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Just bought it yesterday, posting from it now in fact. Absolutely love the screen and form factor, its perfect in that sense...however with touchwiz 3.2 it was just unusable. Went to overcome, didn't help still too slow.
I'm now on cm9 and its still just so damn slow. The browser isn't smooth at all, playing games like anomaly hd and shadow gun just aren't smooth and seem like they're running at 15 fps, and trying to play HD content just depresses me because it doesn't work.
So I feel like I'm stuck with an amazing tablet which is just useless.
Is the situation ever going to get better? Am I doing something wrong? Should I just sell the thing even though I only got it yesterday? I watched a million videos before I bought it so I knew what to expect but using it constantly is just a different story...
Thats tegra2.
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I would indeed seem that Tegra 2 is a broken CPU. Never seen a fully smooth tegra device, even a WVGA phone running ICS, its not a lack of power, its just poorly designed and isn't able to deliver its power. I wonder if it's a memory controller issue. The PS3 also has a broken GPU (also nVidia!), but because its a single closed system its been worked around.
You CAN improve things somewhat though. Games arent slow for me, or the browser, but the homescreen is bad. Overclocking helps (running at 1.4ghz here with no issues), change the CPU scaling threshold to 65% increase the sampling rate.
Different launchers improve things to, but none are 100% perfect. ADW EX has a silky smooth homescreen and app draw, but scrolling widgets are slow. Go launcher HD is slightly slower in the homescreen, but widgets are much better.
Part of the problem is Honeycomb which is slow, the ICS builds we have now arent perfect, but they aren't built from Samsung sources. Once we have real Sammy ROMs and Sources to work from things should improve.
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I would indeed seem that Tegra 2 is a broken CPU. Never seen a fully smooth tegra device, even a WVGA phone running ICS, its not a lack of power, its just poorly designed and isn't able to deliver its power. I wonder if it's a memory controller issue. The PS3 also has a broken GPU (also nVidia!), but because its a single closed system its been worked around.
You CAN improve things somewhat though. Games arent slow for me, or the browser, but the homescreen is bad. Overclocking helps (running at 1.4ghz here with no issues), change the CPU scaling threshold to 65% increase the sampling rate.
Different launchers improve things to, but none are 100% perfect. ADW EX has a silky smooth homescreen and app draw, but scrolling widgets are slow. Go launcher HD is slightly slower in the homescreen, but widgets are much better.
Part of the problem is Honeycomb which is slow, the ICS builds we have now arent perfect, but they aren't built from Samsung sources. Once we have real Sammy ROMs and Sources to work from things should improve.
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Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...
All hd games and content run fine for me. I'm on stock, not rooted. Using GO Launcher HD. Maybe I got lucky?
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Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...
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You are judging Alpha software (CM9) as if it were final as in Stable status. Things will improve even more when Samsung releases source. In my experience, this tablet has been smooth with ADW EX. Perfectly usable, no stuttering, almost no lag, speedy and long lasting battery. Hey and this is with unfinished software (ICS) due to lack of source! I even had a good experience with firmware LA3. Just ditch the TouchWiz launcher. It helps a lot. If you still want to leave the tablet, be my guest, your choice.
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You can use SetCPU to adjust the CPU thresholds. It basically changes load at which the CPU scales up its clock rate, makes it more responsive, but wont make it faster at its peak.
Also, remember to make sure the CPU Governor is set to Interactive and not On Demand.
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You are judging Alpha software (CM9) as if it were final as in Stable status. Things will improve even more when Samsung releases source. In my experience, this tablet has been smooth with ADW EX. Perfectly usable, no stuttering, almost no lag, speedy and long lasting battery. Hey and this is with unfinished software (ICS) due to lack of source! I even had a good experience with firmware LA3. Just ditch the TouchWiz launcher. It helps a lot. If you still want to leave the tablet, be my guest, your choice.
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Tbh I don't think this is a fair argument, the thing shipped with honeycomb finalized and even had an update, neither of which was alpha software and they both sucked and were completely unusable. The fact that I had to root and am currently using cm9 just so that I can use the thing reasonably is ridiculous...
I'm using cm9 and it is a lot better but I still find that games don't run smoothly, scrolling isn't smooth and there's a lot of lag
I do have it over locked to 1.4 and have governor set to interactive as well as I/O set to snoop. Its at least usable now but its so disappointing seeing such an amazing piece of hardware gone to waste. It kills the iPad on every level but the software just lets it down so badly....
We just need to wait, and hope for the best with ICS kernel. Tegra 2 ain't that bad, it's like every other Tegra 2 out there, it has its limitations, HD videos are one of them. Considering what my job is, i get a lot of Android tablets, but none of them were completely smooth, it's Android fault mostly.
The best i got so far was Transformer Prime, but that's Tegra 3, but the smoothest one of Tegra 2 ones was definitely Motorola Xoom. If Xoom can be that smooth with Honeycomb when i tested it, there is hope for this model yet. Software is the thing that needs fixing, so this model gets what it deserves. Even then, it won't be as smooth as iPad, and with every new Android version i am more and more sceptical that level of smoothness will ever be achieved.
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We just need to wait, and hope for the best with ICS kernel. Tegra 2 ain't that bad, it's like every other Tegra 2 out there, it has its limitations, HD videos are one of them. Considering what my job is, i get a lot of Android tablets, but none of them were completely smooth, it's Android fault mostly.
The best i got so far was Transformer Prime, but that's Tegra 3, but the smoothest one of Tegra 2 ones was definitely Motorola Xoom. If Xoom can be that smooth with Honeycomb when i tested it, there is hope for this model yet. Software is the thing that needs fixing, so this model gets what it deserves. Even then, it won't be as smooth as iPad, and with every new Android version i am more and more sceptical that level of smoothness will ever be achieved.
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I don't think iOS smoothness will ever be achieved, its definitely an android limitation.
As for HD movies I've tried dice player, mobo player vplayer and mx video player...only dice seems to give a decent framerate but still has a lot of slowdown. Some of the other players don't even play audio which is a bit weird, but that's probably my fault not messing about with the settings.
Any tips for sorting out the video? Or will tegra2 never be able to handle it? Because if that's the case this is definitely a waste of a very good screen and while it'll break my heart, will have to sell it...
EDIT: also is there any fix to get 3d gaming to run a bit faster? Will doing a system wipe, dalvik cache and cache partition wipe and reflash help you reckon?
Tegra can play HD, but its limited in what encoding methods it likes. Its certainly no match for Exynos, which will play pretty much anything. Samsung really messed up by not using their own brilliant processor in the Tab. Frankly the Exynos is better than the Tegra 3!
iOS is smooth, but slightly slow. It doesnt react as fast as Android, its animations are just more 'sedate', but as a result, buttery smooth. The problem with android is that in the rush to animate it can microstutter unless it has the CPUs total attention. My SGS2 with a custom ICS ROM and a few further tweaks is like lightening, totally smooth and faster to animate than iOS. I doubt a Tegra device will ever be able to do that, but it should do a lot better than it is now.
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Not sure what you mean by the scaling thing but I am overclocked to 1.4 atm using NoFrills...as for browsing depends on the browser and the website, with the stock some websites are okay, I'm using chrome at the moment to post this and its just so sluggish...
As for games, they literally look like they're running at 15fps, its ridiculous.
Very disappointed, really don't want to have to buy an iPad but I just don't see the point of having a product like this that's so brilliant in theory but so poorly executed with absolutely no polish...how can they even sell a product that's this slow...
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Don't use chrome it's slow.
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I don't think iOS smoothness will ever be achieved, its definitely an android limitation.
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You mean iOS is limited, that's why is smooth.
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Tegra can play HD, but its limited in what encoding methods it likes. Its certainly no match for Exynos, which will play pretty much anything. Samsung really messed up by not using their own brilliant processor in the Tab. Frankly the Exynos is better than the Tegra 3!
iOS is smooth, but slightly slow. It doesnt react as fast as Android, its animations are just more 'sedate', but as a result, buttery smooth. The problem with android is that in the rush to animate it can microstutter unless it has the CPUs total attention. My SGS2 with a custom ICS ROM and a few further tweaks is like lightening, totally smooth and faster to animate than iOS. I doubt a Tegra device will ever be able to do that, but it should do a lot better than it is now.
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Yeah I'm running westcrips resurrection ICS on my sgs2 and its incredible. Might have to hold out for a 7.7 instead, watching videos of it playing 1080p perfectly and its just upsetting me lol
If I can somehow tweak things so I can at least was 720p videos and play games smoothly I'll be happy. Its just that games aren't running smoothly at all, tried blood and glory, anomaly HD, shadow gun, fruit ninja thd, all very laggy as if they're running between 10-15fps, especially blood and glory.
Considering a wipe and reflash but doubt it will make a difference and really can't be bothered if it won't make a difference....
I guess I'm luck. I can play samurai vengeance no problem
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Doesn't seem particularly slow to me... I mean it's no iPad but it isn't as slow as most of the HTC devices I've used.
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I guess I'm luck. I can play samurai vengeance no problem
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Yeah that runs okay, but then go try something like shadowgun or anomaly HD, its rubbish.
Once I cleared all Samsung's live widgets from the home screens, I found the home screen transitions to be generally pretty smooth on mine.
Most HD video chugs in SloMo though. Its depressing and sad. Not sure if ICS will do much, if anything to improve that.
Hopefully, Samsung will refresh the ~9in form factor in the summer with some version of Exynos.
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Yeah that runs okay, but then go try something like shadowgun or anomaly HD, its rubbish.
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Shadowgun runs perfectly smooth for me... Better than on my iPhone even...
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Shadowgun runs perfectly smooth for me... Better than on my iPhone even...
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Yeah and my movies play well too. Idk I guess I got a super tab...
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The graphics are exceptional but the lag is so bad that it hinders my gameplay significantly.
I don't understand why this is happening. The game runs perfectly smooth on an ipod toucb 4th generation; sure I know that apple has a way of making their devices run apps smoothly. I also know that optimus 2x's tegra 2 gpu chipset isn't the most powerful but it's certainly not a low end GPU either. As a result coupled with a dual core processor surely it should play very smoothly, when a device like an ipod touch with its mere 1ghz can even execute it fine.
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The graphics are exceptional but the lag is so bad that it hinders my gameplay significantly.
I don't understand why this is happening. The game runs perfectly smooth on an ipod toucb 4th generation; sure I know that apple has a way of making their devices run apps smoothly. I also know that optimus 2x's tegra 2 gpu chipset isn't the most powerful but it's certainly not a low end GPU either. As a result coupled with a dual core processor surely it should play very smoothly, when a device like an ipod touch with its mere 1ghz can even execute it fine.
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Which android version/rom are you using?
ICS is known for using a lot of memory. So, there is a chance that the 512Mb of our device is not enough for using the android system + game.
If you're in ICS, I suggest you to downgrade to a rock solid CM7 GB rom. (temasek's unnoficial cm7 is just AWESOME).
I am really sad to say it, but i think our device is not capable of running ICS in a heavy use profile.
I think we need hwa driver to run those new games out there smoothly
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Which android version/rom are you using?
ICS is known for using a lot of memory. So, there is a chance that the 512Mb of our device is not enough for using the android system + game.
If you're in ICS, I suggest you to downgrade to a rock solid CM7 GB rom. (temasek's unnoficial cm7 is just AWESOME).
I am really sad to say it, but i think our device is not capable of running ICS in a heavy use profile.
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That's depressing, because i'm currently using temasek's unofficial cm7 ROM
On a side note, based on the Play Store reviews for Dark Knight Rises it looks like high end phones like the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus and even the galaxy S3 experience occasional lag. Therefore i'm not entirely giving up hope of being able to play this game...
Also you say that our device has too little RAM. Once again i'll refer to the ipod touch 4th gen. It only has 256 MB of RAM and a 1gHz processor, yet my friends have shown me how TDKR runs quite smoothly on their device. I'd like to know how this is possible.
I know about smartphones' inferior gaming quality compared to portable consoles like PSP which only have 64MB of RAM and a 222mHz processor, because PSP's are specifically designed for gaming and don't have other processes that interfere with their performance. I don't think the same analogy can apply to ipod touches and android phones, because ipods are essentially mobile devices without the texting and calling capabilities. So I REALLY can't see why our phones are incapable of playing this game.
Use ramhack to have some more RAM available, overclock your processor and use the highest OTF value for the GPU if you use the Etana Kernel. You could also kill all running processes before running the game. Just make sure to have enough RAM free for the game.
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Just saying, PSP has 333 MHz
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Blazing angel said:
Just saying, PSP has 333 MHz
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Well that's nice to know. Still frustrated about this game.
mybe is the rom problem instead of ICS laggy,
i had no issue while i m in ICS, but not with the game you mention
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mybe is the rom problem instead of ICS laggy,
i had no issue while i m in ICS, but not with the game you mention
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I'm sorry but I have no idea what you just said...are you suggesting that I use an ICS ROM?
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That's depressing, because i'm currently using temasek's unofficial cm7 ROM
On a side note, based on the Play Store reviews for Dark Knight Rises it looks like high end phones like the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus and even the galaxy S3 experience occasional lag. Therefore i'm not entirely giving up hope of being able to play this game...
Also you say that our device has too little RAM. Once again i'll refer to the ipod touch 4th gen. It only has 256 MB of RAM and a 1gHz processor, yet my friends have shown me how TDKR runs quite smoothly on their device. I'd like to know how this is possible.
I know about smartphones' inferior gaming quality compared to portable consoles like PSP which only have 64MB of RAM and a 222mHz processor, because PSP's are specifically designed for gaming and don't have other processes that interfere with their performance. I don't think the same analogy can apply to ipod touches and android phones, because ipods are essentially mobile devices without the texting and calling capabilities. So I REALLY can't see why our phones are incapable of playing this game.
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That it don't work good on the O2X can only be because of 3 things.
1. The developer have made the game primary for newer phones with more power.
2. The software on your phone don't make good use of the hardware.
3. Poorly written/bad code in the game-
That it runs fine on the PSP you seem to have a good understanding for. Good thing to mention about the PSP is that the resolution is really small compared to phones now days. But you miss the similarity to the iPod? Sure the iPod runs the "same" firmware as the iPhones. Only that when it's installed to the devices it leaves out all phone stuff(things thats ALWAYS on and use RAM).
This is also a common thing that it's nothing that people can deny. Most apps runs better on iOS then their counterpart on Android. Why? Because its easier to program for iOS. Not easier in the mean of writing the code but testing it and making sure that it runs on every or at least those devices you want. Without the need of posting a minimal requirement list like on PC's. Also goes for the PSP and every other game console, maybe I didn't need to mention that.
O yea for the record don't try ICS rom it will be a waste of time since it don't have any HW-acceleration.
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That it don't work good on the O2X can only be because of 3 things.
1. The developer have made the game primary for newer phones with more power.
2. The software on your phone don't make good use of the hardware.
3. Poorly written/bad code in the game-
That it runs fine on the PSP you seem to have a good understanding for. Good thing to mention about the PSP is that the resolution is really small compared to phones now days. But you miss the similarity to the iPod? Sure the iPod runs the "same" firmware as the iPhones. Only that when it's installed to the devices it leaves out all phone stuff(things thats ALWAYS on and use RAM).
This is also a common thing that it's nothing that people can deny. Most apps runs better on iOS then their counterpart on Android. Why? Because its easier to program for iOS. Not easier in the mean of writing the code but testing it and making sure that it runs on every or at least those devices you want. Without the need of posting a minimal requirement list like on PC's. Also goes for the PSP and every other game console, maybe I didn't need to mention that.
O yea for the record don't try ICS rom it will be a waste of time since it don't have any HW-acceleration.
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I see...so ipod touches don't multitask either. Well that actually makes perfect sense seeing as it's iOS.
And yeah I know about the lack of HW acceleration. LG has to release ICS officially so we can get the drivers...but the hopes of getting ICS on our phone are getting dimmer by the day especially with LG canada confirming no ICS for their phones -.-
*Edit: I'm going to be bold and deny the fact O2X is not powerful enough. I just saw 2 reviews in the newest reviews for TDKR on playstore, one using HTC One X and the other Nexus 7 both complaining about horrible constant lag. If some quad core devices experience this lag, then surely it must be the dev's problem?
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I see...so ipod touches don't multitask either. Well that actually makes perfect sense seeing as it's iOS.
And yeah I know about the lack of HW acceleration. LG has to release ICS officially so we can get the drivers...but the hopes of getting ICS on our phone are getting dimmer by the day especially with LG canada confirming no ICS for their phones -.-
*Edit: I'm going to be bold and deny the fact O2X is not powerful enough. I just saw 2 reviews in the newest reviews for TDKR on playstore, one using HTC One X and the other Nexus 7 both complaining about horrible constant lag. If some quad core devices experience this lag, then surely it must be the dev's problem?
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The 3D hardware acceleration is working perfectly fine on ics. So there shouldn't be a difference between ics and gb in games. Except some that are caused by less free memory in ics.
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I have CM9 Nova HD - ICS, along with Chainfire 3d with all the drivers. Still the laggy performance of TDKR.
Guess they have not made the game accordingly.
tonyp said:
The 3D hardware acceleration is working perfectly fine on ics. So there shouldn't be a difference between ics and gb in games. Except some that are caused by less free memory in ics.
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So... I've now given my HTC EVO 3D to my wife as a gift (not wrapped lol.. I just said she could have it so she has a nice phone)... and I've gone back to her old phone which is a Sony Vivaz. Now the only reason I got shot of the O2X in the first place was due to it lagging after even half a day, and the EVO 3D had 1GB of RAM and it doesn't lag at all. so.... basically.. now there is a stock LG ICS version (I assume there is looking at other threads?) has this resolved the lag? When I say lag, I mean it not even being able to play video's smoothly, and games nose diving in performance etc.
If this is the case... I'll probably be on the look-out for another O2X as I enjoyed having a nice bright screen and an HDMI port
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So... I've now given my HTC EVO 3D to my wife as a gift (not wrapped lol.. I just said she could have it so she has a nice phone)... and I've gone back to her old phone which is a Sony Vivaz. Now the only reason I got shot of the O2X in the first place was due to it lagging after even half a day, and the EVO 3D had 1GB of RAM and it doesn't lag at all. so.... basically.. now there is a stock LG ICS version (I assume there is looking at other threads?) has this resolved the lag? When I say lag, I mean it not even being able to play video's smoothly, and games nose diving in performance etc.
If this is the case... I'll probably be on the look-out for another O2X as I enjoyed having a nice bright screen and an HDMI port
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stock rom lags, but custom im sure is smooth and with no lags.
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stock rom lags, but custom im sure is smooth and with no lags.
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Prior to ICS the custom rom's/kernel's lagged badly as well.. like they were out of memory.... are you 100% they don't lag? i.e. you don't have to reset your phone daily just to watch a movie or play a 3D game?
well take into account that the device only has 348mb ram? So It's a bit memory hungry but ICS performance overall is quite nice
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stock rom lags, but custom im sure is smooth and with no lags.
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This is not true. Do you have direct experience? What rom do you use?
I'm using 30B stock LG in Italy and I must say that I finally can touch high smoothness and fast performance.
Never found this with custom roms.
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This is not true. Do you have direct experience? What rom do you use?
I'm using 30B stock LG in Italy and I must say that I finally can touch high smoothness and fast performance.
Never found this with custom roms.
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The stock fettled rom always worked best for me. I tried stock kernel and stefans kernel and some others but it didn't make any difference to the lag that happened after a random amount of time (within a day). The phone itself would be fine, just video and game performance sucked after a while. To be clear.. on a fresh restart/boot of the phone the performance was EXCELLENT... just it degraded after a relatively short time, and was the deciding factor for selling it. If this has been resolved with ICS I would REALLLLLY like to know.
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well take into account that the device only has 348mb ram? So It's a bit memory hungry but ICS performance overall is quite nice
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I did take that into account. I found the best experience was with the fettled stock italian rom last year before ICS was released, but the phone always suffered with slow down, even within an hour of turning it on if I did something intensive like play a game or watch a video. It took half a day to a day to slow down if not doing anything intensive. It was REALLLLLY aggravating.
I do realise it has limited memory, but given it wasn't running ICS it really should have performed better for longer as such. If Tegra 2 needed more memory to continue running that that's what it should have had. It's an amazing phone (for the money) otherwise I thought.
If people who use there phone for video playback and say... playing a tegra 2 game like dungeon defenders could come in and comment on if performance degrades to getting REALLY bad frame rates after a while, I would really appreciate it. If you can go for a month or something playing games and watching video's without an issue, I REALLY like to hear about it.
@Scougar,
I'm very sorry for you.
I bought 2x on oct 2011, not for playing games as first goal, I have been happy with 20S (removing some unused system apps) for many months and now I am with 30B.
Good luck.
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dont know how anyone can say that cm10 is smooth for example (havent tried stock ics yet tho), because its just so awfully slow for me, lags more than cm7, im sure its because of higher ram consumption. even with swap partition enabled. i mean it IS very smooth, when it works that is, but it quite often has these awful slowdowns for me when the phone just puts me on ignore mode lol
i mean its pathetic, cant even have 2 tabs open in chrome without having to reload the pages after switching tabs. movies and games work great tho, never had any issues, on any android version. best thing about this phone really.
Look i understand what you are saying but the weird thing is with the build from jan 2013+ the performance is just amazing..
And I never experienced a bsod nor a freeze nor a slowdown and not even a single fc i really don't knoa but some people have strange p990's or i just got myself a special one eheh.
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Really.cm10 is the smoothest exp. i ever had on our phone
Smoother then modded ics couse of fps and fluidity...ics and cm10 rock's on our phone,really no lag for days...
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@Scougar,
I'm very sorry for you.
I bought 2x on oct 2011, not for playing games as first goal, I have been happy with 20S (removing some unused system apps) for many months and now I am with 30B.
Good luck.
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lol, sorry for me? You shouldn't be, because I 'upgraded' to the EVO 3D, on an amazing sim-free deal for it, and it worked perfectly for me, without issue and had ICS for months before LG. I'm just considering coming back to the O2X as I really loved it apart from the lag. I would prefer to use a stock modded rom so that I get full functionality rather than fast performance and missing options.
I will keep my eyes open for one.. but they are pretty expensive for such an old phone (which is weird).
I am running CM10 on the new boot loader with custom kernel and its darn near perfect for me. Smooth as butter and battery life is as good as pure CM7 ROM.
Running on CM10 with ICS bootloader....It is very smooth & lag free for me
Link---http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058231
Agreed,Stock ICS lags very bad,installed CM10 and the phone is damn smooth!
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lol, sorry for me? You shouldn't be, because I 'upgraded' to the EVO 3D, on an amazing sim-free deal for it, and it worked perfectly for me, without issue and had ICS for months before LG. I'm just considering coming back to the O2X as I really loved it apart from the lag. I would prefer to use a stock modded rom so that I get full functionality rather than fast performance and missing options.
I will keep my eyes open for one.. but they are pretty expensive for such an old phone (which is weird).
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Try stock ICS 30B and you'll be satisfied.
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Running on CM10 with ICS bootloader....It is very smooth & lag free for me
Link---http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058231
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No lags with stock LG ICS 30B, very smooth full functons and stable.
Maybe in some months we'll have a stable CM10.1; CM7 took at least six months to be a stable version (missing of some functions).
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I was so happy to see that finally they released on Android....
but it doesn't run. I can start the app, I see the loading screen, then the EPIC movie. But when it should go to the '3d' rendering part (the beginning of the citadel), I get a black screen. I can hear the birds singing, but I don't see anything.
I tried uninstalling chainfire 3d, i tried uninstalling epic citadel 3 times. Nothing worked.
I rebooted, and tried all the 'normal' things. I am on stock 4.0.3 with root permission. Not knowing why it doesn't start bothers me much more than not starting it up.
Wrong forum - should be in Q&A.
Until now it's only a tech demo. Search all Forums, there are already a few threads related to the demo - maybe you'll find something helpful.
I just download it and will try the demo on my device. Will post here about the results.
Almost the same problem:
Anyone tried Epic Citadel (https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...pdGFkZWwiXQ..)?
I'm having a problem with stock 4.0.4. The benchmark starts and eventually - either right in the beginning or somewhere during the test the app kicks me on the HOME screen.
Has anyone tried the test? I assume that the problem is in the RAM as the program force close the launcher is completely reloaded.
Works on AOSPA, JB 4.2.1.
Works on stock GB LC1. Install, start, tap, run.
Phantastic Graphics, wow, just running the benchmark mode.
Results: 28.3 FPS (second run 28.8)
Resolution: 1280x800
Performance Level: High Quality
Update: and it's getting hot (at least very warm).
working for me on cm10.1 but very low fps the maximum fps reached is 26..
Ps: these bechmarks are on a underclocked voltage and cpu.. when i clocked the cpu to 1400 mhz at default voltage i got average fps of 34.1 at high quality
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abhinav quietly brilliant said:
working for me on cm10.1 but very low fps the maximum fps reached is 26..
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Please make the benchmark. Here we can see the difference between Samsung JB (with butter) and CM (without, I remember entropy's remarks about the limits and Samsung's policy).
ThaiDai said:
Please make the benchmark. Here we can see the difference between Samsung JB (with butter) and CM (without, I remember entropy's remarks about the limits and Samsung's policy).
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Cant try on JB, i'm still on ICS but here's what i get:
Working on Stock 4.0.4 LRI + Hydracode v7 (standard kernel).
In High Quality (1280 x 800 ) : Average FPS 28.7
In High Performance (1280 x 800 ) : Average FPS 32.5
R: Epic Citadel not running
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Please make the benchmark. Here we can see the difference between Samsung JB (with butter) and CM (without, I remember entropy's remarks about the limits and Samsung's policy).
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Hi ThaiDai, could you explain me more what you're just said? I'm interested. Is there a topic to read about that?
Btw I got 29.3 at first run, on chipwizz tablet rom2 with philz kernel
(high quality)
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R: Epic Citadel not running
On stock ics 4.0.3 brand 3 run at 32 fps in max resolution and performance.
Stunning graphics but maybe isn't good optimized for exynos processor.
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ThaiDai said:
Works on stock GB LC1.
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Are you still on GB? I think that I will go back too. Everything was worked very well on GB.
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zviki said:
Are you still on GB? I think that I will go back too. Everything was worked very well on GB.
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Two reasons:
- All apps I need are running without problem, GB is stable, only miss the new launchers a bit.
- I switch to the XXLSA leak for OTA update tests and restoring my GB backup with closed eyes now.
And with this demo here: It's fast, faster than every CM, AOSP, AOKP Rom, comparable to ICS
Only waiting for the next JB release. I will switch then if no new disappointment happens.
After trying many Roms...i decided moving back to 4.0.3
Now my phone works well ,Super fast ,and very very Smooth. It seems that JB "4.1.2" is making Lg 4x HD very slow... cyanogenmod too...
Im running ics "4.0.3 v10B"
I was thinking 4.1.2 will be better
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and why should we care?
theofficialpimp said:
and why should we care?
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Don't be so rude, he's just reporting. I admit that he should have tell us a bit more about the different performances but this is a forum ! He is reporting something so that users who are in the same case could do as he did.
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im sorry for being rude
I had a few phones with Android.
I saw that the pre-installed system is almost always better than update.
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sQuAshPL said:
I had a few phones with Android.
I saw that the pre-installed system is almost always better than update.
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that's because they had all the time they have to develop a better ROM before the official launch. But once after launch whiners and babies will cry for updates so they had to rush a bit more, which sacrificed optimisation time.
Good ROM takes time. If CyanogenMod didn't have nightlies or RC - just stable releases, god it could be ages before anything from them sees light.
Life'sGood said:
that's because they had all the time they have to develop a better ROM before the official launch. But once after launch whiners and babies will cry for updates so they had to rush a bit more, which sacrificed optimisation time.
Good ROM takes time. If CyanogenMod didn't have nightlies or RC - just stable releases, god it could be ages before anything from them sees light.
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Maybe LG is working on.4.2.2 yet and want a perfect 4.2.2 so they dont.tell anything and working very long ... and it takes time
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GalaxyVolvoZ said:
Maybe LG is working on.4.2.2 yet and want a perfect 4.2.2 so they dont.tell anything and working very long ... and it takes time
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You're dreaming dude IMO we won't get official 4.2.2 nor 4.3
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Mm, probably not, but why is it shocking to you all that 4.0.3 is faster? :s The lower the android version, the less resources it needs because it has less features, less processes, looks worse, lower demand for high quality rendering etc etc.
Think about it, would running 4.3 be as fast as running 2.3.x on it?
In my eyes, the lower the android version, the "Faster" it will appear.. Also, post some benchmarks of v10, and we can compare them to a benchmark of 4.3?
Edit1:"Optimizations" You mean they add placebo to the stock rom? fact is, CM9 will be faster then V10, and CM10 will be faster then V20. Say they release V30 as 4.2.2, you can bet your ass CM10.1 would be faster, v40 as 4.3, CM10.2 would be faster. v50 as 4.4 say, CM11? Would probably be faster than it.
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Mm, probably not, but why is it shocking to you all that 4.0.3 is faster? :s The lower the android version, the less resources it needs because it has less features, less processes, looks worse, lower demand for high quality rendering etc etc.
Think about it, would running 4.3 be as fast as running 2.3.x on it?
In my eyes, the lower the android version, the "Faster" it will appear.. Also, post some benchmarks of v10, and we can compare them to a benchmark of 4.3?
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No higher Android better Performence. Because it has more features, and can handle the Hardware better. For Example I mean Android 1 Beta dont support Dual Core Processor. Because the Rom doesnt detect it. And Android 4.3 can handle Bluetooth 4.0 and can handle the Ram and Processes better. Like compare windows 2000 with Windows 7 64 Bit.
If the Hardware Requirements is ok, we can have the full Power of it with good Android Version.
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GalaxyVolvoZ said:
No higher Android better Performence. Because it has more features, and can handle the Hardware better. For Example I mean Android 1 Beta dont support Dual Core Processor. Because the Rom doesnt detect it. And Android 4.3 can handle Bluetooth 4.0 and can handle the Ram and Processes better. Like compare windows 2000 with Windows 7 64 Bit.
If the Hardware Requirements is ok, we can have the full Power of it with good Android Version
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W.T.F. :banghead:
Did you really just try arguing that?
For me the stock rom 4.0.3 was fast but had alot of lag issues when installing apps, closing apps etc.. Now on stable cm 10.1 i got no issues at all and my battery life doubled.
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W.T.F. :banghead:
Did you really just try arguing that?
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There is some truth when it comes to 4.3. For me cm10.2 is like lightning even compared to v10a. v10a ICS was pretty fast, but not as good as this. Its the best rom from LG with no tinkering though
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Well try to use CM 10.1.3 latest with iodak v7.. U feel much difference!!! Its much battery friendly and Smooth
I moved back too, but to "official" 4.1.2 not 4.0.3. im using Jellyfish HD 1.3 (with iodak kernel) and its great. Finally MHL works, camera is awesome, video recording is smooth not like on cm. everything is smooth and battery life is much much better. I don't need to worry anymore if something will not work (like on 4.2 customs)
oh and games are more laggy, thats only one disadvantage
Sorry but we need to differentiate between pure android and OEM modified android. There is no possible way pure ICS is smoother/faster than later pure android versions. Resource management has only improved in newer versions of android. Hence low end devices always experience a performance improvement from newer aosp based Roms, from their latest stock firmware. Its common that OEMS introduce poor code, bugs etc that may take from the user experence in newer versions of their firmware, this is possibly the case of our device. Although there is a very minimal difference between stock 4.1 android and custom ROM/ kernels in terms of battery vs performance(other devices I own, the difference is night and day.). Which indicates lg done a great job of android 4.1 on our device.
JoinTheRealms said:
Sorry but we need to differentiate between pure android and OEM modified android. There is no possible way pure ICS is smoother/faster than later pure android versions. Resource management has only improved in newer versions of android. Hence low end devices always experience a performance improvement from newer aosp based Roms, from their latest stock firmware. Its common that OEMS introduce poor code, bugs etc that may take from the user experence in newer versions of their firmware, this is possibly the case of our device. Although there is a very minimal difference between stock 4.1 android and custom ROM/ kernels in terms of battery vs performance(other devices I own, the difference is night and day.). Which indicates lg done a great job of android 4.1 on our device.
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That's total rubbish. I've seen nexus 7 users get worse and worse lag as they upgrade. That's pure android straight from Google! Nexus 4 users too. 4.3 Does have optimizations, and good ones at that. Its bloody fast no ****. But I've never seen a direct correlation between higher android version and smoother performance. Never. And I've had too many phones due to breakages. I knew a guy who swore by froyo when cm10 was available, because it was bloat free and smooth. Just because new bloat isn't directly visible doesn't mean it isn't there.
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That's total rubbish. I've seen nexus 7 users get worse and worse lag as they upgrade. That's pure android straight from Google! Nexus 4 users too. 4.3 Does have optimizations, and good ones at that. Its bloody fast no ****. But I've never seen a direct correlation between higher android version and smoother performance. Never. And I've had too many phones due to breakages. I knew a guy who swore by froyo when cm10 was available, because it was bloat free and smooth. Just because new bloat isn't directly visible doesn't mean it isn't there.
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Do you seriously think google push crazy amounts of money into making a worse os than they had? I agree, and said in my previous post that updates occationally brake things, Its understandable for the android ecosystem(im not saying its accepable, i pisses me of and ive experenced it myself.)
Each update is a net good for android, btw google isnt bloating android, oems are responsiable for that, and oftern ruin what would have been a good update for a device. ICS on this device was better for gaming, but it distroyed battery , JB fixed that found a better balance.
I know people who still cling to windows xp, some day they will have to reliese, underling windows 8 is a much improved os.(no matter how much they or I disagree with the interface)
timon12 said:
I moved back too, but to "official" 4.1.2 not 4.0.3. im using Jellyfish HD 1.3 (with iodak kernel) and its great. Finally MHL works, camera is awesome, video recording is smooth not like on cm. everything is smooth and battery life is much much better. I don't need to worry anymore if something will not work (like on 4.2 customs)
oh and games are more laggy, thats only one disadvantage
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Please can you link me to Jellyfish ?
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Please can you link me to Jellyfish ?
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http://dlbase.seo-fuerst.de/?dir=LG-Forum/LG-P880/Jellyfish HD/Jellyfish Versionen/v1.3/