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Hi all.
So I currently have a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. My intent has been to cancel my VZW contract and buy an unlocked Nexus device, back when rumors were that we would see multiple Nexus devices from Sony, HTC, Samsung, and LG.
When the Xperia range was announced I was extremely impressed and was holding out hopes for an Xperia Nexus.
With everything announced about the Nexus 4, I am not entirely convinced it's the device I want. I have a Nexus 7 so I'll have the benefit of the newest Android version on release, but I wanted to know if the developer support of the T or TL would be active enough to get Cyanogen Mod or AOKP updates timely? I can live without a Nexus phone if I can expect a new CM or AOKP build within a month or two, but not if I have to rely entirely on Sony for updates.
What do you think? Should I pick up the T or TL? How is the dev support for each?
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TL will have a locked bootloader
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If you are not a Sony fan like me then definitely Nexus 4!
Id say dev community for the newest xperia phone isn't too strong look at the xperia ion or S ..
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I'll be switching phone to the Asus Padfone 2 or Galaxy Note 2.
But I am really interested in the LG Nexus 4 as it's really a cheaper than most of the high ends phone in the UK anyways (£399). Only downside is 16gb, if they released a 32gb, i'll defo get it!
Totally happy with the unbranded T though. Best phone I've owned
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Thank you all form the candid advice. I'm a bit disappointed - had my heart set on a Sony Nexus, love their hardware design, but it looks like I'll be picking up the Nexus 4. Looks rather uninspiring, but maybe it will win me over in person.
Thanks for the advice!
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Just for everyone expecting a Sony Nexus, they said at IFA that it'd be extremely (extremely) unlikely for them to release one. On the hardware side Sony's profit margin on the Xperia's is rather low and they're pushing their services and integration with other Sony products really hard (Music Unlimited, Video Unlimited, PlayMemories, PS Suite, Sony Select app store, ...).
Releasing a Sony Nexus at a sharp price would mean a pretty much complete lack of Sony's strong points: their ecosystem and their software.
For me especially Sony's software is a major selling point for their phones. Sure, it's not the latest Android version, but who the hell cares? The things Sony adds on top of a clean AOSP build are so much better than a few version jumps. You get the best music player available for Android by far (Walkman), an awesome camera UI, a skin that looks nice without getting boring (unlike AOSP Android), a totally epic Album application and I can go on. Everything Sony's done in their software builds is really nice and provides a lot of value over a clean Android in my opinion.
But it's your decision of course. If you prefer AOSP over Sony's Android then by all means go for a Nexus, you'll love it!
In reality you can not make your final decision till you see the actual Nexus phones in Google' upcoming event which was cancelled? If I recall correctly, we were suppose to have few nexus phones this year? Or, Google said that Vanilla android in more devices?
Anyways, only reason I choose all Nexus family on Sony or other devices is their update time and more development but I have never been impressed by their design and I hope that Sony picks on a Nexus phone with Vanilla android and Google supports it. You call it anything you like.
papped said:
Totally happy with the unbranded T though. Best phone I've owned
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Completely agree, and this is my first Sony. Primarily held HTC devices in the past.
Also, the Nexus 4 is basically the LG phone, which would scare the hell out of me right away. I had an LG G2x, and had is not a strong enough word to describe how quickly I dropped it. My daughter uses it now, and I feel sorry for her.
Hi all,
Believe me, I am wary of LG and have not had good hardware experience with them through any friends phones, and designs are uninspiring. I will reserve judgement until I see it in person, but I may just buy a GSM GNex and dump my VZW contract if I don't find it satisfactory.
I am turned off of anything on Verizon due to their lengthy update delays and horrible battery life from CDMA. I feel that their delays are deliberate and made in their own interest - which they are well within their rights to do, but I can also take my money elsewhere. The VZW logo on the GNote just reinforces it.
I love AOSP Android, and CyanogenMod/AOKP customization, and run it on my N7, GNex, and GS2 on ATT.
But -I love Sony's hardware design, specs, and build quality - and I could live without having AOSP from Google the moment it was released, as long as it has decent dev support and CM10/AOKP devs working on it with prompt release. This is really the only thing holding me back from jumping on the Sony wagon, I just feel they have a huge missed opportunity by not wanting to release a Nexus.
A locked bootloader is a no-go for me - especially as I intend to buy it SIM unlocked.
I wouldn't mind Sony pushing their Xperia stuff and ecosystem, as long as they had quick release of drivers/binaries to allow dev support. But if its not there, I can't buy it.
I suppose I have to hold out hope that the LG is not as bad as it looks or as I expect.
Fingers crossed!
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Get the Nexus 4. £280 for the 16GB. Really! That's the cheapest high-end phone i've seen to date!
I never thought I would even consider owning a LG product in my life. Google has changed it for me!!!! Damn, I will miss Sony phones until they catch up in keeping us with latest OS updates or comes with extraordinary design and build quality.
Note that the nexus 4 will not have LTE. It pretty much has everything else but LTE.
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DdcCabuslay said:
Note that the nexus 4 will not have LTE. It pretty much has everything else but LTE.
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MrPhilo said:
Get the Nexus 4. £280 for the 16GB. Really! That's the cheapest high-end phone i've seen to date!
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... it's an LG. Mention of questionable build quality out of Sony really baffles me at this point, I've had both LG and HTC, and the Sony blows them away, IMHO of course.
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... it's an LG. Mention of questionable build quality out of Sony really baffles me at this point, I've had both LG and HTC, and the Sony blows them away, IMHO of course.
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Not even the fact that it's LG, just the price they are asking versus the specs... The low price had to come from somewhere... It's not like they're selling it at a loss or anything.
On the dev support thing. CM10 support is now official. After the new milestone aokp will be asked to add it. Paranoid android is official. Any other ROMs that you are interested in?
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tilal6991 said:
On the dev support thing. CM10 support is now official. After the new milestone aokp will be asked to add it. Paranoid android is official. Any other ROMs that you are interested in?
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Thats great news.
Official cyanogenmod "mint" page is here
I'm not touching xperia tl. Was dying from it's found a while but, low dev support and locked bootloaders is a deal breaker for me.
If I'm going to be stuck with outdated android versions it may as we have quad core potential.
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Reading all the reviews today of the LG Nexus 4, and they all make it seem nice, and better than the Galaxy Nexus, but not a mind glowingly awesome and amazing new device, just a good new phone.
Not knocking LG or anything, but based on reviews, I just wish HTC got another crack again, at the Nexus-Four. Imagine the HTC J Butterfly device as the new Nexus instead, with that amazing 108op S-LCD3 screen, and nice build quality from HTC, and cool design factor. Or to keep the price down, HTC could have made a new Nexus based off the One X+ phone, just add 2GB RAM, and release the same One X+ phone, but with stock Android 4.2.
The 6 month old One X is still regarded as having the #1 screen technology, better than the iPhone5 and slightly better than the new Nexus 4. And the design of the One X is very sexy and unique, imagine HTC going all out on a new Nexus design.
Oh well, I will still most likely get the LG Nexus 4 this month, I like to support Nexus, having owned all three Nexus phones the past few years, but I am not super crazy excited about the LG Nexus 4. To me it feels like what Apple did with the iPhone4 to 4S.
To each his own opinion But I will ignore HTC for some years now, as I had SO many problems with HTC devices after the glorious HD2 (e.g. the One S, just take a look into the forum; the One X had some laggy stuff as well at the beginning), the support was SO bad and I was SO angry regarding the bad flashing options I got (because of the strict bootloader stuff).
I loved the HD2, but it is not by accident that HTC is "in the red" for some time now!
And I think that the new Nexus really is a great step forward, the distance to other devices is bigger than it was at the release of the old nexus devices in the past. The Nexus will never be the absolutely best someone can get (else the manufacturer will whack google^^)
Maybe u should buy a HTC ONE X ... !!
I hate it when people complain "before" the official release... maybe u should give it a try and then start complaining.....Maybe u will like it.
O and remember , u can't have it all.....
Bigger battery, SD card, 1080p, design ,bla bla bla
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Please just post in either the review threads themselves or the rant thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964080
Some of you guys have made 5 and 6 threads on this Nexus 4 board already and it's starting to get cluttered.
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I actually bought the N5 before getting the N4. The fact is, I'm gonna get all of the Nexus devices (all new in box) just because I can. And I plan on using most of them.
But anyway, for those that aren't as Nexus obsessed as me, why did you stay with the N4? I know one answer I'm going to hear: "because it still does what I need". (fair enough)
Just interested in what people think.
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Good response. Thanks for sharing.
Some of us are enthusiasts interested in other people's opinions and experiences.
I stayed with the N4 because I think it's more handy. It's a little smaller than the nexus 5 and since I have smaller hands I prefer the nexus 4. Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)
I stayed because I didnt find mych difference and also Im in a condition that buying a new device will probably waste my time ! And also planing to move to google silver or iphone 6
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japmeet said:
Also, the nexus 5's earpiece is weird (atleast for me)
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That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.
I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!
my reason :
- I got my N4 cheap (got $100 discount when I bought it).
- screen density is more than enough for my poor eyes. (tell you the truth I really can tell differences between 415ppi vs 318ppi).
- CPU sector, for me myself my nexus 4 is already fast enough. I mean this is a phone not a laptop/pc, I don't need huge clock speed or ram to play games.
only one two cent personal opinion.
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I know, a lot of people whom I've told about the earpiece think of it as a weird reason. I, however, just didn't like the design of the phone. But hey, that's just me. I love the moto g and x. They're both very handy phones and pretty solid performers too!
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I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
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I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
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It is a great phone, no questions there
Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?
I guess because not everyone is as independently wealthy as you. Geez, I just bought the thing only a year and a half ago. Assuming that someone keeps making OS updates for this phone on this forum to keep up with security updates, I will keep it for around the same time-frame as I refresh my main desktop computer, about 5 to 7 years. Heck, my older second desktop computer is 11 years old and runs various versions of Linux as well as XP just fine (Although I disabled XP because it was finally discontinued.) I understand it is the constantly changing hardware that forces Google to very quickly stop supporting OS upgrades on older devices (really just an excuse to sell more devices), but it is really ridiculous that my Nexus 4 will shortly become obsolete by Google's standards, unlike Microsoft who supports their operating systems for a very reasonable amount of time.
I stayed with my Nexus 4 because Nexus 5 didn't offer a significant difference in performance. I was able to compare that side by side, and the performance of my Nexus 4 was just fast as Nexus 5. So i saw no point in change.
As i'm a non gamer guy, i think Nexus 5 will perform better games than Nexus 4, but i really don't play much.
Personally speaking, changing phone every year (some people always want to stay on fashion), seems to me like throwing money away, i think it's better change of 2 in 2 years, then you'll notice more technology improvement.
Another situation, was when i saw the Nexus 5...i was totally disappointed with his design..i mean look at the Nexus 4...it has an amazing design, glass on the back, all seems to be in harmony.
In Nexus 5 it's just a phone...don't know...lack of personality, i guess....lol
Now, i'll be waiting for Nexus 6...let's see if it worth...
Most of the replies posted in the thread apply to me as well. Some additional thoughts that kept me away from the n5:
It feels better in my hands and the size was perfect. The main things I liked were the corners of the nexus 4 were more curved than the 5, and that the tapered edges of the n4 screen felt natural.
I also preferred the n4's "discrete" camera compared to the gigantic wart that's on the back of the n5.
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I stayed because I won't jump to another phone until I see significant improvement in technology as nowadays it's just spec bumps. I think the 4th is more than enough to last for another 2 years. I'll probably change next year with the coming of L and 64bit phones and only if it really matters. Oh, and I'm not rich enough to change phone every year ?
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wolfen69 said:
That's different.
Hey, I totally understand why someone would stay with the N4. To be honest, I have relatively small phone needs. My Moto G actually did everything I needed and more. (I gave it to my mom) While we're at it, I bet the Galaxy Nexus would be more than enough for most people. But some people just like having the best. Not that I need it, I just like having it.
No doubt the Nexus 4 is still a strong player in the market. It will have no problem running 5.0
I just wish there was a CandyKat rom for the N4.
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No CandyKat? It is there, right here.
My reason? Saving up my money for my masters degree studies.
I got the N4 on contract which isn't up until March next year.
Being a student I couldn't afford to buy it outright, and obviously couldn't afford to buy the N5 when it came out.
I will, however, be buying the Nexus 6 the moment it's released. I should have my student loan through by then.
Priorities, right?
I think the Nexus 4 is a gorgeous looking phone (I'm a sucker for the glitter back) and I like how the edges curve as well, it is a unique design. It's also one of the most comfortable device to grip. Lastly, the size of the screen and phone are very similar to the Moto X, which is the ideal size for me. I believe LG went with cheaper production cost with the N5. I originally sold my N4, but when Android L preview image was announced, I was dying to try it out, so I bought another N4. I'm not planning to sell it again (I hope), there is a charm about this device that I like.
I to am a nexus lover. I did buy a n5, I do use it as my daily phone for the most part. but I do occasionally use my n4 as my phone as well. actually, I use my n4 and n5 every day. my n4 I use daily as a WiFi device at work. and it is still a great device! but those that say that the n4 is on par with the n5 when it comes to speed, are just kidding themselves. sure, in the ui, its just as fast as my n5. heck, my gnex is as fast in the ui as my n5. but I'm not talking ui, as any phone(even my nexus s) can have a fast ui if you set it up right. I'm talking opening apps/process, and computing. the n5 blows my n4 away when it comes to apps opening, and the speed of actually computing. anyways, that doesn't take away from my n4, as I do love it as part of my family
I stayed because it wasn't that BIG of an upgrade from the N4 to be honest. Definitely getting the N6 whenever its announce/released.
I got the my Nexus 4 when Google put them on sale last year before the 5's release. I'm in the process of convincing the wife that I need (aka want) a Nexus 5.
What is your reason for wanting a nexus 6? My reason is I want a device that delivers the full experience. I dont want to carry around more devices than i need to. I believe the nexus 6 can be my everything device for mobile. I wanted this after using a oneplus one for a little while. I really liked the big 5.5 inch screen and started to use my iPad less and less after getting it. All i keep thinking was if this was a little bigger and the resolution was a little bigger to match, it would be perfect. Well here came the nexus 6 with a 5.96 inch 1440p screen. I have a nexus 4 and have been loving it except the battery and the camera. So far from the hands on people are saying the camera and battery are better. Also the reception should be better than the oneplus on At&t. The nexus 6 looks big i hear it feels good in your hand and it is a beast with performance. After hearing this I immediately sold my iPad and my oneplus one. I am ready to carry around one device for all my mobile needs. I have big hands so i welcome the size.
What about you?
Android L which in turn means fast updates
Premium Nexus device (internal specs, big screen, front facing speakers, build quality, etc)
I need a good smartphone (currently using a temporary budget phone)
I think it's (one of) the best phones available
I want one for the Chip,native lollypop, size and cause I love my Nexus 5 experience so much that I run GPE on my HTC ONE M8 at&t model .oh and cause I just have to have multiple devices to keep me busy
AT&T HTC ONE M8
My last 11 phones have been Samsungs. I'm looking forward to zero lag.
My Nexus 4 has been showing its age lately in the battery department. I would be lucky to get 3 Hours SOT with the crazy battery. Plus if I reboot the phone in the middle of use my battery goes from 90% to 70% which drives me crazy.
While I know the N6 will not be the end all solution to my Battery life issues, I believe its no better time to upgrade since I skipped over the N5 in favor of this. Plus I am not wholly confident that the Next Generation Nexus devices will be viable for me if they end up becoming the first generation consumer ARA hardware. Something I would preferably like to avoid a year with until they can hammer out issues and wait out until the second generation hardware releases (2016-2017 release).
If* I can get my hands on a nexus 6 then I want one because of how easy nexus devices are to root, unlock and modify. and also because the device looks beautiful and has the specs to drool over. And of course pure stock android.
I too am currently using a budget phone(Optimus F6 anyone? haha) and can't wait for an upgrade.
I'm so tired of being on the outside looking in to the N5 community. Great ROM options, first available updates, and great Devs. Plus who know when we will see another Nexus device compatible with crappy VZW.
I bought the Galaxy Note 2 at launch, then upgraded to the Note 3 at launch. I loved both devices because I go crazy for hardware specs. I've never used a Nexus device before, but on both of my Notes, I realized that I mostly use AOSP custom roms... maybe about 90% of the times (I usually switch up custom roms every month), there's maybe one of two TouchWiz roms that I liked, but all the other ones were always always AOSP (or AOKP, close enough). Now that Google has decided to join the spec race, I for one am VERY VERY happy that the Nexus 6 is so expansive. You Get What You Pay For!!
The Nexus 6 won me over the Note 4, the specs are so incredibly similar it's ridiculous!
So yeah, Nexus 6, I wantz for all the amazing custom roms that will be available on this type of device with such incredible power hosted inside! Can't wait!
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iZack187 said:
I bought the Galaxy Note 2 at launch, then upgraded to the Note 3 at launch. I loved both devices because I go crazy for hardware specs. I've never used a Nexus device before, but on both of my Notes, I realized that I mostly use AOSP custom roms... maybe about 90% of the times (I usually switch up custom roms every month), there's maybe one of two TouchWiz roms that I liked, but all the other ones were always always AOSP (or AOKP, close enough). Now that Google has decided to join the spec race, I for one am VERY VERY happy that the Nexus 6 is so expansive. You Get What You Pay For!!
The Nexus 6 won me over the Note 4, the specs are so incredibly similar it's ridiculous!
So yeah, Nexus 6, I wantz for all the amazing custom roms that will be available on this type of device with such incredible power hosted inside! Can't wait!
Tomorrow is another Play Store restocking days!! spam spam spam spam! lol
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I went iPhone s2, s3, nexus 4, oneplus, and now my 6 is preordered. I can't wait to get my hands on it. There are so many different rooms that always come out for the nexus devices. Now with the hardware the 6 has I can't wait for some amazing new roms to come out.
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If* I can get my hands on a nexus 6 then I want one because of how easy nexus devices are to root, unlock and modify. and also because the device looks beautiful and has the specs to drool over. And of course pure stock android.
I too am currently using a budget phone(Optimus F6 anyone? haha) and can't wait for an upgrade.
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Good luck this Wednesday. I got my preorder last week.
Its the motorola nexus that we all thought would never happen. like Rossi going to ducati. I lust hope the phone works better then the ducati. Oh and there is the fact that my g3 is a lag beast. I pick up my wifes g2 and remember what a phone should run like sadly .
Screen size, fast charging, front facing speakers, lollipop and the fact that I have Jump and wouldn't get my monies worth if I don't use it.
Paranoid Android, the end.
Because Nexus, that's why
Cuz I can.
My reason is simple: screen size! Otherwise, I would keep the Z3
Official support and the dev community. And my Note 2 is dying.
I want one because I can't buy one...
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Good luck this Wednesday. I got my preorder last week.
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sadly I am at work during the time they add stock(between 10 and 10:30) so i doubt i will get one tomorrow either.
After switching to the N5 from the iPhone 4, I liked the screen and eventually I realised I used it more than the tablet that I had and because of that a bigger phone would be the perfect one device for everything.
It's not the Nexus 6, it's me.
I'm very happy with my Nexus 6, but I'm starting to feel that I need some space. Perhaps I need to try seeing other handsets for a while. I must admit to eyeing the 6P lustfully, she'll accept my connector from either side which is handy when you're struggling around in the dark.
My previous handset was a foreign import, you just couldn't find a Motorola Droid 4 in the UK. She was a little slow and the display wasn't the best... but my goodness, those tactile hardware keys... she could teach modern handsets a lot about user input.
So, what handset was your pre-Nex6 relationship with? If you, like me, are also feeling that upgrade itch, what flashy silicon enhanced little beauty currently has your eye?
I love my Nexus 6 and won't go with another phone this year. I will definitely stay with the nexus line. I just tinker way too much with my devices to switch.
This said my earliest switch will be at the next generation nexus, maybe I'll wait another 2 years, let's see. Of course, plans can change if my current n6 breaks or something.
pre: all kinds of samsungs
post: definately a nexus, but not very soon. only on nexus for 2 months now
All my phones are listed in my signature down below. Before N6 i was on N5 and Nexus S before that.
I was quite happy with my N5, but managed to grab N6 quite cheap not long ago, and I love it so far. No plans to change it anytime soon...
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