Hi guys.
I want to try a custom rom.
When i had my legend i used to flash it without backup, i had my stock andoid and besides that i didn't have any apps that needed backup, i only wanted to keep my files (photos/music).
Now, on my note, i have a lot more.
I want to make a total backup, including all of the progress in my games, my whatsapp history and such.
Does a cwm backup do all this? I mean i haven't moved any of my apps to my sdcard, but i can imagine it has some system things on there?
Because i also want to do a full whipe, at the moment i dont know what files are being used and wich not (both internal and sd card storage)
Also, i want a way to copy all of my apps (including whatsapp history and game progress) to my new rom. Will something like titanium backup do trick?
And a final question, when rooting with exploit method (link) it doen't install an other kernel. I've read it isn't save to whipe on stock kernel. I also know with every rom there is an built-in kernel. But, if i'm right i have to whipe before installing the rom. Do i have to install an save kernel for the whiping? And wich kernel would you guys reccomend?
Thanx
First of all its good that you have read that it's not safe to wipe on stock ics kernel.
You have not told us your current rom. If you are rooted install, philz or hydracore kernel which is safe. Yes you will need to wipe before flashing a different rom. And a backup made in CWM will backup everything. And TB can be used to restore data of user apps likes games and all. But it does not do a good job restoring system apps like contacts and messages logs etc. Use super backup for that.
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Right now I'm using CM 6.1.1 on my Nexus One. When I flashed CM for the first time I wiped my SD card right after I installed the ROM, so I really don't remember too much about what happened to my apps or anything like that. So, my question is, if I want to install CM 7, can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards? Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7? I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did.. Does that kinda make sense? I feel dumb for asking all this. Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right? And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents? So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
Thanks for taking the time to read my long, poorly written batch of questions Help would be very very appreciated!
SD card isn't touched when flashing ROMs.
You can restore your backup and it'll be all like it was.
If you use DT A2SD - things start being more complicated.
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can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards?
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Yes, you can leave your SD contents as is, they won't be touched.
Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7?
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Pictures, Music, Videos etc that are stored on the SD card will remain untouched by flashing a new ROM, however apps are a different story. Basically you've got two main types of Apps on SD cards. The first is froyos implementation which is basically used to free up space on the phone memory but will not survive a wipe or flashing a new ROM. The alternative is Dark Tremors A2SD which uses a dedicated partition on your SD card (Created through recovery) to store apps by tricking the system into thinking the folder on your SD card is actually on internal memory. Once a new ROM is installed over the current (Which obviously must use DT A2SD also) these apps should be available again with their settings etc remaining.
I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did
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Again, all data/media remains but apps require A2SD or its variants.
Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right?
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When you backup/nandroid you take a screenshot of sorts of your system. By default I think most recovery images save the boot, system, data and cache partitions when a backup is being made. Certain recoveries offer to backup other partitions such as sd-ext (Where A2SD stores the apps). Backups are designated by folders with a time stamp, I personally rename these to reflect the contents e.g. MM.v.20 tells me this is MicroMods v.20 of his GB ROM. Obviously yours will differ but I find this keeps things organised. Basically think of nandroid as the Android equivalent of Acronis true image or Norton Ghost for the PC. It lets you create any number of backups which will restore your device to the exact state at the moment of backup.
And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents?
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A newly flashed ROM will basically restore your device to factory settings but on the new ROM. Once you've signed in to your Google account certain settings and content will be automatically downloaded e.g. Calendar appointments, Contacts. Other settings will not be restored e.g. Display brightness, alarms.
So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
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Nope, again it would return to the factory settings. However you can restore nandroid backups you have made of your original ROM which would return the system exactly to its previous state.
Basically if you're on a stock ROM it won't have A2SD. If you wish to use A2SD from now on then find a ROM which uses it, partition your SD card appropriately (Plenty of guides around) and you'll have minimal problems moving from ROM to ROM. As for Nandroid you'll find that most ROM devs recommend wiping all data from the phone (Not SD card) before flashing their ROM. Otherwise files or settings from other ROMs can cause some undesired effects on your current one.
Good luck and get reading the Nexus wiki, it's very helpful for these types of questions
Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings) but I can't seem to find any info after a quick Google and it never interested me enough to look into it further. Perhaps someone can clear this up?
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Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings)
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I dont think thats true.. suppose it's formatted during a wipe.. titanium backup serves the purpose like a charm.. (with all the settings for the apps and the resumes for the games)
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I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
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I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
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yeah that would be fine..
btw 1: if you upgrading a cm nightly, you need not wipe system n cache..
2: if you do a titanium backup before, then you can finish all the steps in the recovery in one go..
n I dint quite get what you are asking. but from what I know, apps 2 sd folder (ie android.secure) is erased in a wipe.. that isnt changing
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shreyas - thanks for your help.
I understand the A2SD (EXT) partition onthe sd will be wiped, but I'm assuming I would have to do nothing to get the new rom to see the ext and use it?
That's really my question. Would recovering my apps from Titanium push them back on the A2SD location or would I need to install A2SD again?
i don't think so..
I suppose that the pro version must support the direct a2sd.. but give it a try.. if it dosent work then you have do manually..
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Hey people,must i lose all the apps and contacts i have when installing a custom rom?,and if yes,is there a way to backup apps and reinstall them,
thanks
When you update the ROM there is no need to do a full wipe (unless the dev says so) but when you are changing ROMs it's highly recommended to do a full wipe in order to avoid bugs. To backup your apps, you can use Titanium Backup from the market, it's the most popular one. For contacts, there is an option to export them in the SD card (and/or SIM card) and import them back after you change ROMs. Search the market for message backup-ers (Is that even a word????) so you don't loose them too. That's pretty much it.
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When you update the ROM there is no need to do a full wipe (unless the dev says so) but when you are changing ROMs it's highly recommended to do a full wipe in order to avoid bugs. To backup your apps, you can use Titanium Backup from the market, it's the most popular one. For contacts, there is an option to export them in the SD card (and/or SIM card) and import them back after you change ROMs. Search the market for message backup-ers (Is that even a word????) so you don't loose them too. That's pretty much it.
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Im updating from Froyobread to GingerDX,does that count as an "update"
i dont really care for the contacts , i have them on another sim,
but i have most of my apps on sd,they will get deleted right?
i will use titanium backup program to backup them,then flash gingerdx,
thats an update aight?
Thanks
No that's not an update. Update is like going from FB v021 to FB v022
You are changing ROMs so, yes, backup your apps with TBackup and re-transfer them to the SD card.
And please press the Thanks button instead of saying it
Use Titanium Backup or similir to save your apps+settings.
Export contact or just sync it to Google.
Then after you load new rom you just restore all.
You can always try NOT do full-wipe, but it can not work (I got boot loop).
guys, im looking for a backup app that backups all my contente, like games and apps.
meanwhile, when you use titanium backup, does it also backup the game data folders where my saved game are, or he just backups my apk? and where dos it bakup all that? on SD card or what? and does it need root, as i dont have it?
Try using Google for questions like that please. They aren't exactly device-specific questions :banghead:
Carbon
I do not know if I understand what you want. however, check whether this application serves you. "CARBON" No root and backup. It's new and it's Playstore.
link:
http://mobilexpert.com.br/diario-do-android/materias/2255/
Titanium Backup can store everything and anywhere. I tried a custom ROM this weekend so I made a complete backup of all my data on my sd card, tried the ROM (I had to delete everything first) and came back to the LG stock ROM and I used Titanium Backup to restore my data. Everything is as before, I did not lose anything (and I have a few games)
but i heard it need root. i dont have it (cant have it), is it true?
I'm not sure that the pro version needs root (that's the only app you should pay for) since I have it. It's not really hard to do. Else i don't know other solutions but Google can definitely help you
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Why cant you have root acces ?
change a new Rom with the best performance means:
full wipe (cashe,data,preload,system)
also not restore app (at least app data) from titanium backup.
so, install all app again and make setup for all
guys, how do you this? I have already xxlsz a mounth installed, everything is working, but I know, new rom could be better.
otherwise I am tired of restoring...
sometimes I am thinking I could be happy with a iphone so simply
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change a new Rom with the best performance means:
full wipe (cashe,data,preload,system)
also not restore app (at least app data) from titanium backup.
so, install all app again and make setup for all
guys, how do you this? I have already xxlsz a mounth installed, everything is working, but I know, new rom could be better.
otherwise I am tired of restoring...
sometimes I am thinking I could be happy with a iphone so simply
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Have you been downloading all of your apps every time you flash a new ROM ?
You can restore user apps and data.
Just don't restore any system app/data
Got it?
for me the RomCustomizer by ficeto is great app for restoring, backuping, uninstalling apps, and I never restore any data. If the app which I use have option to save/restore settings I do that (and this kind of data is usualy saved on internal sd) same thing is for gps navigation programs (maps are always saved on internal sd)
so after flashing new rom, first thing is installing rom customzer, then restoring user and also some system apps (I do backup of some system apps which is updated, it saves my time from updating via playstore)
and thats it, new rom is set up in about 30min
this way I dont have any problems with any rom and any app I used
hope it helped to someone
till now I just have restored some user app+data from titanium, some download again from market. never restore system app or data.
once I have deleted my internal card and download all app again cuz some people had problem with performance of that rom and this want recommend. also I wanted a bit clean my phone.
ok, now I am confuse. it's safe restore user data or better just save data if the app has this in option and then restore?
thanks guys.
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till now I just have restored some user app+data from titanium, some download again from market. never restore system app or data.
once I have deleted my internal card and download all app again cuz some people had problem with performance of that rom and this want recommend. also I wanted a bit clean my phone.
ok, now I am confuse. it's safe restore user data or better just save data if the app has this in option and then restore?
thanks guys.
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Both are safe. The latter method requires you to individually restore data while in the former you can batch restore data. Which one you want to use is up to you.
so for the best performance of a new ROM is NOT nesesary format internal card and NOT restore app+data ?
Make ROM CUSTOMIZER backup of app with or without data? (I didnt find this option like in Titanium Backup).
Hi there, I'm thinking of changing from one Custom ROM to another and I'm wondering if there's any way to preserve my app settings/data? I have CWM and I hear that I can make a backup using that and then use Titanium Backup to extract and install apps from that backup, but will that restore settings/data? Another thing I was wondering about is carrying across contacts. I also have Link2SD installed which moves apps to a partition on my SD card then creates symbolic links to them on the phone, but will these apps be included in the backup or cause any problems down the line? Finally, I'm currently running a ROM (Troll of Steel) based on CM9 and the one I'm planning on switching to is also CM9 based. Is it worth switching to CM10 or CM10.1 (I hear CM9 is less laggy than CM10/10.1 on Aces) and is there any way to get the stock camera working on CM9 ROMs?
Any help is very much appreciated, thanks!
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Hi there, I'm thinking of changing from one Custom ROM to another and I'm wondering if there's any way to preserve my app settings/data? I have CWM and I hear that I can make a backup using that and then use Titanium Backup to extract and install apps from that backup, but will that restore settings/data? Another thing I was wondering about is carrying across contacts. I also have Link2SD installed which moves apps to a partition on my SD card then creates symbolic links to them on the phone, but will these apps be included in the backup or cause any problems down the line? Finally, I'm currently running a ROM (Troll of Steel) based on CM9 and the one I'm planning on switching to is also CM9 based. Is it worth switching to CM10 or CM10.1 (I hear CM9 is less laggy than CM10/10.1 on Aces) and is there any way to get the stock camera working on CM9 ROMs?
Any help is very much appreciated, thanks!
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Okay, so here are 3 questions, not 1.
1. You may try Titanium , although I have never used it so cannot comment on it.
2. Yes all your Apps (even the ones linked to sd-ext will be Backed up as they are.
3. CM 10/10.1 are still facing some issues, while in CM 9 most issues are solved in Final 3 version by Maclaw.
And lastly if you find any CM 9 Rom with solid battery life do lemme know.
CarteNoir said:
Hi there, I'm thinking of changing from one Custom ROM to another and I'm wondering if there's any way to preserve my app settings/data? I have CWM and I hear that I can make a backup using that and then use Titanium Backup to extract and install apps from that backup, but will that restore settings/data? Another thing I was wondering about is carrying across contacts. I also have Link2SD installed which moves apps to a partition on my SD card then creates symbolic links to them on the phone, but will these apps be included in the backup or cause any problems down the line? Finally, I'm currently running a ROM (Troll of Steel) based on CM9 and the one I'm planning on switching to is also CM9 based. Is it worth switching to CM10 or CM10.1 (I hear CM9 is less laggy than CM10/10.1 on Aces) and is there any way to get the stock camera working on CM9 ROMs?
Any help is very much appreciated, thanks!
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Hi CarteNoir,
You can use CWM (5.0.2.6 fixed) for making a rom's nandroid backup: so if you then restore that backup (from CWM), you reinstall the same rom with the same settings and apps/datas (all of them).
You can use Titanium Backup for backup apps/datas and then restore individually/bunched in the same or in another compatible rom.
You can use nandroid manager for restore apps/datas directly from nandroid backups in the same or in a different (but compatible) rom within that last rom (as nandroid manager is an application itself, it doesn't need CWM for restoring).
All my best.