[Q] A few questions on what is going on - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I purchased a nook hd+ on ebay, and I've been reading around am just look for some straight answers before I take a dive.
I want a little understanding of what it is going on.
Is what is being run aosp android, like cm10 or are people just running gapps in the stock b&n os?
Can whatever things are being run have no other choice but to run on an sd card, or can they run from the internal memory?

KCIsaac said:
So I purchased a nook hd+ on ebay, and I've been reading around am just look for some straight answers before I take a dive.
I want a little understanding of what it is going on.
Is what is being run aosp android, like cm10 or are people just running gapps in the stock b&n os?
Can whatever things are being run have no other choice but to run on an sd card, or can they run from the internal memory?
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You currently have two choices, run CM10 or CM10.1 on SD or run stock on internal either virgin or modified for root or gapps or other mods. We cannot run another ROM on internal memory yet.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD

leapinlar said:
You currently have two choices, run CM10 or CM10.1 on SD or run stock on internal either virgin or modified for root or gapps or other mods. We cannot run another ROM on internal memory yet.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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So I can't root or use CM10(.1) unit I get an SD card is what I'm understanding right?
And has anyone confirmed you can use a 64gb sandisk uhs-1 card for this?

KCIsaac said:
So I can't root or use CM10(.1) unit I get an SD card is what I'm understanding right?
And has anyone confirmed you can use a 64gb sandisk uhs-1 card for this?
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You are understanding it right. SD is necessary to root and SD is necessary if you want CM10. Some have said those SDs are ok. To root it can be any card, even a 1GB card.

leapinlar said:
You are understanding it right. SD is necessary to root and SD is necessary if you want CM10. Some have said those SDs are ok. To root it can be any card, even a 1GB card.
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I waited for an SD card to come over the weekend and I was finally able to add GApps to stock.
I've been liking the experience so far, but I was wondering how multitasking works on stock.
The stock launcher doesn't seem recognize apps from the play store.
Is there a different way to switch and/or close apps?

KCIsaac said:
I waited for an SD card to come over the weekend and I was finally able to add GApps to stock.
I've been liking the experience so far, but I was wondering how multitasking works on stock.
The stock launcher doesn't seem recognize apps from the play store.
Is there a different way to switch and/or close apps?
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The zeam launcher came with gapps (rev1) so that can be used to; launch the apps added with play store. And there are other apps that let you see recent apps. Like recents plus.
Sent from my BNTV400 using Tapatalk

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brand new nook color root?

Hi guys, I just got a new color and want to root it. Ive read and it gets a little confusing and Im wondering where I can find full instructions or maybe even a video on how to fully root it. I have the new version 1.3.0. Also, what is the best rom to use right now? Thanks.
Do you want the the internal system or use a MicroSD card to accomplish it?
I have done 4 Nooks using the uSD card and it has worked very well.
I just did this last night, and there is a very simple tutorial here
(hope its ok to post this link)
http://icrontic.com/discussion/93234/how-to-root-a-nook-color-install-cyanogenmod-7-and-overclock-it
I did everything they said, and it went smoothly. Now I have an awesome "tablet"!
Thanks. I am writing the image file now. When all is said and done, do I have to worry about OTA updates from Barnes and Nobel and if so what can I do to prevent them???
I rooted my daughters nook tablet and had to go through the process of blocking updates from barnes and nobel because it was preventing her from installing apps other than from barnes and nobel. Just wondering if the color will be the same since this is a full root.
tightwad said:
Do you want the the internal system or use a MicroSD card to accomplish it?
I have done 4 Nooks using the uSD card and it has worked very well.
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I am gonna do a full root on the internal system. I am gonna use it strictly like an android tablet.
Solo118 said:
I just did this last night, and there is a very simple tutorial here
(hope its ok to post this link)
http://icrontic.com/discussion/93234/how-to-root-a-nook-color-install-cyanogenmod-7-and-overclock-it
I did everything they said, and it went smoothly. Now I have an awesome "tablet"!
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This guide says to use a Nook Color with 1.2. Will it work with one that is running 1.3?
Yes, I have 1.3 and used this method posted above and I am now running Cyanogenmod 7.2. Looks reat! Now I need to find out about updates........
32GB SD
So if I purchase a 32GB SD card can I use the left over storage on the SD card after rooting? Also, I thought I heard that a class 4 SD card is the best to get. Anything slower, may cause issues. Is that correct as well? My new nook is on tha way and I am getting ready to root it.
Thanks in advance.
You should use a class 4 Sandisk card.. even faster cards of other brands do not work as well.
Bidderman9 said:
So if I purchase a 32GB SD card can I use the left over storage on the SD card after rooting? Also, I thought I heard that a class 4 SD card is the best to get. Anything slower, may cause issues. Is that correct as well? My new nook is on tha way and I am getting ready to root it.
Thanks in advance.
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1. Yes
2. Anything other than a Sandisk is going to cause issues.
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One last newbie question. So if I have a 4GB SD card formatted to boot with WinDiskImager, can I use that to back up my original nook 1.3 image before I root it? Then copy the CM7 and google apps zip files to it and use that to root it? Once rooted place a blank 32GB SD card it in for storage use? Then I can keep my 4GB SD card as a backup and also us it for root updates? Am I on the right track.
Thanks in advance, this thread has been helpful!

Dual boot without SC card?

I recently updated my Nook with dual boot from the SD card but I find that it locks up a lot and it very slow. I figure it is probably the brand of SD card I am using but now I am wondering if I really want the original Nook software in it at all. Is it possible to dual boot without using a SD with two exact CM7 Roms, one with all my info and one with my wifes?
Raydee35 said:
I recently updated my Nook with dual boot from the SD card but I find that it locks up a lot and it very slow. I figure it is probably the brand of SD card I am using but now I am wondering if I really want the original Nook software in it at all. Is it possible to dual boot without using a SD with two exact CM7 Roms, one with all my info and one with my wifes?
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Yes, it's possible, but I don't recommend it. There are old threads that will tell you how to do it. I recommend against because to implement you must repartition emmc and that is risky. And you will have problems in the future if you want to update the ROM on the second system.
I recommend putting one system on emmc and another on a quality SD using the verygreen system. That's what I run and it works great.
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk
OK thanks for the info. For now I have CM7 on the Nook and it runs 100 times better than when I had it on the SD card.
Raydee35 said:
OK thanks for the info. For now I have CM7 on the Nook and it runs 100 times better than when I had it on the SD card.
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With a good SD card it should run just as well as it does on internal. San Disk class 4 tend to work the best as bootable SD cards.
I tried to post a link to the card that I want to buy but I dont have enough posts
Raydee35 said:
I tried to post a link to the card that I want to buy but I dont have enough posts
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Just get a San Disk and that will take care of any potential card issues. This is the best possible way to avoid any potential issues with running a bootable SD

[Q] Increasing SD transfer speed

I have the stock NookHD rooted but was wondering how best to implement a higher cache speed on my SD card (class 10 PNY) If I can use an app I'm hoping it does not mess with the /system, But maybe there is a better way? (A flashable zip in recovery)
The reason I ask is because when transferring media files between the pc and and BNTV400, it either lags/crashes or in other cases moving files already on the card says it will take upwards of 40 minutes to complete! Is this really how they want the Nook to function?
If I'm looking at this the wrong way please let me know!
9v9 said:
I have the stock NookHD rooted but was wondering how best to implement a higher cache speed on my SD card (class 10 PNY) If I can use an app I'm hoping it does not mess with the /system, But maybe there is a better way? (A flashable zip in recovery)
The reason I ask is because when transferring media files between the pc and and BNTV400, it either lags/crashes or in other cases moving files already on the card says it will take upwards of 40 minutes to complete! Is this really how they want the Nook to function?
If I'm looking at this the wrong way please let me know!
If this post is in the wrong spot please move it.
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Part of the problem is that pny SD. They are horrible with these devices. And the stock kernel does a bad job with with external SDs. Not much you can do except get a different card.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
leapinlar said:
Part of the problem is that pny SD. They are horrible with these devices. And the stock kernel does a bad job with with external SDs. Not much you can do except get a different card.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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FYI, I'm using Trancend class 10 SD (32GB) on Nook HD+ and it seems to work with no issues. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633 thread has even list of good and bad flash cards (in terms of IO, especially random 4kb IO. You may check this thread choose a replacement.
leapinlar said:
Part of the problem is that pny SD. They are horrible with these devices. And the stock kernel does a bad job with with external SDs. Not much you can do except get a different card.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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How likely do you think it would be in the future that we get a custom kernel? Obviously I don't think any of us would be running the stock OS by then either but would it have an impact on the speeds both internal or external? I'm hoping it's not a limitation of the hardware.
Dmitriusan said:
FYI, I'm using Trancend class 10 SD (32GB) on Nook HD+ and it seems to work with no issues. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633 thread has even list of good and bad flash cards (in terms of IO, especially random 4kb IO. You may check this thread choose a replacement.
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I will look into it for future expansion, I just hope that it's the card and not hardware differences between nookHD and the HD+
9v9 said:
How likely do you think it would be in the future that we get a custom kernel? Obviously I don't think any of us would be running the stock OS by then either but would it have an impact on the speeds both internal or external? I'm hoping it's not a limitation of the hardware.
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If you are running CM10 on HD+ you are running a custom kernel. Verygreen builds his own from B&N source. And he customizes it. He says the SD problems seems to be hardware related.
But, because of locked bootloader issues, it may a long time before custom kernels come to stock.
Sent from my Nook HD running CM10.1 on SD

[Q] Do I need Micro SD card to unlock, root, and flash?

So I just picked up the Nook Tablet HD+.. I want to install a rom, but don't have an extra microSD laying around and I don't ever really want to use the B&N interface.. and would rather use a stable stock type set-up. I tried searching, and saw some methods for flashing into internal, but I believe you already had to be unlocked through an microSD.
Also, when I am reading EMMC, that is talking about the internal storage, correct?
You need to use a micro SD if you want to change anything (either on internal or installing another ROM to SD). And yes, emmc is internal memory (Embedded MultiMedia Card).
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
You need to use a micro SD if you want to change anything (either on internal or installing another ROM to SD). And yes, emmc is internal memory (Embedded MultiMedia Card).
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Thanks a lot. Would you say CM 10.1 pretty stable? Is it faster than stock? I'm running Nova launcher which helps a lot with the look and feel.
gregs1213 said:
Thanks a lot. Would you say CM 10.1 pretty stable? Is it faster than stock? I'm running Nova launcher which helps a lot with the look and feel.
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It is very stable and faster.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

[Q] DIY for emmc-less Rom

My nook hd+ got bricked by the infamous lagfix app.I dont live in the US so I cant replace it. Verygreen made a special sd card install for me that worked on a emmc less system.It worked but since then I am stuck on a single Rom. So can someone please tell me how can I tweak a Rom to work on my emmc less tablet.Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hello my nook hd+ did the same when i run lagfix for the first time on carbon rom. Can you pleas upload the sd card image you have so I can use my Nook because there is no way to return it. I living in Eastern Europe and nook was a present from my brother business trip in USA.
mave2 said:
Hello my nook hd+ did the same when i run lagfix for the first time on carbon rom. Can you pleas upload the sd card image you have so I can use my Nook because there is no way to return it. I living in Eastern Europe and nook was a present from my brother business trip in USA.
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Look at verygreen's post here.
Worked very good i am using 16 GB card and it is nice and smooth. I just wont to ask you can I install CyanogenMod updates the are shown in the menu or they are not for this type SD only system.
mave2 said:
Worked very good i am using 16 GB card and it is nice and smooth. I just wont to ask you can I install CyanogenMod updates the are shown in the menu or they are not for this type SD only system.
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No, the updates are for internal memory only. They will not work on any SD. That is why the OP was asking for some way to convert them to this scheme.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
Another question regarding the Nook hd+ tablets without internal memory, whether the use of the application lagfix / trim can cause more damage and may lead to the inability to boot or damage SD card or SD card controller inside the tablet.
mave2 said:
Another question regarding the Nook hd+ tablets without internal memory, whether the use of the application lagfix / trim can cause more damage and may lead to the inability to boot or damage SD card or SD card controller inside the tablet.
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You should not need lagfix on an SD setup, especially a no-emmc one. And nothing you do should effect the ability to boot from SD.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

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