[Q] Do I need Micro SD card to unlock, root, and flash? - Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I just picked up the Nook Tablet HD+.. I want to install a rom, but don't have an extra microSD laying around and I don't ever really want to use the B&N interface.. and would rather use a stable stock type set-up. I tried searching, and saw some methods for flashing into internal, but I believe you already had to be unlocked through an microSD.
Also, when I am reading EMMC, that is talking about the internal storage, correct?

You need to use a micro SD if you want to change anything (either on internal or installing another ROM to SD). And yes, emmc is internal memory (Embedded MultiMedia Card).
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

leapinlar said:
You need to use a micro SD if you want to change anything (either on internal or installing another ROM to SD). And yes, emmc is internal memory (Embedded MultiMedia Card).
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
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Thanks a lot. Would you say CM 10.1 pretty stable? Is it faster than stock? I'm running Nova launcher which helps a lot with the look and feel.

gregs1213 said:
Thanks a lot. Would you say CM 10.1 pretty stable? Is it faster than stock? I'm running Nova launcher which helps a lot with the look and feel.
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It is very stable and faster.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

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[Q] A few questions on what is going on

So I purchased a nook hd+ on ebay, and I've been reading around am just look for some straight answers before I take a dive.
I want a little understanding of what it is going on.
Is what is being run aosp android, like cm10 or are people just running gapps in the stock b&n os?
Can whatever things are being run have no other choice but to run on an sd card, or can they run from the internal memory?
KCIsaac said:
So I purchased a nook hd+ on ebay, and I've been reading around am just look for some straight answers before I take a dive.
I want a little understanding of what it is going on.
Is what is being run aosp android, like cm10 or are people just running gapps in the stock b&n os?
Can whatever things are being run have no other choice but to run on an sd card, or can they run from the internal memory?
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You currently have two choices, run CM10 or CM10.1 on SD or run stock on internal either virgin or modified for root or gapps or other mods. We cannot run another ROM on internal memory yet.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
leapinlar said:
You currently have two choices, run CM10 or CM10.1 on SD or run stock on internal either virgin or modified for root or gapps or other mods. We cannot run another ROM on internal memory yet.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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So I can't root or use CM10(.1) unit I get an SD card is what I'm understanding right?
And has anyone confirmed you can use a 64gb sandisk uhs-1 card for this?
KCIsaac said:
So I can't root or use CM10(.1) unit I get an SD card is what I'm understanding right?
And has anyone confirmed you can use a 64gb sandisk uhs-1 card for this?
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You are understanding it right. SD is necessary to root and SD is necessary if you want CM10. Some have said those SDs are ok. To root it can be any card, even a 1GB card.
leapinlar said:
You are understanding it right. SD is necessary to root and SD is necessary if you want CM10. Some have said those SDs are ok. To root it can be any card, even a 1GB card.
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I waited for an SD card to come over the weekend and I was finally able to add GApps to stock.
I've been liking the experience so far, but I was wondering how multitasking works on stock.
The stock launcher doesn't seem recognize apps from the play store.
Is there a different way to switch and/or close apps?
KCIsaac said:
I waited for an SD card to come over the weekend and I was finally able to add GApps to stock.
I've been liking the experience so far, but I was wondering how multitasking works on stock.
The stock launcher doesn't seem recognize apps from the play store.
Is there a different way to switch and/or close apps?
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The zeam launcher came with gapps (rev1) so that can be used to; launch the apps added with play store. And there are other apps that let you see recent apps. Like recents plus.
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[Q] Increasing SD transfer speed

I have the stock NookHD rooted but was wondering how best to implement a higher cache speed on my SD card (class 10 PNY) If I can use an app I'm hoping it does not mess with the /system, But maybe there is a better way? (A flashable zip in recovery)
The reason I ask is because when transferring media files between the pc and and BNTV400, it either lags/crashes or in other cases moving files already on the card says it will take upwards of 40 minutes to complete! Is this really how they want the Nook to function?
If I'm looking at this the wrong way please let me know!
9v9 said:
I have the stock NookHD rooted but was wondering how best to implement a higher cache speed on my SD card (class 10 PNY) If I can use an app I'm hoping it does not mess with the /system, But maybe there is a better way? (A flashable zip in recovery)
The reason I ask is because when transferring media files between the pc and and BNTV400, it either lags/crashes or in other cases moving files already on the card says it will take upwards of 40 minutes to complete! Is this really how they want the Nook to function?
If I'm looking at this the wrong way please let me know!
If this post is in the wrong spot please move it.
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Part of the problem is that pny SD. They are horrible with these devices. And the stock kernel does a bad job with with external SDs. Not much you can do except get a different card.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
leapinlar said:
Part of the problem is that pny SD. They are horrible with these devices. And the stock kernel does a bad job with with external SDs. Not much you can do except get a different card.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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FYI, I'm using Trancend class 10 SD (32GB) on Nook HD+ and it seems to work with no issues. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633 thread has even list of good and bad flash cards (in terms of IO, especially random 4kb IO. You may check this thread choose a replacement.
leapinlar said:
Part of the problem is that pny SD. They are horrible with these devices. And the stock kernel does a bad job with with external SDs. Not much you can do except get a different card.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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How likely do you think it would be in the future that we get a custom kernel? Obviously I don't think any of us would be running the stock OS by then either but would it have an impact on the speeds both internal or external? I'm hoping it's not a limitation of the hardware.
Dmitriusan said:
FYI, I'm using Trancend class 10 SD (32GB) on Nook HD+ and it seems to work with no issues. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633 thread has even list of good and bad flash cards (in terms of IO, especially random 4kb IO. You may check this thread choose a replacement.
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I will look into it for future expansion, I just hope that it's the card and not hardware differences between nookHD and the HD+
9v9 said:
How likely do you think it would be in the future that we get a custom kernel? Obviously I don't think any of us would be running the stock OS by then either but would it have an impact on the speeds both internal or external? I'm hoping it's not a limitation of the hardware.
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If you are running CM10 on HD+ you are running a custom kernel. Verygreen builds his own from B&N source. And he customizes it. He says the SD problems seems to be hardware related.
But, because of locked bootloader issues, it may a long time before custom kernels come to stock.
Sent from my Nook HD running CM10.1 on SD

Is it possiblle for HD to run CM 10.1 on Emmc, like HDplus

Hi there,
is it possible for HD to run CM10.1 on Emmc like HDplus?
thank you!
I'd like to know this as well. All I've seen for the NookHD is SDCard boot.
NookHD.w said:
Hi there,
is it possible for HD to run CM10.1 on Emmc like HDplus?
thank you!
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It is theoretically possible, but no one has done it yet.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
In that case, if I use the sd boot method, can I still use that card for storage as well, or is it deticated to booting CM?
hellslave said:
In that case, if I use the sd boot method, can I still use that card for storage as well, or is it deticated to booting CM?
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The SD does more that just boot. It stores the system and data files there too. You leave the SD inserted all the time. And it creates a large media storage partition to store files when running CM from SD. That is why it is best to use a large SD.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.

[Q] Having Trouble Creating SD Card with CM7 for Nook

I need some help with creating an SD card to boot android from on a Nook HD.
I tried this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
I used an old 8gb sandisk micro SD i got from a cell phone
Used win32 disk imager and flashed generic-sd card image onto the root of sd card
Then I took out the card and re-inserted it to get it recognize the new image as F:boot which has 4 files on it MLO U-boot, U ram disk, and u image
Then I went to install CM 7.2 files onto the SD - that's where i ran into trouble. It gave "Error No Room on Disk". I looked at the space on the Sd card and it said it was only 113Mb. _Please help. What did i do wrong when flashing the image file onto SD card to make the sd card smaller?
Thanks in advance for your help.
You have really got things mixed up. This is a Nook HD/HD+ thread and you linked to a Nook Color thread (they are different devices). CM7 does not run on the Nook HD. No wonder things are not working for you.
If you truly have a Nook HD, find a Nook HD thread for installing CM to SD (has to be CM10/CM10.1/CM10.2 though).
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trouble installing CM on Nook HD 8GB
leapinlar said:
You have really got things mixed up. This is a Nook HD/HD+ thread and you linked to a Nook Color thread (they are different devices). CM7 does not run on the Nook HD. No wonder things are not working for you.
If you truly have a Nook HD, find a Nook HD thread for installing CM to SD (has to be CM10/CM10.1/CM10.2 though).
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 2 using XDA Premium
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Thank you for the reply. I checked and yes I do have a Nook HD 8GB. I got it from walmart for $129.
So just to confirm - No CM7 will run on Nook HD?
Can you install CM 10 without rooting the device? And if so, is a non-rooted install that runs directly off the SD Card significantly slower than it was flashed to internal memory?
If CM 10 has to be installed to the internal memory, are there dual boot options that would keep what i have on the nook saved?
Also, I noticed when i tried to put CM7 on the SD card, it created a 113 image file, and left the remainder of the disk as "unallocated" - so during the install process how does that unallocated space get turned into usable space?
Any link for the build I need would be very appreciated. Not trying to get anyone to do the work for me, with all the different builds and install files, its complicated for a first timer.
Thanks for help
rnewton8 said:
Thank you for the reply. I checked and yes I do have a Nook HD 8GB. I got it from walmart for $129.
So just to confirm - No CM7 will run on Nook HD?
Can you install CM 10 without rooting the device? And if so, is a non-rooted install that runs directly off the SD Card significantly slower than it was flashed to internal memory?
If CM 10 has to be installed to the internal memory, are there dual boot options that would keep what i have on the nook saved?
Also, I noticed when i tried to put CM7 on the SD card, it created a 113 image file, and left the remainder of the disk as "unallocated" - so during the install process how does that unallocated space get turned into usable space?
Any link for the build I need would be very appreciated. Not trying to get anyone to do the work for me, with all the different builds and install files, its complicated for a first timer.
Thanks for help
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No, CM7 will run on the Nook HD.
You do not have to root stock to run CM from SD. You can run CM10.1 from the SD and leave stock intact. So you can boot back and forth. If you do, I recommend the hybrid install here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36668001
It runs more quickly and has more stability. But be warned the instructions can be confusing.
There are no dual boot options that allow you to fully install two systems to internal memory.
And that old Nook Color SD that you used is different than how the Nook HD SD is installed. But you do have to follow directions to get everything to work and fit.
Sent from my Galaxy Tab 2 using XDA Premium

[Q] DIY for emmc-less Rom

My nook hd+ got bricked by the infamous lagfix app.I dont live in the US so I cant replace it. Verygreen made a special sd card install for me that worked on a emmc less system.It worked but since then I am stuck on a single Rom. So can someone please tell me how can I tweak a Rom to work on my emmc less tablet.Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hello my nook hd+ did the same when i run lagfix for the first time on carbon rom. Can you pleas upload the sd card image you have so I can use my Nook because there is no way to return it. I living in Eastern Europe and nook was a present from my brother business trip in USA.
mave2 said:
Hello my nook hd+ did the same when i run lagfix for the first time on carbon rom. Can you pleas upload the sd card image you have so I can use my Nook because there is no way to return it. I living in Eastern Europe and nook was a present from my brother business trip in USA.
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Look at verygreen's post here.
Worked very good i am using 16 GB card and it is nice and smooth. I just wont to ask you can I install CyanogenMod updates the are shown in the menu or they are not for this type SD only system.
mave2 said:
Worked very good i am using 16 GB card and it is nice and smooth. I just wont to ask you can I install CyanogenMod updates the are shown in the menu or they are not for this type SD only system.
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No, the updates are for internal memory only. They will not work on any SD. That is why the OP was asking for some way to convert them to this scheme.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
Another question regarding the Nook hd+ tablets without internal memory, whether the use of the application lagfix / trim can cause more damage and may lead to the inability to boot or damage SD card or SD card controller inside the tablet.
mave2 said:
Another question regarding the Nook hd+ tablets without internal memory, whether the use of the application lagfix / trim can cause more damage and may lead to the inability to boot or damage SD card or SD card controller inside the tablet.
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You should not need lagfix on an SD setup, especially a no-emmc one. And nothing you do should effect the ability to boot from SD.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app

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