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Bionic is great! But Droid Razr better?

I got the Bionic a couple weeks ago and it's been pretty awesome so far. But I saw the Razr pop up (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...l-core-processor-lte-support/?tag=epicStories) and kind of got bad a feeling that I shouldn't have been so hasty getting the Bionic.

I lost sleep over this too. Ultimately I resolved that I'd keep my Bionic. I can only imagine what the phones on the horizon with a 720p res display are going to do to the battery. Also, until we see more phones with the Ice Cream Sandwich O/S, I'm staying put.

Yeah, that RAZR is straight doinggggggggggggg

art0605 said:
I got the Bionic a couple weeks ago and it's been pretty awesome so far. But I saw the Razr pop up (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...l-core-processor-lte-support/?tag=epicStories) and kind of got bad a feeling that I shouldn't have been so hasty getting the Bionic.
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Honestly, this is how it's going to be for any piece of electronics you buy. "This is good but the next thing is better." If you keep waiting for the best thing ever you probably will never get anything. I say stick it out w the Bionic and when your upgrade comes up I'm sure the RAZR will look like Zach Morris' phone from Saved by the Bell (OK maybe not that bad).

I hear you
I get it no one wants to get a phone a 2 months later its replaced by a better one.however I love the bionic I have had one or two glitches unlike others I just got lucky. Its super fast I think the screen looks great and I watch Netflix. The pentile screen also uses a small amount o of battery compared to the other screens

id return my bionic if you guys updated from the charge or thunderbolt and wait for this droid razr, its going to be sick
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They won't post a release date until last minute. I think the Bionic was a placeholder at this point, they just wanted the name to make them money. This device will probably be leaps(maybe not bounds) better.

I don't think it will be a huge improvement.. Honestly as of right now I see no need to upgrade my phone I have yet to find anything that would slow down my phone. Never really experienced lag and flash runs smooth... After I installed DroidTh3ory's ROM my phone has had 100x better battery life as well...

It's announced today - coming early Nov to VZW
From PC World's review
There's a 1.2 GHz dual-core processor, a 4.3-inch Super AMOLED qHD display (that's 960-pixel by 540-pixel resolution), an 8-megapixel rear-facing camera with 1080p video capture, an HD front-facing camera, and 32 GB of memory, split between internal storage and a microSD card. It's also a 4G LTE phone.
On the outside, the Droid Razr sports laser-cut woven Kevlar fiber and a Gorilla Glass display, highlighted by aluminum accents and wrapped around a stainless steel core. A splash guard is designed to protect the phone from flying liquids.
Motorola's stuffed a 1,780 mAh battery into the Droid Razr, and claims that will give a user 12.5 hours of 3G talk time or 8.9 hours of video playback
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It's announced today - coming early Nov to VZW
From PC World's review
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Yup, I've been tracking it all morning. So as of now, I'm on the fence about selling my Bionic for that bad boy. What to do, what to do?

Sure the material looks better in theory, same RAM 200 mhz more? Wonder how much extra performance you will see. Super Amoled with pentile subpixel display right? Not sure about this one team, I also feel kinda torn.

I currently have a partially working Thunderbolt and was going to switch out for a Bionic on Friday, until I saw the RAZR announcement this morning. I went over the specs and hardware/software wise there are no major differences whatsoever... The appeal of the RAZR seems to be it's design. It's "pretty" and built to take a beating. Looks like you could beat someone to death with it and it will still function 100%.
I am now debating if I should still get the Bionic or hold on to this Thunderbolt a bit longer and get the RAZR. What bothers me is they say they are taking pre-orders on the 27th but no one(not even Verizon) will say when the phone will actually be released.

In b4 we see an article "Nerd beat to death by RAZR smartphone... PZNERD"

2-3 months after the RAZR comes out, HTC or Samsung will release something you wish you would have waited for. I waited 10 months for the BIONIC, I'm going to enjoy this badboy for as long as I can. I've learned not to look forward to any more phones in the future. Unless you are willing to buy a new phone every 2-3 months, you will never have the best for long.
Maybe Verizon should consider leasing these phones as the technology is growing faster than most people's wallets can afford.
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How much you all want to bet the GSIII will be out by February? That'll be the phone of all phones.

While the Razr does look good it doesn't look like it will be leaps and abounds above the bionic, plus it has a locked bootloader also, so you would be in the same no custom kernal boat. With DroidTh3ory's Blurr3d and D3Blurr3ed ROMs i don't see the need to jump ship yet. Now maybe when the Nexus or another powerful phone with an unlocked bootloader comes out then i would consider it, but after investing the money in the Bionic i couldn't imagine paying full retail price, probably between $500-$600, for another phone so quickly.

There will ALWAYS be something better in the future! Get what you want and enjoy it. Don't beat yourself up for buying what you have because a new one is coming out soon. And those of you without a bionic, don't b*tch at people who have it by saying they should have waited.
The Bionic is a great piece of work.
Of course there will be better phones soon, but Android can always put out an update that makes the current devices even better.
~INB4 i smack somebody~

I think the Bionic will be a better phone because they will probably try and make the razor too sleek and have to sacrifice things such as battery life and hardware just my 2 cents

Non-removable battery yuck. Wonder if the prime will be the same?

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Non-removable battery yuck. Wonder if the prime will be the same?
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I like having an external battery so I can pop it out when needed...
And...internal battery means no Extended Battery...you're stuck with what ya got.

Atrix HD OBTAINED!

What's up fellow Atrix HD owners! I just picked up the AHD today and am absolutely loving the phone!
I switched over from the GS3 so I am getting a little used to the forum section we have here..Lol but hey I've been following the threads since this section was created! I can't wait for the Developing to begin! The phone is still new so I understand for very slow development at the moment but for now I am enjoying the phone regardless of root or any ROMs!
This community we got so far seems great and I hope to get this phone's full potential out with you guys! :fingers-crossed:
First thing I noticed was the Notification LED!! So happy this phone had it! Made the switch slightly easier haha, also glad to say it is MULT-COLORED!! So we are able to change the color! (Light Flow Lite is the app I used its Free)
How are you guys holding up with the phone thus far?? Especially those whom had the GS3?? You guys enjoying this phone as much as I am?!

Can I ask what made you swap phones?

I love the phone i had the s3 for a day and couldn't stand the feel of the phone or touchwiz. I had the one x which i loved and sold for this and i haven't missed it yet. The one thing i gave up is the battery life but i have an anker battery pack to charge it so it doesn't bother me that much. I think the detail in the screen is amazing coming from my eyes.
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I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that loves this phone! It why the hox dropped on price. The phone its really smooth and so close to ics you have too love it. I also heard that a juice pack case us coming out next month for this bad boy so everyone better be ready.. Yea working at an Att store i get to play with all the phones, the gs3 is a bit better do to the 2gb ram but that's really it. I hate the blue tint you can see on the gs3, after using this phone. Also if you have used the native email on thus phone you're missing out its way better than gmail.... I just hope the new update will fix the camera thing
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Wow.. pretty interesting.. you swapped the GS3 for the AHD? Am curious what caused you to make the switch other than the blue tint on the screen. Most people rave about the GS3! And now that the dust has settled from the fiasco with Amazon when I ordered my AHD, I am back to square one trying to decide which phone is best. ATT has bent over backwards for me and is matching any deal I can get from Amazon on the GS3, HOX or AHD so needless to say I'm going to order from ATT directly.
And now that the HOX is the same price as the AHD, it makes the choice a bit more difficult. From what I understand the HOX battery lasts longer and the camera is superior, but the lack of multi-tasking and the hardware/software issues with the phone don't make it that appealing. So the choice now is really between the GS3 and the AHD. With Sammy selling over 10 million GS3's there's obviously tons of people that love the phone, while Moto is far behind in all ways. And it also appears its not likely this phone will get a JB update either.. Any advice you folks can lend? Thanks.

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Can I ask what made you swap phones?
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Yeah mainly I swapped because i really love the feel of the AHD. It feels very firm and well built in hand compared to the GS3. Surprisingly IMO it feels a tad bit lighter as well so I liked that as well. Don't get me wrong though not only build quality but touch wiz was also another reason. It wasn't cutting it for me, the fact the AHD was very ICS and lightly skinned by Moto was a big win! Also spec wise both are very similar! Only setting them apart is the battery and ram but i haven't noticed any problems within those area thus far. Using juice defender and the provided Smart Battery Extender really helped out alot!
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I totally understand how you feel! After having the GS3 for close to a month I was able to really get accustomed to touch wiz and it want quite what i was looking for..it did have ICS embedded but idk there was just something missing. Something theAHD has makes me not miss the GS3 at all haha.
Oh and the display...man just amazing so much clearer and crisp IMO smaller screen but not by much this is just right for me! Loving that color boost!
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tacotino said:
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that loves this phone! It why the hox dropped on price. The phone its really smooth and so close to ics you have too love it. I also heard that a juice pack case us coming out next month for this bad boy so everyone better be ready.. Yea working at an Att store i get to play with all the phones, the gs3 is a bit better do to the 2gb ram but that's really it. I hate the blue tint you can see on the gs3, after using this phone. Also if you have used the native email on thus phone you're missing out its way better than gmail.... I just hope the new update will fix the camera thing
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Haha yeah this phone is just amazing! About the blue tint is very true! Coming from the GS3 I've noticed whites on this phone are very true! Colors just seem more natural as opposed to being very saturated on the GS3 !
I was thinking about getting the HOX but despite having no external micro sd slot that was a deal beaker for me. Also I'm very exited to hear our phones are capable of using a 64gb micro sd as opposed to the advertised 32gb!
And yes only downsides to me are the battery and ram but with juice defender and batt ext. I've noticed nothing less on usage time I was experiencing with the GS3!
Using the gmail app atm since my google account was synced but i have to check that out!
The camera could use a good update actually. Another possible win for the GS3 and HOX is the camera but honestly I've been able to take decent pictures nonetheless!
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nuance4u said:
Wow.. pretty interesting.. you swapped the GS3 for the AHD? Am curious what caused you to make the switch other than the blue tint on the screen. Most people rave about the GS3! And now that the dust has settled from the fiasco with Amazon when I ordered my AHD, I am back to square one trying to decide which phone is best. ATT has bent over backwards for me and is matching any deal I can get from Amazon on the GS3, HOX or AHD so needless to say I'm going to order from ATT directly.
And now that the HOX is the same price as the AHD, it makes the choice a bit more difficult. From what I understand the HOX battery lasts longer and the camera is superior, but the lack of multi-tasking and the hardware/software issues with the phone don't make it that appealing. So the choice now is really between the GS3 and the AHD. With Sammy selling over 10 million GS3's there's obviously tons of people that love the phone, while Moto is far behind in all ways. And it also appears its not likely this phone will get a JB update either.. Any advice you folks can lend? Thanks.
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Getting a price match at ATT is unheard of for me so your actually in a very good position haha. Since your choice had dwindled down to just the AHD and the GS3 it'll be a little tough and I'd say at this point it would be total preference.
Coming from the GS3 the only feature i am current missing is the camera. Yes it did have 2gb ram and bigger screen etc. but the screen is incomparable to the AHD IMHO side by side its noticeable in color hues, quality, clarity. Both are HD i believe the GS3 is using the pentile display still so i was noticing that a lot. With the AHD it was more of a natural look to me which i really love!
As far as battery i did mention that with the use of juice defender and the Smart Actions Battery Extender I'm Sweeting the same amount of usage i had on the GS3! So I'm really only missing out on the camera and ram at this point.
If you really are in a bind though..what i can suggest is you do a trial of both phones, i believe ATT offers a 30 day exchange period, so you can test each phone for 2 weeks to get a good feel Of both phones before actually making a final decision! That is exactly what i did and i couldn't be more happier with my choice haha.
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Well I went to the ATT store and chatted for a while with a rep that's a big Atrix fan.. he has an Atrix 2 that he's rooted etc.. Another very important point to me is when/if the device gets the JB update since Google Now is amazing. My concern about the AHD is that Moto may never unlock the boot loader and may take ages if ever to update to JB. We already know Sammy may send out the update as early as next month or at least before the holidays if not sooner. And the GS3 in garnet red is a very sexy looking device, though it's not as sturdy as the AHD. Since Sammy has sold over 10 million it has quite a following. The only question is am I going to be one of them. At $100 its a lot of phone but I do have concerns about how long the physical home button will last and if it will last. I actually was going to get a GS3 until the AHD came out but now.. I just don't know.

nuance4u said:
Well I went to the ATT store and chatted for a while with a rep that's a big Atrix fan.. he has an Atrix 2 that he's rooted etc.. Another very important point to me is when/if the device gets the JB update since Google Now is amazing. My concern about the AHD is that Moto may never unlock the boot loader and may take ages if ever to update to JB. We already know Sammy may send out the update as early as next month or at least before the holidays if not sooner. And the GS3 in garnet red is a very sexy looking device, though it's not as sturdy as the AHD. Since Sammy has sold over 10 million it has quite a following. The only question is am I going to be one of them. At $100 its a lot of phone but I do have concerns about how long the physical home button will last and if it will last. I actually was going to get a GS3 until the AHD came out but now.. I just don't know.
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Thats a good point. We all know Moto has been very annoying with the BL being locked and taking forever with updates sometimes never, but both previous Atrix devices were capable of porting over ICS not officially though. So i believe that if we don't"officially" get JB down the line if we achieve root access and a possible BL unlock we will also get a port of some sort!
Though it is still too early to say at this time the AHD isn't a month old yet. but if your concern for choosing a device is mainly on official updates this being JB, then the GS3 is the way to go.
Also the color of choice as well. I did mention however in another thread that each color of the GS3 had defects with the back covers. I had the white one and even though i skin cased it from ghost armor from day 1 it still managed to have a horrible crack. The blue GS3 had paint smudges with the back cover, so as far as the red I'm not sure, but what i can say is for build quality i will vouch for the AHD. It feels premium in hand not to mention the kevlar just looks so good IMO very study phone. And to me personally the AHD felt lighter in hand.
I Hope that was of some help, but honestly whichever device you choose its a winner, both phones are in the top right now and you cant go wrong with either device! Good luck!
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Chcl8bananamagk said:
Thats a good point. We all know Moto has been very annoying with the BL being locked and taking forever with updates sometimes never, but both previous Atrix devices were capable of porting over ICS not officially though. So i believe that if we don't"officially" get JB down the line if we achieve root access and a possible BL unlock we will also get a port of some sort!
Though it is still too early to say at this time the AHD isn't a month old yet. but if your concern for choosing a device is mainly on official updates this being JB, then the GS3 is the way to go.
Also the color of choice as well. I did mention however in another thread that each color of the GS3 had defects with the back covers. I had the white one and even though i skin cased it from ghost armor from day 1 it still managed to have a horrible crack. The blue GS3 had paint smudges with the back cover, so as far as the red I'm not sure, but what i can say is for build quality i will vouch for the AHD. It feels premium in hand not to mention the kevlar just looks so good IMO very study phone. And to me personally the AHD felt lighter in hand.
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With the level of security Moto has used this time around, making even rooting the thing a royal pain in the ****, I certainly wouldn't hold my breath waiting on a bl unlock....The Atrix 2 wasn't even this secure and it's bl still remains locked to this day. I have heard of GS3's cracking, but that's not something inherent to the color of the phone. Until it becomes a widespread issue I have to believe it's simply due to user error....many of us for years have been simply ripping our battery covers off like we always do cause the materials we're used to could handle it and they were so thick it was a non-issue. The plastic used on the GS3 battery cover is very thin so it makes sense that during removal the cover can be bent a little too far causing the cracks to happen. The fact of the matter is we have no idea what the users did or didn't do to cause the physical damage. Just like the one guy who claimed his phone spontaneously combusted while charging it in his car....and the issues with the blue battery covers was for the international versions of the phone, I haven't heard of any finish issues with the blue covers on any domestic GS3's.

The bootloaders WILL be unlocked, expect the tool to land somewhere between October & December. I'm hoping to see root before the tool, as I've never been a big fan of voiding warranty officially VIA the manufacturer...
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IP IHI II IL said:
The bootloaders WILL be unlocked, expect the tool to land somewhere between October & December. I'm hoping to see root before the tool, as I've never been a big fan of voiding warranty officially VIA the manufacturer...
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Motorola has not said anything about the Atrix HD other than that it ships with a locked bootloader.

mattlgroff said:
Motorola has not said anything about the Atrix HD other than that it ships with a locked bootloader.
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Though Moto did say future devices will begin receiving Webkits for BL unlocks maybe they'll have a change of heart with our device considering its the first device released when moto and google got together possibly? Fingers crossed haha
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You have me swetting here deciding myself.. I purchased the HD then ended up taking it back...Comcerned it would never get root and battery life.. I ended up getting a Nitro than after having CWM foul, I bricked the phone (waiting on a refurb tomorrow). Good news is my nephew needs a phone I keep thinking I should give him the Nitro and order the HD in white. The black was very boring yet the white looks nice.
I also own a HOX and Nexus both are great phones all have their drawbacks.
Nexus: Amoled , mever really noticed till playing with a HOX for awhile also NO LTE other than that smooth phone.
HOX just not sure I really like it though it does seem large and has some other minor draws I just don't really like.
I know just friggin spoiled yet hey..LOL

lmarranzino said:
You have me swetting here deciding myself.. I purchased the HD then ended up taking it back...Comcerned it would never get root and battery life.. I ended up getting a Nitro than after having CWM foul, I bricked the phone (waiting on a refurb tomorrow). Good news is my nephew needs a phone I keep thinking I should give him the Nitro and order the HD in white. The black was very boring yet the white looks nice.
I also own a HOX and Nexus both are great phones all have their drawbacks.
Nexus: Amoled , mever really noticed till playing with a HOX for awhile also NO LTE other than that smooth phone.
HOX just not sure I really like it though it does seem large and has some other minor draws I just don't really like.
I know just friggin spoiled yet hey..LOL
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That's awesome man you got plenty of phones to choose from haha! Reminds me of myself though i airways switch between phones!
Personally while i did have the gs3 in white i also wanted the AHD in white although radio shack did not carry that color in store, but i would really love the white color, it would make me love the phone even way more!
Though how did you like the phone regardless of color while you owned it? If you do decide to go back and pick this bad boy up regardless of no root atm it's a solid device!
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I to switched from the gs3. I loved the phone, but just like my previous Samsung device i didn't get a signal in my living room. So far with the ahd i get 2-3 bars in my living room.
With that being said, i do feel like i downgraded. However the main reason to have a phone is to be able to use it as a phone, right? Lol
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I just got this phone yesterday and to be honest it's a big improvement over the galaxy nexus. Even without jelly bean this phone is smoother and faster.
I will post my battery life later today. I think my phone is going to last 4 days with normal usage. I do use it but not a 8 hour a day type usage..LOL
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Buying a Razr phone.

Hey guys,
Having a Defy for 2 years now, gives me the opportunity to get a new phone. Not wanting a Iphone or sgs3, simply because they are TO mainstream (no hipster) and the sgs is ugly as fck. The razr i cought my eye. Not only because of its look but alsofl because of its hardware. Only I had a problem with my defy, I am affraid of to have with this device too. Motorola makes awefull roms and kernels. I saw how on stock rom the razr i got owned Buys the sgs3 simply because of the rom. The performance made by Samsung is mostly because of the rom. But the moto users are do damn lucky with the community. I remeber Quarx giving the defy an icredible boost. So I was wondering: is it worth it to buy a razr i or razr hd? And will we get eventualy good working roms that will peform as good as the sgs3? And which phone is better: the razr i or razr hd (i prefere Intel dat_fanboy)? Thanks in advance
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I'm also interested in the responses this thread might get. I'm currently a Defy owner, and I'm also looking forwards the Razr i as my next phone (The battery duration and Intel's chip got to me, and here in Argentina, the phone is currently on presale). I'm wondering what led to the current owners to purchase the I instead of the m or hd, and if their expectations were fulfilled so far.

I don't have the choice of the M here but I chose to buy this device instead of waiting for the HD because I loved the georgous edge-to-edge screen and the design overall and because I'm a Motorola fanboy. But the phone even lifted my expectations: I got superb battery life, great performance and yes the screen really is a beauty.
Definetly worth the buy, you won't be disappointed at all!

is it worth to buy an atrix hd ?

hey guys !
using a note n7000 now and was planning of changing my phone !
is atrix hd worth buying now after i sell my note ?
pls let me know !
thanks..

Ya its best phone the display amazing truly gorgeous u should not feel bad when u use it
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L7iharsha said:
Ya its best phone the display amazing truly gorgeous u should not feel bad when u use it
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how is the battery life ?
camera (still and video) ?
audio quality ?
pls describe any unique features also if any !
and mainly does it support usb otg ?
thanks..

Go for a Note II, you wont see much improvement if you choose the Atrix HD. Besides it doesn't have a lot of development yet, and the battery life is not that great.
At least If I had the Note, I wouldn't pick the Atrix HD

You can EASILY put into Atrix HD 3300mAh Droid Razr MAXX's battery (EB40) and battery life will be DA BEST!!
With that battery phone is actually 1,5mm thicker!
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And any comments about camera video and audio quality??
And usb Otg??
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aaki_rocker said:
And any comments about camera video and audio quality??
And usb Otg??
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There are several reviews on the net. Google is a search engine. Check it out.
Also, your signature is obnoxious.

adamr240 said:
There are several reviews on the net. Google is a search engine. Check it out.
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just want to be sure before buying this phone !
i asked these questions just to know how the phone is and that i can get the answers straight from the users who are using the device !
if i like it, i'll buy it !
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Also, your signature is obnoxious.
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and yeah i like irritating people !!

neondunker said:
Go for a Note II, you wont see much improvement if you choose the Atrix HD. Besides it doesn't have a lot of development yet, and the battery life is not that great.
At least If I had the Note, I wouldn't pick the Atrix HD
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+1 the atrix HD isn't "better" than your note. Not only not much development consider in its really old, its barely got any accessories available. Battery is quite bad.
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also i just got an offer from a friend of mine !
his ahd + 50-60$ and my note in exchange !
what should i do ?
thanks...

no.
no development.
**** battery life
**** camera
buy a nexus 4

centipedes said:
no.
no development.
**** battery life
**** camera
buy a nexus 4
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Dude, we've been unlocked for 4 days now....you gotta be more patient for the development to pick up.
Battery life isn't that bad when the rom has been debloated -- I get around 24+ hours per charge on a slim Mex Retail; plus there's the MAXX battery mod...
The camera is good enough to take decent pictures in decent lighting, especially if HDR can be effectively used. Personally, I don't judge a phone by the camera quality since a phone's camera will never compete with an actual camera (at least not for a few more years).
If you can get an AHD on the cheap then its a good phone.
I was going to up some pictures I've taken, but I accidentally wiped them in a factory reset...they were private on instant upload, but they're gone from there too. I had two that were the same, only difference was HDR on and off (bobtail kitty on a Harley seat sleeping)

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Dude, we've been unlocked for 4 days now....you gotta be more patient for the development to pick up.
Battery life isn't that bad when the rom has been debloated -- I get around 24+ hours per charge on a slim Mex Retail; plus there's the MAXX battery mod...
The camera is good enough to take decent pictures in decent lighting, especially if HDR can be effectively used. Personally, I don't judge a phone by the camera quality since a phone's camera will never compete with an actual camera (at least not for a few more years).
If you can get an AHD on the cheap then its a good phone.
I was going to up some pictures I've taken, but I accidentally wiped them in a factory reset...they were private on instant upload, but they're gone from there too. I had two that were the same, only difference was HDR on and off (bobtail kitty on a Harley seat sleeping)
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The camera is decent in good lighting, but in anything less the pictures are crap.

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The camera is decent in good lighting, but in anything less the pictures are crap.
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I agree, but that's been my experience with ANY cell camera. Some are better than others, but if someone is really into taking pictures all the time they're better off just getting a dedicated camera.
The AHD is a really good phone and the unlocked bootloader makes it that much better. This is a Motorola phone with an unlocked bootloader so we get the best of both worlds -- unlocked bootloader and superior Motorola build quality. We buy Moto phones because we can throw them full strength at a tree and it'll bounce off and won't break, not because they take good pictures.
The worst I've ever done to a Moto Android Phone was wear out the volume buttons with CWM (Bravo) and drop it 8+ times onto concrete before the screen cracked (again, Bravo). I had an Old School Moto RAZR flip that I ran over, threw at a tree, literally ripped the top half off (no screen at all) and it worked for 3 months untill I upgraded the contract and got an iPhone3Gs (ugh) and traded that for my first Android phone -- Motorola Bravo.
The worst thing about Moto phones now is that Dan isn't gonna make root exploits for us so I either gotta start buying the Dev Editions or switch to another brand, probably Sony.

thanks for your time guys !
i will think about it and decide accordingly !
thanks..

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Dude, we've been unlocked for 4 days now....you gotta be more patient for the development to pick up.
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it's not going to pick up.

Don't u Have patience? Devs are working to bring custom roms? They are not aliens to release ROM within minutes It may take time !
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Atrix HD has a gorgeous screen and build quality. My sisters are using Note and Note 2. Software is good but the build quality sucks. It's all covered with plastics. Doesn't seem to be a high end smartphones.
If you don't mind with prices and build quality,go for Note 2. Note 2 is almost half price of Atrix HD. I would consider buying a notebook over a phone with the same high price.
Camera quality of AHD is almost same as Note in a good light condition. But in a low light it's worse. Sound via speaker is better than Note. But,I haven't compared both in headset quality.
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centipedes said:
no.
no development.
**** battery life
**** camera
buy a nexus 4
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I had a nexus 4 16gb. Got it on the 2nd round in Nov 2012. Got it RMA replaced Dec 2012. No otg, no external storage. It has interesting features, you have to buy miracast device, compatible qi wireless charging and NFC is iffy. Worked fine, but IMHO a boring bland device. I tend to do more with the AHD as is..
I personally only root for adaway and a few root apps.
N4's camera isn't any better, but it's battery life is. Its also less bloated.
I also get much better signal with the AHD. That said its my backup phone until the xphone drops.
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L7iharsha said:
Don't u Have patience? Devs are working to bring custom roms? They are not aliens to release ROM within minutes It may take time !
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I agree. I currently have an Atrix 2, which doesn't even have an unlocked bootloader. And even for that phone, the XDA forums are fairly active, with new JellyBean-based ROM builds coming out several times a month. For example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050705
I would expect that the Atrix HD, being a newer phone with an unlocked bootloader, will see at least as much development as the Atrix 2.

Thinking of trading my SG S3 for a Atrix HD

Do you think this would be a good trade? I have always liked Motorola, but my main questions...has the camera quality improved with the Jelly Bean update? Is the camera quality as bad as the reviews say? I'm not even how sure bad the quality was before Jelly Bean. Also, how is the speakerphone quality? Is it clear/loud?

I think the camera quality is great no problems here and the speaker is loud and clear definitely!! My friend has a s3 and I would definitely take my HD over it. The quality of this phone is way better than the s3 also!!
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drogers81 said:
Do you think this would be a good trade? I have always liked Motorola, but my main questions...has the camera quality improved with the Jelly Bean update? Is the camera quality as bad as the reviews say? I'm not even how sure bad the quality was before Jelly Bean. Also, how is the speakerphone quality? Is it clear/loud?
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I had a chance to get an S3, I prefer the Atrix. I can't really say anything about the quality of the camera because I've never really payed attention to it, and I don't use speaker But the ROMs here are really starting to pick up and all that's left is the camcorder, and we've got amazing devs such as dhacker29, hashcode, and the famous dan rosenberg was here a while too. Dhacker and hashcode are working on a 3.4 kernel so it'll get good soon. And i think the community here is awesome and give the best advice. In my opinion i think the atrix is a good trade

Your s3 camera is superior to ours just because of Sammy's software. You may notice a difference. Lowlight shots are pretty bad on the ahd. Otherwise its a good camera. Motorola has a better feel and build quality over the s3 any day.
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What they said. We buy Motorola because a Motorola is the only phone I've thrown pissed off hard from a truck at 25 miles per hour into a tree 30 ft away (a one in a million lucky shot), have that phone get rained on over night, and still work just fine without a scratch in the morning when it was found -- a razr flip phone....Only 25 mph cause you can only accelerate so fast on a gravel road
The camera will do in a pinch in decent lighting. Its not the worst but nothing to really brag about either. I will say that the HDR photos look good in stock jellybean, even in sup par lighting. Customs roms don't have HDR yet, or camcorder, but it's being actively worked on by talented developers.

Its a very solid device. I traded my One x for it and I'm very happy. Build quality is great and battery life is better than the One X. I feel as if the camera is good but the software is lacking. When using Instagram everything comes out crisp and clear. When using the stock camera pictures come out grainy. The speaker is loud without being muffled. Development is really starting to pick up which is great. Great phone.
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Thanks for all the input! I have decided that I am definitely going to trade. Seems like a very solid device and motorola has always made good hardware. At least the camera "issues" can always be improved with software.
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When I upgraded contracts earlier this year, I could have gotten the S3. I looked on XDA and saw the difference in development, but thought, its a Motorola, it'll pick up...never did I imagine that a few weeks later we'd be unlocked and the development would REALLY pick up. This is the best of both worlds. Motorola Quality with Unlocked Bootloader Development -- you can't ask for much more in the Android World.
I'll also say that our Development Team are some of the best devs on XDA. The things they've accomplished over the years is amazing -- I've followed some of our devs since I first started using Android.

nononono

Don't listen to that guy.. Always complains lol.
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I have 2 mint atrix HD, I willing to trade
I have a white and black one (both sim unlocked) running orginal firmware

DJ_MiX said:
I have 2 mint atrix HD, I willing to trade
I have a white and black one (both sim unlocked) running orginal firmware
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This isn't a forum for selling or dealing. Take it elsewhere
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I love my atrix HD and the s3 is a decent phone, I've had very little time to really work with it. The Atrix really does have a better quality build wise and minus all the touchwiz Lol. I've had my atrix for about 6 months and its been by far my favorite phone since the Droid 1
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DJ_MiX said:
I have 2 mint atrix HD, I willing to trade
I have a white and black one (both sim unlocked) running orginal firmware
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PM @EcHoFiiVe, he's trying to get into kanging roms for us and needs a new one...and keep it private.
Youngunn2008's right, can only Sell on Swappa..putting a link in your signature is the best you can do on XDA to sell/trade.
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This isn't a forum for selling or dealing. Take it elsewhere
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+1
It sucks, but those are the rules.

deeje00 said:
Don't listen to that guy.. Always complains lol.
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The S3 has everything this phone has and more, including a better camera and custom ROMs with not only everything working, but also tweaked kernels that don't cause the phone to randomly reboot or have horrible battery life.
There is literally no reason to trade the S3 for this phone unless you drop/throw your phone at a wall constantly.

The battery life has a simple solution. Put the eb40 battery in. Then it trumps the galaxy. And I haven't had any random reboots on any of the new Roms.
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last time i checked people were still having problems with battery swelling with the eb40.
also battery life alone does not trump the s3

centipedes said:
last time i checked people were still having problems with battery swelling with the eb40.
also battery life alone does not trump the s3
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Been running maxx mod with NO SWELLING. And build quality on s3 is sh!t. My phone shouldn't creak when I hold it. Everything else is great because Samsung doesn't secure their sh!t and the devs had A 6 MONTH HEADSTART ON US.
Why don't you trade for a s3 and be gone, or stay and HELP US. Cuz we are doing our very best to even have custom Roms. Do you want to go back a couple months to that purgatory we were stuck in? In a couple months maybe it'll even be up to your standards. Or maybe you'll find ANOTHER ISSUE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT.
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The only thing that has lag with the atrix is any topic you comment on and complain about. You just bog down this whole forum!!!!! Nobody wants to here it anymore!! Thanks
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tember1214 said:
The only thing that has lag with the atrix is any topic you comment on and complain about. You just bog down this whole forum!!!!! Nobody wants to here it anymore!! Thanks
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