I bought an used Optimus Speed 2X for a very good price in very good shape. Intention was to give it to my daughter, which I did, after upgrading to stock 4.04 using LG own utility. I got surprised, as while doing some testing with Antutu I got reported that 1) CPU is running @ 1.2 Ghz while I thought it was 1Ghz from read specs in several sites including LG's and 2) it surpasses my Galaxy Nexus score at same speed (while I normally use it OC @1.420 and it's faster with kernel tweeks)
Anyone knows if LG while upgrading to 4.04 "allows" that 1.2Ghz CPU speed or if eventually this phone is a last generation one with more CPU speed?
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joliv said:
I bought an used Optimus Speed 2X for a very good price in very good shape. Intention was to give it to my daughter, which I did, after upgrading to stock 4.04 using LG own utility. I got surprised, as while doing some testing with Antutu I got reported that 1) CPU is running @ 1.2 Ghz while I thought it was 1Ghz from read specs in several sites including LG's and 2) it surpasses my Galaxy Nexus score at same speed (while I normally use it OC @1.420 and it's faster with kernel tweeks)
Anyone knows if LG while upgrading to 4.04 "allows" that 1.2Ghz CPU speed or if eventually this phone is a last generation one with more CPU speed?
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Yeah they had speed up the cpu for ics to 1.2ghz they also have a swap partion and a new boot loader.
although antutu would report the cpu at 1.2 when it was only 1.0 in early cm10.
I think the cutom roms for ics default to 1.0
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I'm just surprised when running cm7 on my nexus one. It felt snappy. But when I put in quadrant, it actually came out in 3rd place when running 998 Max and 245 min. So I overclocked both to 1113 mhz, and the score wasnt impresive either: 1424...which is only a tad bit better than n1 on 2.2. Now does this have to do with the app itself or the device?
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FWIW, on my Nexus S, my score (and overall 3d performance) went down considerably between 2.3.2 and 2.3.3 ROMs (e.g. CyanogenMod 7 RC1 and RC2). I used to get ~4000 in Quadrant at 1.4 GHz, whereas now I only get around 3300. The part most telling for me was that in the first 3D test, I used to be locked at 65 fps for the majority of the test. Now I get around 2/3 that. Similarly Smartbench 2010 and 2011 show major declines as well. Not quite as pronounced, but noticeable nonetheless. My previous recorded score was 1635/3669 at 1.4 GHz, and now I get 1551/3251.
On the Nexus S, I know that this decrease in performance is due to the different framebuffer driver in 2.3.3, which now supposedly calibrates the screen to not be as over-saturated and raises the gamma to 2.2 from 1.8. I don't know if this is applicable to the Nexus One.
There is definitely a decrease because I used to have up to 1800 in quadrant when running at 1.113 ghz. But the weird thing is the phone still felt really snappy when I set it to 998 mhz. In contrast, I experienced random lags on cm6 at 1032 mhz. Weird!
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I am wondering if the LG OB hardware specs will be enough to have a fluid experience running ICS. Given that this device has only 512MB of RAM and a single core 1GHz CPU, do you guys think we could have an overall good experience running ICS (e.g. no lagging)? CPU IMO seems to be the least of the concerns, but what about the RAM capacity? I've read somewhere sometime ago that Google stated that any GB capable device, would run ICS with no issues, but I've also read in a forum that 512MB is the minimum required to run it so we might be on the edge. What do you guys think?
Important: This is not a thread to discuss whether or not LG will be pushing out the ICS update or when so let's try to be focused on the topic.
I am certain the Optimus Black has adequate hardware capabilities to handle ICS.
Apart from CPU and Ram, GPU is the next criteria for ICS which demand 2D acceleration to be handle by the GPU.
It is just up to LG / Cyanogenmod community to bring it to life.
it can handle...otherwise it wouldnt get the official update!
Keep one thing in mind that :
"Any device that can run Gingerbread can also run ICS" (according to google).
Its not possible when we have useless TouchWiz like Samsung bcoz it takes alot of RAM
I actually sold my Galaxy Tab when I heard that Samsung will not be releasing ICS for Galaxy S or Tab while it was only 9 months old !
So its useless to have a device that has no future support from manufacturer.
Millions of units of Galaxy Tab & Galaxy S were sold worldwide & Samsung embarrassed millions of user by just making excuses
Plus if mid-range Sony Ericsson phones can run ICS (via official update) then why now Optimus Black?
Come on guys it has 1GHz CPU.
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Come on guys it has 1GHz CPU.
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Well technically the Black doesn't have 1 Ghz processor, it's just factory overclocked to reach that.
As for ICS, I wouldn't expect the official update to be out until 2013
I think the OB can handle ICS very well.
If the GT540 (my old phone) is able to run ICS (still BETA but it works) then
i see no difficulty in running ICS on the OB.
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I think the OB can handle ICS very well.
If the GT540 (my old phone) is able to run ICS (still BETA but it works) then
i see no difficulty in running ICS on the OB.
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OB is certainly able to handle ICS since Nexus S is able to use 4.0 with the same specification to OB. (1GHz CPU, 512MB Ram, but more powerful GPU SGX540)
yes, Galaxy S has some full working ICS ports, also on Galaxy SL i9003, which has the same hardware as our OB, there are some devs working on ICS
Theoretically yes. But will there be a stable and usable ics rom is another question. I am pretty sure before that I would be with another newer phone already. Now let's enjoy gingerbread first.
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ICS needs 1ghz cpu & 512 mb gpu. the black has both. i don't know what will happen with the stock ics as it will have the lg bloatware & the optimus ui, but with AOSP projects and trees like cyanogenmod,i think it can not only run,but run very well on our black.
and btw, the black uses tiomap 3630 & cortex a8 combo, i think it's stock 1ghz and NOT factory overclocked. the 3610 chipset would have been overclocked 2 get 1ghz, not 3630.
My Nexus S runs ICS AOSP+ 4.0.3 + M4trix Kernel flawlessly & very smooth. I also can OB & NS have similar hardware configuration, so it must be supported! CM9 already on its way afaik
I think OB can handle it as LG stated it in their schedule of ICS upgrade for their optimus phones.
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i think it's stock 1ghz and NOT factory overclocked. the 3610 chipset would have been overclocked 2 get 1ghz, not 3630.
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If you peek at knzo's notes while developing his Nova, it is factory overclocked which it explains why the Black is never stable when overclocked to 1.2Ghz and above. Here's another android phone using the very same processor clocked at the stock speed: Defy.
Just to be clear I'm not sourgraping but CM9 may just be our only hope for ICS (at least ICS before the end of 2012).
Since there is an ICS Beta avaiable for the GT540 (600Mhz) i think the OB will do just fine
now who went on to tell you ics requires 1ghz and 512mb... google for android developer phones and you will be surprised at the minimum spec needed for ics... these are the phones on which fw are developed and it is required that fw runs on them smoothly... the minimum reqs are so low that even 600ghz 256mb can handle it...
ps:no gpu required too
Ricardo said that every device with 512 MB ram and more will be supported by CyanogenMod
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in regard to my previous post (2 posts up) current dev phone is htc magic with only 192mb ram (unlike the 288mb that aired the market) and 528mhz arm cpu so that means ics was developed and should run on it. The galaxy nexus is the advanced dev phone and that is a totally different matter. This means that black will be more than adequate to run ICS compared to the htc magic's specs... It would be lame to asume that google is developing towards the high end users as even as we speak 1ghz is starting to become the standard on market and still it isnt if you look at the low end devices that are released out there still... There will be still some time till 1ghz/512 ram are considered the standard (not by users but by companies that is) so it is safe to assume that you will be ok for quite some time with black (and me with o3d). Hell my kid's huawei joy (aka vodafone joy845) has beta versions of ICS running and it is th lamest phone I ever layed my hands on.
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If you peek at knzo's notes while developing his Nova, it is factory overclocked which it explains why the Black is never stable when overclocked to 1.2Ghz and above. Here's another android phone using the very same processor clocked at the stock speed: Defy.
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from wikipedia (emphasis added):
3630-800MHz(underclocked): Motorola Bravo, Motorola Defy;[6]
3630-1000MHz(Default Speed): Nokia N9, Nokia N950, Sony Ericsson Vivaz, Motorola Milestone 2,Motorola Cliq 2, Motorola Defy+, Palm Pre 2, Droid X, Droid 2, Archos 101, Archos 70, Archos 43, Archos 32, Archos 28, LG Optimus Black, LG Optimus bright L-07C, Samsung I9003 Galaxy S(C)L, SAMSUNG GALAXY 7 TAB (P1010) Wifi Only, LG-LU3000 Optimus Mach, Panasonic P-07C, Panasonic Sweety 003P
3630-1200MHz(overclocked): Motorola Droid 2 Global
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Hi there!
I'm new to the Optimus 2x rom stuff. I used a Galaxy Spica before, which I rooted and installed some nice roms on.
On my LG it seems that the custom-roms I chose so far make no difference in speed compared to the stock rom.
Quadrantscore: ~2200 with WIUI 2.5.25 Stable (GB) and ETaNa STOCK_LITE 2.6.32 which is (according to Quadrant) below the O2X.
In some rom-threads I see scores of about 4000-6000 how do I reach that? Did I do something wrong?
greetings, and thanks for your tips
reijin
//PS.: I'm aware, that those scores are not a prefect representation of how the overall experience with a Rom is, but I'd like to know. At least the new Rom feels way better then the original stock rom.
Yeah it's a bit strange. I'm using cm7 on mine, the general performance is really nice and fast no complaints from me but running quadrant benchmark I get scores of around 2200-2300. My friends o2x hits scores closer to 3000 on the same rom. Both using temasek's kernel too.
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I only have experience with ICS ROMs and kernels, but I can testify I've consistently had quadrant scores >4000. It's a complicated mix of the hardware you have (no two o2x's are the same), whether your kernel allows overclock, how optimized the io is, etc.
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try to use antutu benchmark and see your score. and you're using stock lite which is 1.0ghz the clock. if you want to get higher score try HOC lite, and use OC/UV programs to control your clock cpu. i use pimp my cpu profile i set:
- daily freq: 216-1015MHZ.
- bench freq (like antutu,quardrant, necore, vellamo, and so on): 216-1418MHZ.
- and so on, what ever profile you want
You used spica and you don't know this basics?
Spica's angry anboys can tell you.
I can say that high quadrant scores can be resulted when IO rate is very high. You can cheat quadrant at it will think IO rate is high but it won't make phone a formula 1.
Use app2ad or something that uses ext partition and then run quadrant.
I am afraid y used spica and didn't know it.
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With CM9 Harsh kernel i have in Quadrant 3200 points
Hello!
I was wondering if someone could provide a kernel running at a speed above the 1.5 Ghz?
I think to remember that Maromi already offered a kernel with 1.6 Ghz but due to freezing issues (smartflex?!)
it's not available anymore.
Actually I'm having the 1.5 Ghz (thx to Maromi and Hashcode by the way!) running on the last CM10.1 (06/04)
with persanos tweaks (thx to him as well!).
The device isn't getting hot even while playing games, watching movies or running the Antutu Benchmark (~9200)
Mistaz said:
Hello!
I was wondering if someone could provide a kernel running at a speed above the 1.5 Ghz?
I think to remember that Maromi already offered a kernel with 1.6 Ghz but due to freezing issues (smartflex?!)
it's not available anymore.
Actually I'm having the 1.5 Ghz (thx to Maromi and Hashcode by the way!) running on the last CM10.1 (06/04)
with persanos tweaks (thx to him as well!).
The device isn't getting hot even while playing games, watching movies or running the Antutu Benchmark (~9200)
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Hummm... I would use Hashcode's kernel but i'll see what else I find and get back to you.
Yeah, maromi and Hashcode have the lead on the kernel thing. They have been working together to provide the 1.5 ghz kernel. As far as I know it is the only stable OC kernel for Kindle. I remember I think it was Hascode said the Kindle actually isn't even meant to get up to 1.5, so to go higher than that probably not, and I think it was maromi said basically it was a fine balance between OC and heat issues and 1.5 ghz is really pushing the upper limits of the cpu. So just taking a guess, but probably won't see higher than 1.5.
I think the smartflex thing had something to do with the voltage tables of the CPU and I also read that maromi had a 1.7 but never released it. The overheating issues had to do with the smart flex being turned off but hashcode fixed that with a new voltage table for the 1.5. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed they can release something higher that is stable and doesn't overheat. I'd test it.
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Ok guys, I wanted just to share this video, showing results on AnTutu benchmark on Google Nexus 4 running stock 4.3.
It's not mine, but sorry for bad camera and sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMUOIiBkSPM
theres a benchmark thread for this kind of stuff http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1967843
TheRazr said:
Ok guys, I wanted just to share this video, showing results on AnTutu benchmark on Google Nexus 4 running stock 4.3.
It's not mine, but sorry for bad camera and sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMUOIiBkSPM
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My Optimus G would score over 17,500 on 4.1.2, unlocked, non-rooted. I've read somewhere that Google hasn't calibrated the N4 right. The screen, for example, is the same IPS+ (4.7 inches, 768 x 1280) that's used on the Optimus G, yet the Optimus G produces a better output owing to a better calibration. I've used the Optimus G, so I can say for certain it's got a better display than the N4. But, benchmarks don't mean much. The OS is very smooth, I've experienced no lag whatsoever, and that's all that matters to me.
How is this score special? my (stock, rooted) N4 scores the same on current 4.2.2
The Optimus G does indeed have a nicer screen yet a far more bloated UI (Ram would be running at 1gb with no apps running compared to about 500mb with tons running on my N4)
Owned both, like parts of both!
kalo88 said:
The Optimus G does indeed have a nicer screen yet a far more bloated UI (Ram would be running at 1gb with no apps running compared to about 500mb with tons running on my N4)
Owned both, like parts of both!
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Still, it ran pretty smoothly, aside from the occasional, minor hiccup. But I do agree with you on RAM usage. I've got the same applications installed on my N4, and I've got a good 1.5 gigs free.
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How is this score special? my (stock, rooted) N4 scores the same on current 4.2.2
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Exactly my best score on rooted stock 4.2.2 was over 17900.
I got 24351 (antutu) with Franco Kernel , Performance Governor , Overclocked to 1.7 Ghz , Increased the thermal throttle threshold to 90 C for the duration of the test , closed all apps.
With a decent GPU overclock , some more CPU overclock , couple of i/o tweaks from me , i'm pretty sure i would get something close to 27000-28000.
Which is actually more than Galaxy S4's scores.
It overheats though , you wouldn't wanna use it like that all the time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1967843
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