OK gonna go buy a computer this week for learning development. Everything seems to be on windows 8 now..... How will that work with developing and basic android stuff? Just need to figure out what I should be getting.
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tember1214 said:
OK gonna go buy a computer this week for learning development. Everything seems to be on windows 8 now..... How will that work with developing and basic android stuff? Just need to figure out what I should be getting.
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avoid windows 8 of you can it has dual boot issues. I would try to find a win7 box and partition half of it to Linux that way you have all the tools and programs available to you.
tember1214 said:
OK gonna go buy a computer this week for learning development. Everything seems to be on windows 8 now..... How will that work with developing and basic android stuff? Just need to figure out what I should be getting.
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Windows 8 (or 7 or XP) -- not recommended for android development (at least if you want to get into building custom roms). About all you can do on any Windows OS is decompile the apks for smali editing, themeing, etc. Yeah, you can set up a Cygwin environment to compile, but you also need a really good PC to do that....4 core @ 3ghz and 8GB ram MINIMUM or it won't be worth doing....you'll be much better off doing it all on Linux.
Type, brand, and preinstalled OS don't matter. Android development needs a 64bit cpu (preferably dual core or better), 3GB ram+, a Linux OS based on Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04...I gotta recommend 12.04 since 10.04 is no longer supported (LTS for it ended in May), and a hard drive with 50+GB....my partition with nothing but android development on it is 320GB and I use every bit of it (currently has 30GB left). 50GB is just enough to install an OS with enough space to sync and compile 1 rom....You'll need about 20GB per rom and 20GB of space free on the drive before you start the compile.
Just make sure you get a PC that allows you to install another OS (some OEM Win8 PC's are bios locked to only install/boot Win8.....)
frog1982 said:
avoid windows 8 of you can it has dual boot issues. I would try to find a win7 box and partition half of it to Linux that way you have all the tools and programs available to you.
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What issues? I have 64 bit pro and Ubuntu 12.10 dual installed. Had to set up a boot chooser, but I don't have any problems
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Markyzz said:
What issues? I have 64 bit pro and Ubuntu 12.10 dual installed. Had to set up a boot chooser, but I don't have any problems
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Depending on your bios/motherboard you can't dual boot with Win8. Sucks, but that's how it is. Guess MS feels threatened by *nix and Boot Camp OSX
OK so one of these should be fine with booted with Ubuntu?
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I don't know about developing but with the second one you can copy Xbox 360 games xD
Also the first has a better processing speed. That might help.
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Ubuntu is a great OS alternative to windows which is constantly updated with great features.
Go with the first one. The processors better
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OK so one of these should be fine with booted with Ubuntu?
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The first one, but you're really gonna want something faster...You're looking at 3\4+ hours compile time for a single rom. Quad Core @2.4 Takes 2~2.5 hours, Dual Core @2.4 Takes 3~5 Hours, both with 3GB ram.
Do you already have a PC? If so, for ~350 you can get a good motherboard and an 8 core amd....another bill for some ram and you'll be set for the next 10 years other than graphics. Using Brand New Prices. I don't know your budget is, but that's what I would do provided I had a decent budget to work with.
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Just wondering as im working on getting it up and running on my gt540 (going quite well)
u mean a terminal emulator?lol
Android has Linux underpinnings, so there you have it.
Everyone
no i mean like a debian install or ubuntu
Well my phone runs off a Linux kernel...
I tried it once on my HD2 for about 5 minutes then deleted it off my SD card and reflashed Android. Hadn't a clue how to use it.
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Yeah?
Android and WebOS are Linux distributions. Considering just about every piece of technology I own runs off Linux (with the exception of my Xbox, for now...), I don't think 2 phones are enough.
My N900 runs maemo which is debian based. It runs deb files and xterm is a core part of it. Plus root is quite familiar on it, the good old sudo command. (Sorry, I miss it. Still waiting for it back from Nokia repair).
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Hi,
We need to port windows 8 to Lg optimus x4 HD, someone working on that ???? Let's begin ???
Thanks
Alex
we have to wait for unlocked bootloader with JB, without that we won't do anything man.
and windows 8 phone is bullsh*t imo, it's better to port Ubuntu OS for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLtcj7FdIYA
damn the ubuntu os look damn good to me
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god damm leroy =] W8 ?? Should you buy an nokia ...
Who needs Windows if he can use Linux?
I don't cripple my phone. No way! :sly:
Yes my vote is for ubuntu. Win 8 is too boring.
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would we be able to run stream apps from Ubuntu mobile?
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The mobile version of ubuntu lags more than android before gingerbread, i dont see any reason to get it
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You can't even think to port Windows on there.... (and leave apart that it would be FUGLY).
WP8 is based on the NT kernel, the same kernel that Windows (the PC version) is using.. and it is totally closedsource.
The previous PocketPC/Windows Mobile/Windows Phone versions were using the Windows CE kernel that was shared-source.
No way. At all.
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we have to wait for unlocked bootloader with JB, without that we won't do anything man.
and windows 8 phone is bullsh*t imo, it's better to port Ubuntu OS for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLtcj7FdIYA
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Very cool and beautiful OS .. I love it so much
can we get the rom anywhere?
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Windows Surface runs on a tegra 3 so it might be possible? That would be a nice addition but I think we would be better off trying to get Ubuntu mobile on our O4Xs first!
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Windows Surface runs on a tegra 3 so it might be possible? That would be a nice addition but I think we would be better off trying to get Ubuntu mobile on our O4Xs first!
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You didnt read kholks post, did you?
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You didnt read kholks post, did you?
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There is nothing.
Factory cable
Maybe with the lg factory cable we can format, the problem is to program the phone to run like a computer bios...
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Guys look at this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2110181
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Maybe with the lg factory cable we can format, the problem is to program the phone to run like a computer bios...
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Perhaps you don't get that the kernel needs to initialize the board and that if you haven't got its source you can't implement your board-specific initialization.
I think Android I such a customizable system so if you want to have the style of windows 8 or ubuntu so get it! For some functions of other systems there are apps or roms which have or add these features (for example ubunto sidebar app) and yes I know that it's not the same like a whole mobile system but it's a little bit more windows or ubuntu for them who wants this
Hey guys, I have a macbook pro that I need to dual boot linux on. I've done most of the steps, I just need to find the linux distro I want. I love the easiness of ubuntu, but the Unity UI is horrendous. Is there a way to remove the Unity UI and replace it with something like GNOME? I love Luninux, but it doesn't seem to install on my computer. I get "Ubi-partman failed due to error code 141". I want a linux distro that competes in aesthetics with Ubuntu and Joli Cloud, but I need the functionality of a computer instead of a netbook. All suggestions are welcome... Thanks!
NOTE: I have looked all around XDA and the internet, but those are mostly the popular ones like Fedora and Ubuntu. I wouldn't mind Ubuntu if there's a way to change it from Unity.
Try mint. Got mint 14 with cinnamon desktop on my PC and loving it. Also try asking here.
OT COMPUTER THREAD
How to uninstall Unity
1. install gnome from the software center
2.login to gnome 3 (or 2)
3.sudo apt-get remove unity
4.profit!
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Try mint. Got mint 14 with cinnamon desktop on my PC and loving it. Also try asking here.
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I like mint and love cinammon desktop but it's so reminiscent of windows, I'm not as drawn to it as some other distros. Thank you for the link
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1. install gnome from the software center
2.login to gnome 3 (or 2)
3.sudo apt-get remove unity
4.profit!
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Yes! thank you
shadowskorch said:
I like mint and love cinammon desktop but it's so reminiscent of windows, I'm not as drawn to it as some other distros. Thank you for the link
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Well, it is reminiscent of windows, but IMO, it's different enough. Also cmason37's suggestion will do the trick.
I don't like mint cause it's just Ubuntu with Unity/Nautilus removed and cinnamon/mate installed. Both cinnamon and mate are in the repository so I can just install those and use mint wallpaper instead of changing distros.
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I don't like mint cause it's just Ubuntu with Unity/Nautilus removed and cinnamon/mate installed. Both cinnamon and mate are in the repository so I can just install those and use mint wallpaper instead of changing distros.
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I tried Ubuntu, but it didn't want to play nice with my comcast router. Had to hack some files to get a good Internet connection. Have had zero issues with mint.
Did you try updating? I remember when my wifi switched off and I had to connect to ethernet, edit kernel files (!), turn wifi on, then update. Now my wifi works fine.
I've been using elementary os Luna for a bit. You should check out out.
Hmmm, so I am also experiencing WiFi issues with Ubuntu (I'm running it off a disc before installing.) If I use Linux mint, could I take off cinnamon and replace it with GNOME the same way it would be done in Ubuntu? Sorry, I'm kind of a noob with Linux, but trying to gain some experience.
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Hmmm, so I am also experiencing WiFi issues with Ubuntu (I'm running it off a disc before installing.) If I use Linux mint, could I take off cinnamon and replace it with GNOME the same way it would be done in Ubuntu? Sorry, I'm kind of a noob with Linux, but trying to gain some experience.
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Yes, you are correct buddy.
Edit: Or install the version that comes with GNOME pre installed.
I have a 2008 MBP that Kubuntu runs flawless on. Run any live distro to check if your hardware works first, then install to disk. That's what I did.
You also might have to install drivers that are non-free (as in speech). You'll have that option once you've installed.
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I like Linux Mint. Everything works out of the box for me.
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Yep thats right try it here
Mako only for now
NOTE: have a network connection, preferably WiFi.. on first boot, it will try to install X11, gnome-desktop (!),
sound s really interesting thanks a lot for the info
What is this if you don't mind me asking?
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What is this if you don't mind me asking?
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Basically this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki.
Can you post some screenshots.?
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hubba
uh... well (from softpedia)
"Owners of unlocked Google Nexus 4 smartphones out there can now get a taste of a new Linux OS for their devices, as a Fedora 19 installer is now available for download for them.
The software enables them to easily install Fedora 19 for ARM on this Google phone, though it should be noted that this is not an official Fedora Linux project.
As phoronix notes, the installer comes from Rob Clark, who has been working on enriching the Freedreno Gallium3D graphics driver, and who used the Qualcomm A320 graphics in Nexus 4 for that.
The Fedora 19 installer that he wrote in the process is now available for download on GitHub as freedreno/nexus4-fedora, but might not receive support moving forth.
For enthusiasts, however, it might prove an interesting software to take for a spin on a Nexus 4, that’s for sure."
So, if you know Ubuntu touch preview - you know what this is
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Sounds quite interesting
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Screenshots?
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Anybody run it? install-rootfs not work for me
I'd love to hear some feedback on this before installing
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I'd love to hear some feedback on this before installing
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can't get read-write on device, have root and can mount rootfs as rw in explorer but can' get it in adb shell
This is really interesting. I'm a long term Fedora user, and I've just bought a Nexus 4 with the intent of installing cyanmod on it. But for various reasons I would like to run a full Linux distro.
So my first question is this: Is there a phone app and a sms app available for any Linux distro? The closest thing I could find is gnokii, but it isn't for on the phone its self (at least that is my understanding). Would I have to write the phone app myself?
My second question is: Does it run well? (I mean Fedora on the Nexus 4) Or do need to find that out myself?
Thank you,
Christopher
PS. I've been searching the internet all day to try and answer these questions.
Doesn't chroot/ loop device not work on 4.3?
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cjb_ said:
This is really interesting. I'm a long term Fedora user, and I've just bought a Nexus 4 with the intent of installing cyanmod on it. But for various reasons I would like to run a full Linux distro.
So my first question is this: Is there a phone app and a sms app available for any Linux distro? The closest thing I could find is gnokii, but it isn't for on the phone its self (at least that is my understanding). Would I have to write the phone app myself?
My second question is: Does it run well? (I mean Fedora on the Nexus 4) Or do need to find that out myself?
Thank you,
Christopher
PS. I've been searching the internet all day to try and answer these questions.
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From what I gather from reading the README on github. This is NOT a ROM (not even close). This is absolutely not something to use instead of cyanogenmod, stock android, etc. And although I don't know positively (have not googled), I would guess no, there is not a phone or sms app for a desktop that is going to work. Not to mention how many other key components needed to make this a working android substitute.
What it is, is a kernel (a Fedora based kernel instead of an Android kernel). And you don't even flash the kernel... you load it and run it temporarily through adb. And then the installer will download and run an x11 display server (instead of the android surface_flinger server), and a Gnome desktop and other parts of Fedora.
It's not something that's ready for use as a phone OS. Far from it. It is just the beginnings of a start (though mad props are in order).
If you've tried the latest Ubuntu touch preview... and seen all of what's NOT ready in that project... then understand that this Fedora project is not even close to that stage of development yet.
Hi,
has anyone tried it recently?
It did not boot for me and got stuck at the "Google" logo.
ADB was working, but without wifi it is useless.
Regards
user
does anyone know if there is a way to put ubuntu touch, ubuntu desktop, or another form of non-android os on this phone? (htc one m8 sprint)
I'm already rooted, unlocked and soff
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Youd have to experiment with that yourself. Ubuntu can be installed via Play store
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Youd have to experiment with that yourself. Ubuntu can be installed via Play store
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okay so my understanding is android is pretty much an arm distribution of linux with an emulated interface/virtual machine/ cute green
little robot mascot thing running riot all over it.
that said, i've used some cross-compile stuff before and it works well enough.
the file system IS there so theoretically we should be able to linux up even more under the hood
without losing the paint-job , right?
personally i didn't like ubuntu touch and the whole vnc thing is wildly annoying
maybe adroid is a little weak in ways it really shouldn't be but it does have a sweet usable interface meant for
these devices.
alternately you could find an officially labled arm-linux distro break out a scalpel and get to work.
Uhm, kind of.... You will have to have some sort of ROM running, unless you built it yourself... Ubuntu touch is available but its gonna have to be ported to this phone, cyanogenmod is about the closest thing you get to native Android. Sense is just a skin that HTC uses just as Touchwiz is a skin for Samsung. You can remove all Sense from the phone and run native Android, which is built off of Linux but not a part of Linux per say...
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Youd have to experiment with that yourself. Ubuntu can be installed via Play store
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I searched the play store and only found applets and info apps, cab you post me a link please
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
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hi
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Uhm, kind of.... You will have to have some sort of ROM running, unless you built it yourself... Ubuntu touch is available but its gonna have to be ported to this phone, cyanogenmod is about the closest thing you get to native Android. Sense is just a skin that HTC uses just as Touchwiz is a skin for Samsung. You can remove all Sense from the phone and run native Android, which is built off of Linux but not a part of Linux per say...
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elaborate on Uhm, kind of... I'd like to know what you see.
Where i'm at with the thought is at the kernel for starters, it is linux kernel right ?
meaning if you put a hat on a pig the pig is still a pig
and as far as the vnc trip i'vd pull stuff out of the experiments ann then messed with them
some things worked, some things with linker error, and of course permission denied
there's a barrier between android/linux but i think it's flimsy
i had one succes with cross compiling something one time from a tutorial
so my thought was if i get a handle on the dependencies for any small linux program
cross compile it for arm and get it to work then i'm not entirely off
yes, no maybe ?
In a sense Android works the same as a Ubuntu. It's just that Android has it's own build. It's like having a Kubuntu compared to Ubuntu compared to Windows.... Android has instead of .exe it has .apk and .jar it's basically a Java program with its own code built into it Smali... Yes it was compiled and built on a Linux but no one ever said that it was was running Linux through its blood. Yes with ARM you get more Linux capability, but it still lacks... You can change the boot of a pc from Windows to Ubuntu , but things May be broken.... Like I said you'd have to tinker with it all... There are limitations though you just gotta find them...
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