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With the Nexus 4 fiasco I've been looking at other flagship AT&T devices. I was entertaining an AT&T One X+ but man its the same crap. Just looking at their forum, I don't see any cyanogenmod development and I already see a "senseless" build, and its still behind on updates. I stand by my comments on 4.2, its not necessary with a manufacturer UI such as sense 4+ or even our half baked, half gingerbread, piss poor sense 3.6. I truly think 4.2 was designed for nexus devices as it pretty much finally brings AOSP to the same level as a skinned manufacturer phone, adding better core apps, and some lockscreen customization. But its on 4.1.1...I know for a fact, 4.1.1 gets slow as your internal storage gets filled, this was a bug fixed with 4.1.2. It's already a deal breaker for me.
I considered a One X+, Optimus G, and Galaxy S3 to replace this thing but I keep coming back to the nexus 4. It's EXACTLY what I'm looking for, and it won't break the bank to get one off contract. Buying another HTC phone means more s-off crap, and warranty voiding bootloader unlocking procedures, and most likely RIL issues, and other craptastic things. Never buy another HTC phone again? Well if they make a nexus device I might. I love the build quality, and they have the nicest cameras too it seems, my vivid's camera is so nice it rivals my 8mp Fujifilm point and shoot, to the point where its become a dust collector. But I think if I got the One X+ I'd be tired of it in 6 months much like my vivid experience.
And lets get real, ICS broke this thing. It was a nice phone on gingerbread. I love the added features ICS brings, but they gave us buggy 4.03 with no intention to update past that. This thing was a quick half baked port of the Sensation, with an lte modem with the sole purpose of showing off AT&T's new LTE network. As soon as other LTE devices came out, it became lost in the crowd, and forgot about. The Vivid doesn't just ruin HTC for me, it ruins the appeal of ALL carrier phones!
It's nexus or nothing. period

And to be fair its alot nicer now with WCXs rom but I gotta flash to the newest version, Google now is killing me!
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Nexus 4 16GB - SOLD! (UK)

Just sold my Nexus 4 to CEX for £310 (bought it from Google Play for £289.99).. I got bored of it to be honest..
I have previously have had the Galaxy Nexus and currently own the Nexus S and the Nexus 7.. all the interfaces are the same (I know its deliberate and meant to be that way).. but I missed the new phone new learning curve feeling/experience despite the super speedy performance and general awesomeness of the hardware (bar the darn rattling!)!
I stumbled across the rumours of the Sony Xperia ZL yesterday.. I was instantly sold on the Galaxy S2 size and the thin bezel (and same internals as the Nexus 4).. looking forward to it being announced next week..
I guess can compromise on the delayed updates given the amazingly compact package and a physical camera button! (and I still have the Nexus 7 for my latest and greatest update cravings.. LOL)
Sold the Nexus 4 in a hurry today as I was making a £20 profit on it with CEX.. will stick to the Nexus S until the Xperia ZL comes out.. or even the HTC M7 / the Galaxy S IV
Just wanted to thank everyone and wish those still waiting good luck..
KKH

oh you will LOVE Sony's UI. it's smooth, stable and a joy to use. /sarcasm
don't forget to tell us how much time it took you before you eventually root or get back to the Nexus.

I tried to leave the nexus line once. Spent a bunch of dough on the iPhone 5 only to find out it was a big steaming ?. Luckily I was able to return it and get my money back.

I love the Nexus concept and will always do but I was getting Nexus overdose I think. It was either the Nexus 4 or Nexus 7.. I chose the Nexus 7.. I do a lot on my tablet! (besides I will keep the Nexus S as an experimentation medium.. LOL)
I have tried HTCs and Samsungs but they don’t do it for me anymore. I wouldn’t go near LG as I am yet to hear of a positive non Nexus LG handset. That leaves Sony.. I don’t judge before I try.. so I have always been curious of Sony’s interpretation of Android..
The rumoured specifications of the Xperia ZL seem to be a temptation too strong.. I want a the full HD 5” screen in a small package as possible with the internals of the Nexus 4 and SD card compatibility is a bonus for me.. the rumours seem to be on the ball for the Xperia ZL!
Mind you I may be back soon with another Nexus 4..

Sold my Xperia S last week, got sick and tired of waiting for Sony and Jellybean (End of March - 6 months after Samsung...)
Good luck with your Xperia, when we are rocking the latest KeyLimePie, you will be just getting Jellybean (as no doubt the new Xperia phones will launch with ICS "soon to be updated"....)

May as well get the Oppo Find 5 or the HTC Butterfly really , no doubt that sony will come out at £500 which is a crap load more than the £310 you just got for your N4... best of luck getting and enjoying that Sony.
Sorry the Nexus 4 was too smooth for you, could have always changed the launcher .

This discussion is more appropriate for one of the off topic threads or perhaps your blog.
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Why do you want a nexus 6?

What is your reason for wanting a nexus 6? My reason is I want a device that delivers the full experience. I dont want to carry around more devices than i need to. I believe the nexus 6 can be my everything device for mobile. I wanted this after using a oneplus one for a little while. I really liked the big 5.5 inch screen and started to use my iPad less and less after getting it. All i keep thinking was if this was a little bigger and the resolution was a little bigger to match, it would be perfect. Well here came the nexus 6 with a 5.96 inch 1440p screen. I have a nexus 4 and have been loving it except the battery and the camera. So far from the hands on people are saying the camera and battery are better. Also the reception should be better than the oneplus on At&t. The nexus 6 looks big i hear it feels good in your hand and it is a beast with performance. After hearing this I immediately sold my iPad and my oneplus one. I am ready to carry around one device for all my mobile needs. I have big hands so i welcome the size.
What about you?

Android L which in turn means fast updates
Premium Nexus device (internal specs, big screen, front facing speakers, build quality, etc)
I need a good smartphone (currently using a temporary budget phone)
I think it's (one of) the best phones available

I want one for the Chip,native lollypop, size and cause I love my Nexus 5 experience so much that I run GPE on my HTC ONE M8 at&t model .oh and cause I just have to have multiple devices to keep me busy
AT&T HTC ONE M8

My last 11 phones have been Samsungs. I'm looking forward to zero lag.

My Nexus 4 has been showing its age lately in the battery department. I would be lucky to get 3 Hours SOT with the crazy battery. Plus if I reboot the phone in the middle of use my battery goes from 90% to 70% which drives me crazy.
While I know the N6 will not be the end all solution to my Battery life issues, I believe its no better time to upgrade since I skipped over the N5 in favor of this. Plus I am not wholly confident that the Next Generation Nexus devices will be viable for me if they end up becoming the first generation consumer ARA hardware. Something I would preferably like to avoid a year with until they can hammer out issues and wait out until the second generation hardware releases (2016-2017 release).

If* I can get my hands on a nexus 6 then I want one because of how easy nexus devices are to root, unlock and modify. and also because the device looks beautiful and has the specs to drool over. And of course pure stock android.
I too am currently using a budget phone(Optimus F6 anyone? haha) and can't wait for an upgrade.

I'm so tired of being on the outside looking in to the N5 community. Great ROM options, first available updates, and great Devs. Plus who know when we will see another Nexus device compatible with crappy VZW.

I bought the Galaxy Note 2 at launch, then upgraded to the Note 3 at launch. I loved both devices because I go crazy for hardware specs. I've never used a Nexus device before, but on both of my Notes, I realized that I mostly use AOSP custom roms... maybe about 90% of the times (I usually switch up custom roms every month), there's maybe one of two TouchWiz roms that I liked, but all the other ones were always always AOSP (or AOKP, close enough). Now that Google has decided to join the spec race, I for one am VERY VERY happy that the Nexus 6 is so expansive. You Get What You Pay For!!
The Nexus 6 won me over the Note 4, the specs are so incredibly similar it's ridiculous!
So yeah, Nexus 6, I wantz for all the amazing custom roms that will be available on this type of device with such incredible power hosted inside! Can't wait!
Tomorrow is another Play Store restocking days!! spam spam spam spam! lol

iZack187 said:
I bought the Galaxy Note 2 at launch, then upgraded to the Note 3 at launch. I loved both devices because I go crazy for hardware specs. I've never used a Nexus device before, but on both of my Notes, I realized that I mostly use AOSP custom roms... maybe about 90% of the times (I usually switch up custom roms every month), there's maybe one of two TouchWiz roms that I liked, but all the other ones were always always AOSP (or AOKP, close enough). Now that Google has decided to join the spec race, I for one am VERY VERY happy that the Nexus 6 is so expansive. You Get What You Pay For!!
The Nexus 6 won me over the Note 4, the specs are so incredibly similar it's ridiculous!
So yeah, Nexus 6, I wantz for all the amazing custom roms that will be available on this type of device with such incredible power hosted inside! Can't wait!
Tomorrow is another Play Store restocking days!! spam spam spam spam! lol
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I went iPhone s2, s3, nexus 4, oneplus, and now my 6 is preordered. I can't wait to get my hands on it. There are so many different rooms that always come out for the nexus devices. Now with the hardware the 6 has I can't wait for some amazing new roms to come out.

glitchhawk said:
If* I can get my hands on a nexus 6 then I want one because of how easy nexus devices are to root, unlock and modify. and also because the device looks beautiful and has the specs to drool over. And of course pure stock android.
I too am currently using a budget phone(Optimus F6 anyone? haha) and can't wait for an upgrade.
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Good luck this Wednesday. I got my preorder last week.

Its the motorola nexus that we all thought would never happen. like Rossi going to ducati. I lust hope the phone works better then the ducati. Oh and there is the fact that my g3 is a lag beast. I pick up my wifes g2 and remember what a phone should run like sadly .

Screen size, fast charging, front facing speakers, lollipop and the fact that I have Jump and wouldn't get my monies worth if I don't use it.

Paranoid Android, the end.

Because Nexus, that's why

Cuz I can.

My reason is simple: screen size! Otherwise, I would keep the Z3

Official support and the dev community. And my Note 2 is dying.

I want one because I can't buy one...

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Good luck this Wednesday. I got my preorder last week.
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sadly I am at work during the time they add stock(between 10 and 10:30) so i doubt i will get one tomorrow either.

After switching to the N5 from the iPhone 4, I liked the screen and eventually I realised I used it more than the tablet that I had and because of that a bigger phone would be the perfect one device for everything.

[Q] Buy Nexus 6 or WAIT for One M9?

Hi all!
I have a Nexus 5, and I really like it, but it seems like it is almost time to upgrade.
A few questions for you owners and to-be owners:
Is it worth waiting for phones like the One M9, etc,. in your opinion?
Are the black levels really that noticably different on the Nexus 6 when compared to the Nexus 5?
Is it worth waiting for 64-bit and Snapdragon 810 processors?
Is it worth upgrading from the Nexus 5?
Considering Mobile World Congress is under 2 months away, I'm not sure if I should wait. The only other phone I'd likely buy is a One M9 (as the One M8 was the only non-Nexus phone last year with a sizable custom ROM / development community).
That said, HTC's One M9:
Never uses OLED/AMOLED displays
Probably won't use Quantum Dot (which is inferior to OLED)
Might or might not have a better development community than the Nexus 6
Is likely to have a better build quality than the 5
But probably won't have a large display or wireless charging
Might have a Snapdragon 810 octa-core / 64 bit
So - I'm not sure if it's worth waiting the ~1.5 months (1.5 months that I could be using the Nexus 6) to see what might or might not be better than the Nexus 6 based off of speculation for what the One M9 might be like.

Up to you mostly, but apparently, the One M9 will have a Snapdragon 810 (octa core)

Yeah.
I noticed that, but it likely won't have as nice of a screen as the Nexus 6 , which is already plenty fast :-/
But it will probably have nicer build quality and better speakers.
And who knows what it's development community will be like?
Decisions, decisions.

Wait. Either android or the nexus 6 is buggy. Performance isn't great. By the time the m9 is released either android will be fixed or the nexus 6 well be abandoned.

The m8 was a beautiful device. Sense is also very close to stock android and pretty damn snappy. I was on the same boat when my upgrade came in December. I honestly just didn't want to wait u until March for unveiling then maybe april/may for purchase. Newer, better phones will always be released so you would have been asking yourself the same question when the m9 came out (should I wait another 5-6 months for the new nexus).
The m9 will most likely be gorgeous, if they base it on the m8. I've just gotten used to larger displays. A sub 5.5 inch display just isn't cutting it for me. The biggest pro is the 810 chip and whatever power saving abilities it will have. Performance wise, it might clock higher but even the n5 can handle everything you throw at it (app wise).

Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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It is a tough decision. If the nexus 6 had micro SD slot I'd drop the note4. But alas, it does not, but the note4 has many advantages over the nexus6. And of disadvantages. I wish Samsung would drop the physical buttons in favor of software navigation already. I hate touchwiz but it is tameable and the note4 is just about perfect minus the home and physical buttons. I longingly look at the nexus 6 and wait for the next manufacturer to mish mash the best of both the note4 an nexus 6. If the m9 or hima has a 5.5" screen like rumors say I would probably go for that. The m8 and sense were much more tolerable than touchwiz. I am gonna keep my m8 and it's status as my everything goto media player unless the hima blows it out of the water.

BenDroid1 said:
Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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Thanks for the replies so far.
The thing is, the One M8 does have an admirably large development community - the Android Development subforum has ~80,000 replies! Almost matching the growth of the Nexus 5 development community over time. Since I use custom ROMs anyways, having a pure Google experience shouldn't be a problem with such a huge community (that, again, will likely have many custom ROMs based off of pure Android). I believe the developer versions HTC sells come with the bootloader unlocked, so security shouldn't be an issue.
That said, you do make good points!

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It is a tough decision. If the nexus 6 had micro SD slot I'd drop the note4. But alas, it does not, but the note4 has many advantages over the nexus6. And of disadvantages. I wish Samsung would drop the physical buttons in favor of software navigation already. I hate touchwiz but it is tameable and the note4 is just about perfect minus the home and physical buttons. I longingly look at the nexus 6 and wait for the next manufacturer to mish mash the best of both the note4 an nexus 6. If the m9 or hima has a 5.5" screen like rumors say I would probably go for that. The m8 and sense were much more tolerable than touchwiz. I am gonna keep my m8 and it's status as my everything goto media player unless the hima blows it out of the water.
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Thanks for the input.
How are you liking your M8? How is your battery life? How do you think the screen compares to the Note's AMOLED?

One thing to keep in mond about the M9 is that there very possibly won't be a Google Play Edition of it since all signs are pointing to the GPE arrangement being ended.
The M8 has good developer support but as of late we have seen HTC really crack down on development. They have blocked S-Off on most 4.4.4 models and CM has a hard time especially with audio. It looks like the M8 will be the last of the great developement period for HTC unless they pull a fast one for us.

o.o
altimax98 said:
One thing to keep in mond about the M9 is that there very possibly won't be a Google Play Edition of it since all signs are pointing to the GPE arrangement being ended.
The M8 has good developer support but as of late we have seen HTC really crack down on development. They have blocked S-Off on most 4.4.4 models and CM has a hard time especially with audio. It looks like the M8 will be the last of the great developement period for HTC unless they pull a fast one for us.
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Could you elaborate on this? What is the implication of this on using custom ROMs? Does it mean that if HTC finds a way to permanently block S-Off in future versions we won't be able to use custom non-Sense ROMs?

Agree, best advice if possible.
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Wait. Either android or the nexus 6 is buggy. Performance isn't great. By the time the m9 is released either android will be fixed or the nexus 6 well be abandoned.
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Riktar said:
The m8 was a beautiful device. Sense is also very close to stock android and pretty damn snappy. I was on the same boat when my upgrade came in December. I honestly just didn't want to wait u until March for unveiling then maybe april/may for purchase. Newer, better phones will always be released so you would have been asking yourself the same question when the m9 came out (should I wait another 5-6 months for the new nexus).
The m9 will most likely be gorgeous, if they base it on the m8. I've just gotten used to larger displays. A sub 5.5 inch display just isn't cutting it for me. The biggest pro is the 810 chip and whatever power saving abilities it will have. Performance wise, it might clock higher but even the n5 can handle everything you throw at it (app wise).
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Yes, I've always been a phablet user, older eyes need bigger displays, I started on the HTC HD2, then HTC Sensation, followed by AMaze, Followed by Samsung G4 then G5 then note 3, to LGG3 to Nexus 6 and Note 4. AS you can see, I like Phablets which to me seem small in my hands. As the previous poster said, The Nexus 6 with Lollipop is incomplete and has it share of bugs and imperfection, especially in options and settings. So many things you may take for granted on other devices turn out to be features of said device and not standard usability. I am waiting for the big update later this month or next to see what is added or addressed and what is considered a feature. A lot of press as claimed not much in the way of features or settings, or usability is going to be addressed because it is the way google as chosen to go. Unreal that they think the ambient notification helps deaf people more than a blinking LED, but that is their position. I disagree with their thought process and find it hard to believe that somehow the new notification system makes it easier to tell what you have received. To me it makes little sense but I am used to the old fashion LED system and may be biased in my thinking.
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BenDroid1 said:
Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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I have yet to get a phone that was unrootable if you needed to have root for some reason. In fact, now that I have the nexus six, it's the first phone that I have not rooted yet, only because I feel the phone should do most of the things I like without rooting and at that point root it to use titanium back up.

Most ROM's solve the performance issues by disabling decryption, right?
That said if HTC will actually stunt ROMing on the One M9, I might simply just get the Nexus 6. Nothing annoys me more than having to wait months upon months because a company decided that developers shouldn't develop.

tusing said:
Most ROM's solve the performance issues by disabling decryption, right?
That said if HTC will actually stunt ROMing on the One M9, I might simply just get the Nexus 6. Nothing annoys me more than having to wait months upon months because a company decided that developers shouldn't develop.
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That was the first thing I did was disable the encryption. Ive had absolutely no issues with performance whatsoever. This is the fastest phone I've ever owned. I came for the HTC m8. I don't know what's your carrier is but I'm verizon and I know things are getting tougher and tougher to unlock as far as bootloaders and even root. Just look at the Samsung devices on Verizon they are so locked down and i may be wrong but I'd be surprised if the new HTC m9 achieves s off for Verizon. I'm at the point now where if I can't have an unlocked bootloader and an easily rootable device I'm going to go ahead and switch to an AT&T SIM on straight talk and continue to buy devices at full retail as I have been doing. . The only reason I've stuck with Verizon is because I work in a steel building in the only reason I get signal is because there is a Verizon tower on the company property in the back and I still hardly get any signal inside.

Great topic
This is same question I've been considering for a while too. I actually like HTC's skin (not nearly as much as Stock Android but still) and I'm sure it'll get plenty of development. But Stock Android is too good to resist.. and so are timely updates.
There's also the chance that future non-Nexus Android phones will be more locked down.
All in all, I want to see what the M9 brings to the table.

am a little bit of a htc fan boy as you can see in my signature i have the nexus 6 at the moment and i love it if you look around online the note about the snap 810 being serious throttled and having way bad over heating issues and the rumours that its going to be delayed just wont go away as the snap 810 is in the lg flex 2 and even our nexus 6 beats it in antutu and i was planing on getting the m9 instead but went with the nexus 6 as i dont really want to be the beta testers for qualicom and pay £550 for the privilege lol

If me I will wait for m9 or z4

It truly depends on what you want from a software perspective. No non-nexus devices development community ever compares in size to a Nexus Development community. OEM devices are notoriously difficult to get AOSP working well on, so if you want AOSP, Nexus devices are best for that.

Indecisive

So, I apologize if this is in the wrong section but I currently have an HTC One and I am going through my annual need(want) to upgrade to a new phone.
Its been a hard choice but I impulsively decided on the Nexus 6 and its currently in the mail.
I'm actually now having seconds thoughts since I do love my HTC One M8 more then I ever have a phone, and don't know if its worth it to get the upgrade to a Nexus 6 when I can wait for summer to hit and more new phones get released.
Are their any converts from the HTC One m8 here, and can anyone tell me which phone they think is better?

I have an M7, and an N5, had an M8.
I really liked the M8 but jumped on the Nexus as I do every year when its released.
The M8 has great feel and great software, however the larger screen of the N6 won me over. I think you may also enjoy the relative freedom that owning a nexus gives concerning ROMs and custom features. As well nothing beats updating when a new version comes out.
It will take some getting used to. Don't be quick to write it off as just a bigger screen. The Nexus 6 has much more to offer. You just may have an initial "getting used to" period.
I hung onto the M8 for a couple of months, just in case. I pulled it out one afternoon and it felt so small, and the screen was so difficult to use. A great phone for sure, the N6 is just as great, just different.
Try it, you'll like it.

Never had an HTC but that M9 though
I am half tempted to sell my Nexus 6
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.Ryker said:
So, I apologize if this is in the wrong section but I currently have an HTC One and I am going through my annual need(want) to upgrade to a new phone.
Its been a hard choice but I impulsively decided on the Nexus 6 and its currently in the mail.
I'm actually now having seconds thoughts since I do love my HTC One M8 more then I ever have a phone, and don't know if its worth it to get the upgrade to a Nexus 6 when I can wait for summer to hit and more new phones get released.
Are their any converts from the HTC One m8 here, and can anyone tell me which phone they think is better?
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I just switched from the M8. So far I'm glad I did. I love the screen size. The speakers sound just as good as the M8, in my opinion. For me it was between the S6, M9 and N6...not near enough patience to wait on the G4. I haven't used Touchwiz a ton but Samsung is super locked down on Verizon. I liked the move to 20MP on the M9 but all I've read is that its performance is mediocre. I'll still check out the M9 and S6 as pre-orders (at least for the s6) will start within my 14 day return period...I'm confident I'll stick to the N6 though!