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If you are muslim just come and say Salamu Alaikum.."RAMADAN MUBARAK"

As-Salamu Alaykum
RAMADAN MUBARAK
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For all Muslims and all people in the world
I found many muslims here many sent me private messages that they are happy to see a muslim
I know that there are many muslims here so i opened this topic just for having information about each other and so,,,As Allah say that all muslims are brothers in Islam
If you are a muslim let us know about yourself
and all brothers please pray for me,May Allah bless all of you
please,All should know that this topic not opened for discusstion about religions.
It is just to know each other communicate and so...​

I will begin
my name is Mohamed
I'm from Egypt,Mansoura
I study medicine,now I have exams of the 2nd year
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Thanks to Allah,I passed exams with high marks now prepared to the 3rd year
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Now busy with study as exams are near
Don't forget me in your prayer,love all of you in Allah
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Thanks to Allah,I passed exams with high marks now prepared to the 4th year
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Thanks to Allah,I passed exams with high marks now prepared to the 5th year,days running so fast

salaam,
I am muslim and i live here in the states.

Hey guys, this is not the correct forum (XDA) for religious/spiritual point of views and/or preference. Im going to move this to the off topic portion since its not directly related to cell phones, etc.

My father was a service droid.
@mariner_heart:
I don't believe DrForIslam was trying to missionary his religion on to anyone else, so it's not religious per se. It's more, "if you're French, come say Bonjour", which is probably ok.
However, can all humans (and more evolved life forms, carbon based or otherwise), please be cautious not to "attract" unwanted responses - this forum is not partisan regarding religion, other than when it comes to the true question, Windows Mobile or iPhone. So please keep off-topic topics in the off-topic areas, and be cautious about going against the spirit of the board.
Mods and Admins reserve the right to intervene and delete if we think it is for the good of the board. No specific offence intended to anyone's religions or questionable parentage.
V

Hey buddy,
Salaams to all,
I am from India, studying management.
(Why do you{mariner_heart} think that we are shouting religion here!!!)

tjkhattak61:
I'll inform the mods to discuss.
Personally, I don't see that this thread is much less worthy then other Offtopic posts - "Go Boston Celtics!!!", "Are you playing Halo 3 ?? comeon and let us play together" and "Post a Joke Folks".
So long as people have a rational reaction to a rational post (which I paraphrase as "Come along and say hi if you are similar to me"), forum members should be able to show a mature attitude and not turn this into a flame war.
Anyone looking for a fight should walk away and troll the "My Girlfriends' Blackberry Curve" thread.
V

Salam All,
My name is Farhan Ali, born in Saudi Arabia and currently living in Toronto.
As far as my phone goes, well I am using the tytn2 and desperately waiting the HTC Touch Pro to come out. ;-)
Now as for the religion, why are discussions on religion (any religion and just Islam) a big NO NO??? I think we’re all adults here (well most of us);-) and we need to think out side the box. This discussion is no different then any other off topic post on here.
Now with that said Ladies and Gentlemen lets keep this clean and lets get to know each other.
Cheers
Farhan

vijay555 said:
tjkhattak61:
I'll inform the mods to discuss.
Personally, I don't see that this thread is much less worthy then other Offtopic posts - "Go Boston Celtics!!!", "Are you playing Halo 3 ?? comeon and let us play together" and "Post a Joke Folks".
So long as people have a rational reaction to a rational post (which I paraphrase as "Come along and say hi if you are similar to me"), forum members should be able to show a mature attitude and not turn this into a flame war.
Anyone looking for a fight should walk away and troll the "My Girlfriends' Blackberry Curve" thread.
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Lol you are funny VJ, thanks for being open minded.

Salam,
my name is Nader, born in Tunis and currently living in Germany. I´m 20 and I will study English and Politics (Bachelor of Education)
Nice to see some brothers here.

Salam, Muslim from the UK here..
I think its quite alright to have a thread like this. I mean we're just saying hello to fellow brothers, AND the topic is in an offtopic section of the forum.
For those on this forum that are even offended by the word Muslim should just plain sod off.

original topic of this thread was to allow other Muslims to come and greet each other. This forum is NOT THE PLACE for discussing religious differences. Please don't hijack or take the thread off topic or else i'm pretty sure a mod will close it. So don't raise your fingers on other people's belief's; stick to the main topic. If you can't than don't reply, its that simple.
p.s. looks like lukybandit beat me to it but nonetheless same point.
I am a Muslim but i don't think Xda is the spot to tell the christians that they are wrong or for the christians to tell muslims that we are wrong; there are other places on the net where these things can be and should be discussed.
With that said please return to topic of thread and stop going off topic.

thesire said:
original topic of this thread was to allow other Muslims to come and greet each other. This forum is NOT THE PLACE for discussing religious differences. Please don't hijack or take the thread off topic or else i'm pretty sure a mod will close it. So don't raise your fingers on other people's belief's; stick to the main topic. If you can't than don't reply, its that simple.
I am a Muslim but i don't think Xda is the spot to tell the christians that they are wrong or for the christians to tell muslims that we are wrong; there are other places on the net where these things can be and should be discussed.
With that said please return to topic of thread and stop going off topic.
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Assalamu-Alaikum,
Thank you for making that clear. I completely agree with you and it will not be tolerated as this is not the place to do it.
I'm Muslim myself and I personally will delete this thread if anyone goes off-topic.
Please Co-operate. You've been warned.
Thanks for your co-operation.
Regards,
lukybandit

thesire said:
original topic of this thread was to allow other Muslims to come and greet each other. This forum is NOT THE PLACE for discussing religious differences. Please don't hijack or take the thread off topic or else i'm pretty sure a mod will close it. So don't raise your fingers on other people's belief's; stick to the main topic. If you can't than don't reply, its that simple.
p.s. looks like lukybandit beat me to it but nonetheless same point.
I am a Muslim but i don't think Xda is the spot to tell the christians that they are wrong or for the christians to tell muslims that we are wrong; there are other places on the net where these things can be and should be discussed.
With that said please return to topic of thread and stop going off topic.
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Assalamu-Alaikum
I am extremly sorry for starting a religious agrument on the thread. I shoudn't have done that. Again i apologise. And thanks for reminding me.
Sincearly,
SpeedBlaster

cjmedina, please read and abide the rules.
I agree with what you said in your 2nd part in regards to the corruption to the man but this is not the topic on hand.
Please refrain from doing so. I'm trying to be fair to everyone.
Final Warning to Everyone
If this continues, I will delete this thread because this is not the place to do this.
drIslam - please edit your signature accordingly as this is a phone's forum and not a religion-based forum.
Thanks for your co-operation.

[email protected] said:
Assalamu-Alaikum
I am extremly sorry for starting a religious agrument on the thread. I shoudn't have done that. Again i apologise. And thanks for reminding me.
Sincearly,
SpeedBlaster
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Apology accepted.
Thanks for your co-operation.

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Apology accepted.
Thanks for your co-operation.
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Thanks, Lukybandit.

Assalam O Alikum

Thanks to all brothers who enter the thread and to all moderators about being open minded
Other members the topic not opened for any discusstions about your or my religion

Salamu Alaikom warahmatullah wabarakatu.....

I'm back!

Hell yeah, I'm back. Just finished my exam a few hours ago, had dinner with a ferw friends, and first thing I do when I get home, XDA!
Alright, my first click on the thanks button will go the person who can summarize, in as few words as possible, in the funniest possible way, what happened in OT since I was gone.
You may now begin.

Well the random image thread started and it's cool, the three word story has a user with underwear on and something written on it. And someone broke up, and also some repeat threads which were thrown out. And all sort of android vs apple fights. Android won. Chuck Norris thread started with bang but died down early, daily laugh is still holding on with boring jokes.
Someone started a thread what will u do if u had million dollar, man I would do nothing if I had that money. Also someone is finding best potato chips. Male Female thread started to find all girls on xda no luck.
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Premium App

^^ He wins..deservedly so too. Nice summation.
Welcome back S4E, nice to see you again

sakai4eva said:
Hell yeah, I'm back.
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OH NOEZ!
Spam Incoming............
wb

conantroutman said:
OH NOEZ!
Spam Incoming............
wb
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I, sir, do not spam. Much.

Now. For the answer to the question we all want to know. Did you pass your exams with the highest score in the class?
I didn't write that. Prove it!!!

Babydoll25 said:
Now. For the answer to the question we all want to know. Did you pass your exams with the highest score in the class?
I didn't write that. Prove it!!!
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Results out in August. Praying... praying... praying...

Summary of what happened?
Don't remember if Llama left before you, but also, the usual. Noobs spamming, calling us assholes, stuff like that.
O yea, and welcome back. Hope you sharpened your knives for the noobocalypse.

Don't pray so much, still there's so much time. You will annoy the Gods.
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Premium App

jaszek said:
Summary of what happened?
Don't remember if Llama left before you, but also, the usual. Noobs spamming, calling us assholes, stuff like that.
O yea, and welcome back. Hope you sharpened your knives for the noobocalypse.
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He left on 23-5 when did Llama leave?
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4silvertooth said:
Well the random image thread started and it's cool, the three word story has a user with underwear on and something written on it. And someone broke up, and also some repeat threads which were thrown out. And all sort of android vs apple fights. Android won. Chuck Norris thread started with bang but died down early, daily laugh is still holding on with boring jokes.
Someone started a thread what will u do if u had million dollar, man I would do nothing if I had that money. Also someone is finding best potato chips. Male Female thread started to find all girls on xda no luck.
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Premium App
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That summoned it up nicely!!

4silvertooth said:
Well the random image thread started and it's cool, the three word story has a user with underwear on and something written on it. And someone broke up, and also some repeat threads which were thrown out. And all sort of android vs apple fights. Android won. Chuck Norris thread started with bang but died down early, daily laugh is still holding on with boring jokes.
Someone started a thread what will u do if u had million dollar, man I would do nothing if I had that money. Also someone is finding best potato chips. Male Female thread started to find all girls on xda no luck.
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Premium App
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Wasn't funny the first time, but sure as hell is now.
I can sum it up in infinite words, people going off topic in Off-topic, which means that they are actually in fact staying on topic while in Off-topic because their post is off topic in Off-topic, but by posting in Off-topic, it automatically qualifies their post as off topic, but by going off topic in Off-topic, which means that they are actually in fact staying on topic while in Off-topic because their post is off topic in Off-topic, but by posting in Off-topic, it automatically qualifies their post as off topic, but by going off topic in Off-topic, which means that they are actually in fact staying on topic while in Off-topic because their post is off topic in Off-topic, but by posting in Off-topic, it automatically qualifies their post as off topic, but by going off topic in Off-topic, which means that they are actually in fact staying on topic while in Off-topic because their post is off topic in Off-topic, but by posting in Off-topic, it automatically qualifies their post as off topic, but by going off topic in Off-topic, which means that they are actually in fact staying on topic while in Off-topic because their post is off topic in Off-topic, but by posting in Off-topic, it automatically qualifies their post as off topic, but by going off topic in Off-topic, which means that they are actually in fact staying on topic while in Off-topic because their post is off topic in Off-topic, but by posting in Off-topic, it automatically qualifies their post as off topic, but by going off topic in Off-topic, which means that they are actually in fact staying on topic while in Off-topic because their post is off topic in Off-topic, but by posting in Off-topic, it automatically qualifies their post as off topic, but by going off topic in Off-topic, which means that they are actually in fact staying on topic while in Off-topic because their post is off topic in Off-topic, but by posting in Off-topic, it automatically qualifies their post as off topic, but by going off topic in Off-topic, which means that they are actually in fact staying on topic while in Off-topic because their post is off topic in Off-topic, but by posting in Off-topic, it automatically qualifies their post as off topic, but by going off topic in Off-topic, which means that they are actually in fact staying on topic while in Off-topic because their post is off topic in Off-topic, but by posting in Off-topic, it automatically qualifies their post as off topic, but by OMG THE SPIDERS!!!

OMG THE SPIDERS
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O....k
Wrong thread mate.....
This is the link you need to go to for posting pics
DirkGently1 said:
OMG THE SPIDERS
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M_T_M said:
O....k
Wrong thread mate.....
This is the link you need to go to for posting pics
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did you even read the last 3 words of sakai's post?

husam666 said:
did you even read the last 3 words of sakai's post?
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We'll let him off this time... but next time the spider gets sent to his house!

On topic... welcome back mate *M_T_M avoids accusation of thread jacking..hehehe, suckers* in Homer's voice
@hussam...quit killing my trolling mojo you fool of a took
husam666 said:
did you even read the last 3 words of sakai's post?
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Did you even clicked on the link on my post?
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We'll let him off this time... but next time the spider gets sent to his house!
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M_T_M said:
On topic... welcome back mate *M_T_M avoids accusation of thread jacking..hehehe, suckers* in Homer's voice
@hussam...quit killing my trolling mojo you fool of a took
Did you even clicked on the link on my post?
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sry it's in my blood
and no

You fools! I have returned, and the forum shall epicly fap to my greatness. Bow down, or kneel, if that's to your taste. I don't mind either way, really.

sakai4eva said:
You fools! I have returned, and the forum shall epicly fap to my greatness. Bow down, or kneel, if that's to your taste. I don't mind either way, really.
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if you want men to fap when they see you, you need to go to iphone developers!!
a$$hole

Moderators moving treads all over the place

OK I am fairly new here, But I can now see why alot of people are leaving this forum and going to others. One main gripe i have is moderators up and moving posts all over the place. Ill be coming back to check a post and then all of a sudden its gone? no idea where it went have to dig through 20 topics to find it. lots of this going on as of late.
Not to mention some of my own posts moved for no reason, well at least not ones that make sence. Had one moved from general to off topic why? my post was a general post about tblet and phone things it wasent an off topic post.
also had a post for the acer iconia a500 moved from the acer iconis a500 forum becasue it was a question??? Um would not people looking for questions and answers about the iconia go look in that section? No ones gonna go to the q&a section to look for my acer iconia spacific topic. makes no sence that it was moved.
I have noticed a few devs have also abandoned xda becasue of the silliness here and moved to other forums.
OK so let me know where your gonna move this topic too ok I put it in off topic sooo. I guess im not off topic enough?

Everything ends up in OT eventually.
General section is more general and relates to some "useful" or "serious" information or discussion. OT is mainly meta topics or spam parties or jokes or happy-fun time.
Questions are ALWAYS in Q&A section, unless the question is not a question and is more of a rant.
Did I answer you enough?
p/s: Don't mess with the mods.

sakai4eva said:
Everything ends up in OT eventually.
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There's a singularity around here somewhere, sucking everything in. Once you cross the event horizon there is no escape. We are the XDA flotsam

DirkGently1 said:
There's a singularity around here somewhere, sucking everything in. Once you cross the even horizon there is no escape. We are the XDA flotsam
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Have we reached critical mass yet? Can we do time travel?

sakai4eva said:
Have we reached critical mass yet? Can we do time travel?
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Not yet I'm afraid.... Some say next year, 2012
...aes eht rednu
peed morf tneS

If your post/thread was moved most likely it was rightly so. Devs are not leaving XDA because of threads are being mved...devs are leaving because of many reasons, one being noobs posting in Dev when they should not be. We are very strict when it comes to where something goes...and soon to be more strict. We have a method to our madness...if you are confident that something you have posted was in the right area, I would suggest sending a PM to your forum moderator. You can find the list in my sig if you are not sure who that is.

And to add to the TRM post....if a MOD moved any thread, an automated PM is sent to the OP of such thread sooooooo, your accusation/rant/complain is futile and irrelevant
I call for closing this thread...question has been answered already and as Apu says: "Thank you, come again!!"

M_T_M said:
And to add to the TRM post....if a MOD moved any thread, an automated PM is sent to the OP of such thread sooooooo, your accusation/rant/complain is futile and irrelevant
I call for closing this thread...question has been answered already and as Apu says: "Thank you, come again!!"
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Agreed. Thread closed.
To the OP: If the thread was moved, it was most likely ill-placed to begin with. If you have a particular instance in which you believe your thread was moved in error, PM me the URL to the thread and I will look into it.

[Q] Why won't the Xperia TX get its own sub-forum?

I searched, but the only result from the forum was a thread about suggesting a TX sub-forum, and the rest of the results were just random XDA articles about the TX.
I ask, because one of the admins/mods just closed a thread without any explanation as to why it was an issue. All he/she said was:
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Xperia
TX
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Keep scrolling a tad more....
Just a little bit more.....
Almost there...
Thread closed.
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...which is incredibly unhelpful. That response was the reason I started this thread. Can someone other than that person please explain?

That response says it all, and if you read that thread it is explained fully
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Sony Flagship device circa 2145

I don't see why you want a sub forum?
doing that will shrink the already scarce developers for the phone, where as Ive seen on the MAJORITY of threads ive read, the developer is happy to modify for TX

I don't necessarily need a sub-forum for it myself. I'm just wondering why bringing it up is akin to asking to murder a child on xda forums.
That admin/mod could have explained why it's a bad idea (even with a copy and paste) and then closed the thread. Instead I just sense a lot of antagonism directed at the people who posted in that thread.

Go back to the closed thread, read it again, every post at least 3 times, and maybe you will understand why it has been closed. As Greg already said, it is explained in the thread.
Now you can either keep spamming this thread with an already closed issue, or read and try to understand.
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SeventeenV said:
I searched, but the only result from the forum was a thread about suggesting a TX sub-forum, and the rest of the results were just random XDA articles about the TX.
I ask, because one of the admins/mods just closed a thread without any explanation as to why it was an issue. All he/she said was:
...which is incredibly unhelpful. That response was the reason I started this thread. Can someone other than that person please explain?
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Actually that very same person already explained the reason:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37119890&postcount=36

Why we do not have subforum ?
Why we do not have JB update ?
BECAUSE !!!!
So why do you bought TX ?
That's the question !
Stop crying !

OP first this thread moved to the correct location...Questions in the Q&A...
As outlined by others, some homework from the thread you questioned, would of gotten you the answers, hence not needing to open a new thread. Moral of the story, search #1 Rule...and #15 also of the Forum Rules. Thanks.

A Friendly Reminder From The Mods Regarding Newcomers and Threads in OT

Hello Everybody,
We would like to remind everyone in this forum that even though this is the off topic section and we like to have fun and joke around, that the forum rules still apply here. As of late there has been a lot of "trolling" of new members, or newcomers to OT, and especially new threads posted here in the off topic section. This is something that needs to stop. Here at XDA we are an open forum and any member is more than welcome to post where they choose to (assuming of course that they aren't spamming up a dev thread with questions etc etc). As with any forum if you see a thread that needs to be closed use the report button. Also, as with any other forum unless you have something to contribute to the topic of the thread in a friendly way please do not post in that thread. As cliche as this sounds it remains true. "If you have nothing nice to say it is wise to say nothing at all."
What may seem as a harmless joke to you may come off as rude or offensive to a member that doesn't know you or understand the fact that you mean what you say as joke and nothing more. If you want to "troll" stick to joking around with your friends that way no one mis-interprets your posts as an attack on them personally. Members of XDA deserve to have peace of mind when posting in OT and at the moment they do not have that luxury. Violators of this rule will be considered spamming and your posts will be deleted without any prior notice. Repeat offenders will be dealt with according to XDA rules.
To give you some recent examples of why were are saying this please look at the threads linked below
[Q] Chair Type
The Longest Sentence
How Do You Shave Your Legs
iOS7 Discussion
Girls on Xda
The last one was by far the worst!
I know this seems like we may be picking on you but please understand this is not the case. This is the type of behavior we expect from each and every member on XDA no matter the forum. To all members who do choose to violate this rule, if we have to, the moderation team will hand down official warnings and infractions or even bans if necessary. Remember this is the last thing we want to do. We only want anyone and everyone that wants to join in on the fun of the Off Topic section to get their chance to do so without feeling like they are not welcomed in the section. Here at XDA we are all one big family so lets act like it.:angel:
So lets sum this up for everyone. These are not suggestions but these are the rules here on XDA!!!
No more "IBTL" posts.... instead please use the report button. That is what it is for
No more "GTFO NOOB" posts... if you ignore them they will leave you in peace.
This is a public forum and therefore all threads are public too. You may not decide who can post in a given thread, if you want a private members club start a social group.
No more spamming/trolling new threads! Only post if you have something to contribute to the topic. Anyone who wants a chance at having a thread in OT deserves a chance to have one of their own and its not up to you all to decide what stays and what goes :highfive:
Cheers Mates :victory:
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Thanks, the trolls in the bad threads are worse than the thread itself, imo

Ahh Alright... BTW why isn't this thread locked ?
EDIT While you guys are here, could you basically define Off Topic? I mean, we have something completely off topic and that's in no way related to XDA and there is some "off topic" that somewhat related, like tech stuff. Currently there is a bit of confusion over this that brings a lot "spam" over here.

ak700 said:
Ahh Alright... BTW why isn't this thread locked ?
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Because there are undoubtedly going to be some questions about this and a little discussion (serious discussion mind you) goes a long way.

This is all really silly.
I actually saw the iOS7 thread from your link and wow, I would've loved to just discuss the operating system without anyone saying "Apple sucks Android 5ever hahahaha if you think iOS is worth talking about you're wrong omg!"
Because while I like to be silly (and poke fun at apple) at the appropriate times, I also like to have deep and meaningful conversations about electronics and whatnot without having a fanboy come up and start a pointless argument.
and some people (no one in specific) need to cut their... stuff they're doing with the "Inb4 lock" and whatnot. It doesn't add to the conversation, it doesn't help the OP if the OP is asking a question, and it basically does nothing productive. If you think a thread should be locked/is spam, report it and move on.

estabien said:
This is all really silly.
I actually saw the iOS7 thread from your link and wow, I would've loved to just discuss the operating system without anyone saying "Apple sucks Android 5ever hahahaha if you think iOS is worth talking about you're wrong omg!"
Because while I like to be silly (and poke fun at apple) at the appropriate times, I also like to have deep and meaningful conversations about electronics and whatnot without having a fanboy come up and start a pointless argument.
and some people (no one in specific) need to cut their... stuff they're doing with the "Inb4 lock" and whatnot. It doesn't add to the conversation, it doesn't help the OP if the OP is asking a question, and it basically does nothing productive. If you think a thread should be locked/is spam, report it and move on.
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THIS. Summed up my though process whenever I see a thread "trolled'

ak700 said:
EDIT While you guys are here, could you basically define Off Topic? I mean, we have something completely off topic and that's in no way related to XDA and there is some "off topic" that somewhat related, like tech stuff. Currently there is a bit of confusion over this that brings a lot "spam" over here.
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Anything not related to the devices or development for them. This however is not the appropriate time for a "what is OT?" discussion or "My (insert device here) off topic thread relates to the device and should be moved back to that forum" discussion.
This is about making sure that the off topic forum is accessible to all without being needlessly trolled or made to feel in any way unwelcome.

Hmm okay Points noted :good::good: (No sarcasm)
That means no more Lulz?

Seraz007 said:
Hmm okay Points noted :good::good: (No sarcasm)
That means no more Lulz?
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Not true at all. No one wants to take the fun away. We just ask that you respect the rules and don't have your fun at the expense of others or their threads
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mark manning said:
Not true at all. No one wants to take the fun away. We just ask that you respect the rules and don't have your fun at the expense of others or their threads
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umm okay then...:good:

Ironically ibtl posts were always a no no afair. Thanks for reclarifying this issue.
This is a good thread. I can see some thinking this sucks but when mods post threads like this it actually shows they care about their site. I could mention a few other forums where they don't.
Nice write up.
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Certainly excellent points. It's gotten a little out of hand lately. Admittedly the amount of new users who can't bloody read has also gotten out of hand. (Which makes me wonder, isn't it possible to simply disable the posting permissions for <10 posts users in OT (and General)? That way they can still read, just not post. Would save us all a lot of time, irritation and trouble, not to mention the mods a lot of work of both deleting the posts and keeping everyone else from trolling.)
The problem is that most people seem to be somewhat confused as to the difference between 'fun' and 'trolling'. And there's also a difference between clever/funny trolling (which even the mods do from time to time), and outright offensive trolling so obvious even my sociopathic brain finds it pathetic...
You can be clever without being a total arse. (Yes, I know, being nice isn't my speciality either.) Nobody said we can't have fun. But bullying the new kids is exactly the behavior we all hated to have directed towards us in school.
But the Girls on XDA thread wasn't that bad before it was moved to off topic. After the move there were more deleted posts than remaining posts xD

ShadowLea said:
Certainly excellent points. It's gotten a little out of hand lately. Admittedly the amount of new users who can't bloody read has also gotten out of hand. (Which makes me wonder, isn't it possible to simply disable the posting permissions for <10 posts users in OT (and General)? That way they can still read, just not post. Would save us all a lot of time, irritation and trouble, not to mention the mods a lot of work of both deleting the posts and keeping everyone else from trolling.)
The problem is that most people seem to be somewhat confused as to the difference between 'fun' and 'trolling'. And there's also a difference between clever/funny trolling (which even the mods do from time to time), and outright offensive trolling so obvious even my sociopathic brain finds it pathetic...
You can be clever without being a total arse. (Yes, I know, being nice isn't my speciality either.) Nobody said we can't have fun. But bullying the new kids is exactly the behavior we all hated to have directed towards us in school.
But the Girls on XDA thread wasn't that bad before it was moved to off topic. After the move there were more deleted posts than remaining posts xD
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With regards to the 10 post rule, I'd like to make this clear as it seems that it really isn't. There is no rule stating that you can't get your first 10 posts in the Off-topic forum. There's obviously a rule about spamming, and that applies here as well. So, someone posting "Hi" 10 times in the "Say Hi" thread is spamming, but someone posting in there to say hello and then engaging in conversation in other threads is not. I really don't know why there's such a beef about new people posting in OT, other than people misunderstanding the request made a while back to not spam.
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Now that's out in public I shall rest
And with regards to the girls' thread, it's that exact type of thread that we're trying to help here, hence it being mentioned in the first post. Sometimes trolling is funny, yeah, but sometimes it's just disrespectful, and that's what I personally dislike seeing.

**** just got real, Offtopic just got more serious. This is like moving from the Attitude era to the PG13 era :silly:

Just want to throw my tuppence in this here hat.
I agree with most of what has been said in the op and other comments. @ShadowLea comment about people not reading is true enough, as moderators how many times have you locked a thread someone has opened to post a video, or a picture etc? Only for them to open yet another thread to say 'WTF'? Ok so a lot of us plow in and spam the thread, this is done because most of the time an existing thread that has been going for a long time is only a couple of lines away. It's our way of reminding people that just because this is ot doesn't mean the search button was left at the door.
People with less than ten posts do get a raw deal in ot i admit, since I've been registered with xda the the ten posts issue has always been present as an understanding that users try to make 10 useful posts. People that make their all of their first ten posts inside of ot cannot be deemed to have made 10 useful posts. Ten posts isn't hard, even if it's in the form of a question. The answers to a simple question can be useful for someone with the same issue, using search.
A lot of the more respected and older OT regulars come here to chat with like minded people away from the constant barrage of pm's and questions from new users in their device threads, i actually have a lot of respect for quite a few people in here for maintaining as much calm as they do. Recently I've noticed that there has been a lot of posts that even by my "low" standards has gone way over what is acceptable, this really does have to stop. Users here are getting younger and younger, we tend to forget this because all we see is the avatar and words on a screen.
Imma gonna stop there as even i feel that im waffling about this again ( :thumbup take what points you want from the above, it's just my opinions nothing more.
Yours
Glenn
Never interrupt me when I'm eating a banana.
Ryan Stiles

jugg1es said:
Just want to throw my tuppence in this here hat.
I agree with most of what has been said in the op and other comments. @ShadowLea comment about people not reading is true enough, as moderators how many times have you locked a thread someone has opened to post a video, or a picture etc? Only for them to open yet another thread to say 'WTF'? Ok so a lot of us plow in and spam the thread, this is done because most of the time an existing thread that has been going for a long time is only a couple of lines away. It's our way of reminding people that just because this is ot doesn't mean the search button was left at the door.
People with less than ten posts do get a raw deal in ot i admit, since I've been registered with xda the the ten posts issue has always been present as an understanding that users try to make 10 useful posts. People that make their all of their first ten posts inside of ot cannot be deemed to have made 10 useful posts. Ten posts isn't hard, even if it's in the form of a question. The answers to a simple question can be useful for someone with the same issue, using search.
A lot of the more respected and older OT regulars come here to chat with like minded people away from the constant barrage of pm's and questions from new users in their device threads, i actually have a lot of respect for quite a few people in here for maintaining as much calm as they do. Recently I've noticed that there has been a lot of posts that even by my "low" standards has gone way over what is acceptable, this really does have to stop. Users here are getting younger and younger, we tend to forget this because all we see is the avatar and words on a screen.
Imma gonna stop there as even i feel that im waffling about this again ( :thumbup take what points you want from the above, it's just my opinions nothing more.
Yours
Glenn
Never interrupt me when I'm eating a banana.
Ryan Stiles
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Second that to the very last full stop.
Good description of what is happening atm, but what exactly would you like to happen?
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undercover said:
Second that to the very last full stop.
Good description of what is happening atm, but what exactly would you like to happen?
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I haven't thought that far too be honest, i read the posts and just started waffling which generally means i have more than a passing interest in saying what I'm thinking.
Never interrupt me when I'm eating a banana.
Ryan Stiles

jugg1es said:
I haven't thought that far too be honest, i read the posts and just started waffling which generally means i have more than a passing interest in saying what I'm thinking.
Never interrupt me when I'm eating a banana.
Ryan Stiles
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Gotcha. I'll be eagerly waiting for more. :thumbup:
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Archer said:
With regards to the 10 post rule, I'd like to make this clear as it seems that it really isn't. There is no rule stating that you can't get your first 10 posts in the Off-topic forum. There's obviously a rule about spamming, and that applies here as well. So, someone posting "Hi" 10 times in the "Say Hi" thread is spamming, but someone posting in there to say hello and then engaging in conversation in other threads is not. I really don't know why there's such a beef about new people posting in OT, other than people misunderstanding the request made a while back to not spam.
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Some of my first 10 posts were probably in Off Topic, and they probably weren't all useful. But they never consisted of simply "Lol" or "I agree" or "Hi!" or "Hahaha". Or worse, as @jugg1es says, threads about 'see this picture' or 'look at this video'. Especially when the destined thread for it is on the bloody first page!.
Those are the issue. If someone makes a decent contribution, they're not doing anything wrong, and they don't get trolled. (much.).
It's not the best solution, and I doubt it's even good idea, but this is exactly why many forums have an age minimum. (I believe we have some seriously good developers that are under 15, though. They are the exceptions that prove the rule.)
It doesn't matter how many rules or threads about rules we have. Fact is that only about 2% of new users actually reads the rules, even if you wave it in their faces. Hell, even if you made it a "must scroll to the end to select yes" thing some EULA's have, they'd still just scroll and ignore it.
The only people who really know the rules are those of us who point them out to the people that break them.

I couldn't agree more with a lot of the points being raised here. Even though I haven't been a regular in this forum for a while now, the issue which this thread refers to was an issue then and probably ever since the Off-Topic forum was even created. As I haven't been around here recently, I can't really say whether this issue has gotten worse recently (although I guess it must've done to require a thread such as this to be needed) but, as we're all aware, most of the time it hasn't really been a bad thing and has simply been a bit of harmless trolling.
The point ShadowLea made above about people not reading the rules is, again, something we're all more than aware of and blindingly obvious that it's the main reason why any ideas such as this, however good they look "on paper", will only do so much. The only true solution, that I can think of, would be changes to the actual sign up process.
I haven't really got the ideas on such changes or even if they'd be made but I see it as the only way to stop such problems from manifesting like they have.
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