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Do you have to get a Mac for iPhone dev?

I have been a Windows developer for the WIndows phone for awhile, but would also love to try out iPhone app development. I don't want to get a Mac, I'd much rather stay in my Windows environment. Is there a legal and worthwhile solution for this?

From what i understand you need osx to dev for ios but they may be a work around that other than running osx in a virtual machine
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As the person above said, you need an osx to get the SDK working.

double system

There are ways to get OSX running on a PC. You could optimally dual boot with Windows. Search on hackintosh :beer:
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Actually, no you don't need a Mac. You can use Dragonfiresdk for iOS app development on Windows.

I only know XCode for the Mac
But here are Alternatives: http://traqqer.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Develop-iPhone-Apps-without-using-XCode

As XDA is for Androids and Windows Phone development, moved to Off-topic.

appcrazy78 said:
Actually, no you don't need a Mac. You can use Dragonfiresdk for iOS app development on Windows.
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This looks very interesting...can you publish to the app store with it?

coffeycrunch said:
This looks very interesting...can you publish to the app store with it?
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Yes you can, you do everything in Windows and they upload thru Xcode for you just as if you made it on a Mac.

Thanks for the help guys! Much appreciated.

XDA, ive got a challenge for you!

I've got an old Samsung Galaxy Mini S5570. It won't start, It goes into Download Mode, Not into CWM Recovery. I don't care about this Phone, and it's in crappy condition. But, It would be amazing to see if someone actually could install another OS on it. I only know a Three alternative Phone OS, which are iOS, Android and Firefox OS. (If you know another one, name it.)
I'm Shure iOS won't run on it, so we can count that one out. I don't want Android on it either, so count that one out too, Which leaves us down to FireFox OS.
So, Whos interested in making this thing work?
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I think you can't install another OS, but you can install custom Rom based on it, like iOS rom, windows 8 and others. If you don't want android os, you shouldn't have bought it in the first place

I bought it 2 summers ago, it was my first Android Phone.
I'm a Noob when it comes to ROMs, I usually like what it out-of-the-box.
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Just a complete guess, but I would think as long as the hardware supports whatever you're trying to run on it, it will accept any OS. Just like you can install Linux or Mac on an old windows computer, all you really should need is the framework. As far as I know hardware isn't necessarily specific to software. In theory it should be possible. :beer:
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Stryke_the_Orc said:
Just a complete guess, but I would think as long as the hardware supports whatever you're trying to run on it, it will accept any OS. Just like you can install Linux or Mac on an old windows computer, all you really should need is the framework. As far as I know hardware isn't necessarily specific to software. In theory it should be possible. :beer:
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You're right, but I was talking about his Galaxy Mini
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raensoe said:
You're right, but I was talking about his Galaxy Mini
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you're wrong, it is possible to boot ubuntu or windows on android phone, and it is also possible to boot firefox os, only no one did it yet

I agree the problem is how to start with it
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Johan_hallgren said:
I've got an old Samsung Galaxy Mini S5570. It won't start, It goes into Download Mode, Not into CWM Recovery. I don't care about this Phone, and it's in crappy condition. But, It would be amazing to see if someone actually could install another OS on it. I only know a Three alternative Phone OS, which are iOS, Android and Firefox OS. (If you know another one, name it.)
I'm sure iOS won't run on it, so we can count that one out. I don't want Android on it either, so count that one out too, Which leaves us down to FireFox OS.
So, Whos interested in making this thing work?
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Did you mean Gecko OS ? Wow, you don't want Android heh... why ? Android has better customization than both Firefox, and iOS.
If you don't want Android then why you run Android X86 on your PC, :sigh: people these days...

If you want to be involved in something...Here is the thread from galaxy gio...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827571
when it's ready you'll only have to port it

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Did you mean Gecko OS ? Wow, you don't want Android heh... why ? Android has better customization than both Firefox, and iOS.
If you don't want Android then why you run Android X86 on your PC, :sigh: people these days...
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1. I like android.
2. I want to try something new.
3. I run android x86 along with Ubuntu and Windows, so its not my only OS.
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yackovsky said:
you're wrong, it is possible to boot ubuntu or windows on android phone, and it is also possible to boot firefox os, only no one did it yet
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Oh I see
I just thought that we can't do it since mini is a low end device.
Didn't thought it was possible
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It is very possible to B2G in our Galaxy Mini. But I have no idea how to.
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jamesmuking5 said:
It is very possible to B2G in our Galaxy Mini. But I have no idea how to.
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Get idea!
- https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US...ites#Have_a_compatible_phone_or_use_emulators
- http://blog.techno-barje.fr/post/2012/10/27/firefox-os-bootstrap/

First i want to know if there are Any Other Phone OSes that are worth trying. I litterly don't give a single **** if theres "No apps" or if "Android is Waaaaaaay better".
Dont hestitate, name it.
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You could try bada
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Johan_hallgren said:
First i want to know if there are Any Other Phone OSes that are worth trying. I litterly don't give a single **** if theres "No apps" or if "Android is Waaaaaaay better".
Dont hestitate, name it.
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Try BRICKED OS ! It's better !

F4uzan said:
Try BRICKED OS ! It's better !
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I have it on my mothers iPad. It rocks.
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Johan_hallgren said:
I have it on my mothers iPad. It rocks.
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Haha you destroyed your iPad ? Great, i hate Apple with Steve Jobs bite mark on it.
Mini can run :
1. Debian
2. Ubuntu
3. Android
4. Windows 95
5. Windows 2000
6. Windows XP SP1 / SP2
Meaning of these color :
- Orchid : Can run without any simulated platform, overclock, and flashing things. That means it's was "firstly there, and always there"
- Dark Green : Need a simulated platform, but no need to overclock and flashing things. That means it's was "secondly there and maybe there"
- Light Green : Need a tougher simulated platform, need a overclock feature + kernel. That means it's was "maybe there, and sometime there"

So give him Java, symbian, bada and meego. Just joking
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Fedora F19 on Nexus 4!

Yep thats right try it here
Mako only for now
NOTE: have a network connection, preferably WiFi.. on first boot, it will try to install X11, gnome-desktop (!),

sound s really interesting thanks a lot for the info

What is this if you don't mind me asking?
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blankit said:
What is this if you don't mind me asking?
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Basically this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki.

Can you post some screenshots.?
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hubba
uh... well (from softpedia)
"Owners of unlocked Google Nexus 4 smartphones out there can now get a taste of a new Linux OS for their devices, as a Fedora 19 installer is now available for download for them.
The software enables them to easily install Fedora 19 for ARM on this Google phone, though it should be noted that this is not an official Fedora Linux project.
As phoronix notes, the installer comes from Rob Clark, who has been working on enriching the Freedreno Gallium3D graphics driver, and who used the Qualcomm A320 graphics in Nexus 4 for that.
The Fedora 19 installer that he wrote in the process is now available for download on GitHub as freedreno/nexus4-fedora, but might not receive support moving forth.
For enthusiasts, however, it might prove an interesting software to take for a spin on a Nexus 4, that’s for sure."
So, if you know Ubuntu touch preview - you know what this is
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Sounds quite interesting
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Screenshots?
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Anybody run it? install-rootfs not work for me

I'd love to hear some feedback on this before installing
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I'd love to hear some feedback on this before installing
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can't get read-write on device, have root and can mount rootfs as rw in explorer but can' get it in adb shell

This is really interesting. I'm a long term Fedora user, and I've just bought a Nexus 4 with the intent of installing cyanmod on it. But for various reasons I would like to run a full Linux distro.
So my first question is this: Is there a phone app and a sms app available for any Linux distro? The closest thing I could find is gnokii, but it isn't for on the phone its self (at least that is my understanding). Would I have to write the phone app myself?
My second question is: Does it run well? (I mean Fedora on the Nexus 4) Or do need to find that out myself?
Thank you,
Christopher
PS. I've been searching the internet all day to try and answer these questions.

Doesn't chroot/ loop device not work on 4.3?
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cjb_ said:
This is really interesting. I'm a long term Fedora user, and I've just bought a Nexus 4 with the intent of installing cyanmod on it. But for various reasons I would like to run a full Linux distro.
So my first question is this: Is there a phone app and a sms app available for any Linux distro? The closest thing I could find is gnokii, but it isn't for on the phone its self (at least that is my understanding). Would I have to write the phone app myself?
My second question is: Does it run well? (I mean Fedora on the Nexus 4) Or do need to find that out myself?
Thank you,
Christopher
PS. I've been searching the internet all day to try and answer these questions.
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From what I gather from reading the README on github. This is NOT a ROM (not even close). This is absolutely not something to use instead of cyanogenmod, stock android, etc. And although I don't know positively (have not googled), I would guess no, there is not a phone or sms app for a desktop that is going to work. Not to mention how many other key components needed to make this a working android substitute.
What it is, is a kernel (a Fedora based kernel instead of an Android kernel). And you don't even flash the kernel... you load it and run it temporarily through adb. And then the installer will download and run an x11 display server (instead of the android surface_flinger server), and a Gnome desktop and other parts of Fedora.
It's not something that's ready for use as a phone OS. Far from it. It is just the beginnings of a start (though mad props are in order).
If you've tried the latest Ubuntu touch preview... and seen all of what's NOT ready in that project... then understand that this Fedora project is not even close to that stage of development yet.

Hi,
has anyone tried it recently?
It did not boot for me and got stuck at the "Google" logo.
ADB was working, but without wifi it is useless.
Regards
user

Computer for development

OK gonna go buy a computer this week for learning development. Everything seems to be on windows 8 now..... How will that work with developing and basic android stuff? Just need to figure out what I should be getting.
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tember1214 said:
OK gonna go buy a computer this week for learning development. Everything seems to be on windows 8 now..... How will that work with developing and basic android stuff? Just need to figure out what I should be getting.
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avoid windows 8 of you can it has dual boot issues. I would try to find a win7 box and partition half of it to Linux that way you have all the tools and programs available to you.

tember1214 said:
OK gonna go buy a computer this week for learning development. Everything seems to be on windows 8 now..... How will that work with developing and basic android stuff? Just need to figure out what I should be getting.
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Windows 8 (or 7 or XP) -- not recommended for android development (at least if you want to get into building custom roms). About all you can do on any Windows OS is decompile the apks for smali editing, themeing, etc. Yeah, you can set up a Cygwin environment to compile, but you also need a really good PC to do that....4 core @ 3ghz and 8GB ram MINIMUM or it won't be worth doing....you'll be much better off doing it all on Linux.
Type, brand, and preinstalled OS don't matter. Android development needs a 64bit cpu (preferably dual core or better), 3GB ram+, a Linux OS based on Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04...I gotta recommend 12.04 since 10.04 is no longer supported (LTS for it ended in May), and a hard drive with 50+GB....my partition with nothing but android development on it is 320GB and I use every bit of it (currently has 30GB left). 50GB is just enough to install an OS with enough space to sync and compile 1 rom....You'll need about 20GB per rom and 20GB of space free on the drive before you start the compile.
Just make sure you get a PC that allows you to install another OS (some OEM Win8 PC's are bios locked to only install/boot Win8.....)

frog1982 said:
avoid windows 8 of you can it has dual boot issues. I would try to find a win7 box and partition half of it to Linux that way you have all the tools and programs available to you.
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What issues? I have 64 bit pro and Ubuntu 12.10 dual installed. Had to set up a boot chooser, but I don't have any problems
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Markyzz said:
What issues? I have 64 bit pro and Ubuntu 12.10 dual installed. Had to set up a boot chooser, but I don't have any problems
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Depending on your bios/motherboard you can't dual boot with Win8. Sucks, but that's how it is. Guess MS feels threatened by *nix and Boot Camp OSX

OK so one of these should be fine with booted with Ubuntu?
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I don't know about developing but with the second one you can copy Xbox 360 games xD
Also the first has a better processing speed. That might help.
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Ubuntu is a great OS alternative to windows which is constantly updated with great features.

Go with the first one. The processors better

tember1214 said:
OK so one of these should be fine with booted with Ubuntu?
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The first one, but you're really gonna want something faster...You're looking at 3\4+ hours compile time for a single rom. Quad Core @2.4 Takes 2~2.5 hours, Dual Core @2.4 Takes 3~5 Hours, both with 3GB ram.
Do you already have a PC? If so, for ~350 you can get a good motherboard and an 8 core amd....another bill for some ram and you'll be set for the next 10 years other than graphics. Using Brand New Prices. I don't know your budget is, but that's what I would do provided I had a decent budget to work with.

ubuntu touch/desktop or any other os for the phone?

does anyone know if there is a way to put ubuntu touch, ubuntu desktop, or another form of non-android os on this phone? (htc one m8 sprint)
I'm already rooted, unlocked and soff
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Youd have to experiment with that yourself. Ubuntu can be installed via Play store
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EVOuser94 said:
Youd have to experiment with that yourself. Ubuntu can be installed via Play store
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okay so my understanding is android is pretty much an arm distribution of linux with an emulated interface/virtual machine/ cute green
little robot mascot thing running riot all over it.
that said, i've used some cross-compile stuff before and it works well enough.
the file system IS there so theoretically we should be able to linux up even more under the hood
without losing the paint-job , right?
personally i didn't like ubuntu touch and the whole vnc thing is wildly annoying
maybe adroid is a little weak in ways it really shouldn't be but it does have a sweet usable interface meant for
these devices.
alternately you could find an officially labled arm-linux distro break out a scalpel and get to work.

Uhm, kind of.... You will have to have some sort of ROM running, unless you built it yourself... Ubuntu touch is available but its gonna have to be ported to this phone, cyanogenmod is about the closest thing you get to native Android. Sense is just a skin that HTC uses just as Touchwiz is a skin for Samsung. You can remove all Sense from the phone and run native Android, which is built off of Linux but not a part of Linux per say...
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Youd have to experiment with that yourself. Ubuntu can be installed via Play store
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I searched the play store and only found applets and info apps, cab you post me a link please
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
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hi
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Uhm, kind of.... You will have to have some sort of ROM running, unless you built it yourself... Ubuntu touch is available but its gonna have to be ported to this phone, cyanogenmod is about the closest thing you get to native Android. Sense is just a skin that HTC uses just as Touchwiz is a skin for Samsung. You can remove all Sense from the phone and run native Android, which is built off of Linux but not a part of Linux per say...
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elaborate on Uhm, kind of... I'd like to know what you see.
Where i'm at with the thought is at the kernel for starters, it is linux kernel right ?
meaning if you put a hat on a pig the pig is still a pig
and as far as the vnc trip i'vd pull stuff out of the experiments ann then messed with them
some things worked, some things with linker error, and of course permission denied
there's a barrier between android/linux but i think it's flimsy
i had one succes with cross compiling something one time from a tutorial
so my thought was if i get a handle on the dependencies for any small linux program
cross compile it for arm and get it to work then i'm not entirely off
yes, no maybe ?

In a sense Android works the same as a Ubuntu. It's just that Android has it's own build. It's like having a Kubuntu compared to Ubuntu compared to Windows.... Android has instead of .exe it has .apk and .jar it's basically a Java program with its own code built into it Smali... Yes it was compiled and built on a Linux but no one ever said that it was was running Linux through its blood. Yes with ARM you get more Linux capability, but it still lacks... You can change the boot of a pc from Windows to Ubuntu , but things May be broken.... Like I said you'd have to tinker with it all... There are limitations though you just gotta find them...
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