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Has anyone tried a stylus pen on the SGT? Was thinking about getting the DAGi stylus for my tab but before I did I wanted to know if anyone had any advice to give based on past experiences.
Regards,
Tyler
Boxwave!
I picked up a black Boxwave IPad 'Styra' (pen one end and stylus the other). I find it very accurate. Also tried a Pogo but found it pretty poor (too squishy and kind of fuzzy tip). If you search forvreviews youwill find heaps. All I need now is a decent handwriting recognition app. Tried several in the market and not impressed.
hey buddy i ordered a Dagi, ill recieve it in about a week. i liked the perciseness of it. so ill keep u posted how it is once i get it
Get the red dot pen by HTC. That's what I recommend, anyway. It's extremely precise. Just search google for "red dot stylus htc".
Anyone knows whether there is any palm rejection supported software out there for note taking on the tab? been seeing that the hardware supports it, but i dont think there is any good software to utilize it yet..
What like how the htc flyer notes app works? That uses specilist hardware so it wont work on the tab
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Hi all HTC did NOT make the pen for the flyer it was n-trig take a look at there web site just Google n-trig
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The screen for GT is supplied by Atmel and through web there was an interview with Atmel's product marketing Binay Bajaj saying
"There's something called "palm rejection." We support that. And unintended touches, which you can reject. We call it "grip," touching the screen from the side. We have something called "grip suppression." In spite of the grip, you can still use the device."
So I was hoping that the hardware for GT already supports it, but there is no software out in the market utilizing this feature yet.. unless I missed it. And yes, flyer's digitizer is supplied by n-trig and thats a different matter.
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Anyone knows whether there is any palm rejection supported software out there for note taking on the tab? been seeing that the hardware supports it, but i dont think there is any good software to utilize it yet..
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so the palm rejection isn't just automatic on the tab at all times? it has to be supported in specific apps?
that woudl suck if that's true. I figured it was just like that all the time.
either way we need some useful handwriting or other custom writing (jot?) style apps for the tab/android. otherwise a stylus is sort of an inconvenient gimmick, isn't it?
is it all the same type of stylus head in the market? from the after market product of stylus? i tried once but it feels of lag of motion, this an eraser head type (flat on the surface)
I got the "just mobile AluPen". Rounded eraser head type, but glides very easily. I got it for highlighting in PDFs.
Works quite ok. But not as well as my finger!
When you use it for Swype, the trace on the letters looks okay, but the recognition is way worse than with the finger. And you have to press a bit to get a good trace.
Stopped using it.
I got targus tablet stylus pen for 11€ including shipping.
It works okay, but its not as useful as I thought, finger is still working better, one has to press to hard and capacititve styluses aren't accurate enough.
Fingers are better...
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Fingers are better...
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sure they are, but even used a phone in -10°C?
Finger becomes useless when wet in rain or due to sweat hence we need a stylus as a backup in those extreme conditions.
even used a phone in -10°C?
Finger becomes useless when wet in rain or due to sweat hence we need a stylus as a backup in those extreme conditions
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Capacitive screens are rubbish at low temps, question: do styluses work with gloves on or do they need direct contact with the skin as a current path?
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do styluses work with gloves on or do they need direct contact with the skin as a current path?
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If you have capacitive stylus then they work with gloves you don't need direct skin contact.
Pogo stylus pen are the best for this purpose.
http://www.tenonedesign.com/stylus.php
Pogo stylus pen are the best for this purpose
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Tanks, I just order one from Amazon, I was going to buy an Trent battery pack anyway so I added the pogo to my trolley too
Regards
P
Hi. The only thingb tat I hate about capacitive screen is, stylusses are very bad. They are not giving the real pen experience.
I used Pogo Sketch and Boxwave Stylusses. Which you find from these links:
http://www.tenonedesign.com/sketch.php
http://www.boxwave.com/products/capacitivestylus/apple-ipad-capacitive-stylus_3779.htm
Boxwave is significantly better that Pogo. You can write anything with Boxwave stylus with that big comfortably. With Pogo, you need to write bigger to get your handwriting recognized by the device.
I like take notes everytime in everywhere, so I need a capacitive stylus with a sharper tip.
I found MORE/REAL stylus cap: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1004382302/more-real-stylus-cap
and Nokia Capacitive Stylus SU-39: http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/all-accessories/carrying-and-styling/carrying-cases/nokia-capacitive-stylus-su-39
Also if the were a Pentel Airpen like Capacitive stylus, it would be so much nicer, beacause Pentel captures the strokes of your hand-drawings.
Is there any capacitive stylus with sharper tip that you suggest?
Thanks in advance.
Have you guys seen the HTC Flyer tablet presentation at the Barcelon WMC?
It features a stylus with a very pointy tip, which should work on a capacitive screen.
The rep mentioned it was new technology though.
If I am not mistaken, it also had two buttons for highlighting or writing functionality.
What do you think? Would that stylus also work on the Adam?
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litening said:
Have you guys seen the HTC Flyer tablet presentation at the Barcelon WMC?
It features a stylus with a very pointy tip, which should work on a capacitive screen.
The rep mentioned it was new technology though.
If I am not mistaken, it also had two buttons for highlighting or writing functionality.
What do you think? Would that stylus also work on the Adam?
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When I saw the HTC Flyer, I felt the same way as you. However, its tecnology is not just stylus, but with its N-Trig digitilizer. You can find more info about its digitilizer from here:
http://www.n-trig.com/Default.aspx
ifaraday stylus(es) - my purchase
Just to throw my two cents in:
I spend all day using a Wacom tablet and photoshop. So when I ordered my Adam I fully intended to use it for content creation, whether that's drawing or just writing. And I want a stylus.
I've been doing some hunting, and I stumbled on this:
ifaraday.com
Its obviously a home-based business, but this guy nailed it. I'm ordering the art pack. Do a google search just on ifaraday and you can watch the YouTube review of the caracature artist using the basic one.
and one of the review articles from another artist loves the artist pack.
I'll let you know my personal review when they come in.
Wizrd23.
@Wizrd23 I completely agree! That stylus seems amazing. Looking forward to your review!
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Just to throw my two cents in:
I spend all day using a Wacom tablet and photoshop. So when I ordered my Adam I fully intended to use it for content creation, whether that's drawing or just writing. And I want a stylus.
I've been doing some hunting, and I stumbled on this:
ifaraday.com
Its obviously a home-based business, but this guy nailed it. I'm ordering the art pack. Do a google search just on ifaraday and you can watch the YouTube review of the caracature artist using the basic one.
and one of the review articles from another artist loves the artist pack.
I'll let you know my personal review when they come in.
Wizrd23.
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@Wizrd23, did you get the stylus in the end? And was it worth it? Please let us know so we might be satisfied customers too.
Thanks
I reply this using iFaraday stylus and graffiti.
So far so good. It tracks nicely
Lol this is dorky but its actually something i wish someone had brough to my attention.
While you're sitting at your pc, or hunkered down watching a movie I found that putting my wallet on top of my nexus acts like those fancy smart cases. then i don't ever have to push a button, i just lift my wallet... SCREEN ON.... put my wallet down.... SCREEN OFF!!! obviously its the built in magnetic sensors meant for their cases, but i hate cases, and so if you have anything you carry around regularly that has a magnet, it just slightly more convenient
Hmm this seems to be interesting. I remember seeing those "surfaces" of slim magnets in a shop few days ago. If you buy those, then you just need some deco on the top if you'd like (I'm thinking of using an old T-shirt with some cool pic or writing on it), glue it on the top = custom smart case
Great find! I will try and find those
Edit: This is what I mean, but a little thinner, and of course bigger to fit the tablet. This is a magnet I have on a fridge. I can't test it however since my N7 hasn't arrived yet (expecting it in a few days).
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2rwk66so0w5vn8/IMG_20121112_202143.jpg
Considering you're not using a case... I'm going to be blunt and say what you are doing is incredibly stupid. There is NOTHING convenient about that, instead of SIMPLY pressing the button on the side you now have another object which isn't even attached to the tablet to keep track of and move around, instead of SIMPLY pressing a button.
HOLY CRAP WHY!
Yes I know that, but what is wrong with keeping it covered? Protecting from dust, or for deco? I don't think anything is that useless, especially these DIY creative stuff, and yes I'm going to be blunt and say that your post is incredibly stupid and pointless
Why don't you take your nexus 7 and look at it... compare the amount of physical buttons to your phone 3 years ago. Heck compare the amount of physical buttons to the galaxy s3 that came out mere months ago. you're being narrow minded if you honestly can't see the value of anything that would be an effective alternative to a hardware button.
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Yes I know that, but what is wrong with keeping it covered? Protecting from dust, or for deco? I don't think anything is that useless, especially these DIY creative stuff, and yes I'm going to be blunt and say that your post is incredibly stupid and pointless
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Ha i like it. People carry change in their pockets all day, why not a little quarter sized magnet!
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Considering you're not using a case... I'm going to be blunt and say what you are doing is incredibly stupid. There is NOTHING convenient about that, instead of SIMPLY pressing the button on the side you now have another object which isn't even attached to the tablet to keep track of and move around, instead of SIMPLY pressing a button.
HOLY CRAP WHY!
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You know, it might be in your best interest to keep your opinions to yourself, because obviously you don't know how to word them nicely.
I'm surprised that there isn't a (decent) case (not the crap you see on ebay) on the market that makes use of the mag feature.
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I'm surprised that there isn't a (decent) case (not the crap you see on ebay) on the market that makes use of the mag feature.
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http://www.speckproducts.com/fitfolio-for-google-nexus-7.html
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I'm surprised that there isn't a (decent) case (not the crap you see on ebay) on the market that makes use of the mag feature.
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I am spectacularly happy with my RooCase:
http://www.amazon.com/rooCASE-Multi-Angle-Leather-Google-Automatically/dp/B008F05Q2E
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Yes I know that, but what is wrong with keeping it covered? Protecting from dust, or for deco? I don't think anything is that useless, especially these DIY creative stuff, and yes I'm going to be blunt and say that your post is incredibly stupid and pointless
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The sensor is under the glass... you can't see it. What are you protecting it from?
How is putting a magnet or a magnet in your wallet on your phone creative? How is that any better than pressing a button on the side of the phone? How?
Taking full advantage of the sensor is using an actual case or cover instead of having to take a i
magnet off and on it. Hey guys! I put a Apple sticker on the back of my N7, that is creative!
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Hey guys! I put a Apple sticker on the back of my N7, that is creative!
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Take my money!
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I can't actually believe I just read this, and I just hope you are a massive troll. I am not going to present not even a piece of mountain of arguments I can open now. I'll just move away from you before I get ban. Your post brought nothing slightly productive here.
For the end of this: if you'd like to keep your sensor protected (and I'll ignore the fact that I was actually referring to the screen) just move away from this topic and lock your device with the power button. That is not the purpose of this thread anyway. Thanks.
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I'm surprised that there isn't a (decent) case (not the crap you see on ebay) on the market that makes use of the mag feature.
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I have a Blurex case for my htc flyer. The nexus version is a "smart" case (has a magnet) . You can pick it up for $15. Check amazon.
You can find reviews on amazon and in xda nexus accessories forum. If you want something high end, use smart case as your search terms in the forum.
PS Blurex has at least 2 models. I prefer the slim case.
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I'm surprised that there isn't a (decent) case (not the crap you see on ebay) on the market that makes use of the mag feature.
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I love my Blurex folio case. Very well made and classy looking.
http://www.amazon.com/Blurex-Multi-...352771289&sr=8-2&keywords=nexus+7+blurex+case
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I can't actually believe I just read this, and I just hope you are a massive troll. I am not going to present not even a piece of mountain of arguments I can open now. I'll just move away from you before I get ban. Your post brought nothing slightly productive here.
For the end of this: if you'd like to keep your sensor protected (and I'll ignore the fact that I was actually referring to the screen) just move away from this topic and lock your device with the power button. That is not the purpose of this thread anyway. Thanks.
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If this, well written very useful thread makes u so mad that you are worried that you will get banned why don't you check out this website, it may calm you down. www.hasbro.com/mylittlepony
EDIT; or you could check out this website. www.apple.com people at this website are just like you, they don't like to do things in fun and creative ways. They like to do the same boring thing, over and over and over.
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I'm surprised that there isn't a (decent) case (not the crap you see on ebay) on the market that makes use of the mag feature.
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Despite the low price, I love my Poetic case. It has a good quality leather shell, uses the magnets, and has a hand strap and stylus holder. Best $6 case ever.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008IEGSGU/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1352782305&sr=8-4&pi=SL75
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I'm failing to see why everyone is attacking the OP. If you don't think its convenient, don't do it. If you think it's a stupid idea, don't do it. We all live in free countries, right? OP was sharing some information, and a button- sized magnet sounds like a pretty cool idea for people who don't use cases
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This was fun lol. I'd like to refer all aformentioned haters to the 4th word of my post "dorky". I knew full well this would only be helpful to a very small few people who carried a money clip with a magnet in it, or i guess those who just carry magnets out of habit. But i'd like to explain the physics behind why i though this was easier.
physical button method:
as we all know a force applied mandates an opposing force, especially to remain static. so what it comes down to is you having to pick up your nexus 7 because the button is slightly underneath the bezel, and if you have big enough hands squeezing it, thus applying equal and opposing forces to turn on your screen.
Wallet/button magnet method:
picking up your small wallet, which weights less than your tablet by many times, this reduces overall work required, is accomplished in a bit shorter time, and probably leaves a smaller CO2 footprint on our environment (i just watched a ted talk).
Thanks for all you who could just enjoy a friendly tip and not lose your heads over it. There are litterally thousands of threads just in this nexus 7 forum that are even more useless than what i poted
Also i have a strong dislike for cases on my devices, but I will admit i've never been more tempted than by some of the ones you guys shared, much thanks for the heads up!
I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
Bump.. anyone have experience with any of these??
Khomo Keyboard Case
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I purchased the Khomo keyboard case and I was going to return it. They actually gave it to me half off to review it so it cost me like $17. I can tell you the build quality is pretty nice along with its look but, it has some stability issues. The keyboard was terrible since I had already purchased the zagg flex keyboard/stand. After using zaggs keyboard the khomo keyboard pales in comparison to the functionality of what the zagg keyboard offers. These are tablets not laptops and the keyboard should be designed with that in mind. The screen on/off function works as it is supposed to when closed and opened. Also I noticed that it was hard to close fully. The magnetic area had to be pulled tightly to align with the other magnets for it to close securely. It closes easily without the nexus 10 inside but with it the added depth just causes it to take a little more effort than what should be needed to fully close it. The keyboard is removable and bluetooth connectivity worked as it should with no issues. I guess it may be a good deal for some but after using the Zagg Flex Keyboard I would easily recommend it even without it being a case over the Khomo. I got the Zagg for $37 and made a thread a while back of where to find it if still available at that price. If requested I can still upload the first reaction video I made of it to youtube.
Also rotation to portrait is iffy because you cannot get it in a position I would deem useful. If I want portrait I pretty much want it standin straight not at an angle. Videos are uploading though for those who may want to look at it. Thanks to Khomo for the discount and support them. They may produce better designs after a few drafts.
Thanks momulah.. it seems like the khomo has the same removable keyboard as the 3 other ones I linked.
What problems are you having with the keyboard? Just the F keys or are there other issues?
Which ZAGG keyboard by the way? It seems like they have several, ranging from $70-$100+ and they look possibly less portable?
I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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I already bought my Poetic Hardback and I'm pretty impressed, so I'm feeling less reluctant about buying 3rd party cased.
Has anyone gotten a case with a built in / removable keyboard?
It looks like the keyboard on these 4 are exactly the same. Only the case may be different. My only concern with the keyboard is that in a review someone noted that there's F1-12 keys that don't do anything unless you hold down fn -- seems like bad design.
These seem to be the top keyboard cases for the Nexus 10:
Poetic
KHOMO
Ionic
MoKo
Ionic and MoKo look pretty much the same. They seem superior to the Poetic in that they don't cover the Notification LED. And the KHOM seems the most different with its swivel.
Anyone have experience with any of them? Or see other differences?
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I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Komodo Rogue;36292779
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I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: . Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
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Hi there,
I would recomment looking for a real bluetooth keyboard, like logitech k810 amazon DOT com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Illuminated-Keyboard-Smartphones/dp/B0099SMFVQ
As it's my first post, i cannot link outside xda..
Cheers
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Here's a link to a review, the first link on google when I searched for k810: PC mag review
They gave it a great review, thanks for the suggestion It looks really nice, I personally love chiclet keys, and illuminated keys make a big difference.
But still, I feel like having mouse input would be incredibly helpful, especially if it supports gestures.
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I have the... um, haha wow, it really is hard to tell, but I believe I have the Moko case. I was going to say Poetic, but my notification LED definitely isn't blocked. Although I'm not too disappointed with it, I wouldn't order it again; not only does it add bulk (which I anticipated, and doesn't bother me too much), but it adds significant weight, and gives it an unwieldy feel. How are you supposed to read books/current/magazines with the case? You find yourself pressing the keys when you swing it around to the back. Fortunately, the keyboard is incredibly easy to pull on and off (this is the saving grace, otherwise I would have returned mine), but the case feels a little.. "off" without the keyboard.
It offers decent protection, and the keyboard is acceptable. When you're sitting at a desk, or lying down with the keyboard on your stomach and the case stand is holding up the N10 on a nearby table, it's pretty nice, although the omission of a mouse means you still need to poke at the screen or pair a mouse through a USB OTG adapter (there is probably an easier way, but I haven't figured it out yet). However, for me, those situations are outnumbered by the times I want to use it sitting on a bench, bus, metro, standing, reading in bed, etc.
If I were to buy another case, I would go for the best slim case available. I think my ideal case would be something like a gel case with a simple "flap" screen protector and a plastic kickstand molded into the back of the gel case. That's enough protection for me to feel comfortable putting it into my messenger bag without worrying too much about scrapes.
I would then buy a nice bluetooth keyboard, preferably one that is somewhat compact, but I would sooner get a quality, bulky keyboard than a flimsy and cheap but portable keyboard. In fact, I recently saw one at Best Buy that looked PERFECT... here, it's this: logitech K400. Two in one is so convenient, and IME, Logitech typically makes good products, so that's definitely the keyboard I would get... N10 plugged into a TV and that keyboard would be like a pseudo Google TV!
Anyway, even with all that said, I'm happy enough with the case that I'm keeping it. It's a good price for bluetooth keyboard, okay case, and it fits together nicely. I suggest thinking about how you use your nexus 10, and if the pseudo-netbook form factor makes sense for you, then I would suggest the Moko without reservation. If not, consider going for your favorite case and your favorite bluetooth keyboard separately.
A request: if you get the k400 keyboard, PM me and let me know if it's as good as I thought!
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Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
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I just received my poetic dual case and the quality is quite excellent. The leather looks nice and the tablet fits snuggly. Keys also feel pretty good.
Unfortunately, I'll likely be returning this and looking for something just slightly better. There are two big problems. The first of which you've mentioned before: there are android function keys but they are hidden underneath F1-12 and you have to press the FN key in conjunction to access the Android function keys. Since this is supposedely designed specifically for the Nexus 10 I find this to be a huge oversight. The biggest issue, however, is that the right shift key is moved away from the keyboard separated by both the 'end' and up arrow key. I have no idea why this was done seeing as the left shift is where it should be bordering the 'z' key. I've attached an image below. Perhaps given some more time I could get used to it (in fact, I'm already naturally using left shift exclusively while typing this post). I want to like this case; for the price it's simply phenomenal. Very sturdy, setup and connection was a breeze and it looks good. I'll report back in a few more days.
Edit: there is also another awkward keyboard layout problem. The home key is wedged in between the main keyboard and enter key. It appears that the manufacturer tried to squeeze a full sized keyboard into the dimensions of the tablet and made some...questionable design choices.
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Thanks for your post!
Interestingly enough, your Poetic case looks like it has a small hole for the notification light. Maybe the Amazon picture is wrong.
I rarely (if ever) use the right shift key, so that's not an issue for me. But the squeezing of the home key to the left of the enter key is really an odd design decision! I use Home & End a lot on my laptop, so it's nice that the keyboard includes them (usually they're first to be left off!) but the placement is indeed questionable.
Clearly it's a generic keyboard due to the odd F key layout. Who needs F1-12 keys on an Android-specific keyboard? I just wonder if there's a way to hack the firmware or maybe even something on the tablet side to reverse the need to press the Fn key. Seems like it would be a nice project, but I'm not sure I have the time for it.
@Komodo - I agree that all keyboard cases are going to be bulkier. I do already have a normal case, so I think I would just switch off between keyboard case and the normal one depending on my needs for that day. So that being said, for my uses, a slim/portable keyboard is more useful.
CazeW said:
Also been thinking of the K400 but the problem with it is that it uses Logitech Unifying, which means you have to use an OTG cable to connect the adapter to. Personally I don't want that dangling around everytime I want to use the keyboard.
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I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA. But I bought it for my laptop when doubling as a HTPC.
I don't see the point in a touch pad. far easier to touch the screen, I prefer a mouse over touchpad too.
I just ordered the iHome Universal Bluetooth Keyboard then I can have the option to use an usb sd card or a mouse simultaneously. I think staying with bluetooth is a better way to go.
Use code A4C5OFF and standard shipping, $2, for a $24.75 out the door price.
For me, a keyboard is a seldom used item with a tablet. It was hard to find reviews for it but at more than half the price of the logitech android keyboard, why not?
I wonder if this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper will solve the problem with having to press fn + function-key to use the android specific keys?
It was recommended for a different keyboard in another thread. Anyone with the khomo/poetic/etc keyboard able to test? The app description said there is a demo too.
Icyman said:
I have the K400. It works with the Nexus 10 & 7 and HTC Rezound & DNA.
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
Was anyone able to try the app to see if it can improve the keyboard?
Maybe momulah or tct08 or Komodo Rogue ?
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How did you get it to work with Nexus 10? I bought an OTG-cable-adapter but it does not work. I tried a G11, which works perfectly. And I checked it on my desktop (Win 7), where it works. So there should be an issue with either the Nexus or Android itself. Do I need root and a custom rom?
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I've read that the K400 keyboard is supported by version 4.3 and later.
I just ordered my Nexus 10, and now I am looking for a solution that would allow my to type with Nexus 10 resting on my lap. It seems keyboard cases are not fit for this purpose, am I right? Another option I was thinking about was some bluetooth wireless keyboard with a stand (like Logitech). But I am afraid this one will not be fit also, - it is probably best for typing at the desk or smth.
Could anyone please give me your feedbacks if whatever you got for you Nexus 10 allows you to type on you lap?
elgar said:
I just ordered my Nexus 10, and now I am looking for a solution that would allow my to type with Nexus 10 resting on my lap. It seems keyboard cases are not fit for this purpose, am I right? Another option I was thinking about was some bluetooth wireless keyboard with a stand (like Logitech). But I am afraid this one will not be fit also, - it is probably best for typing at the desk or smth.
Could anyone please give me your feedbacks if whatever you got for you Nexus 10 allows you to type on you lap?
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This one has a great feel while typing, very similar to a laptop. It is not a case, but the built in stand gives a secure feeling while in use on your lap. It does go to sleep when not being used, but reconnects quickly.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007YUX1LE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Ken401 said:
This one has a great feel while typing, very similar to a laptop. It is not a case, but the built in stand gives a secure feeling while in use on your lap. It does go to sleep when not being used, but reconnects quickly.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007YUX1LE/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thank you. The downside is that it doesnt fit as a case and is rather expensive. I wonder how are other keyboard cases like minisuit compared to this one? I am talking about the quality of the keyboard itself and its ability to handle fast typing.