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Bluetooth Vibrating Bracelet

Just came across this article describing a bluetooth vibrating bracelet. Those of you who are interested could check it out here.
http://www.mobilehornet.com/archives/643

this is quite cool but does it have a microphone and speaker? or does it just vibrate. if not just by a vibrating headset, or buy the bluetoth watch then you can see who is calling.

Funny, I was just going to post this item myself.
I saw this one: http://www.netpcdirect.co.uk/bluetooth_vibrating_bracelet.php
My first thought was how silly it was.
Then I got to thinking about it.......
I wear my Advantage on my waist, when I'm in a high-noise area (which happens a lot for me) - I can't hear it ring. I keep my bluetooth headset on my wait in another case, not in my ear at all times.
This would take care of the problem.
Also, at night, I sometimes get calls from work in the middle of the night. I keep the audio on my phone low at night, but it usually wakes the wife up anyway. This would fix that problem - I could mute the phone at night, and hopefully the vibration would wake me.
Oh, one more thing - I don't know if the Advantage could have an item like this AND the normal bluetooth headset. I would need them both to be active - the bracelet to vibrate, and then put the headset on & pick up the phone & talk through my normal bluetooth headset.

I found ( not expensive) and perfect solution for Athena owners.
It's LG HBM-500 with OLED Display and vibra .
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jas_pik said:
I found ( not expensive) and perfect solution for Athena owners.
It's LG HBM-500 with OLED Display and vibra .
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The rationale for having the bracelet is that not all of us find it practical nor cool to put that 'thing' on our ear walking around and sleeping. This applies especially to people without many calls. If you get calls non stop, I supposed it is more convenient to wear something like LG HBM-500 all the time (not while sleeping though).
But people, let's come back to our senses. Why would you allow technology to ruin your lives to the extend of wanting to receive call while sleeping?

eaglesteve said:
The rationale for having the bracelet is that not all of us find it practical nor cool to put that 'thing' on our ear walking around and sleeping. This applies especially to people without many calls. If you get calls non stop, I supposed it is more convenient to wear something like LG HBM-500 all the time (not while sleeping though).
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Couldn't agree more.
eaglesteve said:
But people, let's come back to our senses. Why would you allow technology to ruin your lives to the extend of wanting to receive call while sleeping?
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Sadly, I can't agree less - for now anyway. My job means available 24x7. And I get the overnight call far too often for my tastes. So in my case, a solution that allows my job to wake me up without waking my wife up is a pretty good thing.

I don't like to have to much separate gadgets: one for vibrating socond to speak
Ours Athenas have a few functions in one - so I found this LG as good comapanion ( three functions in one - view number,get signal by vibra and speak.
It's small , use mini USB to charge - you can put in close your head near bed .
For me it's much better to wake up by vibrations .So I can check who is calling - OLED gives perfect view all the night .
Because our Athena is without vibra it's best solution IMHO.
I don't like to have it in ear all the time - it's allways on strip - easy to wear

polstein said:
Couldn't agree more.
Sadly, I can't agree less - for now anyway. My job means available 24x7. And I get the overnight call far too often for my tastes. So in my case, a solution that allows my job to wake me up without waking my wife up is a pretty good thing.
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Okay, I see where you're coming from now. Are you a doctor? Nurse? Emergency equipment maintenance engineer?

jas_pik said:
I don't like to have to much separate gadgets: one for vibrating socond to speak
Ours Athenas have a few functions in one - so I found this LG as good comapanion ( three functions in one - view number,get signal by vibra and speak.
It's small , use mini USB to charge - you can put in close your head near bed .
For me it's much better to wake up by vibrations .So I can check who is calling - OLED gives perfect view all the night .
Because our Athena is without vibra it's best solution IMHO.
I don't like to have it in ear all the time - it's allways on strip - easy to wear
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Ah, so you tie it to your wrist? How clever.

I have teenaged children who "spend the night" at friends houses. It is not unheard of to get a call during sleep from the kid, the other parent or (God forbid!) the police. If a call comes in the middle of the night, chances are it is not good news, but extremely urgent nonetheless. For me, a vibrate is far less jarring than a ringing phone.

A bluetooth watch is another alternative. It's advantage is that you could see who is calling, and you could control your MP3 player with it. The downside is it is very bulky and expensive as compared to the bracelet.
Not sure if they are compatible with Athena. Has anyone tried?
http://www.expansys.com.au/d.aspx?i=156733
Why they could make such tiny BT headset and still have to have such bulky BT watch? Why can't you talk into the watch without touching the phone?

eaglesteve said:
A bluetooth watch is another alternative. It's advantage is that you could see who is calling, and you could control your MP3 player with it. The downside is it is very bulky and expensive as compared to the bracelet.
Not sure if they are compatible with Athena. Has anyone tried?
http://www.expansys.com.au/d.aspx?i=156733
Why they could make such tiny BT headset and still have to have such bulky BT watch? Why can't you talk into the watch without touching the phone?
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if you look on the websight that is selling the bluetooth wristband in the 3rd post on page one of this thread they sell a BT watch for just £50.00 in classic or sports editions not 2 bad, but probably not as good as the sony/erricson one

eaglesteve said:
Okay, I see where you're coming from now. Are you a doctor? Nurse? Emergency equipment maintenance engineer?
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IT at a TV station. Among my responsibilities - support for our newsroom software (and someone is allllmost always at work since we run live news almost around the clock), and support for the computers that keep us on the air (which do run 24/7).
It's actually the reason I went from a normal pocketpc to the Advantage - we implemented a terminal server here, and it's not very usable on a smaller screen. But with the advantage, it's like Windows 2003 on your hip. Talk about small laptops

spzero said:
if you look on the websight that is selling the bluetooth wristband in the 3rd post on page one of this thread they sell a BT watch for just £50.00 in classic or sports editions not 2 bad, but probably not as good as the sony/erricson one
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I did some searching for other bluetooth watches, and saw the sony/erricson one - doesn't that only work with ericcson phones?

The Sony Bluetooth watches DO NOT work with any Windows Mobile Phone, they use a propritary comm format that doesnt work.
JetWare is supposed to be working on an updated version that is supposed to support the watches. I have been waiting for months for this.
I also have the Citizen Bluetooth watch, but all menus were in Japaneese and you could not have the Watch and a headset connected at the same time as both use the Headset profile.
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GuardianZX9 said:
you could not have the Watch and a headset connected at the same time as both use the Headset profile.
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This is my main concern. The bracelet (or watch) is useless to me if I can't use it alongside my normal bluetooth headset. I need the bracelet to vibrate, and I would then put on my bluetooth headset & hit the answer button on it.

polstein said:
This is my main concern. The bracelet (or watch) is useless to me if I can't use it alongside my normal bluetooth headset. I need the bracelet to vibrate, and I would then put on my bluetooth headset & hit the answer button on it.
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If none of the watches allows phone conversation and issue voice command to the device, it makes sense to me to have the bracelet as it is the least bulky.

Agreed there as well. I'm hoping to see some reviews. Before I spend the $, I would like to know about the working along the headset issue, and if it vibrates strong enough to possibly wake a sleeping person.

watch and headset
eaglesteve said:
A bluetooth watch is another alternative. It's advantage is that you could see who is calling, and you could control your MP3 player with it. The downside is it is very bulky and expensive as compared to the bracelet.
Not sure if they are compatible with Athena. Has anyone tried?
http://www.expansys.com.au/d.aspx?i=156733
Why they could make such tiny BT headset and still have to have such bulky BT watch? Why can't you talk into the watch without touching the phone?
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How about this? http://cgi.ebay.com/Bluetooth-Watch...ageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118

pkchainsaw said:
How about this? http://cgi.ebay.com/Bluetooth-Watch...ageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118
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Bingo!!
pkchainsaw,
Good find! This is exactly what I've been looking for, conceptually. Now it's a question of quality, reliability, and cost. Also, more information is needed its functionalities. For example, does it vibrate? If not, how would we use it during meeting? (its okay for me if it does not vibrate, since I'm already using "mosquitoes ring tone" during meeting now, and that works very well) Can you make call also, or only to take call? (would microsoft voice command work with this?) Will the watch comes off the wrist when I wear it to play golf or doing other exercises involving swinging of arms?
If anyone is already a user, please share your experience.

[REVIEW]Motorola S10-HD Stereo Bluetooth Headset

Howdy folks, your friendly neighborhood mod ashasaur here with a review of my new Motorola S10-HD stereo Bluetooth headset. As the name suggests, this is a Bluetooth headset that no only supports stereo sound, but REQUIRES a device that has stereo Bluetooth(A2DP) support, and that my friends...is what the HD2 has. Anywho, the review!
DEVICE-The device itself is really nice, great build quality. It comes with 4 sets of rubber ear dome-thingies so if you have giant ass ears like me you can switch the domes to ones that fit more snuggly. Included in the box are the domes, instructions and a Micro USB charger. The device has several physical buttons-Volume Up/Down, Play/Pause, Track Skip, Track Back, Power and End/Send. It is available in either jet black or silver.
SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS-As I said above, you have to have a device that has stereo Bluetooth capabilities, also known as A2DP, which the HD2(and many newer HTC devices) has. The S10-HD works with both Windows Mobile and Android from my personal testing. I am using the newest Energy ROM, and Froyostone Sense v3.2, and stereo sound and calling works great under both operating systems.
FEATURES-One of the best features of the S10-HD is that it's volume controls are independent of WinMo's or Android's. Meaning, you can have your device's volume at any setting, and the volume on the headset is independent of this setting, which means that you don't have to fiddle with the volume slider on the phone in order to get a reasonable level, you can use the buttons on the headset...and your normal ringtone/system volume remains unaffected on your device. Now, one downside is that system audio is NOT pushed to the headset, IE new text or e-mail notifications still play on the speaker of your device, which is kind of a downer. Another downside is that in order for phone call audio to be pushed to the headset, you MUST answer a phone call using the Call End/Send button the the headset itself. Using the screen or buttons on the phone to answer the call will default them to the mic/speaker of the phone instead. The last downside is that the buttons on the headset, other then Call End/Send and the volume keys don't actually do anything under WinMo. I am currently looking into this and will update if I find out how to make them work, as they do work under Android.
SOUND QUALITY-The S10-HD features, in my opinion, better than average sound quality. The range of the headset is pretty damn good in my opinion. I always keep my HD2 in a holster on my left side, and the sound, even when walking/jogging is consistent with no fuzziness or fade ins/outs. However, the microphone is rather far away from your mouth, on your right ear no less, so you do have to speak up for people to hear you on a call. The sound quality itself is rather good for wireless headphones, and almost comparable to the stock HTC wired headphones, or any other wired set for that matter.
BATTERY LIFE-The battery life of the S10-HD is actually pretty decent for a stereo headset. On standby you will easily get 5-6 days, and connected you will get 7ish hours of music listening and 8ish hours of talk. It takes around 3 hours to fully charge the battery from dead.
PRICE-The Motorola S10-HD is available from stores in the US such as Best-Buy and Target for around 80USD, sometimes a little lower(I got mine for 50 bucks on sale).
PROS/CONS
PROS:
Lightweight
Good sound quality
Good battery life
Decent price
CONS:
Hardware buttons don't do anything
Calls aren't always pushed to headset
System audio doesn't play through headset
FINAL SCORE-8/10
Overall, it's a great little stereo headset, and you really can't go wrong for the price. Highly recommended!
Check out my video review on my YouTube channel here:LINK COMING SOON!

motorolla hd rokr
the battery cannot be replaced either, @ 400 chargings.

Any Bluetooth headset or any setting that incase you answer the call from the handset the voice is pushed through Headset?

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An excellent device !!!! I have Motorola S9 HD, and Motorola S10 HD yet better...
I use more than 2 years, a battery holds fine!
Free hands works fine.
Necessarily I will purchase the update version of this device.
I am sorry for not correct English

is it fully compatible with my samsung galaxy GT I9100?
is it fully compatible with my samsung galaxy GT I9100?

REVIEWMotorola S10 HD Stereo Bluetooth Headset
Good afternoon guyfromtor. I tried that 15 day from BlueSoleil. Unfortunately, I keep getting errors "Your sound hardware cannot simultaneously play sounds and capture your voice. Im thinking it is just not compatible with the wind.
I dont know what else to try.
Thanks for your help. I may try someones mono BT headset and see if that works.

plz help!!!!!
vakas_2007 said:
is it fully compatible with my samsung galaxy GT I9100?
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can anyone help me???

S9s are way Better
Just Got the S10 after my S9 broke and here is what I think:
The S9-HD is way better than the S10-HD, Motorola really screwed up on this one in my opinion. The sound quality on the 10 compared to the 9 is terrible, bass is nearly non existent. The S9 was a little wider and shorter compared to the S10 which is more narrow and longer which means that the 9 fit comfortably and formed to the back of my neck so I could wear and big coat with a thick collar and still have nothing hanging off the back of my neck hitting my coast every time i turn my neck, and the damn ear buds fall off whenever I take em off my head.....I really wish I would have bought some replacement s9s instead of the new s10s they were way better.
so here is my two cents for anyone who cares........GET THE S9-HDs!!
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If your device has A2DP Bluetooth functionality then they will work, but get the S9's.

nice device works fine

In my opinion, I think the best Bluetooth headset is The Nokia bh-503
if you want a cheap pair you can pick them up on eBay for about 20-30 dollars
I Had mine for a year an some change and i have no complaints, I recommend them too all my friends, I use them at the gym 4 times a week, and i charge them on arrange once every two weeks, they hold a charge for a long time, Crisp clean sound
I tried the the Motorola S-9 HD and i had alot of problems with them playing music and just staying connected to my Phone HD2,
heres the link to Nokia bh- 503 on eBay, on sale for 19 dollars think i might pick up a spare pair =)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOKIA-BH-50...er_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item33711839e5

I got a S10-HD headphone from
http://www.digglove.com/black-red-s10-hd-s10hd-bluetooth-stereo-headset-headphone-for-motorola.html
excellent. i like it very much.

[Q] BlueTooth headset double click

Hello, I have the Samsung Galaxy SII and Nokia BLuetooth Headset BH-609.
The headset has a very good performance, great battery life, but I am experiencing one big problem: its big button gets easy double pressed in my pocket and it redials the last called number.
If I put both (phone & headset) in the same pocket, there are 90% chances that I will redial the last number accidentally.
I have tried two applications but none of them worked:
- Headset Droid
- Headset Button Controller
Both are from android market and offer 1 day fully functional trial. None of these two apps allowed me to reassign the headset's double click action.
Do you know any workaround or I have to buy a new headset?
Thanks

Developer of Headset Droid here.
While I can't be 100% certain for your case, your BlueTooth headset most likely checks for double clicks itself rather than depending on Android to do this. After it detects a double click it just tells Android to redial the last number rather than telling Android a button is clicked.
This makes it impossible to catch the clicks and handle them in order to prevent the redial. I think your best bet would be a new headset if you don't want to unpair the headset from your phone every time.

tvkanters said:
Developer of Headset Droid here.
While I can't be 100% certain for your case, your BlueTooth headset most likely checks for double clicks itself rather than depending on Android to do this. After it detects a double click it just tells Android to redial the last number rather than telling Android a button is clicked.
This makes it impossible to catch the clicks and handle them in order to prevent the redial. I think your best bet would be a new headset if you don't want to unpair the headset from your phone every time.
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Developer thanks for your feedback. I am thinking about ordering a new one. Do you know anything about Jawbone ERA Motion?

Unfortunately not. I don't really use Bluetooth headsets. All I know is that they're notorious for handing multiple clicks themselves.
My advice would be to go to a store and ask if you can test them before buying. You can use the headset monitor in Headset Droid to see how your phone responds to it. Since you're not really using using Headset Droid anyway, you can just clear data or reinstall after the trial runs out to keep using it.

Oh yeah actually I have few hours of trial left, I am uninstalling now

Gutted a nook color and perma-installed it in a Smart Car. :)

I've decided to do it! I gutted and installed a nook color in my stereo space. It works great and is way better than the stock radio for way cheaper than a 7" lcd head unit. Let me explain..
I gutted the nook and took measurements for its screen size against the opening of a double-DIN cavity for car stereos and height-wise it is perfect, but width, it falls a bit short. Went with it anyway, resoldered the home key to lead wires to a button on the face plate and covered up the spacing with some black plastic matching the housing. Works great! Power and volume buttons are also relocated. I'll keep the volume buttons as volume buttons until I get an external pre-amp with a volume potentiometer, see below. Once I get that set up, I'll re-map the volume buttons to back and menu for ease of navigation without button savior.
Heres the hiccup I had... I was planning on running the headphone jack output straight to the amp, turns out that was too quiet.. upon gutting the nook I realized that the speaker isnt soldered to the board, and only makes contact by springs. The speaker contact pads? Pre-amped, but outputs both channels through one output as opposed to headphone stereo.. For now, it sits as the pre-amped speaker output to amp and speakers, but I will be looking somewhere for a decent headphone/small preamp to run stereo to all 4 channels of my handy-dandy Sure 4x100w class D mini amp.
It has some serious volume for a 5x5" pcb with a heatsink! Running on a 19v 130w laptop charger off of a 12v inverter, I am able to get pretty good sound out of it. Because the power supply is a bit lacking, its nowhere near max quality/volume. Just loud enough to start to rumble the doors. I'd like to find a 12v to 32v 10a step up but I've not been able to find one.. Tried to wire a 12v to 5v dc step down converter to the nook's battery terminal but it failed to see it. Not sure of the wiring involved in there for detecting battery charge and voltage, but the battery has 5 wires. If anyone knows how I can wire this to run off of a 12v to 5v 1a USB charger, thatd be awesome...
So nook's speaker output -> amp input -> 4 speaker channels, one to each of the 4 speakers that I have in the car. Added two additional speakers in the rear pillar covers, in addition to the stock 2 in the doors. Swapped the stock ones for Polk 6.5" 100w speakers.
I didnt take too many pictures along the way but everything is so exposed you can see how all the wires are ran throughout the setup. I also added a headphone input to the RCA jacks so you can plug in a different player to the front of the unit straight to the amp but again, it wont be pre-amped. Works fine enough as is for phone conversations which is all I really plan on using it for anyway.
Heres pics of what I have as of now. I'll be either stencil spray painting or putting decals on to mark what the buttons do. Future volume potentiometer will go up top right. I'll put on a fancier aux bezel as well to clean that look up a bit.
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What I'm really curious about is if anyone knows an app that lets the nook receive audio from another device, and if I can control that device through the nook, essentially allowing me to run pandora or internet radio on my phone, and have it transmit to the nook. That's probably a far fetched app and very specific but I'd like to know if anyone knows of anything that they use for other purposes that may suit this.
Any input would be awesome. Again, I'm not going for pristine audio quality, just more functionality. It already sounds better than my stock radio and it adds way more functionality than stock as well. If you have any cool app suggestions for in car use, that'd be awesome too. (planning on running torque pro on it too, should be awesome for data logging and whatever else it can do... I'll let you know.)

That looks great! Well done! The separate controls are a very nice touch.
As far as pandora, etc. Why not install the applications on the nook and tether through your phone (maybe you gave an explanation, but I'm bouncing back and forth on look at this and work, mainly came for the pics )
Make sure you get tether GPS! If I ever decide to do something similar, I pay ping you for a write-up on doing this
Again, awesome job!

I already have tether GPS but its nothing without a data connection and I don't pay for tethering so id rather not use it. Same thing with Pandora.
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I don't know if I should be sorry for the Nook or stunned by your work...
Looking at my Nook, how it sits in it's Book Cover, dealing me joy with countless books, Music, Videos, Internet Browsing, etc. every day, I would feel kinda sorry tearing it apart.
However... I've got a feeling the Nook feels at home where you put him.

mhornfeck72205 said:
I already have tether GPS but its nothing without a data connection and I don't pay for tethering so id rather not use it. Same thing with Pandora.
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So why not root your phone and use a tethering app?
Google has their own wifi tether app (other than AOSP, which is usually ripped out or blocked).
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
There are also quite a few others on the market.

Nice work. Geez, the NC is the new car PC, between this and the Jeep guy (both beautiful jobs though)

Very impressive work! I'm blown away -- you did a great job.

I guess you voided your warranty by now.

How are you powering the Nook? through the proprietary cable?
I am puzzled about your 12 volt to 5v statement, and would think it would be ok to wire a usb connector to a 5V 2A+ regulator. (USB jack has to be configured for high power out spec like nook charger).

Thanks everyone!
I'm powering the nook from the nook wall charger also plugged into the 12v inverter straight to the charging usb port with the stock cable. I'd love to be able to have something wired straight to the battery terminals on the board so it would be a key-on-nook-on kind of setup or maybe switched so I dont have to leave the key in to listen to music.. That way I dont have to worry about keeping the battery charged up(it draws more than the charger puts out with the screen always on, so it slowly goes down)

biohazrd51 said:
So why not root your phone and use a tethering app?
Google has their own wifi tether app (other than AOSP, which is usually ripped out or blocked).
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
There are also quite a few others on the market.
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Phone is already rooted, customized in every way possible, and running Liberty rom. I have a droid x and last I heard when p3droid removed the tether patch from tbh app, they were either sending out texts to people found to be tethering, charging them for the monthly rate, or charging them for all of the data they've used.Id rather not end up having Verizon charge me for the tethering if they actually are doing that.

Why not get a bluetooth-to-audio adapter and put the receiver right next to the transmitter chip? Works great but short range which is no problem in a permanent install.
It would also give you a line level output and you wouldn't have to deal with the high pass filtering that nukes your low shelf.
I am not familiar with a bluetooth-to-line adapter, but, they must exist and can't cost more than $100....
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Looking to cut corners and just use the bluetooth that's built into both devices already. Last resort is buying extras..

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Phone is already rooted, customized in every way possible, and running Liberty rom. I have a droid x and last I heard when p3droid removed the tether patch from tbh app, they were either sending out texts to people found to be tethering, charging them for the monthly rate, or charging them for all of the data they've used.Id rather not end up having Verizon charge me for the tethering if they actually are doing that.
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I understand. I remember hearing about that, but thought it was iPhone users only. I get messages from tmobile only when I tether with my laptop, but changing the browser user agent gets around it (they also don't automatically add the charge like verizon and at&t). I think that is carrier's primary means of detection. I stream pandora in the car to my old iphone (I still have the dock) using tether on my phone and never had one issue.
An alternative would be great for you, but I don't see too many problems. Besides, if they tack it on, it'd only be $20 or so for a month then you can remove it from your plan.

tried to do it anyway with the link posted above for the google wireless tether and it still always brings me to the https://dunsp.vzw.com/newSelfProvisioning/SelfProvisioning website.
:-(

Heres a picture of my car running the torque pro app.
Its pretty sweet when the car tells you "Engine at operating temperature" and "Icy Conditions possible" and even more. There are countless gauges and graphs and widgets you can track with this app, only in the pro version. It is easily worth the $18+$5 for the dongle and app... amazing...

Only thing is you have ended up with mono sound and not stereo
no way!

Google voice search prompts do not obey volume sliders

On a Bluetooth headset, Google (voice) search prompt tones are intolerably loud. I use Persist+ & with all sliders @ zero, it just does its own loud prompt.
Is there a solution?
My workaround is to disable Google Search & let voice search 2.1.4 handle voice dialing.
Frustrated & not rooted!
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My solution. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/workaround-fix-loud-prompt-google-voice-t2725610

This is my biggest gripe with this phone, and android in general... Bluetooth sucks. For me, the initial prompt is so low you can't hear it while driving, and then the command response is like 20dB louder.
That's when it manages to send it over Bluetooth. Half the time it comes over the speaker, and sometimes half of it comes over one and then switches to the other.
I'm gonna ask Santa for an Android Bluetooth stack that actually works as expected; seems pretty clear Google and/or Motorola is incapable of delivering one.

Solutions Etcetera said:
This is my biggest gripe with this phone, and android in general... Bluetooth sucks. For me, the initial prompt is so low you can't hear it while driving, and then the command response is like 20dB louder.
That's when it manages to send it over Bluetooth. Half the time it comes over the speaker, and sometimes half of it comes over one and then switches to the other.
I'm gonna ask Santa for an Android Bluetooth stack that actually works as expected; seems pretty clear Google and/or Motorola is incapable of delivering one.
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Are you unrooted & what build?
I am glad to have voice search anyway!
My ERA, the mini, is great. Battery life is poor if you leave it on, but is great via the manual switch.

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Are you unrooted & what build?
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Unrooted, stock 4.4.2.

I got a FRU for a dim & slightly yellow screen with my month old phone. It worked with a much lower prompt tone.
Both phones have identical SW. So it could be a hardware issue.
BTW. After complaining about the bad FRU with WiFi not switching on at times & soft keys disappearing, Vzw CS is now sending a new phone out!

If you are talking about the prompt after you say "Okay Google Now" with that response volume being very low, this is an issue that Moto is aware of. For a temporary fix, from your home screen you can press the volume down button a few times, then turn it back up. That fixes it for me, usually until I have to restart the phone.
Try that and see if it works for you.

hbar98 said:
If you are talking about the prompt after you say "Okay Google Now" with that response volume being very low, this is an issue that Moto is aware of. For a temporary fix, from your home screen you can press the volume down button a few times, then turn it back up. That fixes it for me, usually until I have to restart the phone.
Try that and see if it works for you.
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This doesn't work for me. Bluetooth volume is seriously borked in 4.4 (and 4.4.2), and it behaves erratically. Even if I lower the volume, it jumps back up when playing podcasts after accessing touchless control. I have tried to fix it (re-pair bluetooth, clear cache, clear dalvik cache, factory reset, etc.).
Really sad that one of the biggest reasons to buy this phone doesn't work as expected when you would need it most (while driving). I keep hoping for a fix, but the last two that came down from Motorola (for the Assist app) broke more than it fixed. And Google's tainted history with its bloody bluetooth stack does not have me feeling confident that this will get cleared up anytime soon.
FWIW, it was working fine in 4.2.2, and it works fine in 4.4.2 with a Moto bluetooth headset... but third party bluetooth devices (Kinivo, LG, Logitech) act as if they are haunted.
Maybe its time to just roll over on Android and go back to iPhone.
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Solutions Etcetera said:
This doesn't work for me. Bluetooth volume is seriously borked in 4.4 (and 4.4.2), and it behaves erratically. Even if I lower the volume, it jumps back up when playing podcasts after accessing touchless control. I have tried to fix it (re-pair bluetooth, clear cache, clear dalvik cache, factory reset, etc.).
Really sad that one of the biggest reasons to buy this phone doesn't work as expected when you would need it most (while driving). I keep hoping for a fix, but the last two that came down from Motorola (for the Assist app) broke more than it fixed. And Google's tainted history with its bloody bluetooth stack does not have me feeling confident that this will get cleared up anytime soon.
FWIW, it was working fine in 4.2.2, and it works fine in 4.4.2 with a Moto bluetooth headset... but third party bluetooth devices (Kinivo, LG, Logitech) act as if they are haunted.
Maybe its time to just roll over on Android and go back to iPhone.
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I was talking about a different issue. There is a strange issue with the Moto Assist where, even if your volume is turned all the way up, the Moto Assist voice is extremely low. Adjusting the volume down, then up, is a temp fix to bring the Moto Assist voice back in line with the regular volume. The volumes jumping around issue is something different that I have not experienced yet with 4.4.2 (and I have my phone currently paired to no less than 4 different bluetooth speakers: a Miccus and a Jabra in the car, a Westinghouse speaker in the house, and a set of Plantronics ear buds).
Occasionally, when the Moto Assist voice is really low, the current song that is playing will also become low, but skipping the song fixes the problem. I have chatted with Moto techs, and they are working on the issue. (And I recall 4.2 bluetooth being more unstable in my use... 4.4 has fixed issues I was experiencing.)
You've listed several devices that have the volume jumping issue. Since you don't have any issues with the Moto headset, I wonder if maybe the receiving device isn't exactly compatible? What models of devices don't seem to work with your X? What version of Bluetooth are they on? Maybe that's something to investigate. And, yes, Google's bluetooth can be messy sometimes.
You may, of course, leave Android for the iPhone (or Windows phone). That is a personal choice. But I have several friends who have iPhones, and they have different issues that I, personally, couldn't put up with. If yours is the current state of bluetooth with certain devices, and you are certain that switching to an iPhone will fix that issue, then by all means do the switch.

hbar98 said:
You may, of course, leave Android for the iPhone
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That was more tongue in cheek than anything else.
In 4.4, Google attempted to unify bluetooth volume control. Beforehand, volume controls on hardware (LG Tone+ for instance) was independent of the bluetooth volume on the phone. This was no different than connecting an aux cable to an amp with its own volume control; adjusting the amp's volume control did not affect the output volume of the phone.
This makes a lot of sense as different devices have different sensitivities, and it is desirable to leave your phone's BT volume at a median level, and fine tune the audio level of each device using their own volume controls.
In 4.4, Google decided that BT devices that had their own volume controls should actually control the BT volume of the phone, and not their own input sensitivity. This may or not be a desirable feature for most (it wasn't for me), but that would be under the assumption that the implementation actually works as intended. It doesn't. Certainly not on the Kinivo BTC450 and the LG HBS730. These are popular, highly rated devices, and the end result of 4.4's changes are jumpy, nonlinear volume settings, where spots along the midpoint of the volume slider interface are significantly louder than those above it, and volume levels change depending on what you're doing on your phone.
I suppose one could write off these devices as incompatible, but these issues did not exist with them prior to 4.4, and do not exist on devices on other platforms running BT 4. And of course, BT is a standard that is supposed to be backward compatible for the protocols (A2DP in this case) that are supported.
I'm aware that 4.4 and above fixed some issues that existed in prior builds, but my recollection is that these were mostly connectivity problems. The changes to volume behavior was simply rancid icing on the cake. I just hope a fix is imminent as this is the single most frustrating bug I am experiencing on the Moto X.

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That was more tongue in cheek than anything else.
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I figured as much, but I'm of the opinion that if a piece of technology does not work how you want it to, or there are issues that are deal breakers for you, and a different piece of technology does address those issues, then you should switch. The comment was by no means intended to be snide or off handed: that is how I view technology (when I am able to afford it, natch).
In response to the new way that Android handles BT audio... I suppose I'm a different use case than you. Most of my stuff is either jerry rigged to work, or I don't notice the great difference in how it handles audio volumes. I can imagine how this can be frustrating when your volume jumps up and down, and for your sake I hope they do fix the issue.
I'd still be interested in seeing if there was a common theme to devices that do the audio shifts. However, it appears that it can be fixed. According to the following link, the volume controls work properly for the LG device you listed on the Nexus 5, running 4.4.2. Unless the Moto X has issues with that particular chip, you may (eventually) be in luck. (The Kinivo device is also listed, but not much more is said than the audio quality being awesome).
http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-x/346424-moto-x-bluetooth-apt-x-vs-nexus-5-sound-quality.html

Persist + may have made a difference for me on my FRU replacement, it was (being returned due to buggy HW & getting a new phone) working much better but had no time to test everything on 442.