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Hey guys.
according to the WSJ Music Beta is soon to be released. What is your experience so far?
Especially i want to know if you have any problems using it from "no us countries"... I'm living in germany and I havent had any problems at the beginning, since a few weeks i can't log in to my MusicManager to upload new songs (Counld not identify your computer )
and i also would like to know if you are willing to pay for this kind of service.
Greez, pake
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203752604576645413691297494.html
Well they're going to be a lot like Apple and iTunes, although I didn't see anything about DRM. Which will be awesome, DRM is stupid and doesn't do anything.
I love Music right now...I use it to stream music that I don't always listen to and store on my phone when I actually do want to listen to it. It's great if my phone is off too, and I'm over at someone's house or something and want to play music from my library. I've had very few hiccups, sometimes I've had to force Music to upload songs, but not really that much. I'd like better control over adding songs to the cloud library though.
And no...I would NOT pay for this kind of service. I'd pay for EXTRA parts of the service, if I deemed them useful (which I probably wouldn't). And of course, I'd love to buy music from Google rather than Apple, I'd much rather support a company I care about.
I use Amazon Cloud Player which is nearly an identical service.
It's awesome btw.
Been using Google music off and on. The artist list can get really laggy over 3g if you have a lot of music. I'm more inclined to pay Pandora which works well over 3g even with the lower audio quality.
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It is so frustrating to code for Android, if people rate apps bad because they don't read the bloody description!
For example, I have an app that mutes the media volume (and does not do anything else!) and somebody complaints that my app doesn't do anything then showing the android volume popup.
Or people rate the medium version of Hack me if you can bad, because they can't solve it.
I guess most of them don't know, that 1-star reviews are really bad for us developers. And if it is a paid app, that also means less income!
But they don't think about it and just do it with one click.
I do understand, that the 1-star option is a must, especially if an app is not working and the developer doesn't response (I mean, that is why we enter an email address!), it is totally okay to give such a bad review.
But most people don't think about it. Best example is the WiiRemote Controller by ccp creations - either people complain that is not working on their phone (because the manufactor removed the functionallity) or because no Wii Games are included. I mean, WTF?
Sorry for spamming, but I think I am not the only one who is frustrated by that. Leave a comment if you want to
The ones I hate are the ones who ding an app because of "no apps to SD"...even if the bloody app is like 2Mb in size...a whole 2MB!!!
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And if your app uses widgets, you simply can't move it to the SD - but you're right, I have seen a lot of these, too....
hmm.. not true, there are many widgets that works even when they are on SD
i got many of them running
To name a few Learn from Go Team, they have a lot of widgets that runs fine even when the App is installed on SD
An app that does nothing but mute volume is a waste of space and deserves a 1 star review IMO.
The Android market has enough junk in it and developers don't seem to care. That's why users barely pay attention anymore. Everyone assumes the worse.
I only have two ratings I use. 1 star and 5 star. Ive yet to meet this mythical flawless app. Paid apps tend to be buggier and less supported than free apps on android and WP7, actually, so people are much harsher towards them.
And do you serious expect me or anyone to hold a rating for an email response? Did you email those users and wait for responses from them before posting this topic?
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@AllGamer: Do you know how to achieve that? Because according to the Developer Guide this is not possible.
@N8ter: If you think it is a waste of space, well don't download it and don't rate it. For other people it is useful, in this case it mutes the media volume, which is normally not muted. So eg. you're sitting in a bus and don't want to annoy other people, you can mute your game sounds with one click.
Yes, you might find it not useful, but still 1-star ratings should be avoided at all costs (unless it is a buggy app AND the developer is not responding)
When developers stop bloating the marketplace with trash then the ratings will stop being so negative. People are frustrated. That's why they have such low attention spans.
Seriously an app to mute volume? You have to back out of your game to run the app, so it's not one click. It's a useless app and you're better off just depressing the volume rocker. Which accelerates and gets it done faster than backing out, tapping the icon, and going back into the app. I don't see any usability advantages to that.
You can publish why you want. But don't complain about the ratings.
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N8ter said:
When developers stop bloating the marketplace with trash then the ratings will stop being so negative. People are frustrated. That's why they have such low attention spans.
Seriously an app to mute volume? You can do that with the volume rocker on most every phone without even unlocking the phone.
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Like I said, the media volume, that is not the ringer volume. But I don't want to discuss whether this app is useful or not, it is about the ratings.
And you can't say the WiiRemote app is not useful, but still people give it bad ratings. Same with the Hack me if you can app - people give bad ratings because they don't read the description (the first sentence is that people shouldn't download the app, if they don't know what adb, logcat etc means) and still I am gettings mails everyday asking me why this app asks for a serial -.-
/edit: No, you click on this app *before* you start the game.
That depends on why the app received those ratings. You're starting an apples and oranges comparison now.
If you expect them to not download because they don't know what adb means then why is it not published on xda instead of the android market.
Most phones have an option to vibrate when silenced so keeping the ringer on is useless. If you don't wan them hearing your game sounds you probably don't want them hearing your ringtones either. Hard to miss a call vibrate when the phone is in both your hands anyways. Games don't use the vibrator that much to miss the call (and it would pop up on the screen anyways).
Again, it's absolution to a non issue. That's why people call it useless. I've read a lot of the reviews.
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As an educator and former support desk supervisor for a 1000 seat call center I believe those responding inappropriately to applications are immature and/or ignorant. The former is understandable but barely bearable and coupled with ignorance it makes for an unhappy experience for everyone else. I'm proposing a matrix for apps. and 15 or 20 associates from your ranks or readership to review apps if in fact this can be done at xda. Xda could conceivably be the stopping place for accurate reviews based on a matrix.
All devs care about ratings. Don't get me wrong. I just think your expectations are out of line. People will not wait for email responses before rating free apps, and since app markets let you edit ratings they will always rate low and raise the rating only if the app improves or becomes useful.
Low ratings for niche apps ensure that more broadly useful apps surface higher for that broader user base.
The fact that your volume app is low rates means its only useful to a very small number of people. The ratings simply reflect that.
Ratings reflect more than quality, they affect scope and usefulness as well. When you accept that, it will be less of an issue for you to swallow it.
Obviously you're new to this.
Example: the app that put ads in your notification bar would never have been fixed if people simply uninstalled and didn't rate or report it, or rated it highly because it worked well ads notwithstanding.
The problem is more the rating system than the ratings. A star system works better for your personal music library than an online app store, IMO.
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As an educator and former support desk supervisor for a 1000 seat call center I believe those responding inappropriately to applications are immature and/or ignorant. The former is understandable but barely bearable and coupled with ignorance it makes for an unhappy experience for everyone else. I'm proposing a matrix for apps. and 15 or 20 associates from your ranks or readership to review apps if in fact this can be done at xda. Xda could conceivably be the stopping place for accurate reviews according to a matrix.
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That's useless because XDA readers are not a typical representation of the average consumer. All that data would be less than marginally useful IMO.
As an educator and support center supervisor you should know this (and how to paragraph).
The market reviews are doing the OP a favor by suggesting he should focus on other projects.
Sometimes obvious clues aren't so obvious, though. I'm sure Microsoft can still be selling the Kin, and Nokia can be trying to push Symbian in the US, among other things. After all, a few people did rate them 5 stars. Right.
Part of being a developer is knowing how to manage your obligations an knowing when it's time to drop something and move on. Crying about reviews can and likely will do nothing but harm your reputation as a dev (and attract more negative reviews, just to spite you in some cases).
It's not an easy thing to do, but it's part of the profession. Being an indie developer is hard as ****.
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Well, it is not about the app, but about the ratings. And I absolutely agree with mtd076.
Btw n8ter, the Muter app has an avarange rating of 4.7 and the Hack me if you can app *was* on xda (even on the frontpage). So, this discussion is getting way too offtopic...
I told you I read some of the reviews and looked at the download numbers.
This thread is pops up every 6 months or so.
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The ones I hate are the ones who ding an app because of "no apps to SD"...even if the bloody app is like 2Mb in size...a whole 2MB!!!
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you have a Nexus S. which means you have 15 GB of storage, and no SD card. what you fail to realize is not everyone has your phone. a very large amount of phones have small on board storage, and so those users (did I say users? I mean app developer's CUSTOMERS) NEED the app 2 sd option. and no, we don't all have the option of a phone with lots of storage, and even if we do, some of those phones have other limiting factors that some of us consider even worse. the fact is, there really are no excuses left for those devs that still fail to offer their customers the app 2 sd option.the feature debuted with Froyo, around a year and a half ago. ironic to hear people complain about version fragmentation, yet havent yet supported a good feature that's over a year old.
some devs simply fail to understand the fact that not all customers are like them, and use the phone they use. and they fail to serve these customers. which hurts the dev's reputation, and sales. good devs learn from this mistake, and adapt their product accordingly for success. bad devs, instead, blame their customers for the problem and ignore it, quickly developing bad word of mouth (ratings).
I'm not usually a promoter of capitalism, but seriously, welcome to the free (Android) market, folks. success is what YOU make it.
A lot of mid ranged phones come with < 400mb device storage but support to 32 gb SD cards as well. Think of phones like the Aria, as well as people on older "high end" phones who haven't upgraded. Nexus Ones, for example. Lots.of high end HTC phones came with relatively little internal storage as well.
You can always package the widget independently like the catch notes development team does for those people.
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some devs simply fail to understand the fact that not all customers are like them, and use the phone they use. and they fail to serve these customers. which hurts the dev's reputation, and sales. good devs learn from this mistake, and adapt their product accordingly for success. bad devs, instead, blame their customers for the problem and ignore it, quickly developing bad word of mouth (ratings).
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Completely agree. People will download your app for the sole reason of rating it down, and then uninstall without even opening it duebto bad word of mouth. This happens all the time with some popular apps... browsers. Launchers. Messaging clients. etc. All deal with that.
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Completely agree. People will download your app for the sole reason of rating it down, and then uninstall without even opening it duebto bad word of mouth. This happens all the time with some popular apps... browsers. Launchers. Messaging clients. etc. All deal with that.
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that... isn't what I said at all. and I doubt any sizeable number of people are doing what you're saying. no one trolls the Market just for that reason. I was actually saying that bad word of mouth prevents people from downloading flawed apps, which is exactly how it's supposed to work.
I never said you said it. I said I agree with you and addes my own thought afterwards.
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Which is your favorite store to buy music and why? Amazon, Google Play or iTunes? Do they let you decide in which quality do you buy your tracks? Do all of them offer digital booklets?
I want the best quality possible and to be able to copy my downloaded albums to my nexus 4 and my macbook
Thanks for the input
So it seems now all stores have DRM free tracks, which means you can put the tracks you download in any device you own :victory: now about quality:
Amazon offers uses 256kbps variable bitrate
iTunes uses 256 kbps AAC and they say now their standard is "iTunes plus" and that the old format is still on some albums/songs because the record companies dont offer apple their iTunes plus version but how can i know which albums are offered in the old format and which ones in itunes plus?
Google play uses 320 kbps files
So in short it seems that the place to get the most quality is google play, to get the best prices is amazon and the largest collection iTunes
The downside for amazon and google play is that if you want to have the digital booklets it seems you should buy your music in itunes, google play doesnt offer digital booklets whatsoever and amazon offers it in just a few albums :'(
Is it a Deja vu or have I seen this thread before?
Im writing this post because I think im being drawn to apple. I love all the features of android and rooting and all that good nerdy stuff, but music for me is huge. I think whether a lot of us want to agree on this or not, but itunes is beating google play. Googles music is not very user friendly when buying music and downloading it. You are only given 3 times to download a song from the web, and for unlimited downloading of the song you nust download your entire library with it. As for google match, it only STREAMS 320 kbs. You can't download a higher bit rate song that's been matched. Which is a big downside I don't hear anyone talking about. For itunes, you pay 25 dollars I think but at least you can download the higher bit rate. Plus, they're program for mac and windows is super easy. I think a lot of people who have android still use itunes because of this.
When I went to an apple store (against my will) I just glanced at their iphone 5 to mock it as many of us would've. When I was going through the music, I noticed it sounded and looked much better on it. Now, granted they were probably a higher bit rate, it still irritated me. I think google should get a program that can edit music and match with DOWNLOADS, because if not im afraid im going to have to go to apple. The simplicity of the music outweighs my love for android. As soon as you connect your iphone to the computer, it automatically syncs your library with itunes. No duplicates or any of that, no installing isync and spending so many unnecessary hours...
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Im writing this post because I think im being drawn to apple. I love all the features of android and rooting and all that good nerdy stuff, but music for me is huge. I think whether a lot of us want to agree on this or not, but itunes is beating google play. Googles music is not very user friendly when buying music and downloading it. You are only given 3 times to download a song from the web, and for unlimited downloading of the song you nust download your entire library with it. As for google match, it only STREAMS 320 kbs. You can't download a higher bit rate song that's been matched. Which is a big downside I don't hear anyone talking about. For itunes, you pay 25 dollars I think but at least you can download the higher bit rate. Plus, they're program for mac and windows is super easy. I think a lot of people who have android still use itunes because of this.
When I went to an apple store (against my will) I just glanced at their iphone 5 to mock it as many of us would've. When I was going through the music, I noticed it sounded and looked much better on it. Now, granted they were probably a higher bit rate, it still irritated me. I think google should get a program that can edit music and match with DOWNLOADS, because if not im afraid im going to have to go to apple. The simplicity of the music outweighs my love for android. As soon as you connect your iphone to the computer, it automatically syncs your library with itunes. No duplicates or any of that, no installing isync and spending so many unnecessary hours...
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Lol I just saw that other thread a bit ago, as I read this I was like wtf?
Lol then I read the last part
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Lol I had to do it three times because on the first one I posted I was told to go to off-topic...then thw moved it again..and again. And here we are!
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islandjat said:
Im writing this post because I think im being drawn to apple. I love all the features of android and rooting and all that good nerdy stuff, but music for me is huge. I think whether a lot of us want to agree on this or not, but itunes is beating google play. Googles music is not very user friendly when buying music and downloading it. You are only given 3 times to download a song from the web, and for unlimited downloading of the song you nust download your entire library with it. As for google match, it only STREAMS 320 kbs. You can't download a higher bit rate song that's been matched. Which is a big downside I don't hear anyone talking about. For itunes, you pay 25 dollars I think but at least you can download the higher bit rate. Plus, they're program for mac and windows is super easy. I think a lot of people who have android still use itunes because of this.
When I went to an apple store (against my will) I just glanced at their iphone 5 to mock it as many of us would've. When I was going through the music, I noticed it sounded and looked much better on it. Now, granted they were probably a higher bit rate, it still irritated me. I think google should get a program that can edit music and match with DOWNLOADS, because if not im afraid im going to have to go to apple. The simplicity of the music outweighs my love for android. As soon as you connect your iphone to the computer, it automatically syncs your library with itunes. No duplicates or any of that, no installing isync and spending so many unnecessary hours...
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(I wrote this thread on a separate post but they told me to go here so I got tired of re typing so I just copied and pasted)
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So get an iPhone then. No one is stopping you.
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So get an iPhone then. No one is stopping you.
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@islandjat If you are that into music, why don't you download it from iTunes and then put it on your Android. Solve the bitrate and download policy issue. For the UI and stream, Google Music is still young compared to iTunes. Either you give it time to mature or leave it. And for the "better" sounding iPhone, I have nothing to say. "Everyone's ears are different" - Apple.
I got the best if both worlds now lol. I have my awesome note 2 and I use itunes along with winamp for wireless sync. Im satisfied because I can use tuneup and I paid the 25 dollars to have the match feature. Anyone else who's reading this should do the same if thwy have had my issues. Which is the beauty of android...you get it all
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Buy music? What does that mean? You're supposed to pay for it?
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Buy music? What does that mean? You're supposed to pay for it?
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Buy music? What does that mean? You're supposed to pay for it?
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nope, you pay lady gaga for her costume and help get herself reformed
I once had an Apple hardware was specifically iPhone 4, and if you have other my post it I recommend you ITunes wide range of music e-books and what he want. If you are less demanding, I think that just Google Aps or Amazon. com
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I buy from iTunes and beatport. I mostly listen to dance music. If it's not, I torrent.
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IXChicharitoXI said:
I buy from iTunes and beatport. I mostly listen to dance music. If it's not, I torrent.
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don't make apple rich
IXChicharitoXI said:
I buy from iTunes and beatport. I mostly listen to dance music. If it's not, I torrent.
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+10000 on Dance music
Ive NEVER paid for a song in my life.. Am i a bad person?
All my high energy dance mix music is free!
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+10000 on Dance music
Ive NEVER paid for a song in my life.. Am i a bad person?
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You're a good person bro.
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You're a good person bro.
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I have 20GB of music stored, am I still a good person? And all programs for free, I feel that there is a limit... oh God why.
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I bought chromecast the day it came out from best buy. Since then I have used it maybe 3 times. It was more of an impulse buy since most Google stuff is awesome.
The fact that I can only use this with Netflix or YouTube is bs. Trying to get local vids to play through chrome browser is hit or miss. Most of the time it just downloads whatever movie I try to play. If I want to watch a local vid from the comp I just turn on the Xbox.
Hopefully Google gets their stuff together and let's ppl stream from the phone to the tv, then I would use it. Until then it will remain plugged into my TV taking up an HDMI port until I need to plug in something that I will use or until Google adds more functionality. And Netflix streaming sucks. Kinda a crappy "bonus" if u ask me.
Not useless, but my excitement has waned significantly. Google seems to be following the GoogleTV mode on this device too, which means we most likely won't ever see it reach its potential, for a myriad of political and monetary reasons. My similarly priced Rockchip MK808 GTV stick has lots of capabilities, but I did have to buy a control point (Lenovo N5902) and it is a bit more fiddly than Chromecast, but the power and capability makes it worth it.
What's with the incessant whining? The product has only been out for less than a month, it's still getting into customers' hands and its development is in progress. The product's capabilities were clear when you bought it (Netflix, YouTube, Google Play and Chrome tab streaming). Wait for progress or return it and save us the drama.
If you want to see what incessant whining looks like, please visit any Logitech Revue GTV forum...
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I see a lot of people complaining that this device only does what google said it would do. I don't understand this. When the SDK is officially released and apps start appearing then you will get extra functionality but until then don't complain that you can do exactly what was advertised.
I agree, chromecast is pretty much useless.
Casting from a Chrome browser tab gives me a low quality picture.
I'm back to using hdmi cable.
It will gather dust until someday Google permits Fling to function again.
Or maybe until the next garage sale?
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I'm pretty happy with it so far. Netflix support is great and Play Movies is (in my opinion) the best place to purchase digital movies. Really the only thing it's missing for me is playing *ahem* acquired movies.
I am happy with it so far.
I have never been a big youtube user because i don't like to sit at the computer and watch videos. Chromcasting youtube has been a ton of fun for me over the past couple of weeks. I find it a little easier than using youtube in the browser on my htpc with the keyboard. I experience less eyestrain looking at the tablet in my hands than trying to navigate youtube the screen 10+ feet away.
...but hoping the pace of new casting enabled apps picks up.
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I agree, chromecast is pretty much useless.
Casting from a Chrome browser tab gives me a low quality picture.
I'm back to using hdmi cable.
It will gather dust until someday Google permits Fling to function again.
Or maybe until the next garage sale?
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Thats funny since the app you loved so much uses the same video compress as the chrome browser. I cant beleive anyone is happy flinging <480p video(as far as i know the 500px width is about the highest quality webm video they've gotten to go to the chromecast. Its a neat tool but not practical for transcoding hidef video(or even dvd)
I agree with the current lack of usability. Hopefully new functions will appear soon.
It does what Google said it would do. More functionality hopefully will come and should come. But I use Chromecast daily for watching Breaking Bad and YouTube for my son
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I got mine about a week ago ir less after being on backorder for 4 weeks. I too HOPE we get more functionality from it soon/in time. BUT it has been nice to have for me for the price. My living room big tv has directCRAPtv connected to it which is okay but no other real devices except dvd player and vhs bel8eve it or not (which hardly ever get used).
So for the price it cost $42 shipped even with netflix it is worth thst little money. We have 3 roku's connected in three other rooms with netflix already, Hulu+ and they cost what about 3 times as much and dont do much more than this.
Since we have already seen some PREVIEW apps that shows what it CAN DO I know in time it will have more usage available. Hell I remember when the google market didnt have many apps with my first android device. I kept seeing comparisons (as stupid as they were) about iCrap having way mire apps available. Some things like this Chromecast start off slowly but I bet most apps worth streaming will work soon enough. So for the price I paid I can wait a while for the functionality I want.
I am an adult and have some patience. We have already seen Google response to the local streaming content. So I know in time it will come. So no worries. I probabky wont buy another 1 or more until it has the functionality/apps ready. But for the price and features already it is worth it. I rather watch the netflix on the 72" screen than my rooms 3w inch screens, let alone my tab or phone. Do I watch it on the other devices? Yes. So I feel the difference in the big screen...
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If you want to see what incessant whining looks like, please visit any Logitech Revue GTV forum...
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No offense to you but a good amount of that "incessant whining" is highly justified. Logitech pretty much has left us with a device that is buggy beyond belief. If I can't do simple stuff like YouTube without having to reformat it every other day then it's a fail in my opinion. Aw well once I can get my hands on the MiniX Neo X7 then I'm done with the Revue once and for all.
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No offense to you but a good amount of that "incessant whining" is highly justified. Logitech pretty much has left us with a device that is buggy beyond belief. If I can't do simple stuff like YouTube without having to reformat it every other day then it's a fail in my opinion. Aw well once I can get my hands on the MiniX Neo X7 then I'm done with the Revue once and for all.
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None taken...I felt your pain for a few weeks before throwing in the towel on that product (ow, the pain of early adopter). My point is that we've 'been here before' with some Google widget that fell short of its promise, owing to a too-early, 'not ready for prime-time player' (nod to the SNL oldsters out there) and disorganised messages about updates and direction of development. If they're hunkering down in attempt to curry favor with big media companies (learned a lesson from GTV?), we're in for a long wait, and likely a hampered SDK, Still, I like what I've seen from these third-party devs (Bubble, ALL/Air, etc.), and hope we see a quick release and uptick on 'indie' dev that doesn't necessarily promote Google's own agenda.
edit: I'm curious why you prefer the Minix X7 over a recent MK Rockchip stick?
What is useless is this thread. Please remember this is a developers forum and not a complaint site. Unless you have something that contributes to development do not create threads.
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Compared to say the S5, or Note 4 ?
I was shocked last weekend when my friends and I had some bbq afternoon... All 10 of them had a shiny iphone 6 !
Mind you these people don't know sh ite about rooting and stuff like that, they just take pictures and post them on instagram and sh itbook, even my cousin and her husband... am I the only one who loves Android and Samsung? or they have not seen the light yet????
Lol. I just look at the sheeple and laugh.
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Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.
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[/COLOR]Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.
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exactly right, they abuse me when they get a virus on their laptop...
iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.
airwa1kin7 said:
iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.
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Could not have said that better IPhone is perfect when you just want the phone that works without much hassle. Android is perfect when you love tweaking and playing with your phone and not actually use it that much Because with a android you are never satisfied, there is always something more to tweak, change rom and other stuff so for me it always ends with just messing with it. To much time tweaking and flashing to find the perfect setup
Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.
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Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.
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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.
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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.
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you dont have to buy anything
tmac31 said:
you dont have to buy anything
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Yep it's called stealing ....
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Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
What do you guys think?
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RISHI RAJ said:
Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
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Me, NOT at the moment. I am so used to android, just like my PC vs Mac, and my Canon DSLR vs Nikon...
But time will tell, now that Samsung started rolling phones that have irreplaceable battery and no SD card support...
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Yep it's called stealing ....
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Nope i meant it goes same for both os.
tmac31 said:
Nope i meant it goes same for both os.
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Given the way the OP phrased his post - I think we were both accurate But yes you are right. There are plenty of people accessing content they haven't paid for on iOS too.
as an ex-iphone user (went from S1 to iphone 4 then iphone 5, back to S3 and every samsung since then) i have a similar view on them.
iPhones are simple to understand - not simple to use. there is always one way to do something, and thats it.
For many people thats preferable to feeling like an idiot when there is 10 ways to do something. go to android and watch a movie "oh it didnt work" - you tell them to try BS player or MX player and they just throw their hands in the air, because the built in video player is holy and sacred.
The reason for the simplicity is simple: On apple, every last thing is designed to come from itunes, and be played by the apple stock apps. there is one source to get the content, one app to play them, and the only thing that seperates the users is how much money you have to throw at the apple ecosystem - once someone has spent a few hundred bucks on iTunes content they'll never leave, because they add that value to offset the cost of a new phone. $900 iphone? pfft,i have $2K in iTunes, it might as well be free!"
on android, you can buy them from a dozen sources, pirate them, copy them from your PC - and you have infinite playback options. its simply too complex for people who bought the phone without knowing *WHY* they bought that phone, since they dont use most of its capabilities anyway. These are the common iSheep, the people who bought it because it's cool and looks fancy, but use it like a nokia.
Everyone i've converted from apple to samsung has followed the same path as well "why? this does the same things as my iphone, but the iphone is prettier and has itunes" - they do a direct comparison without even considering what the phone can do BEYOND the iphones capabilities. Showing them the S-pen, or directly playing files off my NAS/PC over wifi, or MHL/HDMI, or the note 4's super fast charging blows them away.
the iphone is the baseline, and they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same.
"i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?" - this also goes for themes, keyboards, stock apps and so on.
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they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same. "i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?"
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Pretty much. I was really over whelmed when I came back to Android. I was used to things just working out of the box. Now I have to rebuild my music collection from Google Play as that is eaiser then attempting to transfer from iTunes. Took a few days before I got the hang of flashing and building from source. Things have changed as if you keep in mind my iPhone is now just a really expensive GameBoy Advance and remote. My Note 4 is my daily driver.
So, on iPhone there is no proper PGP support, no NFC APIs (so no support for secure tokens such as Yubikey, or even NFC tags), no low level network APIs (so you can't implement your own protocol, such as OpenVPN).... (I could go on and on)
It seems like a no-go to me, it is pretty much locked down as well, even though you actually purchased the device you can't do anything on it that's not endorsed by Apple, that's why I strayed away from the iPhone in the first place (I used to own an iPhone 3GS, that's until I swiched to android and never came back).
As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.
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As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.
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But that's the thing of course. If you work in IT, you most probably want an android. However if you don't know sh*t about IT, which 98% of the people don't, an iphone really might be the better option. You dont have to worry about battery drains, wakelocks, background apps running, viruses, etc. It just does what it's supposed to do when a monkey operates it.
But if you're in IT, you most likely want to do some more stuff, go more in depth and then Android is clearly the OS of choice.
I like iphone coz everybody knows when u have an iphone.But you have to tell that you have a Note 4 coz there are hell lot of samsung mobile with similar looks.Also there is atleast 1 year surity that apple will not release another phone with similar looks.Also with some restrictions removed like access to files or install from external source could make apple on top.But guess this is how ios will be.Although I can now play movies & songs from external source by an app called xender atleast making it usable
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For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problems in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
I am not insulting them, I just want them to not blind and open eye, Technology is changing, iPhone is good but not perfect, android is good but not for normal user same as window phone.
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For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problem problem in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
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I do not intend to be rude, but in english the word dump means something different to the way you are using it. Perhaps you meant the word dumb?