I have to be honest and say I am a bit baffled when I look at the 'Storage' breakdown on my Note. So I have a few questions as to how RAM and flash memory work together.
From looking at some threads on the forums here I understand of the 16GB of flash memory on my Note :
2GB is reserved for the ROM
2GB is reserved for apps, actually my phone says I have 1.97GB
The rest (11.06 GB) as general storage e.g. music, movies, documents, etc.
Wondering what happened to the other c1MB as I have only accounted for 15GB?
So in settings when I go to 'Storage' it is broken down into 2 sections, 'Device Memory' and 'USB Storage' now I find this screen a little bit confusing. So, is the 'USB Storage' the 11.06GB flash memory I have for general storage and the 'Device Memory' the 2GB (1.97GB) of flash memory for storing apps I download?
I find it strange that my phone says I have 1.97GB device memory (flash memory) total for apps, and my apps seem to be taking up 1.47GB but I only have 228MB available. That doesn't add up?? Even more confusing is the fact that when I try to download a 40MB app I am told 'Can't download to default location'!!
Also do I ever see what the 1GB of RAM is up to on my phone or is this managed secretly by Android?
Thanks for anyone willing to set me straight
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Ram can't be accesed by u that's what your device uses to store processes so u can't save files or anything on it but anyways assuming your on gingerbread to "see what your ram is up to" go into system settings/applications/running services this what u see is runnning processes stored on your ram
Your note then has system internal and external memory
System memory is where your rom and system apps are installed (platystore youtube etc) you can't access this unless your rooted
Internal memory is the memory u get with your phone where u can store pics movies files etc and install apps I don't own this device but i doubt that it allocates a section of internal memory for apps
Then there's USB or external storage which is your memory card or flash drive (yes u can do that) u can store apps (which have app2sd support unless your rooted then u can move everything) movies files whatevever you want
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Ferg8080 said:
I have to be honest and say I am a bit baffled when I look at the 'Storage' breakdown on my Note. So I have a few questions as to how RAM and flash memory work together.
From looking at some threads on the forums here I understand of the 16GB of flash memory on my Note :
2GB is reserved for the ROM
2GB is reserved for apps, actually my phone says I have 1.97GB
The rest (11.06 GB) as general storage e.g. music, movies, documents, etc.
Wondering what happened to the other c1MB as I have only accounted for 15GB?
So in settings when I go to 'Storage' it is broken down into 2 sections, 'Device Memory' and 'USB Storage' now I find this screen a little bit confusing. So, is the 'USB Storage' the 11.06GB flash memory I have for general storage and the 'Device Memory' the 2GB (1.97GB) of flash memory for storing apps I download?
I find it strange that my phone says I have 1.97GB device memory (flash memory) total for apps, and my apps seem to be taking up 1.47GB but I only have 228MB available. That doesn't add up?? Even more confusing is the fact that when I try to download a 40MB app I am told 'Can't download to default location'!!
Also do I ever see what the 1GB of RAM is up to on my phone or is this managed secretly by Android?
Thanks for anyone willing to set me straight
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you are a lil bit lucky than me.. my 1.97GB device memory is only used around 0.8GB but the available space is only around 200mb:crying:... and the droid started to give me storage space running out error...
Ram can't be accesed by u that's what your device............
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Yes I guessed that, but when I view RAM stats I get:
604MB used and 260MB free, yet I have 1GB RAM. Does anything add up memory wise on this phone?!
System memory is where your rom and system apps ...
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Again I guessed there was an area reserved for Rocket ROM and the associated system apps, I assume this is called the system partition. And I believe this is 2GB!?
Internal memory is the memory u get with your phone where u can store pics movies files etc and install apps I don't own this device but i doubt that it allocates a section of internal memory for apps
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I seem to have 'device memory' which is some kind of App partition of about 2GB but again its telling me I have over 200MB free but when I try to install another app I am told I have run out of space!?
I also seem to have USB storage which is referring to the remaining general storage partition which is about 11GB which I can't install apps to.
Thank you for trying to answer my query but I'm afraid I'm none the wiser. I though it would be easy to find a Wiki on the device which would explain how the 16GB is partitioned up and used like a memory map but I can't find anything. And the figures don't add up.
Isn't anyone else curious?
Anyone else ain't curious because they use the search tool
But since xda is all about helping eachother, here you go :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667886
All info you seek is in that thread
friedje said:
Anyone else ain't curious because they use the search tool
But since xda is all about helping eachother, here you go :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667886
All info you seek is in that thread
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Okay smart ass let me point out a few things....
I am a complete novice to Unix and how their filesystems are organised but I am trying.
Pointing me to a thread of partition tables with what I presume are hex values that I've never seen before is a bit too low level and confusing.
I am not asking for a programmers spec table for the Note memory just a simple breakdown of partitions, GB/MB sizing and what the purpose of the partition is?
And if you don't know enough to do that then don't bother posting because your not being helpful and your post has as much value as a troll
Actually my post was extremely helpful, and just saved you the bother to search for yourself. However 'mr. smart ass' assumed you had a bit of basic knowledge of the subject, which you just made clear isn't exactly the case.
So to try and tell it disney style :
Your phone has 1Gb of ram, used to run system and apps in realtime.
Android manages it and you can look at what is currently running and
if that makes you happy, even kill processes in taks manager.
Then your phone has flash memory, in general 16Gb, allthough 32Gb
devices exist.
Your Total 16Gb of memory actually has 12 partitions that each have
their proper reason of existence.
Number Size Name
1 21.0MB EFS: Holds device specific info like imei number
2 1311kB SBL1 : 1st bootloader, the devices uses this to boot
3 1311kB SBL2 : 2nd bootloader, see above
4 8389kB PARAM : Forgot what they put inside, guess you will have to read up.
5 8389kB KERNEL : Here goes your Hardware layer, drivers etc....
6 8389kB RECOVERY : here goes the little program to recover your phone when it's messed up
7 210MB CACHE : guess the name says it all
8 16.8MB MODEM : here goes the radio program for voice+data
9 893MB FACTORYFS : here go your android system files
10 2147MB DATAFS : here goes the data for your android system, like your apps
11 11.9GB fat32 UMS : your famous internal storage free to fill with disney movies
12 537MB HIDDEN : space reserved for samsung to put their bloatware
Hope the above is mashed enough to understand
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HI, first of all thank you for a great forum that i have visited a lot of times the last 5 years.
I have one major problem with my samsung galaxy note. I can't run gallery because then i get 'not enough memory, Delete some items'.
If I start camera and then click on one image gallery starts without any problems.
Storage on my note:
SD Card: Available 11,40 GB
USB storage: 0
System memory: 1,47 GB
Please tell me how to fix this. I have tried a few memory optimizer apps from the marked but nothing...
Regards
Noeinstein
After 2-3 days of experimenting and studying loads of internet posts I finally managed to solve this problem:
Your Gallery needs space on ur internal SD-Card to work, even if you store all ur videos and photos on the external SD-Card. And as you posted there is 0 kB Space on your USB-Storage and thats the point.
Go to Menu - Own Files and find the largest Files and Folders. Now you have to find out, which Files may be deleted. For example I deleted Game Folders that took up to 0.5 GB and also deleted some old BackUp Files of CWM.
Be careful with this deleting and watch out not to delete any system relevant files!
I did not deleted them but moved them to my external SD-Card so I could move them back if my Android would be messed up afterwards.
I hope this helped you and others!
as said it more than likely because you have no free space on your internal memory, free some up and im sure it will start working
Hi everyone,
I have issued the same problem newly on these days with my SGN. But on the contrary, when I look at my storage levels:
Storage Name: Used / Total
System storage: 0.92GB / 1.97GB
USB storage: 1.42GB/11.07GB
SD card: 8.00GB/14.89GB
I'm using Android version 4.1.2 with N7000XLSA Baseband and the device is rooted. I have deleted some files to free up more space in internal SD (which is denoted as sdcard0 in JB) but it seems that it didnt work out, because the problem continues. Am I doing smthg wrong or is there another solution or workaround for this?
Regards,
Same problem here
I have same problem. Almost same memory usage. I mean lots of megabytes exist on every unit (phone, phone sd, ex t sd)
But cannot open gallery, s note, etc with same "not enough memory" message.
N7000/4.0.4
Just clear cache from in gallery app from settings>application and reboot. Also you need some minimum space in your internal sd storage. Also do not install unnecessary apps. Try to uninstall the apps that you don't use. Some apps tend to use more ram & storage.
when i install apps and some apps need to install in device memory and phone go very slow , i have 16 gb integrated and 16gb sd but device memory is only 2gb very interesting, if have any solution please help.
Witch memory are you talkin about?
RAM, you cannot do anything unless removing bloatware.
Storage aera, you can try to move some apps to external sdcard or use the preload partition.
Anyway, phone slowing down is the sign of low RAM, so you should try to remove apps you are not using.
Search here in XDA for apps safe to remove like "social hub", "music hub" and so on.
Remember that you'll need a rooted device to do so.
lionelia said:
Witch memory are you talkin about?
RAM, you cannot do anything unless removing bloatware.
Storage aera, you can try to move some apps to external sdcard or use the preload partition.
Anyway, phone slowing down is the sign of low RAM, so you should try to remove apps you are not using.
Search here in XDA for apps safe to remove like "social hub", "music hub" and so on.
Remember that you'll need a rooted device to do so.
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Im talking about system storage it is very small , and i think this is a problem why phone work very slow , have any way to resize it or to merge with internal memoty 16gb or sd card 16.gb, now i use 4.1.2 jelly bean , i try some differ
ent rom but with all i face same ptoblem.
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Im talking about system storage it is very small , and i think this is a problem why phone work very slow , have any way to resize it or to merge with internal memoty 16gb or sd card 16.gb, now i use 4.1.2 jelly bean , i try some differ
ent rom but with all i face same ptoblem.
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You can repartition your Internal storage increasing "data" partition - to have more than 2GB for installing apps. Look in the forum. I've seen repartition info for 4GB,6GB etc. Just search in forum.
Hi everybody, I am currently trying to solve a problem with not having enough space for my applications on the N7000.
I consider myself a power user that uses many applications, and I do not really understand why a phone with 16GB internal storage and the possibility of an micro sd card, which I have allocates so little space to applications.
I have searched a lot on the internet and on this forum, and the only thing I could find was how to swap the internal memory with the micro sd card, which is not really what I would like to do. I trust more in the internal memory, and I prefer to have all my media (pictures, videos and documents on my micro sd card).
So the question is, can I increase the size of the data partition from 1.97GB to lets say 3 or even 4GB?
If yes, how could I do that?
Currently I am using 1.71 GB / 1.97 GB and I still get not enough space for applications when I am trying to update something like Facebook or any plus 20MB application.
Could anyone explain why this is happening?
I don't know any way to extend the internal data partition but in order to get more storage for apps I can recommend you the app Link2SD which uses a second partition on your external sd card. You can get it for free from play store and it's not really complicated. All you need to do is create that second partition on your sd card. I'd give it a try if I were you.
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note
This post explains how:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887864
You need at least noob knowledge of adb (ie copy-pasting commands).
The second command was
parted /dev/block/mmcblk0
rather than
parted /dev/block/mmcblock0
I've just done it on my Note.
giatros said:
This post explains how:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1887864
You need at least noob knowledge of adb (ie copy-pasting commands).
The second command was
parted /dev/block/mmcblk0
rather than
parted /dev/block/mmcblock0
I've just done it on my Note.
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Hi Please can you help me with repartitioning my samsung gal gtn7000 internal storage for me ?
Thanks
Hi,
I have the Note GT-N7000 with Android stock 4.1.2 and i'm not rooted.
I have a problem with my 1,97 GB partition which is full.
Does this method require root ?
I ever use root + Link2SD on anothers devices. Which methode do you recommend for the note to free up space ? Link2SD or this method ?
Are there others solutions ?
Thanks
I would go for rooting, repartitioning and installing a new kernal that supports trim and a new up to date ROM. I chose this method for my wifes N7000 as being able to TRIM the emmc chips has really brought it back to life, almost no lag normally, just like when it was new. I installed the latest NightOwl (it's really just Cyanogenmod but with extra bug fixes etc). First you need to repartition as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642299 though I followed a procedure (as I had already installed CM11 I had to go back to stock first) called "How to re-partition Galaxy Note and install Android 5.1.1", there is a link to it on one of the XDA threads I mention in this post and it is on the net (sorry can't find link now). Then I flashed NightOwl http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note/development/rom-t2938649 . This Kernal & ROM are patched so risk of bricking is not any(much) higher than normal I think (though you do this at your own risk). Also being able to choose smaller GApps package further reduced bloat for me.
The only drawback is if you use the Samsung apps a lot you will not be able to install then on new ROM as you need the Samsung framework, but there are altenative apps for all of them, though I guess if you need to import actual data into new apps that may not always be possible.
Just make sure you backup all your personal files, like whatsapp photos etc that are stored on internal SD (sdcard0) as this will be wiped. Also your IMEI settings (with an IMEI app), address books, calender etc
No need to worry about ROOT as you can easily turn it on and off in developer options, I only turn it on when I need to run an app that requires it, then turn off again for added security.
Thanks for your answer, i will check the repartition method you linked.
I am missing roughly 3 to 4GB of space on my internal storage. Long story short -- flashed cm11.0_golden.nova.20141127.ODIN_TWRP the first couple of tries it failed mainly due to me not knowing how to enter into recovery mode. After about 4 or 5 tries I figured it out and all was well. Then I notice a large chunk of my internal storage is missing. I enter recovery mode and format all internal storage. I gain a few hundred MB. I cannot see those missing GB of space at all. My best guess is that those first few unsuccessful attempts at flashing the rom are still there in the internal storage taking the space I am missing. Is there any way to repartition the internal storage? I have used all of the methods available to me with TWRP and have had no success in gaining that storage back. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I am missing roughly 3 to 4GB of space on my internal storage. Long story short -- flashed cm11.0_golden.nova.20141127.ODIN_TWRP the first couple of tries it failed mainly due to me not knowing how to enter into recovery mode. After about 4 or 5 tries I figured it out and all was well. Then I notice a large chunk of my internal storage is missing. I enter recovery mode and format all internal storage. I gain a few hundred MB. I cannot see those missing GB of space at all. My best guess is that those first few unsuccessful attempts at flashing the rom are still there in the internal storage taking the space I am missing. Is there any way to repartition the internal storage? I have used all of the methods available to me with TWRP and have had no success in gaining that storage back. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Guessing you have S3 mini soo i have same "issue" it's actually the phone itself takes around 3-4 GB i have usable 4.64 gb and i have 8GB model.
So is this just the normal amount of space taken up by the system? And yes mine is an 8GB model also.
Yes guys it's normal if you have 4GB.
4GB for system and 4GB for user
When i look at how much storage total it lists 4.72GB. For available space it shows 4.27GB. Will the 4GB taken up by the system not be shown? I just figured that it would list close to 8GB total with X amount taken by system. Im pretty sure this is how it was before I flashed the phone.
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When i look at how much storage total it lists 4.72GB. For available space it shows 4.27GB. Will the 4GB taken up by the system not be shown? I just figured that it would list close to 8GB total with X amount taken by system. Im pretty sure this is how it was before I flashed the phone.
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Could it be the missing 4GB is the partition of the system? I am using stock ROM also can only access about 4GB for saving files and apps. Maybe the CM11 itself using 4GB for OS process and pre-installed/bloatware apps? Just my guest.
You can try to reach the missing space using 3rd party apps such as XDA File Manager. BUT, I wont dare to do anything to the 'hidden files', as I know it could damage your system. That's why they made it invisible to normal/average user (like me). Unless you know what and which files to be played with.
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Naimlaaa said:
Could it be the missing 4GB is the partition of the system? I am using stock ROM also can only access about 4GB for saving files and apps. Maybe the CM11 itself using 4GB for OS process and pre-installed/bloatware apps? Just my guest.
You can try to reach the missing space using 3rd party apps such as XDA File Manager. BUT, I wont dare to do anything to the 'hidden files', as I know it could damage your system. That's why they made it invisible to normal/average user (like me). Unless you know what and which files to be played with.
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But, what's the actual space occupied by the system files? We could try to resize "system partition" to gain some gb on "data partition"?
fabiocaruso said:
But, what's the actual space occupied by the system files? We could try to resize "system partition" to gain some gb on "data partition"?
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I'm also interested in repartitioning it, I successfully made it for a Galaxy S2 and my Note N7000... I used a specific pit file flashed with Odin... is there any pit file for GT-I8190 8 Gb? Thanks in advance!
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But, what's the actual space occupied by the system files? We could try to resize "system partition" to gain some gb on "data partition"?
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Im not sure about CM11, but with Slimrom is about 1.23GB. You can see this using Titanium Backup in the overview.
gt-i8190n using SlimKat(Android-Andi) marinated F_Kernel(Fred8861)
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tomnic said:
I'm also interested in repartitioning it, I successfully made it for a Galaxy S2 and my Note N7000... I used a specific pit file flashed with Odin... is there any pit file for GT-I8190 8 Gb? Thanks in advance!
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Hi there. Can you tell me more about partition setting/tweaking. I think i've screwed some of it while playing with terminal command.
gt-i8190n using SlimKat(Android-Andi) marinated F_Kernel(Fred8861)
now i know i have asked this before but that was about 6 months ago. and maby now a solution has been found?
when i use link2sd it claims it has linked the apps. but if i check internal storage, 1gb free i link then 5gb worth of apps i then check the free space 1.2 gb free what gives? so i restart it maby it just hasent updated storage info no dice. so basicaly im sitting here STILL unable to install apps off the internal stoage. i have the sd card formatted to both portions primary ext3 and fat32. any better options?
no i dont want an answer "go buy a device that meets your storage needs" im not a rich-mofo im poor. i would assume that is why you buy these tablets and root them in the first place.
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now i know i have asked this before but that was about 6 months ago. and maby now a solution has been found?
when i use link2sd it claims it has linked the apps. but if i check internal storage, 1gb free i link then 5gb worth of apps i then check the free space 1.2 gb free what gives? so i restart it maby it just hasent updated storage info no dice. so basicaly im sitting here STILL unable to install apps off the internal stoage. i have the sd card formatted to both portions primary ext3 and fat32. any better options?
no i dont want an answer "go buy a device that meets your storage needs" im not a rich-mofo im poor. i would assume that is why you buy these tablets and root them in the first place.
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- last paragraph was unnecessary and certainly discourages a response
- assume ext3 was a typo; should be ext4 (although it probably doesn't matter)
- Link2SD does a pretty good job detailing what was moved to the SD card and what remains in internal storage
- the 'pro' version of Link2SD is needed to migrate data associated with an app
- the free version of Apps2SD (by Vicky Bonick) supports migrating app data
- Apps2SD and Link2SD are mostly compatible; you won't have to relink all your apps
- no "solution" is needed as there is not a fundamental problem with symbolic linking; just a little better understanding how the tools work
Nightmare-Rex420 said:
now i know i have asked this before but that was about 6 months ago. and maby now a solution has been found?
when i use link2sd it claims it has linked the apps. but if i check internal storage, 1gb free i link then 5gb worth of apps i then check the free space 1.2 gb free what gives? so i restart it maby it just hasent updated storage info no dice. so basicaly im sitting here STILL unable to install apps off the internal stoage. i have the sd card formatted to both portions primary ext3 and fat32. any better options?
no i dont want an answer "go buy a device that meets your storage needs" im not a rich-mofo im poor. i would assume that is why you buy these tablets and root them in the first place.
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same for me. I cant move apps with any app. only with the xposed module "OBB to SD" which also allows moving app data and obb
freaky2xd said:
same for me. I cant move apps with any app. only with the xposed module "OBB to SD" which also allows moving app data and obb
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The Xposed module works well for those who wish to go that direction. Not sure about side-effects and/or error recovery but haven't seen any negative reports.
Third party apps that leverage symbolic linking (Apps2SD, Link2SD, etc.) are fussy about SD card format which is likely where the trouble lies.