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Webtop Adapter

Does anyone know of any way you can use the webtop adapter on a laptop? I plug it in via HDMI and nothing happens. can you only use this on a tv/monitor?

Jtblkice said:
can you only use this on a tv/monitor?
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Yep.
Your laptop only has an HDMI out.

webtop adapter
what exacly is the webtop adapeter

how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not

jpen said:
how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not
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at the vzw store the adapter has 2 more usb ports on it and the rep was saying you could use those ports to put the wireless adapters in to make a keyboard and mouse work. not sure if it works i just overheard the convo between him and a customer.

Jtblkice said:
Does anyone know of any way you can use the webtop adapter on a laptop? I plug it in via HDMI and nothing happens. can you only use this on a tv/monitor?
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I think a better question is this:
Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?

Banggugyangu said:
I think a better question is this:
Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?
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He didn't. He plugged his phone's hdmi cable into his laptop's hdmi port. It's the same port on either end.
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how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not
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If you plug it into the tv without the hack to enable webtop, without the webtop adapter, you get a "remote" screen on phone, which runs the media player. If the webtop adapter does what I think it will do, it will make the phone's screen work like the touchpad on your laptop, and give you a button to bring up the keyboard, which is what the Atrix does with the webtop hack. You can also tether a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the phone.

barry99705 said:
He didn't. He plugged his phone's hdmi cable into his laptop's hdmi port. It's the same port on either end.
If you plug it into the tv without the hack to enable webtop, without the webtop adapter, you get a "remote" screen on phone, which runs the media player. If the webtop adapter does what I think it will do, it will make the phone's screen work like the touchpad on your laptop, and give you a button to bring up the keyboard, which is what the Atrix does with the webtop hack. You can also tether a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the phone.
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Thats what I was hoping to hear....I want to buy the adapter but I'm afraid someone will come out with the hack as soon as i do.

Banggugyangu said:
I think a better question is this:
Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?
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I have a Lenovo with an HDMI port.
Any finding anything interesting about the adapter. VZW rep gave me one at a discount for a problem with my bill.

With the ammount of money ans headaches you would spend to do be able to do that, you're probably better off just trying to find the docking station for the bionic and selling your laptop.

FYI, the Droid BIONIC Support Bluetooth Keyboard & Mouse.
I Use the same on I use for my Tablet.
but here's a keyboard made by moto. A co-worker has it, and he loves it he says
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...ess-Accessories/Atrix-Wireless-Keyboard-US-EN

Pretty sure there is software out there than does it... But its only the size of the phone screen... Look in google code

Has anyone cracked open a Webtop adapter yet to actually see what is inside?
Considering there is that cardock hack which was pretty much just drilling a hole and adding a micro-HDMI cable, the only thing triggering Webtop vs. mirroring mode might be a magnet.

I would love to find that out to be true. A four dollar cable from ebay is a lot better than the 30$? they charge for the adapter....

[Q] And USB adapters for the DS7 yet? So we can hook up controllers etc.

Just wondering, since some of the newer tablets let you hook up mini usb devices to it and so. Was wondering if there had been any adapters yet or so for us streak 7 users? Would be cool to get a wired controller hooked up and so.

You would need an OTG cable to do that, as dell doesnt make any you will have to make your own or use the HDMI dock.

Well I have the HDMI Dock, so I could use the dock then insert the usb device to that? Was thinking about getting that Logitech F710 with that usb dongle, heard it had support for android. What else would I need? Or hows that work fully.
As for the non dock part, has anyone made a cable yet to work?

if your device had a usb-a connector you have no choice then but to make a cable.
the sixaxis/ds3 uses a mini usb connector and might work though usb,
I know it and the wiimote will work over bt, with the wiimote being the easier to pair one.

Well I have the wiimote working fine, Issue there is.. Yea.. Battery drain on that remote. So figured maybe getting a adapter. I guess I need a USB to Mini micro usb? (The new style mini usb thing.. man I miss the old big RAZR size ones) How many of you have used a HID device or so on android or the streak 7?

you'd need to splice together the dock connector to preferably a USB-A female port, it'd be the most useful as you'd have a cable that could accept anything, but it'd mean you'd always need a minimum of 2 cables.
You'd also have to dissemble to dock connector itself i believe as the OTG pins are different from what's wired in the normal sync/charge cables, you cant simply cut the cable and rewire it, you'd prob have to cut the dock connector open and resolder
If you made a dock to micro usb connector it'd only accept devices that have a micro usb port on it.
Keep in mind usb mode means that the controller would be drawing power from the device itself, while controllers dont draw that much, it's still something to point out

Wouldnt this be all I need?
http://www.amazon.com/USB-Female-Mini-Male-Adapter/dp/B0016RNX2I/ref=pd_sbs_e_4
Would take the normal size usb dongle or cord, fits into the USB slot of the dock itself.

I havnt actually tried it but it sounds like that should work, i know that port is designed for otg connections so i'd assume it'd take care of the hard work.

When on 2.2.2 Did I need a special program for this to work? I know 3.x had native support. Just wondering. =) (Or can any game/emulator with key remapping auto detect)

if it's anything like the hoops needed for the s5 on 2.2.x yes, unless dell included their own code stuff to make it work, then i'm not sure.
I've never attached a controller to anything, wired or not so I can only say that much

Wonder what the app would be called or so, anyone know? I mean I ordered the part, should be here in a few days, then I can report any tests I have with a Rumblepad 2.

Ok tested it out, So far nada. Dont know if its even supposed to work.
Has anyone here hooked a wired controller up to their android? Running Honeycomb now too.
I know people talk about the F710, which I wonder if that works cause its battery powered?

So what's the verdict guys? Can a controller or other USB device be connected to the mini USB port on the docking station and work? If not, will it work if you plug in a mini USB OTG cable (like this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-USB-Re...757?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6edf5335) into the docking station and then plug the controller into the OTG cable?

So far my verdict is nada.. dont think its supplying power to the usb ports. Now its been said that adapter based ones may work, something where controller is powered by batteries. Tho again. No one ever gives a real confirm.
My next area to branch out is http://www.onlive.com/controller 50$ but you can use a adapter for the pc. However it also works with bluetooth, something that the tablet DOES support and no adapter needed. Since I have the onlive app, least it will work 100% for THAT. Once my tax money comes in, Ill order the controller and see if it can work on emulators and so too. least then we will have 1 solid answer that has some good use. (Since honestly, onlive on the tablet really isnt bad at all!)

Why not bluetooth your ps3 controller though the sixaxis app on the market thats what I've done works great
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I have used my Wii remote that way
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To answer both. If I am not mistaken. PS3 controllers have to be "paired". Which means when you wanna play PS3 or Tablet.. got to re-pair them all the time, correct?
Wii-Motes I know you dont have to re-pair them. However.. one thing I hate... that to use the classic controller.. you need to have the Wiimote laying around somewhere.. then the cable for classic. Seems bulky for normal use.
Both controllers all are battery too. Would be nice for wired solutions. If I do anything wireless, I may as well get that Onlive controller with BT support.

If you have a sixaxis/DS3 dedicated to non-ps3 use: you only have to re-pair it every time you want to use it on a different device.
The sixaxis/ds3 do work in usb mode, at least on pcs. I dont recall if there's a solution to use it in usb mode on android (though i'd imagine it should, as usb mode is trivial to enable)
If you only have a single device to use it with, you only ever need to pair it once and then you're done.

Well, I finally went and tried hooking up a usb hub to my S7, and my results were absolute failures.
I bought an OTG <-> dell 30 pin a while back and a standard OTG <-> dock cable.
I dont have a baseline as I dont know offhand which kernels are specifically tested to work.
It seems to enable the hub (by enable I mean it powers up on detection of a host, it's wall powered)
on my S5 with ICS/Phoenix kernal (which is known to support usb hosting), but nada on my S7 with ICS B4/mod and stock 514.
Can anyone explicitly confirm that the b4 and stock kernals work with host?
I'm pretty sure nothing is happening on either of those, and as it works fine on my S7 it's definitely not bad cables/hardware.
Edit: at least the S5 is even capable of powering the hub itself, and with a dock it can charge at the same time. If it wernt for the terrible HDMI out on it, it would be a full on android pc with the dock.
The S7 on the other hand: I still cant get anything, remotely powered or self powered: it gives no response

I can tell you, yes, ICS kernel does have otg drivers but may not provide power to those devices.
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Usb Mouse On Bionic

I have a rooted Bionic running kinetix rom (latest) and I am trying to use the Motorola Usb otg Cable (89454N) to use a standard usb mouse. However, when I plug in the mouse nothing happens and the optical light does not turn on on the bottom of the mouse. That mouse is tested and working on a computer and I have also tried using a wireless rf mouse. I did quite a bit of research on the net about this and someone was saying that the Bionic micro usb port does not output enough power to support it so they used a powered usb hub and that worked for them. Now, I did the same and hooked up my powered usb hub and plugged in power and hooked it to my phone and Bionic and now the light turns on but still does not work on the phone. (no mouse icon pops up and no response). This is the case for phone by itself, mirror mode on the tv, and webtop via hdmi hack. Any advice or help on this would be much appreciated. Or has anyone successfully used a mouse on their bionic? if so what setup (rom, mouse, cable etc) ?

I use a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse, works great. No need for any cables or extraneous hardware.
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I'd like to avoid buying new equipment. I've seen a lot of people with bt mice working. Thanks though.

SaddleTramp said:
I use a Microsoft Bluetooth mouse, works great. No need for any cables or extraneous hardware.
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I got the bluetooth mouse and keyboard from Motorola's website for $30. One of the best deals that I have ever come across. The keyboard alone is normally twice the price.
I have gotten regular usb wireless mice to work on my Galaxy Tab to work just fine with it's dongle. Are you sure that your dongle is working correctly?

Are you docking your Bionic?
On the back of the HD dock there are 3 USB ports and that would have enough power to power the mouse. I would run the Webtop hack and get an HD dock if I were you. I've done it and it works great!

Sorry to revive an oldie, but I have an answer. The Bionic's USB host mode requires extra power(i.e. needs to be charging) in order to work. As of this moment, other than the HD dock or lapdock, there are only a few hit-or-miss options. (Edit)There's a thread in the RAZR forums that could hold the solution.
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SGN2 Smart Dock for 4X?

Can smart dock of SGN2 work on our phone? it work on S3, may be someone try if possible
If not working then may be anyone can help with similar alternative, I require HDMI + USB Port for devices thats all I want.
I am talking about something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Smart-Docking/dp/B009QW3TBK/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Thanks!

shazmekool said:
Can smart dock of SGN2 work on our phone? it work on S3, may be someone try if possible
If not working then may be anyone can help with similar alternative, I require HDMI + USB Port for devices thats all I want.
I am talking about something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Smart-Docking/dp/B009QW3TBK/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
Thanks!
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The S3 (and probably also the SGN2) use an alternative micro-USB connection with extra pins that allows to use USB OTG and HML simultaneously. The 4x HD doesn't have that, so the dock could never work on our phone. There do exist docks with only a normal microUSB connection that you could use for HML (HDMI).

Wenque said:
The S3 (and probably also the SGN2) use an alternative micro-USB connection with extra pins that allows to use USB OTG and HML simultaneously. The 4x HD doesn't have that, so the dock could never work on our phone. There do exist docks with only a normal microUSB connection that you could use for HML (HDMI).
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Thats really sad, I was hoping to be able to use my wired PS3 controller along with MHL TV connection simultaneously. I assume our phone uses similar pins setup as HTC OneX hope atleast HTC finds a way to do it

u can use a ps3 controller with Sixaxis controller using bluetooth, works great

Note 9. Dex

Has anyone used their Note 9 and the new dex? I can see why people would use it but does anyone really use it as a daily driver?

I'm using DeX as a main driver for productivity, but I'm not using Samsung's DeX station...

Also using Dex daily. At work using a 1st gen dock, at home a 3rd party usb hub.
It's great to replace my laptop. My only grief is not being able to open multiple instances of excel
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StardustGeass said:
I'm using DeX as a main driver for productivity, but I'm not using Samsung's DeX station...
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Are you using the new dongle?

Elite3k9 said:
Are you using the new dongle?
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Nope, I'm using a 3rd party one

Me too, Just the USB-C to HDMI adaptor but I got it for Around $10Aud...
I have the Dex pad and Station too but this is so much more mobile, no additional power needed... Just a Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard...
Not sure how fast it will eat up the battery though....

So I want to connect my Razer mouse and keyboard currently connected to my main PC and monitor to my Note 9 when Dex'd via cable. I know i'll need a hub of some sort, so wanted some expertise on which hub to get, but also wanting to know the best way to set this up minimally.

Also looking at different Dex options for my note 9. already have a usb-C - HDMI adaptor that aslo has a usb-pass through power - (to charge the phone) - but no keyboard\mouse options as yet.
Without hijacking your thread, For me there are two requirements
1) Portable setup, simple hdmi dongle and small portalbe tablet bluetooth keyboard\mouse~ glide pad in built.
2) Permenant setup - like the new Dex Pad (or 3rd party - as Dex Pad doesnt have USB 3).
Sounds like your chasing more of #2 - but what I am wondering is do you want you razor keyboard and mouse to both permanently and always function connected to your PC - and have some kind of double adaptor\hub setup - that if you "do" plug in your Dex Phone - then without moving\unlplugging you K&B - they still work both on the PC and Dex at the same time? Is that right? Share 1 x K&M across both Dex and PC at the same time?
OR
When you plug in the dex - it "switches" all input fully over to dex [only]? cause I am not sure how if you type on the Keyboard its not going to send to both PC and DEX apps if its just on some kind of shared hub etc.

OzDruiD said:
2) Permenant setup - like the new Dex Pad (or 3rd party - as Dex Pad doesnt have USB 3).
Sounds like your chasing more of #2 - but what I am wondering is do you want you razor keyboard and mouse to both permanently and always function connected to your PC - and have some kind of double adaptor\hub setup - that if you "do" plug in your Dex Phone - then without moving\unlplugging you K&B - they still work both on the PC and Dex at the same time? Is that right? Share 1 x K&M across both Dex and PC at the same time? .
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Yep, trying to get a more permanent solution where my keyboard and mouse will work across both DeX and PC at the same time.

djinn415 said:
Yep, trying to get a more permanent solution where my keyboard and mouse will work across both DeX and PC at the same time.
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Thats interesting idea, I think thou you would get input being sent to 'both' devices - so your typing into a spreadsheet on Excel via DEX, and your regular PC is also getting the same character input \ mouse movements sent to it - if it even worked via some kinda hub.

djinn415 said:
Yep, trying to get a more permanent solution where my keyboard and mouse will work across both DeX and PC at the same time.
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i think those kind of setup can be achieved with bluetooth keyboard and mouse that supports multiple device switch. for example, I'm using my logitech T630 as a mouse for both of them, and just switch if I want to use it on another device.

StardustGeass said:
Nope, I'm using a 3rd party one
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I need in

djinn415 said:
Yep, trying to get a more permanent solution where my keyboard and mouse will work across both DeX and PC at the same time.
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Logitech has at least the mouse capabilities, saw it at Jbhifi.

globalgpj said:
Logitech has at least the mouse capabilities, saw it at Jbhifi.
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Yep, I owned a wireless/bluetooth Logitech mouse and keyboard, but switched it out for some wired Razer ones for that clickyness!

djinn415 said:
Yep, trying to get a more permanent solution where my keyboard and mouse will work across both DeX and PC at the same time.
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Does not compute. I don't think that is possible. The best you can do is probably get Logitech equipment and switch out the unified receiver from computer to Dex. I will be testing to see if that works for me.

ultramag69 said:
Me too, Just the USB-C to HDMI adaptor but I got it for Around $10Aud...
I have the Dex pad and Station too but this is so much more mobile, no additional power needed... Just a Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard...
Not sure how fast it will eat up the battery though....
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Of the three options: Dex Pad, Dex Station, 3rd Party USB-C to HDMI adapter, which one outputs 4K and if you know at what refresh rate, i.e., 30HZ or 60Hz?

pypk said:
Of the three options: Dex Pad, Dex Station, 3rd Party USB-C to HDMI adapter, which one outputs 4K and if you know at what refresh rate, i.e., 30HZ or 60Hz?
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There are plenty of C-HDMI that do 4K at 60Hz, same as the official Samsung one that was just released.

pypk said:
Of the three options: Dex Pad, Dex Station, 3rd Party USB-C to HDMI adapter, which one outputs 4K and if you know at what refresh rate, i.e., 30HZ or 60Hz?
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I believe all 3 do 4k at 60hz.
The Samsung Dex pad/station do and the 3rd party adaptor is advertised as 4k 60hz and I can't see much difference between the Samsung products and the 3rd party cable... Here's the link if you want to check out the USB-C to HDMI cable - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/USB-C-t...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Cheers...

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I believe all 3 do 4k at 60hz.
The Samsung Dex pad/station do and the 3rd party adaptor is advertised as 4k 60hz and I can't see much difference between the Samsung products and the 3rd party cable... Here's the link if you want to check out the USB-C to HDMI cable - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/USB-C-t...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
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Not seeing much difference does not guarantee anything. Buying the Samsung stuff guarantees compatibility. And damn, Samsung's cable is expensive, especially straight from them. I am sure price will come down but that is high. I'm glad I got the DEX pad though. Would've been nice to keep the Ethernet port but that takes up bandwidth.
Dex is good though. Surprisingly good. I tried it yesterday and I think I mentioned this before it is like a mini windows 7 with an android overlay. I thought for sure there would be noticeable latency but NOPE! it's good. I have a really nice laptop. The DEX pad is auxiliary and light weight. I have a Logitech unifying receiver with accompanying keyboard and mouse. Put a thumb drive on the second USB port and get a nice high quality lifestyle looking extension cord and you have a very gratifying portable desktop experience. I for sure will be using Dex to back up my phone to thumb drive and then back up from thumb drive to laptop. I'd rather not hook my phone up to my laptop when I don't have to.
Anybody have one of those Asus monitors that is powered by USB? I think the cheaper one is about $125. I wonder how good it looks and what the minimum power requirement are for the monitor. I doubt 5v at 500ma or 900ma which are USB 2 and 3 specs are applicable to the monitor. Even so I wonder if the Anker battery packs can power it. Asus monitor, 2 or 3 Anker battery packs, DEX pad with thumb drive and keyboard and mouse and you're good to go probably 2-3h 8h workdays without plugging into a socket.

What resolution are able to get via dex? I cant use the 2560x1440 - only 1920 x 1080.
Does the Dex Pad or station get better resolution?