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Z & ZL

Heya. Can everyone tell me the differences between Sony XperiaZ and ZL ?
I wanna buy one of them and im still not sure which one to pick. Im reffering to the looks, performance, camera, everything.
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ZL is a bit smaller. It has camera button and IR blaster.
Z is waterproof, while ZL is not. Z has full glass body, with ZL having textured-plastic back.
Same hardware, same specs otherwise.
Can't really think of any other important differences ( if there are any at all )

Also the ZL has a 40 mAh larger battery.

Hacker4748 said:
Also the ZL has a 40 mAh larger battery.
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But at the same time less standby/talk time for some reason.

PixeLuL said:
Heya. Can everyone tell me the differences between Sony XperiaZ and ZL ?
I wanna buy one of them and im still not sure which one to pick. Im reffering to the looks, performance, camera, everything.
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Just google it bro
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also the XZL is cheaper than the XZ

SteConer said:
also the XZL is cheaper than the XZ
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Has that been confirmed ?

Akiainavas said:
ZL is a bit smaller. It has camera button and IR blaster.
Z is waterproof, while ZL is not. Z has full glass body, with ZL having textured-plastic back.
Same hardware, same specs otherwise.
Can't really think of any other important differences ( if there are any at all )
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z is thinner (but larger end wider)

Incidentally I think it was a mistake to make the Z waterproof and not the ZL. Lots of people are going to get confused and damage their ZL with water. They should either have made it water-proof or given it another letter.

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thank you dude!

[Q] Xperia T worth buying now?

My last phone was a Xperia Arc (loved it, only issue was low RAM), I lost it and now I need a replacement. I need a cheap android WITH MHL or HDMI port. I came across Xperia T for 240€, which is good enough for me. I know every phone has its issues, so I ask you if you think this would be a good choice. Im suprised at how "cheap" it is with such a fancy camera and other specs (which I dont really need), but I cant find a decent phone that has TV-OUT within this price range.

LuckyStriker33 said:
My last phone was a Xperia Arc (loved it, only issue was low RAM), I lost it and now I need a replacement. I need a cheap android WITH MHL or HDMI port. I came across Xperia T for 240€, which is good enough for me. I know every phone has its issues, so I ask you if you think this would be a good choice. Im suprised at how "cheap" it is with such a fancy camera and other specs (which I dont really need), but I cant find a decent phone that has TV-OUT within this price range.
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I suggest taking the Xperia V. It's a little smaller (an advantage imo) and waterproof ^^
By the way it also has LTE support, if that matters for your region
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WhiteNeo said:
I suggest taking the Xperia V. It's a little smaller (an advantage imo) and waterproof ^^
By the way it also has LTE support, if that matters for your region
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Im looking into it and I like it. Do you know if it has the same issues as Xperia T ("sudden death")?
Thanks for your advice.

LuckyStriker33 said:
Im looking into it and I like it. Do you know if it has the same issues as Xperia T ("sudden death")?
Thanks for your advice.
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Sudden death has been fixed with jelly bean update.
Anytime mate ^^
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Internals are almost identical, but...
Xperia V is waterproof, and is smaller, and is having removable battery.
Xperia T is having bigger display, is better looking (this is subjective of course), and is having doubled internal memory.
Comparing them side by side...
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4958&idPhone2=4899
...you'll notice that Xperia V appears to be slightly taller and thinner, and this is where Xperia T gets my voice for being prettier.
They are actually the same height, but V is 2,3mm thinner, and bezels appear bigger.
I was in the same dilemma three months ago, when I sold my Xperia Arc S, and I chose Xperia T, and honestly, I love this phone.
It's sexy, nicely built, and Jelly Bean is working quite good out of the box. This is the first phone that I haven't armed with some custom ROM.
It all comes down to personal taste really, when choosing between T and V. Some will say V, some will say T.
I say check some reviews, some videos, and make your own decision. Never ask for suggestion on public forums.

LuckyStriker33 said:
My last phone was a Xperia Arc (loved it, only issue was low RAM), I lost it and now I need a replacement. I need a cheap android WITH MHL or HDMI port. I came across Xperia T for 240€, which is good enough for me. I know every phone has its issues, so I ask you if you think this would be a good choice. Im suprised at how "cheap" it is with such a fancy camera and other specs (which I dont really need), but I cant find a decent phone that has TV-OUT within this price range.
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Xperia T is better and way better than the Xperia V, while the Xperia V is waterproof

AndroidHoneyComb said:
Xperia T is better and way better than the Xperia V, while the Xperia V is waterproof
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Is the T worth buying? Not really. The Xperia Z is in the same price range as the Xperia T (around $350) on eBay AU

SammiSaysHello said:
Is the T worth buying? Not really. The Xperia Z is in the same price range as the Xperia T (around $350) on eBay AU
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But the Xperia T is much cheaper, but the Nexus 5 > Xperia Z due to the specs of nexus 5 and it being 300 somthinmg

SammiSaysHello said:
Is the T worth buying? Not really. The Xperia Z is in the same price range as the Xperia T (around $350) on eBay AU
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ehm, no..., but...maybe in Australia :silly:
Im in Germany, and the XT is some sort of a really cheap nice deal, and its not same prized like the XZ. You pay nearly 100euro more for the XZ
You can get the XT round about 230euro +/-
But whatever, best argument for the XT is the look and feel and the displaysize-hardwaresize relation, better than on the XV.
And we have omnirom support, another good argument, if you like flashing custom roms

[Q] Next Sony Flagship Device

So we've all seen the leaked images of the Sony D6503 Sirius . Is this device going to be the next Xperia Z, in other words the 1st half of the year flagship device ? Only then to be replaced by a replacement of the Xperia Z1 in the 2nd half of the year ?
I've come to the conclusion that the 2nd half of the year models are generally better, they have refined all the mistakes in the earlier model. For example they made the Z waterproof but we were stuck with flaps for the headphone jack, no camera button and an early dock connector. They corrected all these things in the Z1. If I remember correctly they did the same thing with the Xperia S and T. The 1st half of the year flagship take a big jump in design and features but can be a little rough around the edges , the 2nd half devices are more finished in my opinion.
I've have the Xperia S and now the Z. I'm wanting to jump onto the 2nd half of the year devices (Not buy 2 handsets in one year). Thats why i'm curious is the new Sirius early flagship or the late one ?
Does anyone else agree with my thoughts on this ?

RE: Next Sony Flagship Device
well according to the rumors, it looks like a marginal upgrade from z1 but it still sports the same soc and camera and very similar hardware design. personally i do not see a reason to uograde

defsix said:
So we've all seen the leaked images of the Sony D6503 Sirius . Is this device going to be the next Xperia Z, in other words the 1st half of the year flagship device ? Only then to be replaced by a replacement of the Xperia Z1 in the 2nd half of the year ?
I've come to the conclusion that the 2nd half of the year models are generally better, they have refined all the mistakes in the earlier model. For example they made the Z waterproof but we were stuck with flaps for the headphone jack, no camera button and an early dock connector. They corrected all these things in the Z1. If I remember correctly they did the same thing with the Xperia S and T. The 1st half of the year flagship take a big jump in design and features but can be a little rough around the edges , the 2nd half devices are more finished in my opinion.
I've have the Xperia S and now the Z. I'm wanting to jump onto the 2nd half of the year devices (Not buy 2 handsets in one year). Thats why i'm curious is the new Sirius early flagship or the late one ?
Does anyone else agree with my thoughts on this ?
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I'm more curious to know, if all the new apps will be available to the old Xperia Z Series. I had Smart Backlight and Motion Control on my old Galaxy SII.....

Vivoin3d said:
I'm more curious to know, if all the new apps will be available to the old Xperia Z Series. I had Smart Backlight and Motion Control on my old Galaxy SII.....
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What usually happens is, in this case, everything before the Z will be left behind in the next major update. But.. this could change anytime of course with KitKat being a lighter OS version than previous allowing for weaker handsets to still perform with new updates.
Yes. I want all the new apps on my Z now, i'm sick of installing ports from newer devices to my current device that isn't even 12 months old !

ziich said:
well according to the rumors, it looks like a marginal upgrade from z1 but it still sports the same soc and camera and very similar hardware design. personally i do not see a reason to uograde
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Would you be upgrading from the Z or Z1 ?

from the z i will not upgrade until i see a 32gb variant with smaller bezels but that is just me

What good is having up to date hardware when it's not even optimized software-wise?
#cameraofz1 #justpracticingmyhashtaggingskills
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No. Sirius is just a Z1 refresh. The true next flagship will come later...

the true next flagship phone will crack next gen boundaries
software and hardware and it will come in at a affordable price

Yeah... I don't really want to upgrade to the Z1 because the bezel is bigger. They need to keep it the same size as the Z in future phones.

For me, Z still rules... Z1 is too big!
Sent from my Xperia Z

alexpraga said:
For me, Z still rules... Z1 is too big!
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Yeah, when I got the Z I said it was big enough. But my Z is not wearing the best, the paint has worn off on the corners. An aluminium bezel would resist this better I think.
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Felimenta97 said:
No. Sirius is just a Z1 refresh. The true next flagship will come later...
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But would you call it the 1st half of the year flagship device?
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It does not give any ROI buying the phone now because the S800 finishing its life span in terms of the king of the benchmark. I am waiting for snapdragon 805 that is because it graphics benefit and it would be " future proof" because it is 64 bit. I am pretty sure that Qualcomm is going finishing the support for it because successor of the kitkat would be 64 bit so it will be a good excuse to just abandon devices business is business

marcoplo said:
It does not give any ROI buying the phone now because the S800 finishing its life span in terms of the king of the benchmark. I am waiting for snapdragon 805 that is because it graphics benefit and it would be " future proof" because it is 64 bit. I am pretty sure that Qualcomm is going finishing the support for it because successor of the kitkat would be 64 bit so it will be a good excuse to just abandon devices business is business
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Erm, S805 isn't 64 bits, and there is no info Android 4.5 or 5.0 or whatever will be 64 bits...
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the Z was the first proper flagship phone from Sony. Waterproof features and all.
It was the first and there were many lessons learnt from it. ie: flaps, display, bezel etc etc
Thus, come the Z1 which address the issues above (earphones without flaps, magnetic cable charging without opening flap, etc)
Hence, I would think the changes to the new phone itself would be marginal. be it Z2 or Z3 etc.
Even in the looks dept, there wouldnt be much difference because Sony is taking the Omnidesign as the core
The difference would be in the hardware spec IMO
But I seriously hope the camera would be improved cos we have the hardware for it.
I'm still hoping there will be Red for the new phone. I would move if there's Red. if not I might think twice about "upgrading" from Z to Z2

adamtan said:
the Z was the first proper flagship phone from Sony. Waterproof features and all.
It was the first and there were many lessons learnt from it. ie: flaps, display, bezel etc etc
Thus, come the Z1 which address the issues above (earphones without flaps, magnetic cable charging without opening flap, etc)
Hence, I would think the changes to the new phone itself would be marginal. be it Z2 or Z3 etc.
Even in the looks dept, there wouldnt be much difference because Sony is taking the Omnidesign as the core
The difference would be in the hardware spec IMO
But I seriously hope the camera would be improved cos we have the hardware for it.
I'm still hoping there will be Red for the new phone. I would move if there's Red. if not I might think twice about "upgrading" from Z to Z2
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Its the Z3 i'm waiting for so!

Felimenta97 said:
Erm, S805 isn't 64 bits, and there is no info Android 4.5 or 5.0 or whatever will be 64 bits...
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Ok my bad:silly:, adreno improvement are interesting

[Q] Still worth it?

So, I'm looking for an upgrade to my ages old Xperia Ray.
With Xperia Z2 now out, and Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1 compact priced less than $50 higher than the Xperia Z. Is it still a good grab?
I've been in this dilemma since quite a couple of days now.. I saw the Z in a store and found it the best size. I know Z1 might feel a little awkward coming from a 3.3 Xperia Ray(its bigger than Z), and I just don't like the bezels on Xperia Z1 Compact. My other options are HTC One and LG G2. But I don't trust LG as a brand.
So back to the point, is Xperia Z still a good buy over the Z1 and Z1 compact? and why?

htc one

KyleSforza said:
So, I'm looking for an upgrade to my ages old Xperia Ray.
With Xperia Z2 now out, and Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1 compact priced less than $50 higher than the Xperia Z. Is it still a good grab?
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Xperia z is agood phone but the only problem is it's around an year old now, sony said we will get 4.4 update but i don't think we will get any ore after that , Z1 and z1 compact being newer,will surely be updated for a long time, and as they have s800 soc so they are more future proof
Bdw,go in for LG g2 if you dont like the z1 or z1 compact as that is a great phone, and is also future proof as it has the same specs as nexus 5

pick htc on lg. if i were to pick, i'd take lg because I've never had an lg phone and specs are awesome.
sony? i think i'll never buy it again. throwing out 5 different flagship phones in 1 year, customer support sucked, warranty problems sucked, display was dissapointment,... ui experience however was great. other bugs may annoy you.

rohit25 said:
htc one
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not really better than Z.
The best would be lg g2
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Depends what you need from a phone. Contrary to what lots of people say, the screen as compared directly to the Z1 is barely different with properly adjusted white balance and saturation. The camera is excellent but the battery life could be better. I like that with a 5 inch screen it's still smaller then the Z1, the Z1 feels much more slippery because while the edges are made from aluminium, the bezel of the front and back panels is surrounded by a super slick plastic rather then the soft touch finish of the Z. I'd still go for something like a Z1 Compact, Z2 if you really want top end specs and a much bigger battery.

Lg have really gotten their **** together with the G2.
people have reported excellent performance with excellent battery life.
it also got 4.4.2 kitkat before the xperia z1...which still hasnt gotten it yet.
and despite it having a 5.2inch screen, it honestly doesnt feel that big.

I would not suggest you to go with the Z1 Compact if you do not like it's size and bezel.
Whether to go with Xperia Z or Z1 will depend on a few factors:-
1. Snapdragon 800 vs S4 Pro - Do you need or want better performance and battery life?
2. 3000 mAh vs 2300 mAh - Do you want better battery life?
3. 170g vs 146g - Are you alright with the Z1 being heavier?
Personally I prefer the bezel size of the Z as Z1 has thicker bezel but it all comes down to personal preference.
Based on the specifications alone, Z1 will be the winner if the price of both phones are very close.

Help on Deciding.

Hey guys, i have quite allot of android phones and i have tried to stay away from Sony since they lock their boot loaders and it looked like it was hard to develop anything i haven't gotten one (the old ui was FUGLY as well). i own a T989 Galaxy s2 (in fact i own three of them!) as my Main for right now and its getting pretty old (cpu and gpu are old and Games are not as well handled as they used to) i have been thinking of getting a new phone and that phone i have come down to is either a Samsung Galaxy mega 6.3 or a Xperia Z or Xperia SP, i have never payed attention to the Xperia line and they have a pretty good thing going for now, i think i might have to move them to my list of jobs i might take up . everything about the Xperia Z looks pretty great, everything beats out my s2. thought im worried that i have heard that xperias TFT Screens have TERRIBLE veiwing angles, i dont honestly know if i care about that but do any of you get disappointed by this? and do you think it would be the same on the Xperia SP? if so please state what you dont like about the Xperia Z, your Help is appreciated .

Trozzul said:
Hey guys, i have quite allot of android phones and i have tried to stay away from Sony since they lock their boot loaders and it looked like it was hard to develop anything i haven't gotten one (the old ui was FUGLY as well). i own a T989 Galaxy s2 (in fact i own three of them!) as my Main for right now and its getting pretty old (cpu and gpu are old and Games are not as well handled as they used to) i have been thinking of getting a new phone and that phone i have come down to is either a Samsung Galaxy mega 6.3 or a Xperia Z or Xperia SP, i have never payed attention to the Xperia line and they have a pretty good thing going for now, i think i might have to move them to my list of jobs i might take up . everything about the Xperia Z looks pretty great, everything beats out my s2. thought im worried that i have heard that xperias TFT Screens have TERRIBLE veiwing angles, i dont honestly know if i care about that but do any of you get disappointed by this? and do you think it would be the same on the Xperia SP? if so please state what you dont like about the Xperia Z, your Help is appreciated .
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well i suggest you to go for Xperia Z1 Compact / Z2,it has very good viewing angles
Xperia Z & Z1 really has very bad viewing angles,SP about same,but better
Or you can choose T2 Ultra,it also uses IPS TFT

Ben Ling said:
well i suggest you to go for Xperia Z1 Compact / Z2,it has very good viewing angles
Xperia Z & Z1 really has very bad viewing angles,SP about same,but better
Or you can choose T2 Ultra,it also uses IPS TFT
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What about the Xperia ZL it seems about the same as the Xperia Z?

Trozzul said:
What about the Xperia ZL it seems about the same as the Xperia Z?
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same,with colours badly washed out when viewed off-centre

Ben Ling said:
same,with colours badly washed out when viewed off-centre
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i see that the Xperia Z1 compact only has a 4.3" screen. my s2 has a 4.5" and i would like something bigger or equal to that. i see that the Xperia Z2 Compact will have a bigger screen but when it comes out is unknown. im sure i wouldn't mind the poor viewing angles, but the real question is would i be fine with the SP or do i need a bigger screen (Xperia ZL) for $100 more?

Im viewing my phone head on and don't really want people watching my screen so the 'terrible' viewing angles don't mean much to me. When I show people videos on my phone no one has complained saying they cannot see. Im an ex Z user and current Z1 user. Id go for the Z out of your choices.

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i see that the Xperia Z1 compact only has a 4.3" screen. my s2 has a 4.5" and i would like something bigger or equal to that. i see that the Xperia Z2 Compact will have a bigger screen but when it comes out is unknown. im sure i wouldn't mind the poor viewing angles, but the real question is would i be fine with the SP or do i need a bigger screen (Xperia ZL) for $100 more?
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S2 have the same 4.3" like Z1 Compact
While Z2 Compact would probably be around 4.6"
Sony won't support SP much as it is not Z Series,so i still suggest you to go for bigger screen of Xperia Z / ZL

Z2 is the best choice
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If you are looking at the Z2, i personally suggest looking at the newer HTC One M8 and S5.
Sony has JUST begun to catch up with competition, an example is they finally use IPS displays that don't give washed out colours.
Another thing that is an issue as of right now is, their software updates arrive late and with serious bugs, just take a look in the Z Ultra, Z1, Z1 Compact sections about their 4.4 update.
Also, the Z2 has quite large bezels.
Another thing to keep in mind is, when the next flagship Sony comes out soon, Sony will shift most their focus to that device, resulting in the Z2 having a shorter life as a top priority device compared to other companies devices.
(Sony has a 6 month flagship rotation, other companies usually have a one year flagship rotation)
Sony has begun to improve slowly, but to me, Sony is still a risky choice if you are looking for a flagship grade device and support.
All this is just my personal opinion

Ben Ling said:
S2 have the same 4.3" like Z1 Compact
While Z2 Compact would probably be around 4.6"
Sony won't support SP much as it is not Z Series,so i still suggest you to go for bigger screen of Xperia Z / ZL
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i have a T989 which has a 4.5" display, i think it was the only s2 released with a 4.5" display

Trozzul said:
i have a T989 which has a 4.5" display, i think it was the only s2 released with a 4.5" display
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That's T-Mobile version of SII
So you can go for Z series...

Ben Ling said:
That's T-Mobile version of SII
So you can go for Z series...
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Yup i was aware of that. i think im just going to grab a ZL, im sure i wont mind the washed out angles.