store would not sell you a phone. There are no restrictions on phones being sold outright, but sometimes, because these stores are not corporate stores, they can enforce their own rules, but reporting them can sometimes make them change their mind.

vikramdhani said:
Why do you want to spend so much of money and use it on edge only network ?
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how SLOW is edge? Is like like a very bad wifi connection? Hehehe... No really, I want to know.

No smartphone is worth the pain of Edge!

I don't know about at&t, but with t-mobile, edge is like not having an internet connection. About 100 kbps and alot of auto updates time out.

Does AT&T 3G require a special frequency that isn't covered by Quad Band? Or is it that T-Mobile 3G has a special, non Quad Band frequency?

Jonno2343 said:
Does AT&T 3G require a special frequency that isn't covered by Quad Band? Or is it that T-Mobile 3G has a special, non Quad Band frequency?
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there are two band sets for gsm phones, GPRS/EDGE and UMTS:3G/3G+/3.5G/HSDPA/HUDPA (sometimes these abbreviations are used individually to denote 3G service. This is not correct as they all mean a different type of 3G, the most generic term is UMTS).
Sometimes HTC phones have different band sets for different countries.
HTC HD7 Europe:
* HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
* GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HTC HD7 T-mobile USA Version:
* UMTS 2100MHz AWS1700/2100MHz
* GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
For GSM there is no issue, 850 & 1900 are USA, 900 & 1900 are EU, but all the phones cover everything:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
In the USA, UMTS 3G for tmobile is on AWS 1700/2100 only
In the USA other providers use 850 with some using 1900
For example, the HTC Surround on AT&T uses:
* UMTS 2100/1900/850
* GSM GPRS EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
In conclusion:
1. Buying a tmobile HTC in the USA means you can only get 3G signal when using the tmobile network. When travelling abroad you might be able to use 3G, dependent on country.
2. Buying a AT&T HTC in the USA means you can only get 3G signal in the US when using the AT&T network but not on tmobile 3G. When travelling abroad you might be able to use 3G, dependent on country.
3. Buying an HTC HD7 from europe will be able to use neither the tmobile or AT&T network's 3G signal (as AWS 1700/2100mhz is different from normal 2100mhz)
Interestingly, what you may have noticed is that the 2100 3G band is common to all phones, this is also the most widely used 3G band in the world.
Therefore all these phones are fine with 3G everywhere in the world except the USA where the 2 leading GSM networks do not, for some reason, use the 2100mhz band as duplex *
* common question, how is UMTS 2100mhz different from UMTS AWS 2100mhz?
Simple, normal 3G UMTS 2100mhz is duplex (i.e. up and down link use the same frequency). In AWS, the up and downlink use different frequencies, AWS 1700/2100mhz means that tmobile uses 1710-1755 Mhz down & 2110-2155 MHz Up.
Only two networks in the world use AWS, tmobile in the USA and WIND in Canada.
in the rest of the world, where tmobile has a presense, it uses the "normal" 2100 3G band!

Wow, thanks very much colonel, that's an excellent explanation!!
So the T-Mobile HD7 is basically the Europe version with an additional radio (or whatever) to connect to the T-Mobile 3G network?

Jonno2343 said:
Wow, thanks very much colonel, that's an excellent explanation!!
So the T-Mobile HD7 is basically the Europe version with an additional radio (or whatever) to connect to the T-Mobile 3G network?
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it has AWS 1700/2100mhz instead of the EU 900mhz
it retains the normal 2100mhz, although this is useless in the USA
rgds

colonel said:
it has AWS 1700/2100mhz instead of the EU 900mhz
it retains the normal 2100mhz, although this is useless in the USA
rgds
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Excellent, thanks for the clarification!
It seems that in South Africa all 3G goes over the 2.1GHz frequency but some operators are starting with 900MHz so all will be fine.
Can't wait to get one now!

vikramdhani said:
Why do you want to spend so much of money and use it on edge only network ?
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Because its the carrier my work pays for Im mostly connected via Wi-Fi anyway.
T.J.

tissot201 said:
How did you get the unlock code so fast?
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http://www.HTCimeiUnlock.com/
Had the code in 10 minutes. Was $25 because of the new device I assume, they advertise 15.
T.J.

[Q] HSPA+ on T-Mobile

Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!

.ili.music.ili. said:
Hi, if I were to get an unlocked Galaxy Note GSM, would I have to do anything fancy to get HSPA+ (4G) to work on it?
Would it be as easy as to pop in my SIM card and go to work like on any T-Mobile device?
Please respond back soon because I am trying to buy one tonight off a guy on craigslist, I don't want to get ripped off!
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International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.

ranjan.alva said:
International Version Galaxy Note N7000 doesn't support 4G [LTE] Network.
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I don't want LTE. I want T-Mobile HSPA+. Will it work by putting a sim card in it?

then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already

But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?

.ili.music.ili. said:
But it is as simply as popping in my sim card?
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If you're lucky enough to be in the right area, yes

Well it's just to make phone calls. It's okay if I don't have internet connectivity everywhere. I am going to be buying it off a guy on craigslist in a place where I normally get service... he's selling it to me for only $450. Kind of nervous that it's a fake/scam.

leppo said:
then you'll need to wait until T-Mobile repurposes their 1900MHz band for HSPA+. I don't know if they're doing it for the whole country, but it has started to happen in some areas already
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Any idea what areas? Mine arrives tomorrow, live in PHX.

Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.

gedster314 said:
Sorry but don't count on anything more the edge on TMobile, unless you are really lucky and you are in a 1900 Mhz area. If you want TMobile buy an AT&T Note and you will have to do some hacking to get the radio working on TMobile.
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This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far

guitarplayerone said:
This.
Don't expect the entire US to get 1900Mhz 3G on tmobile, since the radio spectrum is subdivided differently depending on the cities.
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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So there's no such hack for the international note? I don't understand how an internationally unlocked phone doesn't support USA GSM highspeed. My T-Mobile G1 supports HSPA+.
Does AT&T 4G work with the international Note? I have it now and I'm only getting 2G. It's god awfully slow.

If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
No 4G

avetny said:
If you want to buy Note N7000 you will get EDGE on Tmobile.
No 3G
No 4G
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On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?

guitarplayerone said:
Mostly the west coast and pennsylvania so far
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I'm on the Left Coast, maybe should l see if 1900Mhz is in my area.
To be honest, I'm actually happy with me my broadband sim on AT&T. I just had the LTE code added to my account and I got a little boost in speed on HSPA+. I'm seeing 8Mbps down and the speed seems more stable then before. It does seem to be ramping up to max speed a little slower and I have a firm upload cap at about 1Mbps, before I occasionally would hit 1.5 Mbps. HSPA+ does seem to do Skype and Google Voice pretty well, I've been managing to use a a data sim as a phone quite successfully.

.ili.music.ili. said:
On AT&T does it get 4G? There will never be a hack like there was on the AT&T model?
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The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.

ChicoKiri said:
The international Note gets HSPA+ on the AT&T no problem. I'm currently enjoying my H+ icon with my Red Pocket sim card.
The International and American Notes have entirely different hardware inside. The American Note has a pentaband radio that can be reflashed for either AT&T or T-Mobile frequencies. The International note does not.
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Wrong. The International Note has a pentaband radio. It's the same modem as the Galaxy Nexus GSM.
It just so happens that the AT&T Note shares the almost the same hardware with the T-Mobile S2 which makes it easier in terms of getting the modem from the T-Mobile S2 to work on the AT&T Note. This is why how they got the hack working on the AT&T Note.
This DOES NOT WORK on the Int Galaxy Note as we are running an Exynos/Infineon chip/baseband.

Okay. Instead of arguing with each other about who can spout-off the N7000's and i717's specs most accurately, why don't we just give the OP a simple, comprehensive answer?
Okay. To answer your question, the N7000 (International Note) will work perfectly fine on T-Mobile US. Phone calls, SMS messages, and data will all work perfectly. The issue, however, is not with the services you can get, but the quality of the services you can get. Even though the N7000 is an "international" GSM device, T-Mobile uses irregular frequencies for it's HSPA+ network. Specifically, instead of supporting HSPA+ on a single frequency, T-Mobile's HSPA+ service is divided between 1700MHz and 2100MHz in what is referred to as 1700/2100 AWS (Advanced Wireless Spectrum). Because AWS is a rare and unusual implementation of HSPA+, almost no "international" phone models support it. In most cases, only phones meant specifically for North America support it. What this means, simply, is that the N7000 will never be capable of using T-Mobile's HSPA+ network (unless you have the rare privelege of being in a 1900MHz HSPA+ area).
Now, just because the N7000 won't let you use T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+, it doesn't mean you can't have your cake and eat it too. Granted, it is a small concession, but the i717 is a "more than adequate" smartphone and will (with some minor modification) make neat work of connecting to T-Mobile's AWS HSPA+ network. Preliminary speed tests even suggest that the i717 is faster on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network than the N7000 is on AT&T's HSPA+ network. So, if you're willing to sacrifice the added speed and power the Exynos SoC offers, you could gain T-Mobile 3G compatibility and NFC to boot just by opting for the i717; which, I might add, is only $649.99 off-contract at AT&T.
If I can help clarify any confusion or answer any questions, please feel free to ask. I know there are a lot of people out there who feel very strongly about which version of the Note is superior. However, it's my opinion that when you come across someone who's undecided, you should simply give them the facts and allow them to make their own decision. Passionately mixing facts with opinion only serves to further confuse things.
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That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650

.ili.music.ili. said:
That is a really nice post. Too bad I already got the GSM Note. Trying to sell it so badly...
BTW unlocked at AT&T is $650
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You're right. Sorry. I fat-fingered it. It's corrected now.
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i live in boston and decided to call tmobile about the 3/4g coverage. supposedly the 1900 band is now in use for tmobile 3g. so i cant get 4g but i could get 3g...now i have to hunt down a non att branded note. the map the lady referred to was dated june 6th 2012 so im hoping her stuff is right.
hate to buy a not and still be stuck on edge.

[Q] Will unlocked T-Mobile HTC 8X work on AT&T?

Here is the spec sheet: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=Windows-Phone-8X-by-HTC
I don't know the carrier standards very well. After I unlock it, will it work on AT&T and will I get full speed data?
Thanks in advance,
Barry

BarryF said:
Here is the spec sheet: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=Windows-Phone-8X-by-HTC
I don't know the carrier standards very well. After I unlock it, will it work on AT&T and will I get full speed data?
Thanks in advance,
Barry
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Looks like the T-Mobile version does not have LTE, so that will not work.
UTMS [3G] HSPA(+) [3.5G] should work as the T-mobile version has the same bands as the AT&T version.

matthew5025 said:
Looks like the T-Mobile version does not have LTE, so that will not work.
UTMS [3G] HSPA(+) [3.5G] should work as the T-mobile version has the same bands as the AT&T version.
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Thanks very much for your reply. If I unlocked the AT&T model instead, would I get max data speed on both carriers?
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/de...htc-8gb-california-blue.html#fbid=G0E5YWfcKDA

BarryF said:
Thanks very much for your reply. If I unlocked the AT&T model instead, would I get max data speed on both carriers?
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/de...htc-8gb-california-blue.html#fbid=G0E5YWfcKDA
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The AT&T model seems to lack the 1700 band T-Mobile uses, although all the rest of the frequency are present, and will most likely to work with T-Mobile's upcoming LTE network. If in your area, T-Mobile uses the 1700Mhz frequency, you will have a problem.

matthew5025 said:
The AT&T model seems to lack the 1700 band T-Mobile uses, although all the rest of the frequency are present, and will most likely to work with T-Mobile's upcoming LTE network. If in your area, T-Mobile uses the 1700Mhz frequency, you will have a problem.
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I'm going to buy the AT&T model since it has LTE (and is $100 cheaper). It's just a dev phone so it's not the end of the world if I don't get 3G. I'll post here how it goes.

BarryF said:
I'm going to buy the AT&T model since it has LTE (and is $100 cheaper). It's just a dev phone so it's not the end of the world if I don't get 3G. I'll post here how it goes.
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Enjoy your new phone. Don't mind me asking, but why did you decide to get the 8X over the 920?

matthew5025 said:
Enjoy your new phone. Don't mind me asking, but why did you decide to get the 8X over the 920?
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Because all the Nokia phones are heavy bricks. Honestly they are the heaviest smartphones I've ever held.

BarryF said:
Because all the Nokia phones are heavy bricks. Honestly they are the heaviest smartphones I've ever held.
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Barry,
You probably bought your phone by now. For whatever it's worth, I just checked with HTC about Developer Edition of the "One" and although it lists all the frequencies in the spec sheet, they said it will only get 2G speeds on the T-Mobile network. Yes, that is 2G. Not 3G, not UMTS either, and of course no LTE. You might be better off with the AT&T version then. On the other hand, I just signed up with AT&T 4 months ago and have nothing but disconnects, dropped calls, garbled speech or no data whatsoever in my area. I have an HTC One X+. To me, it looks like they totally did an awesome job in marketing, when I was getting excellent reception and none of the above problems with T-Mobile. Again, it could be the area or AT&T's network.
I hope that helps.
Take care,
MW

i have an algerithim for t mobile 8x i would like for you to see barry it unlocks
BarryF said:
Here is the spec sheet: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=Windows-Phone-8X-by-HTC
I don't know the carrier standards very well. After I unlock it, will it work on AT&T and will I get full speed data?
Thanks in advance,
Barry
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barry I know im new but I have tested an algorithm on two t mobile window 8 phones and unlocked them and I would like to share with you and see what you think

HTC One 32gb Unlocked Edition

http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
32GB Unlocked GSM $574.99
Sim unlocked GSM version with 32GB (not bootloader unlocked)
Nice! Good price.

crawlgsx said:
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
32GB Unlocked GSM $574.99
Sim unlocked GSM version with 32GB (not bootloader unlocked)
Nice! Good price.
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Nice! I'm really happy to see that it's less then what the carriers are charging! I'll be buying this one

PapaRhino said:
Nice! I'm really happy to see that it's less then what the carriers are charging! I'll be buying this one
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I REALLY didn't want silver but I want the phone and this price was far less (considering no tax) even after overnight shipping and I want it , so I ordered this one. 64gb is a waste for me anyway .

When i try to buy it, there are login system? How can log in it?
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will this work in india , we dont have LTE here but 3g and gsm ..!!! i dont know there was some confusion about the bands that they are giving ..!!
and whats different from the original version else than the unlocked thing.

crawlgsx said:
I REALLY didn't want silver but I want the phone and this price was far less (considering no tax) even after overnight shipping and I want it , so I ordered this one. 64gb is a waste for me anyway .
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I'll be getting mine shipped overnight too! $593.54 for this unlocked masterpiece is a great price!

PapaRhino said:
I'll be getting mine shipped overnight too! $593.54 for this unlocked masterpiece is a great price!
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It sure is!

If I'm on T-mobile, does it make sense getting this or waiting for the T-mobile version? A little confused by this. A little reading said that the dev version is more tuned for ATT's frequencies.

Joshnor713 said:
If I'm on T-mobile, does it make sense getting this or waiting for the T-mobile version? A little confused by this. A little reading said that the dev version is more tuned for ATT's frequencies.
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Get the Tmobile version, this will note work on most HSPA+ or LTE Tmob frequencies.

crawlgsx said:
Get the Tmobile version, this will note work on most HSPA+ or LTE Tmob frequencies.
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Something's weird about it. It says $199 for 2-year service agreement. T-MO isn't doing contracts anymore. And then for the full price, the 32GB is $649. Doesn't sound right.

Joshnor713 said:
Something's weird about it. It says $199 for 2-year service agreement. T-MO isn't doing contracts anymore. And then for the full price, the 32GB is $649. Doesn't sound right.
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I am not sure about that.

crawlgsx said:
I am not sure about that.
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What are you not sure about?

Joshnor713 said:
What are you not sure about?
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Why HTC has it priced that way for Tmobile, or Tmobile's contract status. I have never used Tmobile.

So this unlocked version can use most of the frequencies Verizon uses for their network, will I be able to drop a sim card into the phone and have it work on the network? And if I can't, what's the reasoning behind it? Ie hardware needs to support all bands etc.

emepror said:
So this unlocked version can use most of the frequencies Verizon uses for their network, will I be able to drop a sim card into the phone and have it work on the network? And if I can't, what's the reasoning behind it? Ie hardware needs to support all bands etc.
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You can't use this phone on Verizon Network, that's simply because this is a GSM device and Verizon offers their services(Voice & 3G data) on CDMA network. Although some of the supported LTE frequencies you see with this device may have the Verizon's LTE frequency.

st_7 said:
You can't use this phone on Verizon Network, that's simply because this is a GSM device and Verizon offers their services(Voice & 3G data) on CDMA network. Although some of the supported LTE frequencies you see with this device may have the Verizon's LTE frequency.
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Verizon uses a SIM card for their 4G LTE networks. I think it would be usable as a data-only device, for those of us who like to stick to Google Voice or another VOIP service. I've heard it's cheaper to go with a data only service anyways, so that's probably the route I'll be going if I can get a confirmation.

kanwar144 said:
will this work in india , we dont have LTE here but 3g and gsm ..!!! i dont know there was some confusion about the bands that they are giving ..!!
and whats different from the original version else than the unlocked thing.
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Yes you can use this handset in our country(India), since it supports GSM bands as well as HSPA/WCDMA 2100 Mhz frequency, which is what being used by the operators in India to provide 3G services. So, you will have no problem in using this handset with any GSM operator in India even if you want to use 3G. But even after 4G services being rolled out in our country(some parts like Kolkata & Bangalore already have it) it can't be used for 4G in India, because as of now, our carriers choose 2300 Mhz frequency for rolling out 4G along with a completely different implemented technology(TD-LTE) whereas all of the US carriers use FD-LTE technology in implementing their 4G networks. Hence all the LTE phones manufactured for US will support only FD-LTE technology, but that may change as dual technology supported modems will come to the market in future.
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nrkid9 said:
Verizon uses a SIM card for their 4G LTE networks. I think it would be usable as a data-only device, for those of us who like to stick to Google Voice or another VOIP service. I've heard it's cheaper to go with a data only service anyways, so that's probably the route I'll be going if I can get a confirmation.
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I don't have an exact idea how the US network carriers operate their plans(I only know the frequencies on which the US carriers provide services). And as I said you will see the Verizon 4G frequencies in the supported frequencies list of HTC One 32GB unlocked version sold by HTC. It's better to check with your carrier.

crawlgsx said:
Get the Tmobile version, this will note work on most HSPA+ or LTE Tmob frequencies.
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Not that I have all the answers...but seems like there's a bit of misinformation in this thread.
The developer edition does seem to support TMOUS LTE frequencies, but it does not have AWS on WCDMA (3G). It may be possible to install TMOUS radio on it and get AWS support, but I'm just speculating.
There is also a TMOUS preorder, that one likely has different frequencies (it's listed on a page somewhere, but no on the pre-order page). This happens to be $199 with 2 year contract, or $649 without contract. Now you ask, "But TMOUS UnCarrier!?!" That only applies to plans purchased from TMOUS, not a 3rd party vendor (HTC).

OCedHrt said:
Not that I have all the answers...but seems like there's a bit of misinformation in this thread.
The developer edition does seem to support TMOUS LTE frequencies, but it does not have AWS on WCDMA (3G). It may be possible to install TMOUS radio on it and get AWS support, but I'm just speculating.
There is also a TMOUS preorder, that one likely has different frequencies (it's listed on a page somewhere, but no on the pre-order page). This happens to be $199 with 2 year contract, or $649 without contract. Now you ask, "But TMOUS UnCarrier!?!" That only applies to plans purchased from TMOUS, not a 3rd party vendor (HTC).
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It has been discussed to death on other threads, this information is not incorrect. This phone supports Tmobile 1900MHZ LTE, which Tmobile only has in limited parts of the country.
The Unlocked 32GB edition does NOT have 1700mhz. (nor does the Dev edition) which is what MOST of Tmobile depends on right now.

crawlgsx said:
It has been discussed to death on other threads, this information is not incorrect. This phone supporst Tmobile 1900MHZ LTE, which Tmobile only has in limited parts of the country.
The Unlocked 32GB edition does NOT have 1700mhz. (nor does the Dev edition) which is what MOST of Tmobile depends on right now.
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Interesting...I live in nyc and I'm pretty sure its going to be refarmed
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