Has anyone seen the tegra 4?I'm kinda jealous.. And deadtrigger 2..but the tegra 3 is still an amazing processor so it's all good (; but 72 core gpu.. Anyone else sorta jealous? But happy with there current tegra 3?
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aah.. if I jealous with next gen hardware than I will jealous as long as you live since hardware will not stop to develop..
currently still happy with my nexus.. cheers..
I dont get jealous by new stuff and dont feel bad about old stuff.
If i do then ill be a stupid person
I don't feel bad about old stuff I just thing the tegra 4 looks amazing but I'm extremely happy with the tegra 3
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I only hope they don't pull this "tegra4 only features" nonsense again.
Which then turned out to be just switch in an XML file.
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Not jealous at all. In a keynote speech nVidia's CEO said this would happen and that tablets using the latest Tegra chips would get cheaper and cheaper.
At least they didn't pull an Apple on us by releasing a flagship unit and then within 6 months a new flagship unit (iPad 3 to iPad 4 deal).
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I only hope they don't pull this "tegra4 only features" nonsense again.
Which then turned out to be just switch in an XML file.
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Oh yeah... This would be stupid.
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I don't feel bad about old stuff I just thing the tegra 4 looks amazing but I'm extremely happy with the tegra 3
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[email protected]"old stuff"
I think it's hilarious that people spend thousands of dollars on parts for new gaming computers to play World of Warcraft "better" when it runs just fine on 5 year old tech. Or how the powers that be keep adding new dimensions to textures and special effects but they forget to add new dimensions to the games themselves. Kind of the same deal.
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Has anyone seen the tegra 4?I'm kinda jealous.. And deadtrigger 2..but the tegra 3 is still an amazing processor so it's all good (; but 72 core gpu.. Anyone else sorta jealous? But happy with there current tegra 3?
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Ya but nvidia has different standards of what 1 core is. Basically more doesn't necessarily mean its better. Its just good marketing
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If we are satisfied with our tegra3 devices, we shouldn't care that much about the next tegra. This one is good enough to play any games we want, without any lag. We can go further and overclock the cpu for even more performance. The technology is advancing every day, but I think there's nothing to worry about, especially when we have such powerful devices.
*crosses fingers that next Nexus 7 type of device will have Tegra 4 and 1080P*
It would take both of those for me to want to upgrade from my current Nexus 7.
The software/programmable modem and the HDD features are actually nice new features, which could help make some good devices.
The problem is going to be how many manufacturers still want to use Tegra over the new chips from Qualcomm and even Intel. But that's all good for the consumer though, as it keeps everyone on their toes.
I liked the look of the Shield last night at their press conference and can't wait for my briefing with Nvidia tomorrow to hopefully get a hands on.
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I am disappointed with early Gpu bench of t4, apple still at the top
IMO even if we get a new Nexus tablet with Tegra 4 onboard - there's not much sense in rushing towards the newer tech - N7 today is one of the fastest and most powerful tablets on the market and it's available for more than reasonable price
So don't rush - just wait until Nexus y2014
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I think it's hilarious that people spend thousands of dollars on parts for new gaming computers to play World of Warcraft "better" when it runs just fine on 5 year old tech. Or how the powers that be keep adding new dimensions to textures and special effects but they forget to add new dimensions to the games themselves. Kind of the same deal.
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I find it hilarious when some one that isn't a PC gamer, good folk retard when taking about how PC games upgrade
Over a grand for a rig to play WoW no no no
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Yea you can build a $500 PC that will run games mostly maxed.
Anyway on Tegra4... nah. The Tegra is kind of a double edged sword. It is nice when games are built for it and optimized but it sucks when they aren't.
Most other GPUs just work with what they got... and work good. Plus NVidia has always been complicated to work with in Linux because of their closed sourced drivers. So when there are problems like how our screen washes out after movies and the likes, we devs can't fix them but only find workarounds.
This also means the community can't optimize the drivers ourselves. We are reliant on Nvidia to spoon feed us fixes and support. The same oppression we love to loathe.
The transition from 3 to 4 doesn't even really strike me as a must have.
Kinda sucks for the Onya gaming box though... it is going to be Tegra3. That would have been a good thing to simultaneously release together. And I can't remember anything that was Tegra3 only outside of timed releases.
Concluding that my N7 is great and does what I want when I want. I'm keeping this for the long haul. I'm still happy with it. I'm not sure what could even sway me into a new device.
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I dont get jealous by new stuff and dont feel bad about old stuff.
If i do then ill be a stupid person
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This guy posts and then uses a 2nd profile to thank all of his first profiles posts. Pathetic. Dude if you were gonna do that you should have picked a not-so-obvious name for your 2nd profile
Why is this even posted in the Nexus 7 forum. Not even related to the Nexus 7.
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At least they didn't pull an Apple on us by releasing a flagship unit and then within 6 months a new flagship unit (iPad 3 to iPad 4 deal).
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Apple treats every mobile product as a flagship. This is part of their business model; their newest product is always the best, and better than anything else they have to offer. This is how they continue to jack up the price and convince people to keep paying for it. "Well, I paid $700 for the last iThing, and they say this one is better. It must surely be worth the $800 they're charging."
On topic, I think nVidia is playing some numbers game with this 72-core gpu. The same way HDD makers sell a 1TB drive that really has 850GiB of space. The same reason your internet company measures their speed in Mbits instead of Mbytes, while it is impossible for them to transfer a single bit. They use some linguistical magic so they can use bigger numbers to describe the product.
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Apple treats every mobile product as a flagship. This is part of their business model; their newest product is always the best, and better than anything else they have to offer. This is how they continue to jack up the price and convince people to keep paying for it. "Well, I paid $700 for the last iThing, and they say this one is better. It must surely be worth the $800 they're charging."
On topic, I think nVidia is playing some numbers game with this 72-core gpu. The same way HDD makers sell a 1TB drive that really has 850GiB of space. The same reason your internet company measures their speed in Mbits instead of Mbytes, while it is impossible for them to transfer a single bit. They use some linguistical magic so they can use bigger numbers to describe the product.
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I have to agree, its a numbers game. Anyone remember when amd spanked intel at lower clock speeds?
Not to mention "core fatigue" how many threads can one program run before the complexity makes it unmanageable? Before race conditions become a nightmare? I hit race conditions while compiling with 4 cores 5 jobs with gcc, not very often but it happens and simply trying again without any changes works..
With apple you get a one size fits all, "designer" device. You're buying "apple" brand. Yeah apple can make some good quality products and can even make some revolutionary ideas, but so does Louis Vuitton.
Is it worth the extra 600$ to stamp an apple on it?
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Hi Everyone,
I plan on purchasing a 7 inch tablet for email, calendar, browsing, some light word and excel updating, and occasionally Netflix. While nice to have, I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the apps I will use? Tablets such as the Samsung 2 7 that have a built in SD Card look nice and don't seem like they are suffering the same quality control issues the Nexus 7 is suffering. I had a really bad experience with the Transformer Prime and don't want to go down that path again.
Thoughts/Suggestions?
What nexus7 quality control issues?
Get some perspective......
One of the main advantages of the Tegra3 is the superior power management using the 5th CPU core
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What issues did you have with the transformer prime?
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>I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the [productivity] apps I will use?
Dual-vs-quad is mostly a marketing thing, like the old megahertz wars. For most operations, the Teg3 uses only one core (5th core, see video below) to conserve power. 3D gaming uses all 4 cores, which results in short battery life.
Most tablet use is not CPU-gated, except for hardcore gaming. Video playback nowaday has dedicated circuitry. In other words, if you don't do hardcore gaming, ignore SoC.
I think foremost criterion is screen size. A 7" is more portable, but for productivity (text-heavy) use, a 10" is more suited for its larger display. Would suggest a 10" for single-location use (ie in-home or at-work) and a 7" for mobile use. Best bet is to have one of each.
People tend to ask "what to buy," but a more useful question may be "when to buy." Now is not the best time to buy, as companies are just starting to roll out their wares for the fall shopping season.
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>I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the [productivity] apps I will use?
Dual-vs-quad is mostly a marketing thing, like the old megahertz wars. For most operations, the Teg3 uses only one core (5th core, see video below) to conserve power. 3D gaming uses all 4 cores, which results in short battery life.
Most tablet use is not CPU-gated, except for hardcore gaming. Video playback nowaday has dedicated circuitry. In other words, if you don't do hardcore gaming, ignore SoC.
I think foremost criterion is screen size. A 7" is more portable, but for productivity (text-heavy) use, a 10" is more suited for its larger display. Would suggest a 10" for single-location use (ie in-home or at-work) and a 7" for mobile use. Best bet is to have one of each.
People tend to ask "what to buy," but a more useful question may be "when to buy." Now is not the best time to buy, as companies are just starting to roll out their wares for the fall shopping season.
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I have used both the galaxy tab 2 and the nexus. The nexus is definitely faster and smoother. My nexus had the screen lift thing. Its getting RMAed. We'll see if the new one is better. From the tab 2s I have played with I haven't seen any defects really.
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They recently did a poll, and only a small portion of the people had issues. The people that didn't (myself included) just didn't have a reason to say anything.
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Mine is perfect, no issues what so ever and couldn't be happier with it. Seems people share complaints more than praise. This is my first tablet and have nothing to compare to but I haven't put it down very much since I received it Friday my phone finally gets a little break. I'm not big into games but I have a nephew that now loves my tablet because of the games. Guess it will be good entertainment when kids come over. Good luck, don't think you would be disappointed with this one.
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Go and buy one... if you get one that's defected you can always return it! Mine is perfect by the way.
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What problem did you have with the Eee Pad prime?
[/COLOR]I like the nexus 7. Defects always happen with the launch of a new product. My tablet has defects. The nexus 7 is a great deal and their are some other new tabs due out soon that's as cost effective as this tab. nexus 7 will have better support and faster updates. You need to research and figure out what it is you need. The only dual core tab that will out perform the tegra 3 is probably the samsung enyos 2 ghz tab that doesnt exist in real world yet.
BostonDan2 said:
Hi Everyone,
I plan on purchasing a 7 inch tablet for email, calendar, browsing, some light word and excel updating, and occasionally Netflix. While nice to have, I don't think the quad core processor provides any advantage for the apps I will use? Tablets such as the Samsung 2 7 that have a built in SD Card look nice and don't seem like they are suffering the same quality control issues the Nexus 7 is suffering. I had a really bad experience with the Transformer Prime and don't want to go down that path again.
Thoughts/Suggestions?
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I have a Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 with dual core cpu and the nexus 7 with quad core. The performance is night and day. Whether that is due to software or hardware or both, I don't know. All I can tell you is that the dual core tablet is very rarely getting used, and I like the nexus 7 so much I ordered a second one as a gift for someone else. Mine is perfect, absolutely no quality issues, though it did give me a scare once taking longer than expected to reboot. And based on the ifixit rating, and the popularity of the device, this one will be around much longer than the other tablet, simply because it will be possible for me to fix it, if it breaks after it's out of warranty.
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Jelly bean has a lot to do with smoothness. Having a Galaxy Nexus upgraded to JB, it makes a big difference.
There is big noticeable differences between this and the Transformer running ICS but I haven't upgraded it to JB to do direct tests.
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They recently did a poll, and only a small portion of the people had issues. The people that didn't (myself included) just didn't have a reason to say anything.
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The polls consistently showed 50% having issues, unless there's one I don't know about.
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The polls consistently showed 50% having issues, unless there's one I don't know about.
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Think about it, a poll in a place where people with issues would come is not going to reflect the actual numbers. It will be heavily skewed.
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Think about it, a poll in a place where people with issues would come is not going to reflect the actual numbers. It will be heavily skewed.
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The pre-arrival population was already large enough compared to the size of the polls that I find it hard to believe 50% of them would've come from nowhere, rather than having been randomly selected from said population.
I'm still interested to know where this poll with low rates was.
Thanks to all that responded. This is helpful and given me a lot to think about.
To provide the background on the Transformer Prime, I received one with really bad wifi. Throughput was painful from 1 floor away from my router and I had a little bit of screen bleed, but I was ok with the screen bleed, it was the wifi that mad it unusable. I received really bad support from Asus, that was the tipping point that made me return the product.
I ended up with an iPad and it mostly works great, but I like the 7 inch form factor and I am curious if Android will provide more functionality with google apps that I'm already using for my business.
I keep going back and forth, but now I'm leaning towards the nexus as the problems being reported are not being reported as much anymore and this seems to have a lot of development interest.
Thanks again everyone.
The TF Prime lol. That thing was a nightmare and a complete design fault failure.
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BostonDan2 said:
Thanks to all that responded. This is helpful and given me a lot to think about.
To provide the background on the Transformer Prime, I received one with really bad wifi. Throughput was painful from 1 floor away from my router and I had a little bit of screen bleed, but I was ok with the screen bleed, it was the wifi that mad it unusable. I received really bad support from Asus, that was the tipping point that made me return the product.
I ended up with an iPad and it mostly works great, but I like the 7 inch form factor and I am curious if Android will provide more functionality with google apps that I'm already using for my business.
I keep going back and forth, but now I'm leaning towards the nexus as the problems being reported are not being reported as much anymore and this seems to have a lot of development interest.
Thanks again everyone.
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If development is a big factor for you then get a Nexus and never look back. The Nexus devices will always have tbe latest and grestest softwsre cause it comes straight from google. Good luck with the other OEMs as you could wait months to years for official updates.
Google may be readying a revamped model of the middle sibling in its Nexus line of Android devices for as early as the first quarter of 2013, if the supply-chain snoops at Taiwanese tech news site DigiTimes are correct.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/20/google_nexus7_rumors_persist/
Well what do we think?
Not thinking much of anything to be honest.. good for them? I'll remain happy with my 1st gen 16Gb mobel.
A cheaper version is always welcome.
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I could see the Nexus tablet line having the following:
A cheap ($99 seems low, but okay) 7". A higher quality 7" ($200-$250?). High quality 10".
While I have little money for toys, and I like paying low prices as much as anyone, I don't necessarily want a Nexus device that's had every cost corner cut. Especially things like storage and ram, which the current Nexus 7 seems to have slow parts.
Perhaps Google is trying to entice the masses further by lowering the price of a decent device, but I hope they realize that you can't make money off being the cheapest on the market. You might sell more, but your margins are smaller and your support costs are way higher because of cut corners and the sheer amount of people owning one.
I just see a lot of people being disappointed with this new device as you know they will compare it with the first Gen n7. Sometimes cheaper isn't always better.
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I can see why they would want to offer a cheaper N7-type device, but my biggest concern is supply chain issues. The current Nexus 7 is the only device that hasn't had any severe supply issues from the play store in the past few months.... but that's probably mostly because it's already been out for 6 months.
I'm happy enough for my current N7
We have more than enough cheap low-end tablets on the market nowadays..
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They better not! I just bought this thing!
With cortex a8 and adreno 200...
They probably saved money on production by leaving off the bluetooth hardware, since it doesn't work with their software anyways.
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They probably saved money on production by leaving off the bluetooth hardware, since it doesn't work with their software anyways.
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Lol I could`nt agree more
Tapped out from my sexy nexus 7
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I think our N7 is good enough. I don't think I want to replace it ...
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That's one way to gain market share, N7 were practically sold out everywhere in town over the holidays - DH got herself an iPad2 X'mas 2011 and the iOS people are releasing #5 in March or Spring of 2013 ...
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They better not! I just bought this thing!
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One would be paying more for a used/pre-owned N7 in excellent condition than buying the newest model, cheaper & slimmer. Hmmm :highfive: :fingers-crossed:
Maybe I should return mine to Staple as there is NO restocking fee & no questions asked - and wait for the newer one, 4.1.2 is such a mess in stock form anyway, LOL.
This reminds me of Samsung. They just made a half ass 4in budget phone to sell (S3 Mini). Their intent was to provide a phone for individuals who do not need a power house. The problem is the individuals who review phones like power houses. In many reviews Samsung was ridiculed for making the phone (even though it was meeting their intent). Hopefully Google is not treated the same way.
I can see the headline now, "iPad Mini ($349) dominates against new Google Nexus 7 ($99) .... Google stands no chance".
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This reminds me of Samsung. They just made a half ass 4in budget phone to sell (S3 Mini). Their intent was to provide a phone for individuals who do not need a power house. The problem is the individuals who review phones like power houses. In many reviews Samsung was ridiculed for making the phone (even though it was meeting their intent). Hopefully Google is not treated the same way.
I can see the headline now, "iPad Mini ($349) dominates against new Google Nexus 7 ($99) .... Google stands no chance".
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You're so right, I really like these Nexus phones (4 especially) and Galaxy S3, but the screen size puts me off - it's to big. Gimme a nice 4,2 inch with a decent resolution and I'm sold, but yes, such phones get lost in reviews because they don't stand a chance competing with 6" super triple HD 3D Gorilla Retina screen, 16core CPU and more RAM than my PC has.
I already have a decent tablet (N7), all I want is a decent dual, maybe cheap quad core, ~4" Nexus phone (once I got N7 I realized what android is really supposed to look like, because CM is not stable enough for me to run on my Xperia, so I kept it stock).
Of course Nexus line is only top notch, playing in the big league of S4 and iPhone6, so yes if they released a normal 4" nexus phone, headlines would say "where's your god now Android fans, always you have been bashing iPhones 'small' screen, now you're buying one yourself".
Nexus 7 is cheap enough as it is, we don't need another 800*480 7" tablet, that you can get in the Pharmacy (seriously, I saw some cheap tPads in local pharmacy), make a cheap Nexus phone!
Any news about it?
I'm on a low budget (about $150) and was hoping to get that cheap nexus 7 if it's released
It would be certainly better than those nasty china tablets..
99$?!
Cortex a8 + 512ram?
all i got from that site information is...... "made cheaper . thinner"............mmmmm wow
Looking for a fully featured 7 tablet, that I will be using for web browsing, gaming (intense ones ) and studying.
Planning on using this device for a couple of years before replacing I am assuming 3 to 4 years?
Our family currently has the Tab 2 7.0 and I reckon it's a bit sluggish, is the Nexus 7 exceptionally smooth?
Should I get it?
It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).
In terms of processing-power it's right up there with the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy SIII, so you're not looking at problems playing games in the near future.
Also, you got an active development community for the device, so even if Google decides to not support the tablet with new versions of Android, you can still keep up to date with what the devs are pumping out.
I've been using mine almost all the time when i'm not sitting in front of my rig, and it has never let me down.
I might say it is likely to be future proof for at least 2 years. It has the hardware, and Google is known to support their nexus line for quite a while. My guess is that it will be in the front line of the upcoming key lime pie update tier.
It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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It's not really possibly to future proof a device until performance can only be increased by a change in architecture, and even then only marginally, much like in the pc category.
Software wise it's a nexus, it will rule the roost for 2-3 upgrades
Hardware wise I'll give it till the new Tegra 4, snapdragon 800 and the exynos 5 octa come out
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I know that the new chips introduced at CES 2013 are a few times more powerfull than the Tegra 3. What I ment was that future apps and games will work OK for 2 years. The average life span of a phone and table is 2 years, if it's a flagship device at the time you make the purchase. And the thing is if you fear buying a new device just because it's not future proof, you'll end up never buying anything. 200 dollars isn't a lot of money for what you're getting with this tablet.
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I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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The N7 is faster than a Tab, its processors clock at 1.3 GHz and in terms of build quality i'd say they are on equal levels.
I know there are a few stories out there about screen lift on early batches of the N7, but since I can only speak from personal experience, I can say that the build quality of mine is exceptional.
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I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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You probably shouldn't try to provide an answer when you don't know what you're talking about. The nexus 7 is a 1.2ghz quad core processor, tab 2 is 1ghz dual core, not the same. As for apps Samsung forces on users, there's always plenty of alternatives on the play store.
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It's a Nexus device so will be supported for a couple of years at least with the latest and greatest Android.
It will already be a upgrade from the Tab, as it runs Jellybean.
Nothing in the world is future-proof more than a few years (notable exception being my PS3, which is stil bang upto date despite being bought in 2006).
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I hope so. I just bought one off of Ebay and I'm waiting on delivery. I'm a little skeptical of the performance of the N7. I have a SG3 that has higher Quadrant scores, so I hope it has enough processing power to go beyond KLP.
If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.
2 years for a 250$ device seems like more than enough to say that it paid for itself. Most probably the games development will skyrocket, better specs will be required, better screens, more storage space. So, as I said, for me 2 years is a good estimate.
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If I were you, I wouldn't give a rats ass about Quadrant scores, as they usually say jack-s**t about the speed or usability of a device.
Same deal with PC-Benchmarks really, they are a marketing tool to get you to buy new hardware.
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Greed, that's is what i bought one.
I bought my wife a TF300 several months ago, it is on par with the N7's performance but the N7 cost almost half the price.
IAmNice said:
Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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It's a 1.2 quad core, 1.3 is single core mode.
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Um. What? It's a quad core 1.3ghz. The companion core is is 500Mhz.
let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.
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Its a 1.3 GHz quad core.
Just buy it. It should be future proof for at least 1 year. Its cheap anyways
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maybe not..
http://www.nu.nl/gadgets/3016117/asus-maakt-tweede-nexus-7-tablet.html
or in english: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130128PD222.html
it depends on when google wil release the next nexus 7.
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I'd prefer u get the tab 2 rather than the nexus 7. Since the tab has a better build quality, screen.
Both are 1ghz and 1gb ram, so no comparison there.
And Samsung has apps like Memo, s Suggest, etc,
But in terns of futureproofing the Nexus 7 fits well
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Wrong on so many levels. Is this why you wanted to hang out in here even though you don't have a N7?
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cnstarz said:
let me put this in perspective... technology changes at a rapid rate. since the n7's release just 6 months, there are now a few devices that outperform it in games (the galaxy note 2 is a great example). play some intense games like need for speed on the n7 and galaxy note 2 and you will see how laggy the n7 can get compared to other devices. the n7 is already becoming an outdated device, hardware-wise. games will only become more demanding, they're not gonna just hit a plateau for two years or wait until the n7 has had a good shelf life. games are already lagging on the n7. if you want something future proof for the next year or two, then good luck, that will never happen with tablets because of the growing rate of the software market. your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest when it's released. that's the only way to "futureproof" yourself.
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This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.
Miami_Son said:
This is contrary to everything I read about the tab 2 before buying my N7. Almost every reviewer complained about the Tab 2 being noticeably slower than the N7 in gaming.
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i never mention the Galaxy Tab 2 in my post.
It's a Nexus device, so it will be supported going forward for quite a while, and since it is easy to unlock, the developer community will support it for quite a while.
It probably won't be the best gaming device in 2 years, since that pushes hardware well beyond most other tasks, but if it starts to get a bit slower, you can always push the clocks. It seems most of the N7s will push the cores to 1.4 or 1.5 without any issues, and 1.6 is doable for burst before hitting thermal limits, with some chips able to run even faster. The GPU pushes quite well too.
I'd fully suggest one as a reasonably future-proof device. Plus, they'll likely still resell for $50-$100 in 2 years, which means you're paying $50-$75/yr for a Nexus device. That's pretty good.
I'm thinking about buying anexus7 . do you guys think it is still a good buy? Should I wait? I like the idea of a nexus 10 but the dual core CPU compared to a quad to me does not seem right. Suggestions?
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Quad core does not 'always' mean better than dual core. If I had a chance (the money) to buy a nexus 10, I definitely would.
In my opinion android isn't even optimized properly for quad core, its not needed.... My nexus 7 VERY rarely needs to put use to more than two cores. The two cores of the nexus 10 are powerful ones
Not saying the nexus 7 isn't still worth buying. If I didn't have a nexus 7, I'd still end up buying one its a great device and does everything I need easily, while having a smaller screen size. (Which is perfect for me)
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Another should I? LOL
Well...to add something more....
The n7 is awesome. Period. If you want more awesome....spend way more, or wait for new devices.
Honestly ....people keep asking this, and its up to you. I bought one at Christmas cause its cheap and arguably the best 7" out there.
Budget, desperation and size preferences make this an apples to oranges discussion.
Not being a Dink, but seriously ....read the many threads that exist with the same question. Might help you.
People have stated their opinions on this in lots of similar threads.
Good luck, if you get one....enjoy!
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I got my nexus about 3weeks ago. I do love it. But i got my so the samsung galaxy tab 2. It has things likw better. It is dual core vs quad. Bur i dknt feel any performance difference. It has sd card slot. 2 cameras. Both are better than the one camera on nexus.
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kj2112 said:
The n7 is awesome. Period. If you want more awesome....spend way more, or wait for new devices.
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^ this. already into march, a case could certainly be made for holding off a few months until new devices are unveiled, like the much anticipated successor to the nexus 7 (this would be my course of action if i didn't already have an n7). but if you need a tablet now, you can't really beat throwing down $200 for this beast.
I disagree on the N10. Power wise, the Dual core snapdragon is faster... but since it is pushing that insane resolution, it is about the same speed, or laggier, then the N7.
This is why I think uber high resolutions are a waste. Useless number game with no benefit. Just a waste of resources.
The N10 has some nice features like HDMI out but 7" and price is right on the N7. The N7 has a super high DPI. Don't upgrade something that doesn't need upgrading.
This is why the Transformer 300 is faster then the Prime, different res.
I'd buy the N7 again... and I did. We have 4 of them. And I just bought 30 for a job.
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For me the N7 hits my sweet spot in terms of performance, prize and size! :good:
I'm in the same boat. I know I definitely want a Nexus tablet to replace my crappy PlayBook but I think I'm going to hold off to see what is unveiled at Google I/O before making a decision. If a successor is released I will buy that instead.
I was thinking about selling my TF700+Dock for a Nexus 7, but then again the Nexus 7 Successor should be coming out later this year. May just wait for that.
Will miss the Transformer though because of the keyboard dock (extra batt life) and it propping the screen up for viewing. Just couldn't stand the laggy IO of the TF700 though. I was reading a few other threads on here about the current Nexus 7's IO being a bottleneck, but I'm sure it's nowhere as bad as the TF700s.
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For me the N7 hits my sweet spot in terms of performance, prize and size! :good:
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I agree! I love the size of this. It's basically pocketable, even with the Sharkk keyboard case I bought. I haven't touched my iPad in three weeks since I bought it.
What's with all these "Should I buy?" threads?
Look. If you want to buy it, buy it. If you don't, then don't. How are we supposed to know your needs and what you'll be using it for? Watch some videos (there are around 3 million on YouTube) for the N7 and make the choice yourself. It's just a $200 tablet, not an Aston Martin DBS.
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What's with all these "Should I buy?" threads?
Look. If you want to buy it, buy it. If you don't, then don't. How are we supposed to know your needs and what you'll be using it for? Watch some videos (there are around 3 million on YouTube) for the N7 and make the choice yourself. It's just a $200 tablet, not an Aston Martin DBS.
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What he said... I didn't like the sgtab2 cuz the screen was fuzzy and wasnt sharp and clean like the n7
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Hi, after owning the asus TF201 for over a year now, I also wanted to change to the nexus 7 3g.
I had several problems with the TF201 (laggy wifi, laggy bluetooth, no gps, bad overall performance). During the last year I started hating asus for this design flaw.
Now i noticed, that the N7 is also produced by asus. Should I really try another product of this company?
However, yesterday I wanted to set my order.
Fortunately I found some posts about a stuttering when streaming the audio by bluetooth and additional wifi usage. Some have this stuttering, some others report that their wifi-speed drops near zero.
For me that all sounds like the same strange problems I had with the TF201 (always thought the only reason for my problems was the aluminium-case of the TF201).
Now I'm really dissapointed. The benefit of the N7 3G would be the mobility and the additional connectivity.
I also know that the nexus is a really cheap device. Nevertheless the main-functions should work.
What do you think is the reason for this bluetooth audio stuttering? Software based or really a crappy hardware (I trust asus wouldn't mind).
It all depends. I don't remember reading about a lot of people having Bluetooth problems on a stock device. Those of us who have it are the ones usually on custom ROM's. For example I'm on Paranoid Android 3+ and it's known to have Bluetooth issues. There is also a fix for it but I didn't bother as I never use Bluetooth.
Bottom line is, most people don't have these problems. What you're reading here is a great majority of people who only have problems. That's why they're here, because they're looking around for help. Millions of users I'm sure are perfectly happy with their N7's.
Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.
Eh low resolution screen is kinda a deal breaker, anything lower than 720p is a pain to use.
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Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.
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That link doesn't have the most detailed info. I found; http://www.gsmarena.com/hp_slate_7-5317.php
Honestly disappointing screen kills it right there. The cam is better, but really I don't think 3.5mp means anything compared to a 1.2 both were good10 years ago.
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Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.
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I think the slate looks good and is more of an alternative or maybe a compromise between some of the very cheap tablets and the nexus 7.
For me the smaller battery would be the killer. HP quote 2AH where as the N7 has a 4.3AH battery with 3 hours more use available. A four hour flight to Lanzarote would be marginal with the Slate by the time you take time at the airport into account, it will be used to keep my 2 year old entertained.
The expandable storage isn't an issue for me as I have the 32GB version. Not interested in holding a tablet up to take picture, I have a phone and a camera for that. HDMI; had that on my Nokia N8 and used it once to try it, I have used dlna to stream to the telly though.
To me it looks like someone at HP has bought a N7, looks at the pros (cheap, light,size) and cons (fixed storage, no back camera) and used it as a starting point and tried to beat it. Good luck to them but I think it will suit a slightly different market to the N7.
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Just saw this pop up on Engadget:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/ads/slate-7/landing.html?jumpid=ex_r10104_go_slate
Decent specs, camera, microSD slot and the possibility of HDMI out. Probably too late to the game, but I might have opted for it over the Nexus 7 had it been available last August. While I like the fast Android updates, I feel like Nexus owners are sometimes used as Guinea pigs to beta test the newest bug-filled features.
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It looks good... but I think you're probably right about it being too late to the game. If HP can market/advertise this as aggressively as Google has with the N7, then it might stand a chance. Google are repostioning themselves as 'content providers' - music, books, magazines - and the 'cheap-as-chips' N7 is a loss leading gateway, somewhat similar to Amazons Kindle.
Hewlett Packard are a tech company first and foremost, and don't have a similar repository of IP content that they can push to make this 'slate' a compelling purchase. In this digital age, people buy their tech based on what they can watch, read or listen to.
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Still, having said all that... it's an intriguing device... I like the microSD card slot (something sorely lacking on the N7).
If it has an easily unlockable bootloader (I don't know what HP's track record is on that), then I might consider getting one.
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No GPS either.
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I had it with HP a long time ago. Laptops dropping dead all over the place for no apparent or discoverable reason. And then tech support being worse that shoving a cactus in my rear end. So no. HP is just. No.
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Screen aucks no GPS thick and ugly silver plus HP logo on there automatically kills it. The HP brand is no longer a symbol of cutting edge got to have technology. It is a symbol of a relic technology company that is holding on to its last strong hold which is server technology and enterprise.
I think it's a good timing. with N7 2.0 coming soon, ppl will consider this one as a cheap alternative to the N7 2.0 instead of the old N7.
rather be a Guinea pig and get more regular updates than to be stuck with something that will 99% of the time will never see the latest is update. plus don't have to worry about all the bloat that other companies seem to love to fill phones/tablets up with. Google has also shown even with older nexus devices they have been kept updated to atleast ICS where as other devices you could forget about it. I am sure when keylime pie comes out the nexus 7/10 will see it. how many tablets the same age or newer will see that?
like the genie off Aladdin said often imitated but never duplicated.
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I don't feel the HP Slate is anywhere near a competitor for the N7.
HP Slate 7 Android Tablet Review
Uhhh.. The Slate 7 is a stinker.
This is a quick unboxing and review of HP's latest attempt at an Android tablet.
I can't say a whole lot of good things about this tablet. I was sorely disappointed in the overall build quality. The screen was almost rubbery to the touch and it appeared to be warped and separated on the edges. The screen was odd and had almost a glazed look to it. The back camera is decent, but the front camera is not even adequate for video conferencing, let alone the occasional "selfie". The specs are sub par for the price, in my opinion. I wouldn't spend more than $99 US for a tablet like this. I have seen off brand, generic tablets that are build better. I suppose the one saving grace is the stock Jelly Bean 4.1.1. For what you would spend on this tablet ($170 US), you should jump on a Nexus 7 or a Kindle Fire HD.
This thing is starting to make the HP Touchpad look like a great success.
These are my opinions, of course.
not a bad tablet but hp customer support is pretty crap. That and the fact that there laptops are gone really bad lately.
I think if they priced it at $99 you'd have a real alternative for people don't wanna spend $200 for a quality tab. But its only $30 less than the nexus 7, with considerably weaker specs. Who wouldn't just cough up the extra cash?
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It beats the nexus 7 in all benshmarks exept gl
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It's better to look at the Fonepad.
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I was considering getting one of these, but then all the specs fell below what the Nexus 7 had in store for me so I went with the Nexus.
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Doesn't even compete just look at the specs.
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yousef8824 said:
It beats the nexus 7 in all benshmarks exept gl
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Look at the wild benchmark differences on exact same devices!! Depends on a lot what you score. So benchmarks are basically meaningless. Anyone can sacrifice battery and smoothness to put up a good score!
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jimbobvfr400 said:
No GPS either.
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Got one today. It appears it does have a GPS. It pinned me right down to my house in Google Maps.
I will say this, it doesn't seem laggy at alll. The problem is that some apps (Instagram, SiriusXM, Foursquare, UPS Mobile, Jetblue, and others) are marked incompatible in the Play Store. Apps like Twitter, Facebook, Angry Birds Friends, etc. work fine.
I'm not sure what the delimiting factor is, but it may have something to do with the resolution and how the apps were built.