New or old bootloader - LG Optimus 2x

I opened this thread for the dev section to stay clean (espacially the fixing the call bug section).
All discussion about using which bootloader should go here.

At the moment im on new bl, but i wont mind switching back. I noticed a few things, since im on new bootloader.
Especially battery live has increased considerably, even without much kernel side optimization on pengus 26.12 rom (correct me if there were battery optimizations done on that rom)
Additionally there is an easy way to activate swap. this is quite useful, because photospheres are working well with swap on.

Nn3zza said:
At the moment im on new bl, but i dont care switching back. I noticed a few things, since im on new bootloader.
Especially battery live has increased considerably, even without much kernel side optimization on pengus 26.12 rom (correct me if there were battery optimizations done on that rom)
Additionally there is an easy way to activate swap. this is quite useful, because photospheres are working well with swap on.
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in that rom, pengus77 implement some batery saving wifi related.....

Yes sure, so with wifi up for 30 mins a day i got an uptime of about 45 h. for me it was better than on old (around 30h with slight wifi usage). but this may not be related to bl at all.
what i am wondering is, if there are some binaries linking to the new partitions? if there are, we should notice a different behaviour between old and new bl. maybe we can find some differences

Nn3zza said:
At the moment im on new bl, but i wont mind switching back. I noticed a few things, since im on new bootloader.
Especially battery live has increased considerably, even without much kernel side optimization on pengus 26.12 rom (correct me if there were battery optimizations done on that rom)
Additionally there is an easy way to activate swap. this is quite useful, because photospheres are working well with swap on.
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There is no photoshpere for our phone, you mean panorama pictures.

massimo69 said:
There is no photoshpere for our phone, you mean panorama pictures.
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Yes you are totally right

Strange thread which starts with off topic posts. Maybe the goal here is not clear or it is useful like searching for angels sex.
Is there any impact on functions by using new or old bl? It's up to the rom developer, you may get one rom or another, your choise.
About panorama, stock LG 30A/B have it.
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wals46 said:
Strange thread which starts with off topic posts. Maybe the goal here is not clear or it is useful like searching for angels sex.
Is there any impact on functions by using new or old bl? It's up to the rom developer, you may get one rom or another, your choise.
About panorama, stock LG 30A/B have it.
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I started this thread because many threads are filled with comments why to move to new bl, get back to the old one etc.etc., so this thread is for discussing these things.
I think its quite hard to decide, which bl to go for. Many are arguing the old one is better since it is standard cm. I think its also valid to argument, that the new bootloader is the stock LG bl and its easier to switch roms if on stock LG 30A/B or have stock mod roms installed, so if cm would use the new bootloader, switching between upcoming roms (stock mods and LG) would be much simpler.
Do you know if the stock LG 30A/B is taking advantage of the swap partition?

I don't know anything about swap partition, I see that original stock LG 30B with locked bl and without root is extremely smooth and fast.
I'm using it since last Christmas and am very happy even if few minor bugs are still on.
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Bootloader Wars continue, on a new Thread.
when you could post here
most people will have used this post to speak about there love / hate of the new / old bootloaders
it even has a poll on who prefers what rom, (thus supporting what bootloader they prefer and comment on why)
no need to create a new thread, adding to the million threads of written poo on this site. I would request this thread get closed, as the question and debate of the bootloader, is being talked about on many threads already.

Although it is not entirely clear, there is a thread that covers this discussion, located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083606
Please take the discussion there
Closing thread

Related

(Suggestion) Things that a ROM Must/should/could have!

I made this thread based on what i think ROM's must or should have 4 an average use
- STABLE, with no sd unmounting or unespected reboots
- Of course, it must read the SD, also, would be good to have an file manager, light like OI file manager, even if its aosp, cause some of us stores our apps on SD as backups
- All kind of wireless networks, GSM mainly, WiFi, USB and Radio for those who listen!
-Clean Launcher to let the user set it 4 his needs
-mic, dialer, dial UI, messagin working
-BT handset / and jack working ofc
-speaker
-Good or the laster battery it can be
-DSP or louder sound
-Not too laggy UI or ROM
-OC could be added as well, but it is not really needed, unless the ROM its a bit laggy
-Working camera, cause we all need to take a picture often, even when its about our studies (I take pics to ppt )
-LG stock apps like Alarms, calendar, energy control, Google apps, voice, weather and news
-Of course it'd be cool to have youtube to watch somes How-To about anything
-Rooted, its not TRULY needed, but lets face it, we all want it, or some doesn't know how, or just cannot reach it!
All those things should be on any ROM, unless its a BETA or A release with KNOWN bugs which will be FIXED as ppl/users detects then
Suggestions:
-LG IME keyboard
-Astro File Manager (I make apps backups from Astro)
-Docs to go
-Touchpal / Swipe
-XDA forum app to follow our respective roms thread or any thread we want
-OC and Swapp utility/support
Guess thats the bassic things users are looking 4 + performance, i also know not ALL roms will have but it could work as a guide or a task list of what to do with a rom in development, also after making a rom, it'd be cool to get a test period with some users, or all of them to fix possibles bugs and then make it clean!
Feel free to post any other thing u think its needed or any suggestion
Dont see point of this topic... dont rom like, dont use it.
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Taking that as main duty, just sug
You sound as though you know how to build a rom without all this probs trust me its alot harder
I do not know actually, just attached them as task to be done or something, if a rom complishes most of the features, and gets real stable, it could be as an Official one! Repeat, its just a suggestion...
Yes I know
Really, this topic makes no sense. You're indirectly saying that you want a fully working ROM. If any ROM has a missing File Manager, tell that respective developer. And Developers know what should be working in their ROMs and even they want their ROMs to be bugless!
If you want any added apps, you can add them yourself. Instead it's better that the ROM is as clean as possible
No sd unmounting or unexpected reboot? i get that with LG's stock kernel.
Developers here aren't LG software engineers, we don't pay them to develop roms etc... We don't have the rights to expect everything working perfectly anyways. LG makes mistakes as well.
LG stock apps require porting because those apps does not work standalone without LG's framework.
Yeah, the camera takes crappier shots than the 'lowest end' 1mega pixel cybershot my parents gave me which was bought in 2001. But I'd agree that some users without image quality expectations would want a working camera
Root is needed by most users for integrating apps into system file, debugging and modify rom itself on phone. If you're the one who plays with your phone and thinking how amazing it is, well...... *no comment*.... 'no life'.
Not going to comment on overclock becouse I don't truly need it and will buy a new phone soon.
Root explorer allows root access, not astro.
In combination, suggesting is; add your own apps. You're not paying the developer neither does your opinion or the way you use your phone apply to everyone else on xda.
@mrandroid
lol nice avatar!
@chaos
don't feel insulted! we are just pointing you in the right way! everyone makes mistakes!
like me when i sent a pm to joost for the first time asking him which is the best rom as i am new to android and confused things like swiftdroid quarx etc.
Im not feeling insult, don't wqorry, i know it must be a senseless thread, d'u think it shal be deleted? :/
I think this topic is in the wrong category. The android development forum is getting more and more crowded. I think this topic should be in the general forum.
Though getting there, how to delete it from here?
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I think this topic is in the wrong category. The android development forum is getting more and more crowded. I think this topic should be in the general forum.
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This is a very small development community anyways. It should be included in development just to grab developer's attention
Enigma GIN & ICE
your specs for a rom done
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Though getting there, how to delete it from here?
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You can't delete it and don't worry about it.
chaosx8 said:
Though getting there, how to delete it from here?
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Since it's already here, you can't do anything about it.
MrAndroid12 said:
This is a very small development community anyways. It should be included in development just to grab developer's attention
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That's what I made it for, have devs attention so they give their best and take care of users attention so they give their best for to the ROM
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Hello

Well, I'm an x8 user, I'm gonna change the phone in some months and wanna ask if i really should buy this device
I know too much about roms cuz well I'm developing one
I wanna ask you guys, should i use it in stock and then wait for official ics or stock roms suck?
Does this phone really need all the stuff to work smooth? I mean custom kernel, rom etc because well its dualcore phone and looks that in some post i read, my phone works better
Thanks
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It's an awesome phone with cm7
well the stock rom it's not the best out there obviously... blatware apps, poor kernel make it a bad choice if you have alternatives.
for me, the best one is CM7, even better with a custom kernel like the Etana one. lots of tweaks and optimizations if you know what i mean
pidocchio said:
well the stock rom it's not the best out there obviously... blatware apps, poor kernel make it a bad choice if you have alternatives.
for me, the best one is CM7, even better with a custom kernel like the Etana one. lots of tweaks and optimizations if you know what i mean
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But an official update to ics wont be enough? cuz i guess LG will fix lots of things in ics
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Hi leroy.
I will give you my personal unbiased opinion about it.
I bought the phone and it came with stock froyo (android 2.2). And I thought it was fine. I could play games with no problems at all. Didn't experience any of the problems that lots of people were complaining about (SoD, bad battery life, etc). I "test-drove" it for three weeks more or less, just to make sure everything was working fine, and it was.
And then I flashed temasek's latest kang and vadonka's latest kernel. And I do not regret it one bit. The phone is smoother, more responsive, and battery life is better by at least 25%. Unfortunately I did not do a quadrant benchmark before flashing, so I don't have a before and after comparison, but the phone "feels" much better, no doubts about it.
LarsPT said:
Hi leroy.
I will give you my personal unbiased opinion about it.
I bought the phone and it came with stock froyo (android 2.2). And I thought it was fine. I could play games with no problems at all. Didn't experience any of the problems that lots of people were complaining about (SoD, bad battery life, etc). I "test-drove" it for three weeks more or less, just to make sure everything was working fine, and it was.
And then I flashed temasek's latest kang and vadonka's latest kernel. And I do not regret it one bit. The phone is smoother, more responsive, and battery life is better by at least 25%. Unfortunately I did not do a quadrant benchmark before flashing, so I don't have a before and after comparison, but the phone "feels" much better, no doubts about it.
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Thanks looks like a big change from phone to phone but i guess stock will be enough for a while, it will be a perfect phone and i will try development after using it for a while
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leroy_coco said:
Thanks looks like a big change from phone to phone but i guess stock will be enough for a while, it will be a perfect phone and i will try development after using it for a while
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I tend to believe that what differs from phone to phone is the "bloatware" that carrier dependent phones have installed. I bought an unbranded phone, so I am guessing that is the main reason why I was such a happy customer to begin with, even with stock ROM. A stock unbranded ROM, I might add.
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I tend to believe that what differs from phone to phone is the "bloatware" that carrier dependent phones have installed. I bought an unbranded phone, so I am guessing that is the main reason why I was such a happy customer to begin with, even with stock ROM. A stock unbranded ROM, I might add.
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So, theres a way ti change that bloatware?
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Sorry But i dont know what bloatware mean
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My definition of "bloatware" is basically crap software that your carrier (for example vodafone or movistar or whatever) preloads in your branded phone (phone sim locked to your carrier). This software is usually very bad software poorly developed that has memory leakage and drains your battery.
This might be a very biased opinion from me, but usually I like my operating systems to be as clean as possible, only with the software/applications I really need and use. This usually makes for a very fast, responsive and efficient system.
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My definition of "bloatware" is basically crap software that your carrier (for example vodafone or movistar or whatever) preloads in your branded phone (phone sim locked to your carrier). This software is usually very bad software poorly developed that has memory leakage and drains your battery.
This might be a very biased opinion from me, but usually I like my operating systems to be as clean as possible, only with the software/applications I really need and use. This usually makes for a very fast, responsive and efficient system.
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Well, so installing custom rom will replace craping software or just similar unlocking phone?
Also i have hear this is a great phone for developing, but why there's not too much moves as in our threads? Couldn't it be because the phone doesn't need too much developing?
Another question, will official ics fix that or i should upgrade to cm9?
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leroy_coco said:
Well, so installing custom rom will replace craping software or just similar unlocking phone?
Also i have hear this is a great phone for developing, but why there's not too much moves as in our threads? Couldn't it be because the phone doesn't need too much developing?
Another question, will official ics fix that or i should upgrade to cm9?
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Trust me, the devs for the O2X are awesome. They seriously do great jobs and even create miracles for this device. Just about a month ago, CM9 wasn't available. Many things didn't work, but now thanks to awesome guys like RC and Owain, they made it available to us.
If I were you I wouldn't wait do the official LG release. The GB release was way overdue. LG promised release dates they didn't met and I think this will also happen with ICS. LG said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of this year. I bet that LG won't release it then but probably in 2013 .
SP1996AC said:
Trust me, the devs for the O2X are awesome. They seriously do great jobs and even create miracles for this device. Just about a month ago, CM9 wasn't available. Many things didn't work, but now thanks to awesome guys like RC and Owain, they made it available to us.
If I were you I wouldn't wait do the official LG release. The GB release was way overdue. LG promised release dates they didn't met and I think this will also happen with ICS. LG said that they would release ICS during the 2nd quarter of this year. I bet that LG won't release it then but probably in 2013 .
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Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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leroy_coco said:
Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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Who needs that anyways?
HerrKuk said:
Who needs that anyways?
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Me, camera: i need an HD camera because i don't have one
HDMI: i have an LCD and i wanna get the best experience in gaming, movies etc
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leroy_coco said:
Crap
But cm is always better, more customization etc the only thing that worries me is that cm can me the phone lose some characteristics
I mean, i lose HDMI, the 8 MP camera is 6 MP camera that's what i mean
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I don't know if there is HDMI out or not in CM, because I've never used it while using CM, but it does work fine in MIUI.
And what do you mean by "8 MP is 6 MP"? I thought the resolution just stays the same. Either way, the stock camera app has been ported over to CM7 based roms, and it works just as good as in stock ROM.
Honestly, using MIUI (Wiui to be exact), the experience is alot better, and there is almost no feature sacrificed compared to stock
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I don't know if there is HDMI out or not in CM, because I've never used it while using CM, but it does work fine in MIUI.
And what do you mean by "8 MP is 6 MP"? I thought the resolution just stays the same. Either way, the stock camera app has been ported over to CM7 based roms, and it works just as good as in stock ROM.
Honestly, using MIUI (Wiui to be exact), the experience is alot better, and there is almost no feature sacrificed compared to stock
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I have lots if things to learn, but this is a good start
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For me, this phone is best in its class and value-for-money phone.
I only have 1 complain, The battery.
But once you get an extended battery, this phone is perfect.
But once you get an extended battery
What you mean?
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There are batteries you can buy with more capacity than the stock battery that comes with the phone.
However, I can easily get two day battery life with the stock battery, so personally I don't understand why so many people complain about their battery life. As far as I know it's about the same as other smart phones.

Weaker support from DEVS for optimus 2X ?

ICS arrived ,source code as well ... why nothing is happening in terms of new ROMs, kernels etc. ... Where did our developers gone ???
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You can blame the no audio bug for that. It's so random and at the same time crippling that no further development can begin until it's taken care of.
New and better phones probably, and with the persistent call bug getting the way i wouldnt blame them.
xalix said:
ICS arrived ,source code as well ... why nothing is happening in terms of new ROMs, kernels etc. ... Where did our developers gone ???
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I wouldn't call support weak... yes it has diminished since last year but that's true of many handsets - some devs sell or give away their old ones and move on to brand spanking new models (especially at the end of a contract). Plus, LG's reputation is making things worse.
Ricardo Cerqueira is still hard at work on the official CM10, and we have lots of people making modified versions of stock ICS or even CM10 derivations. Just not as many as during the CM7 days, but again, that should not be a surprise for any phone.
neovdr said:
You can blame the no audio bug for that. It's so random and at the same time crippling that no further development can begin until it's taken care of.
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That is only part of the problem, and not the biggest part, IMO... See, the stock ICS doesn't seem to have this bug, plain and simple. At least, I have yet to see a single report of it on a clean stock V30A. However, all custom ICS/JB ROMs that currently exist use either non-original bootloader, or the old GB partition layout, or both (you can also add a custom recovery to this equation). If someone would create a custom ICS ROM based on the new partition layout AND the new original bootloader, I am pretty certain it would be free of this particular bug. The problem is that the new bootloader is locked. Can someone crack it to unlock? I hope so, but so far the only unlocked bootloader by wkpark actually comes from SU660... ArCee and the CM team are trying to make it all work with the old BL and partition layout, and the other devs either follow suit (take a ROM by tonyp and Harsh as an example), or trying to make something based on the new partition layout, but with an unlocked SU660 bootloader. What I am waiting for is someone capable of unlocking the new original bootloader from P990 V30A.
I am not a dev, so it's just my uneducated opinion, but the logic here is really simple: the in-call audio bug exists only when you introduce non-original components...
xalix -- as regards to a "weaker support", I am disappointed about it myself... It doesn't mean I am complaining, because I just can't expect, let alone demand something from any developer -- they will do what they can (and what they want to do), in their due time. But yes, there is not a lot of activity right now, for a number of reasons. You are not the first to bring this up, some people already commented on it. Some good developers, like Topogigi, moved on to other devices (and some are probably planning to), some just left XDA (Stefan is gone, and he was one of the most active contributors when it comes to stock-based ROMs), some don't have enough expertise in particular areas (Carburano has been making wonderful DM ROMs, but he is admitting it would take him time to get the kernel tweaking going without others' help)... All in all, it's kinda slow now, yes. Frankly, I am not the biggest fan of CM ROMs (just couldn't get myself to like CM7, even though some people swear by it, or unofficial CM9 varieties), and would much rather have a tweaked stock as opposed to a CM, no matter the version. So, I am waiting for some progress, but I am not holding my breath at this time... Good thing is that the official stock V30A is working quite well for me, so I am just using my phone without problems, all the while waiting for some nice stable ROM...
xalix said:
ICS arrived ,source code as well ... why nothing is happening in terms of new ROMs, kernels etc. ... Where did our developers gone ???
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Yes, unfortunately I agree with you.
Stephan went out of xda because his fight about commits, and then topo, who was following stephan's work, sold his o2x. Then the kernel source was released and until now not a single stock rom with custom kernel compiled with p990 sources.
It's very sad. I would love to see just some gueste_ICS, but sometimes I think that people are more interested in following the rules than making it work.
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I don't understand why but devs still love this phone. So no point saying weaker support. Its the weak support from LG. And, the bootloader can be unlocked. We just need the ramdisk source and we are good to go
I agree with you louiscypherbr
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Yes, unfortunately I agree with you.
Stephan went out of xda because his fight about commits, and then topo, who was following stephan's work, sold his o2x. Then the kernel source was released and until now not a single stock rom with custom kernel compiled with p990 sources.
It's very sad. I would love to see just some gueste_ICS, but sometimes I think that people are more interested in following the rules than making it work.
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Since Stefan has gone i to miss Gueste_Ics im still using Stefans V28E as a daily driver, its a best rom i have seen no lgas no audio bugs, works smooth, i don't understand 1 thing as still the audio bug is there in CM10, we should give time to RC to fix the audio bug, but till then why the dev is not trying to use AOKP or building the custom modified stock rom with a custom kernel as the source are out, from past 1 year we are waiting for LG to release ICS and source now both are out but we are still waiting, don't know how much we have to wait more.
Plz God Give O2X Users More Patients Coz We Need It Desperately :angel:

Bootloader Wars

In the fall of year 2012. LG has finally released long awaited Ice Cream Sandwich update for it's former flagship, Optimus 2x. Short after, young warrior named wkpark cracked the new, locked ICS bootloader for this device. That is the day when Bootloader Wars begun. Lot of Optimus 2x users were eager to see that if LG made a proper job with it's official ICS. First custom stock ICS roms begun to emerging, and more and more users were converting on new, unlocked bootloader.
In meanwhile, developers on the old, GB bootloader didn't fell asleep. Official CM10 came out, there were even few attempts to bring stock ICS to old bootloader. But all ICS and JB roms on old bootloader had a critical flaw named 'call bug'. Because of that bug, even more users started using new instead old bootloader. But all of those who wanted to taste Jelly Bean on O2x were forced to stay on old bootloader. O2x community was separated in two fractions: ones that uses new bootloader, and the other that uses old one.
After some time in stalemate position, things have started to develop further. One member from notorious group The Penguins of Madagascar, pengus77 succeeded to boot up CM10 on the new bootloader. With it's brilliance, he brought the advantage on the new bootloader side. That impact cause a massive troops crossing towards new bootloader.
Another inversion occurred when marsgod fixed the infamous call bug on the old bootloader. It gave the new light for old bootloader users and developers. So, one can say that we're again in stalemate position. Which side will be victorious? No one can and won't predict... only time will tell.
DISCLAIMER: All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
I hope no one will bi offended with little war story I wrote above. If someone find it offending, or wants that I remove his nickname from it, feel free to PM me.
Point of this thread would be to see how much users are on new bootloader, and how much of them uses old one. I'll make poll about that. Also, I would like to hear why someone choose the one bootloader or the other? What are advantages over the other in your opinion? And are you ready to change bootloader again if the community will choose one way...
Also, since this is bootloader thread, I hope that people will stop spamming threads in developers subforum with posts such as: my bootloader is stronger than yours etc.
Let the battles begin! And please, don't start to offend other users because of their bootloader choice. Let's keep it nice and cosy.
And sorry if my english is not good enough, and some sentences sounds funny.
I am currently on new bootloader, but as soon as cm10 without wifi drain is available, I'll switch back to good ol' bootloader
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I'm on the new bootloader since stefan's v28E stock ICS. I'm happy with it, especially after pengus77 managed to get CM10 working on new BL. Currently using tonyP's PA with penguses kernel. I think it's nice combo.
About old bootloader... there isn't any stock ICS which is a minus. Official CM10.1 is still to buggy for me to use it as daily driver. CM7 (for stability and speed) is the only thing that would make me go back to old bootloader, and somehow I don't want to go back to GB. And CM10 on new BL seems to be enough stable and fast.
But if (when) one day CM10.1 become stable, and if whole community starts to roll back, I wouldn't mind another BL change.
I prefer to be with the new bootloader, because there are many ROMS that are becoming the new BL.
Greetings.
I dont even understand why people ***** about not have old bootloader version, why bother fixing all the issues with the old one when the new one works, its just they are too lazy to flash the new bootloader. The new bootloader is there for a reason.
Base on the same source new bootloader i don't have slow charge issue at least in mine case. Old bootloader the charging are endless hall for me.
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Base on the same source new bootloader i don't have slow charge issue at least in mine case. Old bootloader the charging are endless hall for me.
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I have been on the old bootloader and charging is absolutely fine since over a month. I will stick with RC and official CM, who else can give us daily bug fixes besides cyanogenmod. As for device apecific bugs, I am sure we will have kernel fkx by pengus.
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I dont even understand why people ***** about not have old bootloader version, why bother fixing all the issues with the old one when the new one works, its just they are too lazy to flash the new bootloader. The new bootloader is there for a reason.
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Exactly my point, why move to a new BL when I am going to run CM 10 only which is only officially supported on the old BL.
Another thread about that?
This will lead into an android vs apple fight, where the loudest people are the ones with the lowest knowledge about what they're talking about.
Fact is: Both bootloaders don't suffer from the callbug and can be considered totally stable for a daily use.
Some people have a slow charging bug with the old one - I for myself never suffered from that with my Nexus 7 charging cable - so try not to use a cheap usb cable.
So choose whatever you want for whatever reason you like and stop telling others what they should do.
AW: Bootloader Wars
I am on new bootloader because of penugs. But actually who really cares? Changing bl is thanks to the AIO really easy. So my decision is not about the bl but the roms. I will choose the roms I am interested in and if I have to change the bl again it doesn't matter. I think this discussion about bl is nonsense.
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Great write up, well done :thumbup:
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I don't see point to move to new bootloader.
I am on tonyp's PA, pengus Kernel, and everything is working, no slow charging etc.
Also on CM10 everything was ok.
im on new BL:fingers-crossed:
Pascalwb said:
I don't see point to move to new bootloader.
I am on tonyp's PA, pengus Kernel, and everything is working, no slow charging etc.
Also on CM10 everything was ok.
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Really? I shall try that one then! Because official CM10.1 is buggy as hell lately... I've been getting SoD's, which I never had, gTalk video is dead (even though apparently there's a flashable zip to correct that), I've had the charge bug (with an original blackberry charger... so I don't think it qualifies as cheap crap usb cable), the phone feels laggier than normal, voice recognition fails miserably... the list goes on...
those reporting about "slow charging" bug, need to know if you charging with screen ON or OFF. i am on old bl and with screen on via usb connected to the pc, slow charging (15%hour) but maybe cause screen is on with autobrightness. with screen off i can get 25%hor, so i do not think it can be considered "slow charging"....could any more confirm this "slow charging" bug or just "screen on with charging" bug?
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Really? I shall try that one then! Because official CM10.1 is buggy as hell lately... I've been getting SoD's, which I never had, gTalk video is dead (even though apparently there's a flashable zip to correct that), I've had the charge bug (with an original blackberry charger... so I don't think it qualifies as cheap crap usb cable), the phone feels laggier than normal, voice recognition fails miserably... the list goes on...
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Yop, I tried CM10.1 too before PA, it wasn't smooth like CM10 or PA and other roms, I think it's too soon.
I had slow charging with earlier CM10 builds with SU660 source codes, but it was only on one build.
Pascalwb said:
I don't see point to move to new bootloader.
I am on tonyp's PA, pengus Kernel, and everything is working, no slow charging etc.
Also on CM10 everything was ok.
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I remember seeing a post from pengus77 with an interesting point:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36824970#post36824970
The work of rc / the whole group behind CM is beyond great... but I cannot help but wonder the future is somewhere else than old bl...
I'm on a new bootloader, but I prefer, cm roms, but cm10 and cm10.1 is fine with new bl.
I belive, old bl, is OK for thistime, I just want a newer cmw, and newer bl
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I just want a newer cmw, and newer bl
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just because "new" automatically means "better"... am i right?
Most of the time it is better but also restrictive
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I'm running cm10 on boot loader with WiFi conserving kernel. Not totally as stable as cm.2 but its getting there.

Addiction

I think I'm addicted to flashing ROMS. I've flashed just about everyone I can find for my T. Even when I get settled with a ROM I truly like (Hybrid/ CM 10.2) I think to myself 'oooh, I'll just try that one with a different kernel on the off chance I can get 4 minutes more battery and a speed increase that can't be registered with the human eye.'
I'm now checking XDA more than I check Facebook on the off chance that some genius like @tilal6991 has posted a semi-stable 4.4 build.
I only rooted/ unlocked bootloader 4 weeks ago. I feel I've come a long way!
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I think I'm addicted to flashing ROMS. I've flashed just about everyone I can find for my T. Even when I get settled with a ROM I truly like (Hybrid/ CM 10.2) I think to myself 'oooh, I'll just try that one with a different kernel on the off chance I can get 4 minutes more battery and a speed increase that can't be registered with the human eye.'
I'm now checking XDA more than I check Facebook on the off chance that some genius like @tilal6991 has posted a semi-stable 4.4 build.
I only rooted/ unlocked bootloader 4 weeks ago. I feel I've come a long way!
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Where is the post of that semi stable build?Can't find it.
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A test build of 4.4 has been posted by Thomas on his OmniROM thread - it does have a couple of showstopper bugs like calls not going out and screen flashing everytime you select something (there's a hack around this) as well as broken GPS. It is out there though.
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I think I'm addicted to flashing ROMS. I've flashed just about everyone I can find for my T. Even when I get settled with a ROM I truly like (Hybrid/ CM 10.2) I think to myself 'oooh, I'll just try that one with a different kernel on the off chance I can get 4 minutes more battery and a speed increase that can't be registered with the human eye.'
I'm now checking XDA more than I check Facebook on the off chance that some genius like @tilal6991 has posted a semi-stable 4.4 build.
I only rooted/ unlocked bootloader 4 weeks ago. I feel I've come a long way!
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Don't worry, we've all been there
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Paradelle said:
I think I'm addicted to flashing ROMS. I've flashed just about everyone I can find for my T. Even when I get settled with a ROM I truly like (Hybrid/ CM 10.2) I think to myself 'oooh, I'll just try that one with a different kernel on the off chance I can get 4 minutes more battery and a speed increase that can't be registered with the human eye.'
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I am rooted with CWM recovery (Commonly Weak Recovery) but I am still addicted to flash about every girl I can find. Even though I get settled with one I truly like, I think myself 'ooooh, I still wish I could try the one with the different eye colour or shape.
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I only rooted/ unlocked bootloader 4 weeks ago. I feel I've come a long way!
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Flash addiction is a difficult to cure disease. Welcome to our sick club x)
Thank you! It is nice to know I'm not alone. I'm quite certain that I'll be buying my next phone purely on how many roms/kernels are available for it.
I had the same problem with my Xperia Arc. Pretty annoying sometimes when my phone didn't work properly when i needed it hha. But it was fun.
Weird thing is that i don't feel the need to do the same with this phone, i feel like the last jb firmware Works perfect and i don't have the need to mess with it. I rooted this phone a few months ago but it resulted in a performance decrease. So i.haven't felt the need to root again since then.
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I rooted this phone a few months ago but it resulted in a performance decrease. So i.haven't felt the need to root again since then.
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Any explanation for this?
I'm now checking XDA more than I check Facebook on the off chance that some genius like @tilal6991 has posted a semi-stable 4.4 build.
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hahhahahah...so true! I love your message!
i used to be exactly the same i have calmed down a lot now i used to flash a rom at least once a day even if it was one i had used a couple of days ago just to see the difference the rom i am currently using makes if any or i would grow tireless knowing i have the ability to flash new roms but was not doing so .... i bricked a few galaxy ace's in the early days when i didn't know what i was doing and thought i could skip steps etc but once i knew what i was doing there was no stopping me i became that addicted i was flashing my friends phones with different roms too .... i have calmed down a lot now flashing only 3 - 4 times a week instead of the 7 - 100000000000000000's of times a week
(100000000000000000's is not literal but just a way of expressing countless amounts of times)
i think i have had almost all JB roms running on my T at least twice now i flick between omni, honami v5, and keep trying the 4.3 version of pacman from buildbasket waiting for a stable release .... honami is my daily because i get to use doomkernel and OC and its got enough tweaks in it to make me feel like im not stuck on boring stock rom lol for me im always looking for functions and OC and unfortunatly unless you ar on stock OC just isnt there .... sure on one of the AOKP projects you can OC to 1.7 but thats a whole 0.2 less than on a stock with doomkernel might not sound like much but it can make a difference also doomkernel comes with governors that are tweaked for dual core again something that is missing from CM AOKP etc ....... hopefully omni will resolve this issue for me and i can spread my wings a little once they have a few more settings and OC / governors are fixed up
I think I've flashed every ROM on XDA at least three times. Just in case I was missing something. The odd thing is that almost every time I flash a new ROM, I think it's better than the previous one. Which is mental. I must have flashed Rimmer's MIUI ROM 6 times. Every time I flash it I love it because it's beautiful. Then 12 hours later I get annoyed at having all the apps on the homescreen as I like it to be minimal, so I flash another ROM.
Two days later I flash it back because it's beautiful. And on and on.
*sigh*
Normally I use either peetr_'s Hybrid ROM with Doomkernel, or CM 10.2. I find Hybrid with the kernel OC is snappier, I find CM 10.2 to be smoother. These are the two I return to on a regular basis. I always feel like I'm cheating on them, both with each other and with any of the other ROMs. Again, this is mental!
Very excited for when the T gets 4.3 and we get a kernel that can be OC!
Also, I like the XDA community. Every seems nice and chilled. Generally.
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I think I've flashed every ROM on XDA at least three times. Just in case I was missing something. The odd thing is that almost every time I flash a new ROM, I think it's better than the previous one. Which is mental. I must have flashed Rimmer's MIUI ROM 6 times. Every time I flash it I love it because it's beautiful. Then 12 hours later I get annoyed at having all the apps on the homescreen as I like it to be minimal, so I flash another ROM.
Two days later I flash it back because it's beautiful. And on and on.
*sigh*
Normally I use either peetr_'s Hybrid ROM with Doomkernel, or CM 10.2. I find Hybrid with the kernel OC is snappier, I find CM 10.2 to be smoother. These are the two I return to on a regular basis. I always feel like I'm cheating on them, both with each other and with any of the other ROMs. Again, this is mental!
Very excited for when the T gets 4.3 and we get a kernel that can be OC!
Also, I like the XDA community. Every seems nice and chilled. Generally.
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im not always nice and chilled i get annoyed at noobs who ask things that have been answered hundreds of times or state something as a fact when the rest of the world know it is something completely different but i try to keep a lid on it although im sure it hasnt gone unnoticed when i have let off the steam lol .... MIUI is a really tasty rom and is real nice but i feel like i am back on iOS too much with it ... all the greatness of android with all the rubbish of iOS lol and if you install another launcher it just isn't the same the launcher was designed for that rom so why put a new one on there when there are lots of other roms to try ..... i love the honami rom like all roms it has its limits and its bugs and its by far not the quickest one out there but it serves most of my needs out the box i just wish somebody would fix up pacman rom on 4.3 had repeated problems with it not restarting instead going into bootloop after installing roms .... i will openly admit i don't know everything as i can not build my own rom i wish i knew how as i would gladly take on building pacman rom 4.3 .... anyway enjoy your T flash until you discover that magic rom .... it might even be 4.4 once they have that up and running smoothly .... once omni gets its features that will almost certainly become my daily but its just a little basic for my needs at the current time lol .... if i can help out in any ways just give me a shout i might be able to help if not im sure somebody else will be able to between the who communities collective there is a vast amount of knowledge to be tapped into
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Any explanation for this?
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I think it was caused by greenify but i'm not sure.
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I think it was caused by greenify but i'm not sure.
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I had this impression regarding Greenify, especially since the auto-greenify feature is implemented. I can't imagine that rooting would slow down the phone.
Actually my V's stock ROM is a very good compromise in between performance, stability and fluid use. The 4.12 is rock solid and virtually lag free on my device. Well I flashed Honami Experience, but that is stock based.
Yes, it is very hard to resist this addiction ..I even infected my GF. She have Galaxy mini (terrible display) with CM10.1 some mods ..still better than stock sammy ROM.
Before Xperia T I have ACE 2 and I hated that lack of ROMs on this phone. So , after 5 months with this phone i bought T. and now I am in paradise .
Almost every day a CM or Miui update and now i flashed OmniROM from Tilal.. What a great feeling with 4.4.
Thanks OP for this Rom, made me smile
In truth, I have gone completely the other way, I used to be a flashaholic and flash new roms daily, it started with the X10 and i then bought an Xperia T off the shelf just so I could unlock the B/L - having played with everything there is to offer on here for the last year I finally trailed off flashing and the other day I flash an official stock Rom and re-locked my bootloader so as to get official 4.3 through SEUS or PCC
lol
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Thanks OP for this Rom, made me smile
In truth, I have gone completely the other way, I used to be a flashaholic and flash new roms daily, it started with the X10 and i then bought an Xperia T off the shelf just so I could unlock the B/L - having played with everything there is to offer on here for the last year I finally trailed off flashing and the other day I flash an official stock Rom and re-locked my bootloader so as to get official 4.3 through SEUS or PCC
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lol I was just about to do the same thing when tilal released his 4.4 OmniRom. It's excellent. Now, I'm not trying to suggest you come back to the darkside, but it's well worth a flash...
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lol I was just about to do the same thing when tilal released his 4.4 OmniRom. It's excellent. Now, I'm not trying to suggest you come back to the darkside, but it's well worth a flash...
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i must resieeeeeeeessssssttttt....
lol
I'll see how the next official release goes then consider my options, maybe unlock my B/L again, we'll see!!
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Weird thing is that i don't feel the need to do the same with this phone, i feel like the last jb firmware Works perfect and i don't have the need to mess with it. I rooted this phone a few months ago but it resulted in a performance decrease. So i.haven't felt the need to root again since then.
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I know, right? This is the very first phone I own that hasn't been flashed or rooted even. For the very first time, I haven't felt the need. Actually, that's saying something for Sony. Kudos to them!
Now back to eagerly awaiting my 4.3 update...

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