I turned a hobby into a pretty decent job - Off-topic

I've been involved in cell phones since 1999 when I was selling them. This was back when there were bag phones you had to put together and you could really tinker with stuff. Then came digital and cell phones got much more boring. I still loved them and sold them until 2008.
I got into Android and really liked how much stuff I could mess with even though I had no idea what I was doing. I tried writing apps but I suck at code. I'm also color blind, so theming wasn't my thing. Then I got my Samsung Vibrant. The phone was both my best friend and worst enemy. The charging port went bad and since I was rooted, I didn't dare warranty it. So I took it apart to see what I could see. I ended up fixing it pretty easily. Then someone came up with a mod where you could install a front facing camera. I again took my phone apart and the install went great.
I finally found something I could do. Hardware.
I love tinkering and I also really like money, so I started doing screen replacements for friends. Now its kind of boomed and I'm doing 2-10 jobs while still working at my real job full time. Its a stress reliever for me to come home after a long boring day and get to tear something apart, fix it, then make it shiny and new again.
So that's my new hobby that just happens to pay pretty well. It also makes for some pretty cool pics
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The interesting part is iPhones and iPods give me the most work. However I have never owned an iDevice and probably never will. They are also much cheaper to work on than Android phones.

If you don't mind me asking, how much do you charge for replacing digi/LCD on the iPhone 4/4S not counting parts?
And this reminds me, I need to start advertising again.

jaszek said:
If you don't mind me asking, how much do you charge for replacing digi/LCD on the iPhone 4/4S not counting parts?
And this reminds me, I need to start advertising again.
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I just changed my pricing around. For iPhones I charge $30 for labor. iPods, $40 and iPads $50.
It beats the competition and works out to roughly $50/hour on average.

rudeguy said:
I just changed my pricing around. For iPhones I charge $30 for labor. iPods, $40 and iPads $50.
It beats the competition and works out to roughly $50/hour on average.
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Yea, that's pretty much what I charge. But I mostly deal with computers, so windows reinstall is $70, LCD replacement $40, and everything else I just come up with prices on the fly. My competition is the store I work at

jaszek said:
...windows reinstall is $70...
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Holy mother of mark-ups Batman!

063_XOBX said:
Holy mother of mark-ups Batman!
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The store I work at, we charge $85. I hear stories of people charging $100+

jaszek said:
The store I work at, we charge $85. I hear stories of people charging $100+
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Wow. That's a lot!
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jaszek said:
The store I work at, we charge $85. I hear stories of people charging $100+
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To put in a Live CD and let Windows installer do everything?I gotta get into that racket.

Urahara said:
Wow. That's a lot!
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People pay it, so I don't care. I think it's time to raise my prices by $5 for the new year. Sent out an ad today, so should start getting phone calls soon.

jaszek said:
People pay it, so I don't care. I think it's time to raise my prices by $5 for the new year. Sent out an ad today, so should start getting phone calls soon.
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Hey, if people are willing to pay it, do it!
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jaszek said:
People pay it, so I don't care. I think it's time to raise my prices by $5 for the new year. Sent out an ad today, so should start getting phone calls soon.
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Mind letting me see how you advertise your services? I'm way over in Fl so I'm obviously no competition, just curious to see what gets the phone ringing.

063_XOBX said:
Mind letting me see how you advertise your services? I'm way over in Fl so I'm obviously no competition, just curious to see what gets the phone ringing.
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It's a Polish classifieds website. I use a google voice number, so my boss doesn't ***** at me again for stealing customers.
THis is my ad:
Naprawa komputerow i telefonow komorkowych. Przeistalowanie windowsa, spolszczanie systemow, uaktualnienia, wymiana czesci, naprawa zbitych ekranow. Android i iPhone. Tanio, szybko i solidnie. Mozliwosc zaplaty karta kredytowa lub gotowka.
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Which translates to:
Computer and phone repair. Windows reinstallations, language changes (Polish), updating, parts replacement, broken screen repairs. Android and iPhone. Cheap, fast, and solid. Payment accepted with credit cards or cash.
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It's a Polish classifieds website. I use a google voice number, so my boss doesn't ***** at me again for stealing customers.
THis is my ad:
Which translates to:
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I'm assuming you use a Square card reader for CC's?

jaszek said:
Yea, that's pretty much what I charge. But I mostly deal with computers, so windows reinstall is $70, LCD replacement $40, and everything else I just come up with prices on the fly. My competition is the store I work at
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Ftw 70 $ for 15-20 mins windows install :shocked: that's too much
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I'm assuming you use a Square card reader for CC's?
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DanceOff said:
Ftw 70 $ for 15-20 mins windows install :shocked: that's too much
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Ummmm no. Most of these computers are not super fast, so 40 minutes to install the OS, then find and install all of the drivers since XP and VISTA don't have a lot of them in Windows Update, then install all the software like antiVir, etc. Then when the client has photos he wants to save, and sometimes I've had to copy 100gb of files to my drive, then copy that back. THat's about 3-4 hours of work non-stop. And I need breaks to eat. Remember, most of these clients don't have top of the line computers like you do. They are in the dark when it comes to tech, and they would never know how to do the stuff themselves. But if you think that's too much, do it yourself, just don't ask any IT guy why your 'X'* isn't working after you reinstalled windows. I've had people think they can do it themselves, and that means more work for me then it would be in the first place since they ALWAYS mess something up. I charge them more then.
* X = whatever it is that's not working.

Whoa!! You just gave me a great idea. I should start a business of installing custom ROMs and themes for people and charge them some great cash. It's unethical but who cares. BTW it's great that you are doing something you like.
If i may ask, is this a part time job?
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ak700 said:
Whoa!! You just gave me a great idea. I should start a business of installing custom ROMs and themes for people and charge them some great cash. It's unethical but who cares. BTW it's great that you are doing something you like.
If i may ask, is this a part time job?
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If you're asking me, I just do it from time to time for some extra cash.
And for ROMS/Rooting, they charge $25 around here.
But you have to remember, if you do that, you are their tech support, and whatever doesnt work good on the rom, it'll be your fault and you have to fix it, and they dont care the developer didn't get it to work yet.

ak700 said:
Whoa!! You just gave me a great idea. I should start a business of installing custom ROMs and themes for people and charge them some great cash. It's unethical but who cares. BTW it's great that you are doing something you like.
If i may ask, is this a part time job?
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I won't root/jail break/install software. Too many variables and too many follow up calls. I like one and done.
I have a full time job as well. I work in a call center for a large cable company taking disconnects.
The funny part is I applied at Apple to do over the phone tech support on iPhones but apparently I'm not qualified. However my friend who didn't even know how to reboot her iPhone did get that job. These companies crack me up.
I really wish there was a bigger market for color conversion. That's something I really want to do but no one wants to pay for it.

jaszek said:
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Ummmm no. Most of these computers are not super fast, so 40 minutes to install the OS, then find and install all of the drivers since XP and VISTA don't have a lot of them in Windows Update, then install all the software like antiVir, etc. Then when the client has photos he wants to save, and sometimes I've had to copy 100gb of files to my drive, then copy that back. THat's about 3-4 hours of work non-stop. And I need breaks to eat. Remember, most of these clients don't have top of the line computers like you do. They are in the dark when it comes to tech, and they would never know how to do the stuff themselves. But if you think that's too much, do it yourself, just don't ask any IT guy why your 'X'* isn't working after you reinstalled windows. I've had people think they can do it themselves, and that means more work for me then it would be in the first place since they ALWAYS mess something up. I charge them more then.
* X = whatever it is that's not working.
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No buddy I also have a bad PC specs are
3 GHz core i3 overclocked by multiplier trick to 3.5 GHz
4 Gb ddr3 ram
And 512 Mb pre installed graphics card
Now that's pretty bad only good part is fast hardisk I get 70 MB/s normally while cut/copy/paste
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To put in a Live CD and let Windows installer do everything?I gotta get into that racket.
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and how much do you pay for a doctor's visit for a cough & cold?
that is the real racket.
This is peanuts.

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Buying nook off Craigslist

Ad says its running cm7. Anything I should look for or check to make sure I'm not getting screwed?
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Don't pay extra because it has CM7 is on it. Installing CM7 is almost trivial now days. Going back to stock can be pain, not because it's difficult but because there are so many different tutorials and its confusing.
I would say skip it and buy one so you can hack it and learn. I wouldn't hesitate if the CM7 one is a good deal. You can pick up refurbed NCs for about $200 on line. If there is an issue with a refurb BN is pretty good about replacing it.
If it works good and looks good it should be fine. Read developers posts to set up the way you want. You can even put it back to stock if you want.
Someone smarter than I can probably give more details on this but I'm not sure it's a good idea to buy it with CM7 already installed. It might seem like a time saver but when I was playing with my girlfriends NC I wiped, cleared, did a bunch of stuff and when I went back to stock it would only let me register it with the ORIGINAL email and password. To put it another way, if they did not de-register the device before installing CM7 going back to stock will be (in my experience) a real pain in the neck since you have to have that original info to clear BN's opening screens and be able to attach the device to your email / account. There might be some simple way around this but I don't recall seeing it mentioned in the threads I've read. Personally I would rather buy one that is stock so I can just go in and click de-register and know it's done rather than have someone tell me it was and not know if they remembered things accurately. I'm sure a call to BN would eventually fix it but that's not much fun.
Thanks for the info.
Supposed to meet up tomorrow. Hope it goes smoothly. I been trying to find one for a while, but $250 is more than I can spend right now or I'd just get a brand new one.
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I'll give you first hand why you should be wary of Craig's list with CM7.
Here's the 'scam' that's being run - these guys get a bad credit card or a bad check or whatever and buy the nook. Or maybe they just swipe one. As soon as B&N finds out, with a report from a store or from the stolen credit card, they blacklist the device. The actual device serial number is on the receipts, so they can do this.
Now, what that means is that you can't register the NC, no matter how hard you try. B&N won't unblacklist it, even if you're the "unknowing victim" here. If you're running CM7, no big deal. But if you want to run stock, you would have issues. And that's if you can live with having stolen merchandise.
After getting rooked like this, I just ask for the device serial number. If they're legit, they should have no problems giving it to you. Then just call up B&N and tell them you're buying a used Nook and you want to make sure that it's legit. They'll be able to tell you when and where it was purchased (by store #, but you can look that up) and whether it is blacklisted or not.
I had one someone was was selling one "New in the box" for $200. It was purchased in Atlanta on Friday and on Craig's list on Tuesday, 750 miles away. I don't think they realized what I would do with the serial number, but once I saw that, I knew it was a scam - why would anyone take a $50 loss on an unopened Nook 4 days after buying it?
Anyway, that's what to look for, be worried about, and how to allay your concerns, if you have any.
BTW make sure there's a sdcard. 2GB at least.
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Anyway, that's what to look for, be worried about, and how to allay your concerns, if you have any.
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I got the serial number without a fuss, called B an N, but they just gave me the run around... what number did you call? I used 1-800-the-book....
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I think the first time I had to call them I used the-book and then they gave me another number at one point, but they should have been able to help you. I had no problems at all - called 3 different times and got answers and info.
Negrito said:
Thanks for the info.
Supposed to meet up tomorrow. Hope it goes smoothly. I been trying to find one for a while, but $250 is more than I can spend right now or I'd just get a brand new one.
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Check eBay. Using PayPal can give you some protection and save some $$ sometimes. I got one used for $190 (stock) just to play with keeping the other stable.
skeeterpro said:
Check eBay. Using PayPal can give you some protection and save some $$ sometimes. I got one used for $190 (stock) just to play with keeping the other stable.
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i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Fekish said:
i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Not entirely sure what the challenges would be other than power connections, Market access and possibly wifi protocols. I've read in Canada Google Apps shows different apps than here in USA so that might be applicable there. Not sure. I would definately check the power/recharge specs though. I'm sure there are other more knowledgable on this than I here who can chime in.
As we are not concerned about connecting to a Network, i dont think there should be any other issue. We are on Android, so connecting to a Market should be something easy to overcome!
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Fekish said:
i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Watch out on ebay sometimes you will find devices from european sellers for fair pricing, buy from oversea and you maybe make no advantage of the better price due custom duty
There are none other problems, get an power adapter and that's it, yeah it's true some apps are only accessable on the market with US based IP adress.
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Watch out on ebay sometimes you will find devices from european sellers for fair pricing, buy from oversea and you maybe make no advantage of the better price due custom duty
There are none other problems, get an power adapter and that's it, yeah it's true some apps are only accessable on the market with US based IP adress.
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Yes i know thanks, bought about 200 things from internet outside europe
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Caution is always needed but I've bought 4 off of craigslist. Even if cm7 is already installed you can always wipe n reinstall -assuming of course you don't need stock nook
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Some nookcolors have issues with screen sensitivity and registering phantom taps. I got mine at best buy and also bought the extended protection, so they will give me a new one even if I drop the device and crack the screen.
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indagroove said:
Some nookcolors have issues with screen sensitivity and registering phantom taps. I got mine at best buy and also bought the extended protection, so they will give me a new one even if I drop the device and crack the screen.
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Wow, I remember you from ppcgeeks! I bought the nook, I like it so far... but is it just me or is CM7 really unstable? I have apps force close quite a bit.
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Negrito said:
Wow, I remember you from ppcgeeks! I bought the nook, I like it so far... but is it just me or is CM7 really unstable? I have apps force close quite a bit.
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Did you format system, data, and cache before flashing CM7, or just wipe? CM7 is quite stable for me.
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Did you format system, data, and cache before flashing CM7, or just wipe? CM7 is quite stable for me.
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It was already flashed when I bought it. So that may be the problem. I havent had time to sit down mess with it yet. Hopefully the 2.3.4 drops this week then I'll just upgrade to that.

You know I love WP7... so I bought an HD2

[Edit: HD2 at home]
Hi! I just wanted to let you know guys that I'm moving to WP7. I love WP7 (so I made NOVA WP7 theme and the WP7 themed Apps) so it had to happen some day.
I found a xda Marketplace user who was willing to trade his HTC HD2, the phone I will always love, for my Black. We were up to do it, until my parent decided to get me an HD7 to avoid me doing a phone trading on the Internet (pretty risky).
It's not an HD2 and I won't be able to have Android on it, but it's its brother and won't make me spend hours trying new ROMs: I have to study now and can't waste my time so hard.
I will be here until I get it, and will keep the Black at least until I receive the HD7, then I will try to sell it.
I guess I won't make it to see ICS LOL (neither do you ) Hahaha sure CM9 will come soon.
Not saying good bye yet, just an "I'm leaving soon".
haha ..gud luk wid that ..
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haha ..gud luk wid that ..
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Something I should be aware of?
yes... windows ...
well I`ve had WP7 on my HD2 and it`s not so impressive....it`s kind of a business look and that`s all about it i`m afraid :| very minimalistic graphics in the UI....but anyway HTC are such good phone, I hope you`ll enjoy yours....I`m thinking to sell my OB and buy a Sensation XL.
wish you good luck
from android to Windows phone ??
damm drugs
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well I`ve had WP7 on my HD2 and it`s not so impressive....it`s kind of a business look and that`s all about it i`m afraid :| very minimalistic graphics in the UI....but anyway HTC are such good phone, I hope you`ll enjoy yours....I`m thinking to sell my OB and buy a Sensation XL.
wish you good luck
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That's what I love. Plain simple structure. I have my ROM fully customized as WP7 since some time ago. That must be a signal haha
I'm just tired of the unstability of the Black, battery specially. Always draining with no reason, can't trust it... although I love my Black. I will keep it for a while so... I can always go back if I don't like WP7. But I think I'll love it
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Noooooooo!!!
man!!!!....i cannot imagine that we are loosing another modder!!!!we perhaps have the most neglected forum for a phone with good hardware!!!!
and on top of this u r going!!!!BTW, me and mah dad, both are pretty "gadget" freaks.
my dad has a lumia 800 and an N9. the minimalism, speed and sleekness of the lumia beats my black hands down, but even my iphone4s feels the same(though it did cost much much much more than the lumia 800)
btw, the coolest phone i have ever seen is the N9.it's awesome
on a whole, am hurt that u are leaving .....u got a HD7 dosen't mean u HAVE to sell the BALCK. keep it man and keep modding...pleaseeeee
Can you even download any file off the internet using the default browser on wp7? :/
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yeomond said:
Can you even download any file off the internet using the default browser on wp7? :/
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He can try to use a Bluetooth keyboard connected and press ctrl+alt+del
WP7 is nice. The same thing i can say with iOS but the only problem is no 3rd party keyboard. Im already 50wpm in messagease for android without using any word prediction and autocorrection.
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I want burning my black... If I just had another smartphone... xD
Congrats antonio, I suppose I won't read you again at elandroidelibre xD
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Black is a great affordable smartphone. I love it, but you all know I'm a WP7 lover. In fact, I bought my second Android (Black) because 1. I love Android, 2. It was at great price at that moment and 3. WP7 didn't have Whatsapp. Now it does.
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man!!!!....i cannot imagine that we are loosing another modder!!!!we perhaps have the most neglected forum for a phone with good hardware!!!!
and on top of this u r going!!!!BTW, me and mah dad, both are pretty "gadget" freaks.
my dad has a lumia 800 and an N9. the minimalism, speed and sleekness of the lumia beats my black hands down, but even my iphone4s feels the same(though it did cost much much much more than the lumia 800)
btw, the coolest phone i have ever seen is the N9.it's awesome
on a whole, am hurt that u are leaving .....u got a HD7 dosen't mean u HAVE to sell the BALCK. keep it man and keep modding...pleaseeeee
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Yeah, we must be on the best-devices-without-proper-development top of forums. We had knzo over all but he didn't even named himself developer if I remember well (his dedication/studies aren't informatics). It's a hobby for him, although he is great and the best we've had (@knzo, you know you are the best Black dev! )
I'm sorry I'm "leaving", but this forum has been being more dead every day, and anyway, I don't have time to mod anymore. You've seen I stopped theming and I said many times I need all my time to study now. I appreciate your words
I love the N9, but I know that if I go there, I will cry because of lack of development. WP7 isn't as expanded as Android, but at least there is a considerable community. Even HD7 has like 6 or 7 ROMs LOL! (no big changes, but anyway). And the Lumia 800 is new and apart from few bugs I've read (every phone does), I found the HD7 at great price and I don't like spending 500$ on an unlocked phone like Lumia. I can but I never liked :S
And remember, I started this thing yesterday in a opportunity to trade it for a HD2. So I'm doing this "buy first, then sell yours" thing because trading was too risky (parents said, and that's right). It's an independent kind of trading LOL and I finally decided for HD7 because HD2 would keep me testing Android, Meego, WP7,... and I would lose my study time. I guess I just need a working phone. The less it can be modded, the less time I will waste.
I'm not selling Black until I'm sure HD7 is the next step. This is what this method allows me. I don't need to sell the Black neither, but it would be pointless keeping 2 medium-high-high level smartphones that are losing value every day.
But thank you.
yeomond said:
Can you even download any file off the internet using the default browser on wp7? :/
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No idea. But if I can't install apk's from browser... what else should I be downloading at? LOL I guess I will be able to long-press a picture to save it :S Haha not the biggest problem.
BoyBawang2 said:
WP7 is nice. The same thing i can say with iOS but the only problem is no 3rd party keyboard. Im already 50wpm in messagease for android without using any word prediction and autocorrection.
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It's said that WP7 keyboard is the best/one of the bests. Actually, you should see my Android keyboard, it's a WP7-modded I made (never published). I love it LOL. Here it is:
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If you compare the picture with the real one, there are differences, although in Android I think this one looks better than any other ****ty WP7 keyboard I've ever seen for Android (IMHO)
I never liked any other Android 3rd party keyboards...
Hey! Congrats on your new possession.
Even I was thinking of buying HD7,but I went for LG OB.
Its was mere coz of the battery, HD7 has a 1230mAh battery as compared to the 1500mAh in LG OB.
The WP7 phones have a nice feel, but as i have read about all the restrictions... on earlier builds u couldn't even have an custom ringtone lol, connect to your pc only through zune etc, etc, etc, it's just not for me
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The WP7 phones have a nice feel, but as i have read about all the restrictions... on earlier builds u couldn't even have an custom ringtone lol, connect to your pc only through zune etc, etc, etc, it's just not for me
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Yeah I read about that but with Mango it's fixed I think. One thing I like of WP7 (apart from its beauty) is the non-fragmentation of the updates, so I hope I don't have to feel disappointed again for not having the updates
I guess I will have to get used to its closeness, just as I had an iPhone LOL
Wow, I thought I'd be the only one to have made the change hahaha xD I switched my OB for a HTC 7 Mozart. Heh, I know it's a mid-ranged windows phone, but up till now, I must say I'm enjoying the whole experience. But to be honest, I miss the days when I could come here and try all the stuff that Huexx or Aprold was developing >< Metro is good looking & as someone put it: business like I also like the way the OS is infused with messenger, facebook & twitter. A single touch and all the facebook, twitter & linked in profiles of a contact is linked together, very convenient in my point of view
And yes antonio, you are right. There is Whatsapp now and many more apps in the marketplace ^^
Though I don't own an OB now, I can't help but come back here to check things out. Any new development still excites me in a way
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Wow, I thought I'd be the only one to have made the change hahaha xD I switched my OB for a HTC 7 Mozart. Heh, I know it's a mid-ranged windows phone, but up till now, I must say I'm enjoying the whole experience. But to be honest, I miss the days when I could come here and try all the stuff that Huexx or Aprold was developing >< Metro is good looking & as someone put it: business like I also like the way the OS is infused with messenger, facebook & twitter. A single touch and all the facebook, twitter & linked in profiles of a contact is linked together, very convenient in my point of view
And yes antonio, you are right. There is Whatsapp now and many more apps in the marketplace ^^
Though I don't own an OB now, I can't help but come back here to check things out. Any new development still excites me in a way
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Thank you! You give me pretty much peace knowing I will be happy enough. If you like it, I'll love it
I know I won't be able to make mods and theme anything I want, but on one hand, all I themed has been to make it WP7, and on the other hand, I don't have time to mod or try mods anymore. Just need something stable and closed so I don't get distracted
Is WhatsApp decent without major bugs? I just need texting, no need for complicate things like videos or location. I've read it's pretty buggy yet
Thanks for sharing your experience!
antonio1475 said:
Thank you! You give me pretty much peace knowing I will be happy enough. If you like it, I'll love it
I know I won't be able to make mods and theme anything I want, but on one hand, all I themed has been to make it WP7, and on the other hand, I don't have time to mod or try mods anymore. Just need something stable and closed so I don't get distracted
Is WhatsApp decent without major bugs? I just need texting, no need for complicate things like videos or location. I've read it's pretty buggy yet
Thanks for sharing your experience!
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No problem! I admit to be an 'avid mod tester' myself That is why I'll still recommend android to my friends. But WP7 do have mods to try out as well, just that the process is complicated. :/ So I believe it will help in getting you focused on your schoolwork xD
Yeap, it hasn't crashed once on my phone. ( I've had it for a month). Sending/Receiving texts or pictures are quick. Just fyi, location services are pretty solid as well. Videos on the web might be a bit of a hassle since flash is not supported, but since HTML5 is going to be the new standard, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Main thing that bothers me, is getting use to the thickness of the phone. Since I've been pampered by the OB's slim chassis xD
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Black is a great affordable smartphone. I love it, but you all know I'm a WP7 lover. In fact, I bought my second Android (Black) because 1. I love Android, 2. It was at great price at that moment and 3. WP7 didn't have Whatsapp. Now it does.
Yeah, we must be on the best-devices-without-proper-development top of forums. We had knzo over all but he didn't even named himself developer if I remember well (his dedication/studies aren't informatics). It's a hobby for him, although he is great and the best we've had (@knzo, you know you are the best Black dev! )
I'm sorry I'm "leaving", but this forum has been being more dead every day, and anyway, I don't have time to mod anymore. You've seen I stopped theming and I said many times I need all my time to study now. I appreciate your words
I love the N9, but I know that if I go there, I will cry because of lack of development. WP7 isn't as expanded as Android, but at least there is a considerable community. Even HD7 has like 6 or 7 ROMs LOL! (no big changes, but anyway). And the Lumia 800 is new and apart from few bugs I've read (every phone does), I found the HD7 at great price and I don't like spending 500$ on an unlocked phone like Lumia. I can but I never liked :S
And remember, I started this thing yesterday in a opportunity to trade it for a HD2. So I'm doing this "buy first, then sell yours" thing because trading was too risky (parents said, and that's right). It's an independent kind of trading LOL and I finally decided for HD7 because HD2 would keep me testing Android, Meego, WP7,... and I would lose my study time. I guess I just need a working phone. The less it can be modded, the less time I will waste.
I'm not selling Black until I'm sure HD7 is the next step. This is what this method allows me. I don't need to sell the Black neither, but it would be pointless keeping 2 medium-high-high level smartphones that are losing value every day.
But thank you.
No idea. But if I can't install apk's from browser... what else should I be downloading at? LOL I guess I will be able to long-press a picture to save it :S Haha not the biggest problem.
It's said that WP7 keyboard is the best/one of the bests. Actually, you should see my Android keyboard, it's a WP7-modded I made (never published). I love it LOL. Here it is:
If you compare the picture with the real one, there are differences, although in Android I think this one looks better than any other ****ty WP7 keyboard I've ever seen for Android (IMHO)
I never liked any other Android 3rd party keyboards...
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could you send the keyboard to me cuz i really like it!
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could you send the keyboard to me cuz i really like it!
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I can't... it's a paid app so I can't share , it would be warez and it isn't allowed.
Sorry

Why Google Why

I know its forbidden as far as asking for ETAs, but does anyone have any insight or guesses when Google is going to release the new SDK and lift the restrictions? I mean are they totally redoing the SDK or are they just tweaking some stuff. Well better yet do we know if google is even going to go further with the chromecast, or abandon it basically like the Nexus Q. Just wondering peoples thoughts....hopefully someone can give us some kind of a hint.
Thanks
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I know its forbidden as far as asking for ETAs, but does anyone have any insight or guesses when Google is going to release the new SDK and lift the restrictions? I mean are they totally redoing the SDK or are they just tweaking some stuff. Well better yet do we know if google is even going to go further with the chromecast, or abandon it basically like the Nexus Q. Just wondering peoples thoughts....hopefully someone can give us some kind of a hint.
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I'm sure they'll release it when its done, why would you think they would abandon it? It just came out and is a huge success.
Getting a little scared that they'll never release it
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Getting a little scared that they'll never release it
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The thing just came out!
Not even everyone who ordered it yet has gotten it.
They have a preview SDK up and running lol.
No reason to freak out.
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Getting a little scared that they'll never release it
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Well I am a tad worried also I think about; reader, wave, nexus q, what does rhe chromecast mean for google tv? Google is a great company and has an abudance of irons in the fire; glass the autonamous car, etc...
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The thing just came out!
Not even everyone who ordered it yet has gotten it.
They have a preview SDK up and running lol.
No reason to freak out.
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Well I am a tad worried also I think about; reader, wave, nexus q, what does rhe chromecast mean for google tv? Google is a great company and has an abudance of irons in the fire; glass the autonamous car, etc...
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Reader's server costs didn't outweigh the money they made from ads.
wave still exists, just not worked on by google.
the other device in the list (nexus q) was canned before it was released. It only had a few more features than a chromecast but was $400. They canceled it because no one was going to buy it.
THis device has been a huge success and google could barley keep up with sales.
mine just came in the mail today and i ordered it on 7/25/13
I am also a tad disappointed....
4 weeks in and we have seen nothing as to new app's.
With these things selling like hotcakes and being sold out everywhere, I would have thought that we would have seen something by now.
If Netflix and Google tv/movies work, what could possibly be holding up the likes of Hulu/HBO/Showtime etc?
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I am also a tad disappointed....
4 weeks in and we have seen nothing as to new app's.
With these things selling like hotcakes and being sold out everywhere, I would have thought that we would have seen something by now.
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It's not really possible given only a preview sdk.
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It's not really possible given only a preview sdk.
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Understandable...
But one would assume that if they have Netflix up and running, they could partner and get other up and running...
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Understandable...
But one would assume that if they have Netflix up and running, they could partner and get other up and running...
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I think they knew Netflix had to work in order to sell it. By only having to deal with one partner, they can work with them to modify the SDK pretty easily. The whole thing seems to be a beta test at this point. Once they feel it is ready, they will push it out to everyone else.
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I think they knew Netflix had to work in order to sell it. By only having to deal with one partner, they can work with them to modify the SDK pretty easily. The whole thing seems to be a beta test at this point. Once they feel it is ready, they will push it out to everyone else.
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My body is ready
IamPro said:
Getting a little scared that they'll never release it
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The strategy may be to release it once more devices are in the pipeline. No need to anger those waiting to get theirs even more.
Does anyone have an estimate of how many they have sold?
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Does anyone have an estimate of how many they have sold?
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Leo LePorte on Twit reported that Amazon sold 700,000 of them. On the first day.
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Does anyone have an estimate of how many they have sold?
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no not in total but the fact that google had to cancel the netflix offer in just a few hours or so means they sold well. Google even said it was "due to overwhelming demand."
Also the fact that places were running out of stock so fast means demand was higher than supply and if you know anything about economics you know that means its doing very well. (well because its something mass produced and intent on selling, i guess that rule wouldn't nessessarly count for some rare item)
heck some guy told me he bought 3 and sold them on craglist or something like that for like $75 each I think and he kept the netflix codes.
I can't believe you guys are already freaking out google is going to abandoned it before the final sdk is out.
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Well I am a tad worried also I think about; reader, wave, nexus q, what does rhe chromecast mean for google tv? Google is a great company and has an abudance of irons in the fire; glass the autonamous car, etc...
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Uh-oh. Is there a chance that Google may cancel Android too? Better get an iPhone! [/Sarcasm]
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Uh-oh. Is there a chance that Google may cancel Android too? Better get an iPhone! [/Sarcasm]
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Heck I went ahead and started searching with bing just in case!
Honestly at this point even if google, amazon and samsung all stopped supporting and using android it wouldn't die.
Android is pretty much here to stay for the foreseeable future.
Well I bet they are mass producing them now...its a no brainer at $35 and also at the perfect price of being an "impulse buy" my god its better than a droid 1 phone minus the screen amoung a few other things.
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Post benchmark tests here.

I did a bench mark using antutu and when I was buying this phone I could have went with the One X. But I didn't and now I'm glad.not only do I get better battery life but checkout the bench mark test.!
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Post your benchmarks here, let's see if anyone can do better.
By the way I did that with the default CPU governer with no over clock.
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That's about what i got with overclock too...15,8xx
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That's about what i got with overclock too...15,8xx
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what did you overclock to?
Antutu gives a combined score. While our devices may score overall close to one x, nexus 4, and s3 it scores differently in categories. Basically htc first scores mediocre at cpu, ram and flash tests but makes up for it in graphics tests. Such comparison is inherently biased because it depends on how antutu weighs the separate tests. Bottom line is that you should not expect htc first to be better running anything that is not graphically intensive, meaning its not quite as good for everyday apps.
I do own a one x which I will be selling off soon. I like the ergonomics and form factor of the first much better and the lower performance does not bother me
Having diassembled htc first I do not recommend overclocking it. The board is very small (compared to others) and components are tightly packed so there is no adequate pcb surface area for heat dissipation. There is no heatsink and the plastic shell of the phone does not help dissipate heat. One mini will perhaps be better at that.
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Antutu gives a combined score. While our devices may score overall close to one x, nexus 4, and s3 it scores differently in categories. Basically htc first scores mediocre at cpu, ram and flash tests but makes up for it in graphics tests. Such comparison is inherently biased because it depends on how antutu weighs the separate tests. Bottom line is that you should not expect htc first to be better running anything that is not graphically intensive, meaning its not quite as good for everyday apps.
I do own a one x which I will be selling off soon. I like the ergonomics and form factor of the first much better and the lower performance does not bother me
Having diassembled htc first I do not recommend overclocking it. The board is very small (compared to others) and components are tightly packed so there is no adequate pcb surface area for heat dissipation. There is no heatsink and the plastic shell of the phone does not help dissipate heat. One mini will perhaps be better at that.
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Yes I noticed brief and almost unoticablr lag in my launcher. And yes I know how antutu works. But each phone has its strengths you know.
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16001 with unalterded cpu clock settings (; just a few minor tweaks
21203? That's a custom test I believe with them all selected?
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21203? That's a custom test I believe with them all selected?
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Damn, pretty impressive. Do you have a standalone power amp connected to the phone along with 4 more external cores attached inside a refrigerator?
abrahammmmmmm_ said:
Damn, pretty impressive. Do you have a standalone power amp connected to the phone along with 4 more external cores attached inside a refrigerator?
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hahaha i wish. at one point i wanted to do that, buy a proccessor and physicaly replace my phones proc to a new one haha
russian392 said:
hahaha i wish. at one point i wanted to do that, buy a proccessor and physicaly replace my phones proc to a new one haha
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I've actually tried doing something like that to some extent. When 2 years ago when I tried adding a Samsung galaxy s 2 camera to my $200 prepaid 800mhz phone without a GPU lol I figured since they both used the same adaptors and the camera was a standalone hardware component it'd be easy even though the camera one the s2 was bigger I could just make a cut out on my cheap phone. But as many phone's specs & performance it was allot better on paper
abrahammmmmmm_ said:
I've actually tried doing something like that to some extent. When 2 years ago when I tried adding a Samsung galaxy s 2 camera to my $200 prepaid 800mhz phone without a GPU lol I figured since they both used the same adaptors and the camera was a standalone hardware component it'd be easy even though the camera one the s2 was bigger I could just make a cut out on my cheap phone. But as many phone's specs & performance it was allot better on paper
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i think the most probable thing to do with a phone as far as hardware modding would be either ram or rom expansion? cause those are standalone chipsets and components. while cpu is like welded (saudered) onto a other chip
Here you go. First vs One!
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i think the most probable thing to do with a phone as far as hardware modding would be either ram or rom expansion? cause those are standalone chipsets and components. while cpu is like welded (saudered) onto a other chip
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No. Both RAM and onboard flash are soldered onto the board via BGA mounting on all current phones. Without a vacuum rig, a reflow oven and a bucketload of lucky paws you should just forget about it.
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No. Both RAM and onboard flash are soldered onto the board via BGA mounting on all current phones. Without a vacuum rig, a reflow oven and a bucketload of lucky paws you should just forget about it.
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Darn it. Why can't they make a smartphone at least "like" a PC. So that no matter what, you can install anything and change hardware. I think that's what that "block" phone or Lego phone did or what ever its called
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russian392 said:
Darn it. Why can't they make a smartphone at least "like" a PC. So that no matter what, you can install anything and change hardware. I think that's what that "block" phone or Lego phone did or what ever its called
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There are a couple concepts out right now in progress. The bigger one of the two is called Project Ara by Motorola. The other is called Phonebloks.
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There are a couple concepts out right now in progress. The bigger one of the two is called Project Ara by Motorola. The other is called Phonebloks.
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I know if project Ara but I feel as if we would have to say goodbye to developing if that suddenly took off
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There are a couple concepts out right now in progress. The bigger one of the two is called Project Ara by Motorola. The other is called Phonebloks.
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Yep, phone blocks thats what i meant. cool consept, but will be quite hard to actualy make effective, i mean to make a phone 1. be durable using that system would be hard, it could just fall apart. 2. the screen is ONE piece, meaning how is that a block? 3. The blocks will be quite thick i think there for my htc first would be like what 11mm thick minimum? and so on.
GREAT concept though, nothing against it. Personally the best concept out there at the moment is the Jolla Sailfish phone.
EDIT. just looked up project ara, the whole idea of a modular phone is Feasible, but it wouldn't actually work. Reason? well, remember when android came out, and then about at the point of android 2.2 foyo with the droid X, the whole "android" thing was counted as a big joke. although by us tech geeks who are actually interested in how technology works, advances and so on, its easy, the better choice is the Droid X. But for 90 percent of people it was still the iphone, and still is for a big chunk of the world. what has happened is that apple stopped making a big deal out of the whole "android copied us" thing. So now, androids are still NOT appealing to people who are NOT interested in any way in technology, therefore number one choice would be an iPhone. now for us tech geeks, its easy to go and move on to project ara or phone blocks, cause we like doing that, getting something cooler and better and so on. But now that people have finally figured out android and its versions and manufacturers and have "settled down", for them to acquire more knowledge about processors and ram and cameras and screens and ppi and so on, is too much work (um...no more like 10 minutes worth of research on Google) but people will be to lazy to actually take interest cause its "too complicated" like all my fellow iphone lovers say. Seriously have you ever talked to a hardcore apple fan who has never even SEEN an android like the htc one let alone touched it and used it? YOU CANT talk to them, they just wont listen. no imagine telling them about phone blocks! they will say...cool...and thats it, they will be to lazy and to arrogant to drop what they have now and move on.
so will it work? um, maybe. it would be like Microsoft holding a few percent of marketshare. and as for popularity...once people get into "using their own heads"...they will give up. so it will work practicaly, but in the real world...it wont work WELL
well, all i can say is hail progress, technology, and android :/
But we will be able to have fun trying to see who can get the best benchmark score! hahaha
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Yep, phone blocks thats what i meant. cool consept, but will be quite hard to actualy make effective, i mean to make a phone 1. be durable using that system would be hard, it could just fall apart. 2. the screen is ONE piece, meaning how is that a block? 3. The blocks will be quite thick i think there for my htc first would be like what 11mm thick minimum? and so on.
GREAT concept though, nothing against it. Personally the best concept out there at the moment is the Jolla Sailfish phone.
EDIT. just looked up project ara, the whole idea of a modular phone is Feasible, but it wouldn't actually work. Reason? well, remember when android came out, and then about at the point of android 2.2 foyo with the droid X, the whole "android" thing was counted as a big joke. although by us tech geeks who are actually interested in how technology works, advances and so on, its easy, the better choice is the Droid X. But for 90 percent of people it was still the iphone, and still is for a big chunk of the world. what has happened is that apple stopped making a big deal out of the whole "android copied us" thing. So now, androids are still NOT appealing to people who are NOT interested in any way in technology, therefore number one choice would be an iPhone. now for us tech geeks, its easy to go and move on to project ara or phone blocks, cause we like doing that, getting something cooler and better and so on. But now that people have finally figured out android and its versions and manufacturers and have "settled down", for them to acquire more knowledge about processors and ram and cameras and screens and ppi and so on, is too much work (um...no more like 10 minutes worth of research on Google) but people will be to lazy to actually take interest cause its "too complicated" like all my fellow iphone lovers say. Seriously have you ever talked to a hardcore apple fan who has never even SEEN an android like the htc one let alone touched it and used it? YOU CANT talk to them, they just wont listen. no imagine telling them about phone blocks! they will say...cool...and thats it, they will be to lazy and to arrogant to drop what they have now and move on.
so will it work? um, maybe. it would be like Microsoft holding a few percent of marketshare. and as for popularity...once people get into "using their own heads"...they will give up. so it will work practicaly, but in the real world...it wont work WELL
well, all i can say is hail progress, technology, and android :/
But we will be able to have fun trying to see who can get the best benchmark score! hahaha
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Quick point, Android currently has most of the market share. I believe it's 52%? While apple is at like 25?
Ara is closer to completion, though this is only the first version. Also remember Google owns Motorola lol.
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Quick point, Android currently has most of the market share. I believe it's 52%? While apple is at like 25?
Ara is closer to completion, though this is only the first version. Also remember Google owns Motorola lol.
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last time i check its 73%

So, I traded my Note 4...

For an iPhone 6 Plus...
Someone please..shoot me
bad mistake i went the other way you have gone to the dark side.
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For an iPhone 6 Plus...
Someone please..shoot me
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you will be back after your iphone goes all floppy and bends.
Ironically, the first app I tried to download on it was the XDA premium app...I just sat there for a second when it was nowhere to be found..
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Ironically, the first app I tried to download on it was the XDA premium app...I just sat there for a second when it was nowhere to be found..
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You should try downloading the #bendgate app.It will make your iPhone more fabulous.
As first, my deep condolences.
Second,what is purpose of this thread ?
iCrap does not belong here so consider to join some iCrap community.
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Ironically, the first app I tried to download on it was the XDA premium app...I just sat there for a second when it was nowhere to be found..
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That's coincidental, not irony.... But if Alanis Morissette got it wrong, you can't blame others for doing same.
Besides use Tapatalk instead. It actually works better on the iPhone 6+ than Note 4 (you see more content/posts on it).
I have both the 6+ & Note 4 (and a moto x 2014) and contrary to popular belief the two can co-exist very happily - both great phones. My app usage is near identical between them too.
Both have great screens and great battery life. And after 5 months use, neither my Note 4 has a gap gate issue or iPhone 6+ bend gate issue....
I don't understand why some in android or apple communities get so insecure about these things. Just enjoy whatever device you are using.
That being said I'm not sure why your post is entirely relevant here and will inevitably stir up a hornets nest.
I must admit I have thought about it while sitting here waiting for lollipop. Considered the Nexus 6 as well, but at the end of the day this Note can do things that none of the competition can. The pen mostly but the removable battery and sd card are also nice. 6+ would be ok if I got the 128gb version but here in New Zealand a 32gb Nexus 6 costs the same as a note 4 so it's a total no brainer, lollipop or not.
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For an iPhone 6 Plus...
Someone please..shoot me
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why? Just interested...
I actually had the same thought, because I admire the beauty of the iPhone. But after taking a look I realized that they wanted me to pay extra cash for the exchange which is ridiculous since they get a better phone from me then I get from them.. But I might trade phones, just to try out the 6+ someday..
Im waiting for "IPhone 17 plus +" until then I stick with Note series.
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I actually think it's not a bad idea at all. I've been with Andorid since the start and never had an Iphone, but there's tons of apps that have better support on iOS/apps that are not on Android at all. anyway..why not change once in awhile and try new things right? maybe i'll do it with my next phone
I made complete research, and just for change of taste, i went to buy an iphone 6+, got it booked here in Pakistan. but ended up buying a Note 4, and my first 2-3 days were of full depression because of battery drains but now its all fine. the only regret i have is the sound quality i was having with htc one m8 before, otherwise note4 is soooo awesome <3
After just one day with it, I quite content with it. Seems to be pretty solid...so far.
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Even that regular coffee for $4 is overpriced. You can get a refusal coffee at Starbucks for $2.50.
Sorry had to point that out. Lol
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The fact that you can't use NFC (no secure token such as yubikey) for anything other than ApplePay, or that you can't use openvpn or PGP on an iPhone makes it an unsuitable/undesirable device for me. I hate how you can only run software endorsed by Apple on a device you paid for.
mathieulh said:
The fact that you can't use NFC (no secure token such as yubikey) for anything other than ApplePay, or that you can't use openvpn or PGP on an iPhone makes it an unsuitable/undesirable device for me. I hate how you can only run software endorsed by Apple on a device you paid for.
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Agree but that's how they maintain the pubic perception that their platform is stable, secure and reliable. In reality it's no better that a high end Android these days, it's just that it's much easier for Android users to completely bork their phone by installing badly built apps.
Also iOS is easier to develop for, so long as you're compatible with the latest iOS you don't really need to worry about much else. Android is completely different. People could be running your app on anything from gingerbread to lollipop, have from a 1ghz single core cpu to a quad/octa core monster, 512mb to 3gb ram, 600x800 up to 1440x2560 screen res, etc etc.
In other words I couldn't give a **** for iOS, but the app ecosystem is kind of tempting.
nookcoloruser said:
That's coincidental, not irony.... But if Alanis Morissette got it wrong, you can't blame others for doing same.
Besides use Tapatalk instead. It actually works better on the iPhone 6+ than Note 4 (you see more content/posts on it).
I have both the 6+ & Note 4 (and a moto x 2014) and contrary to popular belief the two can co-exist very happily - both great phones. My app usage is near identical between them too.
Both have great screens and great battery life. And after 5 months use, neither my Note 4 has a gap gate issue or iPhone 6+ bend gate issue....
I don't understand why some in android or apple communities get so insecure about these things. Just enjoy whatever device you are using.
That being said I'm not sure why your post is entirely relevant here and will inevitably stir up a hornets nest.
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So much of this. I have both the devices too, along with a nexus 6 and i really don't understand the hate on both sides. Plus as others have already said the topic is irrelevant on this forum. There is such a thing as discretion of posting.
That said to the OP, iPhone 6 plus is a fine device. Enjoy the great apps, a great consistent camera and great battery life.
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That's coincidental, not irony.... But if Alanis Morissette got it wrong, you can't blame others for doing same.
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Can you elaborate on this? While your statement holds partial truth, it was also ironic that I tried to download a well-known android app on my iPhone. Never, EVER make me feel like I wasted money on an education again!

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