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[Q] Windows 8 for the Galaxy Tab

Since windows 8 will work on pretty much every hardware, is it possible that we will see a windows 8 port for our galaxy tabs? ;D

The developer preview doesn't support ARM. so not anytime soon.

Hold on.
One of Microsoft's official statements about Windows8 development a while ago, was that it would fully support ARM cpu's as i recall.
And as the official preview shows. IT is fully designed for a Tablet (and or) multi-touch device.

well i saw the conference and they said it's Intel processor I5 on Samsung Tab with 4 Gig of ram and 64 Gig of memory .....

oh well, then I guess not until the final release

Don't kid yourself... If anything they'll drop developement for the older devices as there are more and more of the newer ones coming out.... Why support such old tech if its dated? Its more profitable to concentrate finding and killing any problems with the newer devices then supporting devices that, as far as they are concerned, are at the end of their life....

Windows is over

i wanted to really post this, but you had the balls to post it lol.. i downloaded windows 8 dev build a bit ago.... i wish i could install it on my galaxy tab...

No guarantees on support continuing, but I remember reading a Microsoft statement saying that ARM architectures would be supported and there was a mention of Microsoft supporting the ARMv8-based devices at least. It will probably take a hell of a lot of work to make it work properly on the Tab, but once the final Win8 builds hit with ARM support, it *should* theoretically be possible.

always wondered about windows
i for one always wondered if it would be possibile to install windows on our device..
like the iconia w500 dualboot or something.. that would be toooo good....
great post... like was said already i guess a lot of us have thought about it.. but you had the balls to post it

Even if it did, it would run like a bag of ****

Roydelmon said:
Since windows 8 will work on pretty much every hardware, is it possible that we will see a windows 8 port for our galaxy tabs? ;D
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wtf has this got to do with Android development, and why post a question in this forum when there is a blatantly obvious forum specifically created for QUESTIONS???
The amount of these posts is getting f***ing ridiculous, how hard is it to use use some common sense and take 5 seconds to look where you are posting.
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i for one always wondered if it would be possibile to install windows on our device..
like the iconia w500 dualboot or something.. that would be toooo good....
great post... like was said already i guess a lot of us have thought about it.. but you had the balls to post it
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it does. i've done that and it works like a champ. i have tested with 2 device here where by 1 of it is Acer Iconia W500 which works great.
i also tested on machine with spec like dual core ULV 1.2 processor, 1GB RAM and a 5200rpm machine. it works better than windows 7 with some minor tuning.

Windows 8 has been confirmed to run on ARM chips for months now (I believe there were Qualcomm reference devices at BUILD.) however as stated above the Tab 7" is almost a year old now which is ancient in terms of mobile hardware. So if there's a dev that is willing to undertake the project then it is theoretically possible (although there's no minimum system specs yet so we'll see if the Tab's hardware is even capable of running it). Additionally the radios used in our devices may not be supported in Windows 8 simply because they're outdated by now and the device is designed for Android so Microsoft may not bother to build in such compatibility. This means possibly no Wi-Fi, 3G, Bluetooth, etc.

Windows?! We need freedom! Ubuntu or Android: Choose your poison

nathanpc said:
Windows?! We need freedom! Ubuntu or Android: Choose your poison
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Too true Windows is only good for playing games these days

BulletproofIdeal said:
Too true Windows is only good for playing games these days
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Yup, I'm stuck with windows pc's at work, and my main pc at home is windows for my games, all my other machines are linux mint..

pvtjoker42 said:
Yup, I'm stuck with windows pc's at work, and my main pc at home is windows for my games, all my other machines are linux mint..
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Natty narwhal with gnome 3 ftw
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BulletproofIdeal said:
Too true Windows is only good for playing games these days
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And I thought the Apple fanboys were bad.

nathanpc said:
Windows?! We need freedom! Ubuntu or Android: Choose your poison
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Ubuntu?? Where is touch scenario? Where is touch enable apps ?
Android? Fix the compatibility between the hardware vendors first.
I'm looking the war and could benefit for all customers.

I betrayed us

I went and did it
I bought the new ipad
The retina-ish display was too tempting
And I kinda wish it was an android tab but the display was cool
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i can speak for everyone on the site when i say.....we dont give a damn

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I plan on getting one at the end of the year. How you liking it so far?
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I honestly don't see the point of owning and android phone AND an android pad... same with having an iphone and ipad
if I had an iphone, I'd look at android pads
I was looking at the new ipad too... but I can't see myself using it for anything more than I use my phone or laptop for so I don't see the point

I was thinking about the newer ipad too, but I ended up buying a $1000 laptop instead. Lol

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I honestly don't see the point of owning and android phone AND an android pad... same with having an iphone and ipad
if I had an iphone, I'd look at android pads
I was looking at the new ipad too... but I can't see myself using it for anything more than I use my phone or laptop for so I don't see the point
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It makes a lot of since to have have both apple or both android. You can use your purchased apps on both devices from the same company. But you can't use your ios apps on your android and your android apps on ios. You would have to buy them all over again.

That display is really something to behold. Never seen anything like it before. Would I buy one? Nope. Would I buy an Android tablet? Nope. I have 0 use for both of them at this point.

12MaNy said:
I was thinking about the newer ipad too, but I ended up buying a $1000 laptop instead. Lol
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Better choice, as long as it was a PC.

gtuansdiamm said:
I went and did it
I bought the new ipad
The retina-ish display was too tempting
And I kinda wish it was an android tab but the display was cool
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not sure if there is a jailbreak for the new ipad but i know you can make it look like an android tablet.

There's a nice little video about how "awesome" the new ipad is...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YWWQ_Hfk68
(ps, if you respond with pointing out how that video is "wrong for this and that and the other thing, and btw what about this"....
You've been trolled.)
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Nothing wrong with that, looks like a decent machine. I am waiting out for a decent and decently priced quad core Android tablet. Sticking with one library of apps rather than investing in two. But some of the serious apps I wish to have on android might be awhile.

kbizzle said:
Better choice, as long as it was a PC.
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We know it was a PC, no way in the world he bought a MAC for $1000

12MaNy said:
I was thinking about the newer ipad too, but I ended up buying a $1000 laptop instead. Lol
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good choice.lol. Woulda done the same.
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Have fun with the rest of the sheep.
And why is that high of screen resolution needed on a 10" screen?
Just like the rest of the iDrones, ooh look it is shiny, look at the pretty colors and lights, and I only have to sign my bank account, soul, and first born child over to crapple? Sign me up! Morons!
Give crapple 500+ dollars,
Get higher screen res than is actually needed,
Tablet overheats and shuts down,
Firmware fix will just slow down CPU reducing performance,
Pay crapple hundreds more dollars for apps that aren't actually worth it,
PRICELESS!
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cant bring my self to do it, now my wife and kids different story I believe apple is the devil lol but thats just me.
but i did watched the video on it seem like a kool toy
lol

I have five of these selling on Ebay right now. They are going for 700 each. I tried for one hour and I was done with it and android has so much more to do than ios 5.1.
I like super amoled better than retina display.
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I'm holding out for the new transformer prime/infinity 700 series. Hopefully it is released in the next month or so.
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I unfortunately can't justify buying a tab. I want one. I bought my girlfriend the Nook Tablet and her roommate uses it more than she does. I think I'm gonna take it and put CM7 on it.

cant decide which win7 tab to get...

before you say it, yes i know win7 isnt a good tablet os. i know. i dont care i still want one. lol.
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my arguments for gigabyte:
much faster cpu (atom equivalent of an i3)
standard 2.5" hdd allows more and cheaper upgrade options (hybrid hdd anyone?)
dual usb with one superspeed
mouse pad, mouse buttons and scroll buttons make it much easier to navagate freely, also certain combos will send certain commands like C+A+D
looks really sexy, pretty much like the hp slate
thoughts: if it had atleast 720p resolution and atleast dx10 supported gpu id be all over this thing
summary: has ehh hardware compared to msi but ease of use seems exponentially better​my arguments for msi:
slightly cheaper
ips display at 720p+ (you sexy beast)
lower tdp cpu
radeon 6 series gpu with dx11 absolutely OBLITERATES any atom gma (the ability to do some light gaming like bejeweled and heavy weapon would be nice, at more than 15 fps would be even better)
double the ram at a higher data rate
msata insures low power consumption
dual cameras
gps (cuz why not)
slightly bigger battery
dedicated C+A+D button can be pretty useful
tpm security module
thoughts: if i could find a better cpu to upgrade to i could live with everything else and would buy this thing in a heartbeat but lack of mouse controls, super slow cpu and lack of i/o ports are a real turn off
summary: has some fairly impressive hardware for a tablet, but the ease of use seems lacking compared to the gigabyte​

I can see where this will end up, so ib4l

ha ha ha! way to be productive bro.

Some people here judge everyone by their own standards

yeah... just go ahead and delete the thread im sure everyone is gonna bypass it anyway

m1l4droid said:
I'd say wait for surface. It's worth the wait. Even I'm ditching Android as a tablet OS for that device.
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^^^ that.
Unless there's a specific reason for wanting W7 on it (maybe you just want it now, rather than waiting), go for W8 - looks much better.

daktah said:
yeah... just go ahead and delete the thread im sure everyone is gonna bypass it anyway
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I'll close it if you really want me to, but not everyone in here's a troll. Some will actually read your post and answer constructively.

Archer said:
^^^ that.
Unless there's a specific reason for wanting W7 on it (maybe you just want it now, rather than waiting), go for W8 - looks much better.
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i know i probably should but im not looking to spend a ton of money on this thing as i already have a $2300-something sager gaming rig (the one good thing about deploying: the redonk amount of cash you make). i just wanted this as a small cheap portable solution.and plus i can jusp upgrade when w8 is released if i wanted.
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I'll close it if you really want me to, but not everyone in here's a troll. Some will actually read your post and answer constructively.
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oh yes i know ive been here since i found the place back when the og evo came out so i know that people can be really helpful... when it comes to phones. other things tend to be not so much. atleast in my experience.

I had no intention of being a troll - it was early in the morning here, I briefly skimmed the OP and had visions of it going exactly the same way the recent Mac thread has gone, turning into a haters vs fanboys outing.
To be honest, I would also recommend waiting for one of the 'Surface' tablets running Windows 8. 7 just isn't designed for tablets and is still really difficult to utilise without a keyboard - I speak from experience as I am an EPoS engineer by trade and spend half my life using both XP & Win 7 based touch-screen PC systems in my job.
I have played with 8 and it just looks much better designed and far more ideal for the Tablet market.

The arm version of the surface would have a processor that is similar to those of android tablets and the ipad right now. You wont be able to run any current windows programs on it. However the pro version of the surface should run older windows programs, in addition to the metro apps. The pro version will most likely be a bit pricey though.

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The arm version of the surface would have a processor that is similar to those of android tablets and the ipad right now. You wont be able to run any current windows programs on it. However the pro version of the surface should run older windows programs, in addition to the metro apps. The pro version will most likely be a bit pricey though.
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Yes I just looked it up and saw that and that is my problem with new Surface machines. RT is supposed to start out at $600 but basically is a glorified WinMob/WinPhone, and since its ARM it will most likely use SOCs which means no CPU or RAM expansion options. On the other hand 8/Pro will be fully compatible with everything and use standard mobile components, but starting at $1000+ is way out of my price range. Again, I have an expensive ass laptop for the power computing area of my life, I just wanted this as a thing that is more mobile and just to mess around with it. And as far as the keyboard thing, SimonTS, a $15 generic mini USB keyboard case from Amazon can easily solve that problem.
I guess when I end up being able to buy something Ill go for the Gigabyte because of the body, ports, and the couple of accessories offered by Gigabyte compared to the... nothing that MSI offers (that Im aware of at least). I bet I can replace the screen on it too hopefully.

Android and iPhone

Alright, I'm sure some people will get a little crazy about this subject but I'm just wondering what others think...
We all love our Android devices and how open and free they feel but some of us like the "quality" of an iPhone..
I've been debating whether to stick to android or try out iOS. Now I know how great android is and how limited iOS can be but I haven't been able to find anything where someone talks about rooted android devices vs JB'd iPhones.. we all the android is better than an iPhone when they are both not hacked or rooted but what do you guys think is the better device for development and features after its been hacked?
I've seen some pretty cool stuff on iPhone but I also love how we can replace our stock apps to have different themes or better functions,etc.
I basically just want to know what everyone's thoughts our about this.
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Moved to OT, go ahead OT´ers!!

Android > iPhone
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Android still has more features/customizability/ whateveryouwannacallit after it's been 'hacked'. And a lot of the newer Android phones have just as good build quality as the iPhone.

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Moved to OT, go ahead OT´ers!!
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Alright, I'm sure some people will get a little crazy about this subject but I'm just wondering what others think...
We all love our Android devices and how open and free they feel but some of us like the "quality" of an iPhone..
I've been debating whether to stick to android or try out iOS. Now I know how great android is and how limited iOS can be but I haven't been able to find anything where someone talks about rooted android devices vs JB'd iPhones.. we all the android is better than an iPhone when they are both not hacked or rooted but what do you guys think is the better device for development and features after its been hacked?
I've seen some pretty cool stuff on iPhone but I also love how we can replace our stock apps to have different themes or better functions,etc.
I basically just want to know what everyone's thoughts our about this.
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Android OS is superior regardless if it is Rooted or iOS is Jailbroke or not. From what I hear JBing an iDevice makes it slow and unstable, whereas rooting and Android device can only improve its performance. Jailbreaking doesn't get you out of the garden, it only puts a hole in the wall you can look out. Now if you were to say you would like to carry both I can understand, but just trading from Android to iOS is a bad idea development wise.
Edit: I am Android biased of course, but long story short you can see from my sig I do have some value for iOS. If I had to choose only one it would be Android, easy choice. But I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy owning both. Although I think an iPhone over an Android phone would be a huge mistake for anybody except older people that are unfamiliar with tech.

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I just can't put my finger on it, but this thread seems strangely familiar...

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I just can't put my finger on it, but this thread seems strangely familiar...
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This thread was moved here from elsewhere.
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OP...I'm not seeing the need to get an iPhone other than buying into the hype about Apple products. You know darn well that Android devices can do the same and more. If you want the iPhone look, use a MIUI rom.
There's tons of threads in this forum alone comparing Apple vs. Android and the consensus most of the time is Android devices are better.
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There's tons of threads in this forum alone comparing Apple vs. Android and the consensus most of the time is Android devices are better.
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That'll be why it seems so familiar, because it's been covered umpteen dozen times before!

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True but this time it's not the OP's fault. This thread came from a different forum.

I had the chance to use both of them and prefer android devices for a long list of reasons. I bought an ipad because well everyone on teh interwebs said it was best and that android tablets were not ready yet. after 2months i sold it, i wouldve sold it earlier but i wanted to wait for the ipad 2 jailbreak in case it improved anything. indeed it could add some features at the cost of stability and speed. at tnis time i already had an android phone and knew that android was moar capable especially when rooted, and so i sold my ipad to get a galaxy tab plus, and i would never switch back.
reasons for idevices were the higher density of high quality apps, which by now isnt true anymore. spontaneously i would say, unless you really really need that one app which is ios only, dont get an idevice.
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You're far too nice

I know there are other post like this but they haven't helped me in any way...yea I would love to carry both devices...if I could then I wouldn't have created this thread..I had an itouch before and I enjoyed it for a very long time...but when your look at iOS it seems more complete. Yea I love android and if I were to switch it would be difficult...another reason, look at the support for jb'd idevices...with android phones if u want good development then your selection of phones is really slimmed down.....for example, at Verizon they have a lot of cool phones, one of the best out now is the razr, but there's crappy development because of a locked bootloader...so its like if you don't get a nexus( or similar device) then your basically s.o.l. when it comes to development.. I think most people can agree that it sucks that u can't get the phone that you really want because you know there isn't great support behind it
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WP
I prefer windows.

Windows phone also looks very nice to...but Idk if its as looked down as what I think it might be lol
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iPad mini will defeat Nexus 7 and kindle fire?

Seems iPad mini will release, same 7" with different IOS, it will occupy the tablet market?

chanting said:
Seems iPad mini will release, same 7" with different IOS, it will occupy the tablet market?
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It's like phone, people who don't want customize interface and want friendly os buy ipad, and people who want to do everything possible with a tablet buy android one.
I've got an iPhone and now a nexus 7 and i didn't regret and go back. Apple it's over now

Was that a statement or a question? If it was a question then simply no, unless Apple do something about the price most people will compare the price of that with the price of other tablets in the same area, even then most people take into account screen size, storage size and price only for tablets, if you take screen size out of the equation then unless they lower the price people will generally decide to go with the cheaper product.
Also the Microsoft surface is out soon, yes it's 10" but it will surely steal audience away from the iPad mini if it's actually confirmed.
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No the Mini will not defeat the N7, there a totally different ball game.
As said before the iPad mini will be for those who don't really get what there doing, the N7 is for the enthusiasts who want control over their device.

If the ipad mini ends up being the size that everyone is speculating, it won't(to me) have the portability that the Nexus 7 sports.
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No doubt it will still sell millions even if it's pricy. Because wether we accept it or not, it has Apple logo and branding is what some people only care about.
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No doubt it will still sell millions even if it's pricy. Because wether we accept it or not, it has Apple logo and branding is what some people only care about.
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I agree, but Apple ?

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Of course it will. They are late for the 7" party, but it will be a great success.
But why should that matter? Competition is good. 7" size is perfect for a tablet, 10" is way too clumsy. In a few years time I'm pretty sure that 7" tablets will make up for majority of the sales.

this might be better option for most people
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2012/10/google_nexus_7_named_best_selling_android_tablet/

Who cares? How about we stop being so damn entrenched in our OS? Does it really matter to you if it succeeds or fails? Will your life change in any significant way?
What most interests me is another quality tablet in a crowded space. That should, in theory, force a price war and a spec war. Both benefit consumers.

Why so many Apple comments in the nexus 7 section. I don't want to read about apple everytime I am trying to read about nexus 7
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bmstrong said:
Who cares? How about we stop being so damn entrenched in our OS? Does it really matter to you if it succeeds or fails? Will your life change in any significant way?
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YES
Go Android!
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No offence guys, but I see the ipad mini being a massive hit, in the Australian market especially.
Because of its simple interface and ipad name. And how it syncs with itunes and iphones. That's what apple users want, they don't want customisation, individuality and tweaks like we do.
Although we android users are different to most of the community, some of don't understand how the normal person operates. They don't think to change the look, colours or performance, or to install a whole new interface. All they want is smoothness and usablity. And that is the ipad/iphone, my friends.
My 2 cents, Markj out

markj338 said:
No offence guys, but I see the ipad mini being a massive hit, in the Australian market especially.
Because of its simple interface and ipad name. And how it syncs with itunes and iphones. That's what apple users want, they don't want customisation, individuality and tweaks like we do.
Although we android users are different to most of the community, some of don't understand how the normal person operates. They don't think to change the look, colours or performance, or to install a whole new interface. All they want is smoothness and usablity. And that is the ipad/iphone, my friends.
My 2 cents, Markj out
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You said normal people.....
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tonybhoy said:
this might be better option for most people
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2012/10/google_nexus_7_named_best_selling_android_tablet/
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LOL I wondered for a couple of seconds whether it is u-switch or us-witch :silly:

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You said normal people.....
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I meant *normal* as in the average person. Not saying we are special, but we are not the *normal* population and target of apple devices
Sorry if I offended anyone lol

Meh. Some people will buy it BECAUSE it is an Apple product. I WON'T buy it for the same reason. I own a N7 because it is the best product for my current needs. I also own a TF300T as it is a great budget Android tablet.

This doesn't have anything to do with the Nexus 7
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