Very warm back! - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I'm just getting a bit concerned about the battery temp, just with general use of the phone my battery is running at 45 degrees and the back of phone where NFC sticker was is very warm....anyone else experiencing this and is worried?
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45C is well within the operating temperature range for Lithium-Ion batteries. Some devices such as the One X+ can have the batteries get as hot as 65C, and there are software safeguards that will prevent the battery from getting hot to the point where it is unsafe.

TRF-Inferno said:
45C is well within the operating temperature range for Lithium-Ion batteries. Some devices such as the One X+ can have the batteries get as hot as 65C, and there are software safeguards that will prevent the battery from getting hot to the point where it is unsafe.
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Thanks for that, I can stop worrying now, tbh the back gets as warm as my HOX did but feels warmer as its glass!
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Can somebody check if the phone has the same problem as the nexus 4 with the throttling
Example : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koLJ4BU9tgc

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Phone heats up easily?!

Hi, my HTC Incredible S heats up easily when i am just surfing the web or playing games. Sometimes my phone heats up till 40 degree celcius that i can't touch the phone So could it be a battery problem?
40 degrees and u cnt touch the phone? u must be made of butter lol
i had my phone up to 43 degrees before
so it is normal for phone to be so hot?
lerx said:
so it is normal for phone to be so hot?
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it's not normal for it to be hot all the time, if it heats up when browsing or playing games then it's normal
I too see this overheating thing while using Maps on Miui and HTC Locations on Sense. The phone reaches u pto 41 degrees Celsius. By the way, can anyone tell me what is the safe range for an IncS for a high temperature.
Also, I have heard that the touch screen might become faulty due to high phone temperatures. The reason given for this is that the digitizer is glued in HTC phones and at high temperatures the glue softens leading the digitizer displacement and static discharge. Can anyone confirm this theory?
That theory may be true but for phones made of higher quality components like HTC and Nokia ... It's not.... I experience heating while using sygic.... But not any other time... Also heating is aggravated by surrounding room temp... If its already hot then phones heat up easily...don't worry just try to keep your phone cool or give it in the service center for inspection...
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Are you overclocking too high?
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Maybe a little off topic but my HTC Desire ran very HOT! when browsing the web and stuff.... I was very surprised when I got my Incredible S ... it gets a little warm but nothing that can compare to the Desire... I had my Desire for abour 1 and a half year, sold it about a month ago when I bought my Incredible S and it was still just as new, never had any problems with it so I don't think you need to worry about the heat...
i think u over clock CPU to high.try another kernel or change your Rom...
be careful may it damage your battery or phone hardware..
if heats again turn off phone and remove battery for 5 min..
Nope i did not overclock my CPU at all

Does weather affect battery life?

I was vacationing in Hawaii last week. My Vivid's battery life went to hell while I was there. I would turn it on at 9 in the morning and was down to 50% by 1 PM, then the phone would die before dinner time. However, once I got back to California, it went right back to ending the day with 40% battery left like before. There was no LTE coverage in Hawaii or where I live. The only different that I see is the Hawaiian heat. BTW, while I was in Hawaii, my phone will heat up for no reason even while it was in my pants pocket.
People normally do say that the temperature of the battery does affect it.
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Heat effects battery life...the hotter it gets the faster your battery drain
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mg2195 said:
Heat effects battery life...the hotter it gets the faster your battery drain
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What he said I live in El Paso and I work at a Sonic Drive In, it gets really hot in here and it can take a huge toll on my battery even though I don't use it at work
Yes indeed. When I used to steam pandora over lte and my phone would overheat and shut down, when I turned it back on it drained like 5% every minute till it cooled down
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I always wondered if the electricity was different in some regions. Different charge in a different country. Maybe Hawaii has bad juice!
Stoner moment...

[Q] HTC One heat issue ?

is anyone that already owned HTC ONE have experiencing any heat issue ?
My concern before I replace my current phone (HTC ONE X+) to HTC One is the heat issue, since my phone that running on NVIDIA Tegra3 is extremely easy to get hot. I'm not sure whether my phone have hardware issue that makes it easy to get hot, or its because the processor itself that easy to get hot when running application especially the one that need 3D graphic.
There is a game on google play store named "Beach Buggy Blitz", and I saw on the welcome screen got writed "Powered By NVIDIA Tegra". I played that game for only approximately 10 minutes and my phone already heated up so much and I cant live with it . so I wonder about HTC One will have the same issue or not ?
i think snapdragon is 28 nm compare to tegra should be cooler
I have same problem with my one x+...
Can't play any game more than 15 min.... It will get hot and start malfunction ....
Also drain battery fast after they got hot...
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Like the above post HTC One's processor is 28nm(28 nanometers) so it's very2x small compared to tegra so it should produce less heat.
samecin said:
I have same problem with my one x+...
Can't play any game more than 15 min.... It will get hot and start malfunction ....
Also drain battery fast after they got hot...
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I thought its only happens on my phone, but then I guess its the NVIDIA Tegra3 issue rather than factory defects.:silly:
my ONE heats so much, and the metal frame behind makes its more hotter after player few minutes of games and browsing :cyclops:
It can get quite hot at times, up to 40°c but it's nothing major
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Obviously, the aluminium is used as a heatsink. It'll get warm. The heat will dissipate. Not many dead.
Does the battery drop faster when hot. I swear mine does but need more time to be totally certain.
The only time I have a heat issue with mine is if it's on charge and I've been using it for ages at the same time. I'm lucky though because I invent faced any other heating situations in the slightest and especially not when I'm playing games (which I do quite a lot).
When playing games and charging it does heat up plus its aluminium so there will be heat felt. Otherwise it stays cool.
gavinfabl said:
Does the battery drop faster when hot. I swear mine does but need more time to be totally certain.
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No. But a likely reason for the heat is use of battery... i.e., when the device uses energy, it is converting stored charge in the battery into heat and light.
gavinfabl said:
Does the battery drop faster when hot. I swear mine does but need more time to be totally certain.
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Yes it happened to me today. I have been using the phone for the past 3 days, it got quite hot when using the camera, playing temple run and when it's hot, the battery dropped like crazy (from 30% to 11% in no time). Did I get a defective piece?

PSA: Dont ruin your batterys!

Lithium Ion Batterys DO NOT like to be charged at HIGH Temperatures
​After doing a heavy intensive CPU App, or playing a game and the back of the phone is getting really hot, let your phone cool off before charging
I played Plants VS zombies for an hour and the battery temps gradually rose to around 68C which is 154.4F
Let it cool before charging, use a battery temp app such as "Battery" to monitor temps
I learned the hard way on my HTC One X after letting it overheat and then charging it while it was overheating it reduced the capacity of the battery ALOT and got the Red light while flashing when charging witch means the battery has overheated
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Your Phone does not have any active cooling system for the CPU, it has Passive cooling witch uses the environment's temperature to bring down the temperature of the internal cpu
Your PC has Active Cooling (Heatsink + Fan)
The nexus 5 has passive cooling (Heatsink only)
same goes with just casual wireless charging. be careful
A battery dwelling above 30°C (86°F) is considered elevated temperature
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http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
I can't care less. It has 1 year warranty.
Odd, Is it really monitoring the battery temps? it seems to be linked to the CPU temp and the warm part is located on where the CPU is at and not the battery.
EarlZ said:
Odd, Is it really monitoring the battery temps? it seems to be linked to the CPU temp and the warm part is located on where the CPU is at and not the battery.
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it's to my understanding there are 2 sensors in the N5, one for battery and one for cpu
Irrelevant as the phone has built in protections. If it is too hot it stops charging. FUD spreading.
GldRush98 said:
Irrelevant as the phone has built in protections. If it is too hot it stops charging. FUD spreading.
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Explain my dead HTC One X battery? Exactly not everything works as it should be.
http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/slyp087/slyp087.pdf
if the temp gets high enough the chip cannot react fast enough
or if the charge falls too low lets say 2 volts it cannot charge again because it isn't a safe charging voltage
I think he was actually saying that the charging circuit wouldn't allow the battery to charge at high temperatures. I cannot verify that but since the charging circuit prevents over draw and over charge by cutting "power" it makes sense
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It will cut off after reaching extremes. You don't want it reaching those extremes ever though or it WILL take it's toll on the battery.
Battery's don't like heat. They don't like extreme cold either.
Don't think the battery will ever get to 110F as the phone will shut down/not charge at that temperature until it goes down. Therefore, you probably couldn't spoil the battery if you tried with this fail safe implemented.
With someone's personal testimony about a fried phone, I can offer my testimony that I used a wireless charger on my Nexus 4 + played games until hot + charged whenever I wanted to and the phone, which my GF uses now, isn't any worse for wear.
Especially because the Nexus 5 has a Li-Po (lithium-polymer) and not a lithium-Ion battery
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Hi
These batteries don't like heat full stop, they are like perishable foods and degrade quicker the warmer they are, regardless of being charged or not. This is why laptop batteries do not do well when the laptop is used mostly on the mains, nothing to do with constant top up charging, it is because the battery is constantly held in the warmth of the running laptop all day and age much quicker.
Lithium batteries do not work well in extreme cold, but this isn't permanent and they return to normal when back to room temperature, and lithium batteries are held refrigerated for storage, just like a perishable food.
Regardless of being used or not, the battery will lose a considerable amount of its capacity just by ageing over a year or two. Given the various safety controls built in, it is fairly difficult to cause much more damage than time alone will cause, so you might as well just use and abuse the battery anyway, especially as most people will be replacing the phone after a couple of years.
Regards
Phil
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Don't think the battery will ever get to 110F as the phone will shut down/not charge at that temperature until it goes down. Therefore, you probably couldn't spoil the battery if you tried with this fail safe implemented.
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i dont think you know what the fail safe temperature is
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/cVuWVDW-hyY
there's a thread with someone's n5 getting to 45C(113F) while playing games and without shutting down, and he lives in Canada. imagine what temp it would be at in any reasonably warm climate
110F is not safe if you want to preserve the longevity of your battery. period.
GldRush98 said:
Irrelevant as the phone has built in protections. If it is too hot it stops charging. FUD spreading.
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Not irrelevant... Mine overheated while attached to my laptop and the led screen blew up. It developed a black bubble at the bottom near the home button.
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george241312 said:
@op what phone in this world currently has an internal fan on it ?
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No phones currently have no active cooling on them
Also heres what happened to my HTC One X
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...e-x-battery-draining-rapidly-overheating.html
It drained rapidly and the backside was always hot when it wasn't even in use just sitting on my desk caused it to got hot
and i would charge it to 100% and took it off the charger ~10 mins it dropped to 70% just sitting there idle and the back is super hot
my point is the charging circuit only controls for overcharge with is extremely dangerous
george241312 said:
@op what phone in this world currently has an internal fan on it ?
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Just another example of Google cutting costs to put out this cheapo piece of %$))$!
But actually I did manage to really cook my phone! I set it (plugged in!) in a south-facing window to shoot time-lapse and oh-so-cleverly the sun bright winter sun was streaming through the thermal glass, and on to the silky black phone and...physics happened! About 15 minutes in my insta-greenhouse and I heard a strange whimpering 'ding!' from the phone -- when next I looked it had shut itself down. On reboot Dashclock was reporting "Overheat" "Not charging", and temp of 60+ degrees (can't remember the exact number but it might have been as high as 68!) Panic & a few minutes in the freezer brought it back to normal.
Take from that what you will:
1. It really dislikes being treated like a tomato seedling.
2. Idiot user didn't understand the 'greenhouse effect"
3. The phone does stop charging and goes into shutdown when things get too hot.
Before you judge too harshly, I want to point out the most obvious factor; a truly earth-shatteringly great phone would have come packed with the necessary technology to protect the phone in such cases -- maybe that would be a fan, or maybe it would be better served with a liquid cooling system, but whatever it should have, clearly Google cut corners yet again!
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Before you judge too harshly, I want to point out the most obvious factor; a truly earth-shatteringly great phone would have come packed with the necessary technology to protect the phone in such cases -- maybe that would be a fan, or maybe it would be better served with a liquid cooling system, but whatever it should have, clearly Google cut corners yet again!
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And the size and weight of the phone would grow enormously. Are you kidding? And what phone offered anywhere by anyone does what you suggest?
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...a truly earth-shatteringly great phone would have come packed with the necessary technology to protect the phone in such cases -- maybe that would be a fan, or maybe it would be better served with a liquid cooling system, but whatever it should have, clearly Google cut corners yet again!
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I'm not the smallest guy on the planet, but can you imagine the size of a the pair of cargo shorts/pants that would be needed to carry a liquid cooled smartphone? Massive!! lol
Fwiw, my N5 routinely gets to 107-111f when doing some intensive things with other background intensive things running as well (i.e. banning trolls on my phone both through Tapatalk and Dolphin while listening to a streaming content on mobile wireless and sitting in the sun soaking up some Vitamin D).
Oh ya!!
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Woody said:
I'm not the smallest guy on the planet, but can you imagine the size of a the pair of cargo shorts/pants that would be needed to carry a liquid cooled smartphone? Massive!! lol
Fwiw, my N5 routinely gets to 107-111f when doing some intensive things with other background intensive things running as well (i.e. banning trolls on my phone both through Tapatalk and Dolphin while listening to a streaming content on mobile wireless and sitting in the sun soaking up some Vitamin D).
Oh ya!!
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It ain't about the pants, it's about Google being too damn cheap to deliver truer-than-true state-of-the-state-of-the-art! Come to think of it, if Google had the balls to fill those pants we'd have the phone we really deserve!
68 Celsius is about 154 Fahrenheit. But as I said, because it was actually being cooked at the time.

OP3T freezing issues (freezing - low sub zero temps :) )

Hi I encountered recently 2 weird issues with my OP. It is around -10 C degree outside and I was out for a walk, took the phone, it was charged to 65% and wanted to take a photo but after pressing shutter the phone shut down and I couldn't turn it on, first it was trying to boot but shut down again and then only information about very low battery and to charge it first.
This situation happend already 2 times.
Is it normal? I cannot operate the phone in -10C? My HTC and Nexus were all fine even in lower temps, i was just getting inforamtion that I cannot use flash for camera as the temperature was too low but otherwise it was working fine.
Where are you keeping the phone when not using it? Try a pocket close to your body, to keep it warm. Li ion batteries (and most battery types) discharge much more quickly when very cold.
I had my phone on me while skiing. Probably close to the temps you are talking about. I kept my 3t in a chest pocket, under my jacket, and took it out occasionally to take photos. It worked fine, and the battery kept charge all day, no problem.
I keep it in my jeans pocket and sometimes at down jacket pocket so should be fine. Either way I never had a problem with low temperatures. It shut down also when I was skiing the other time. I understnad when it discharges, the status should just show lower battery, not just shut down from 65% and why it was after I press the shutter? I am on stock so there is no firmware crash probably due to modding.
No problem with mine at - 40c here
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Dugaldrob said:
No problem with mine at - 40c here
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-40c is seriously low for current battery technology to function normally.
Also, where do you live?
Tagtag123 said:
-40c is seriously low for current battery technology to function normally.
Also, where do you live?
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I live in Manitoba Canada [emoji260] and that doesn't include windchill seriously tho I've never had a problem with low temperature affecting my battery, even my car starts at that temperature
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Happened again, OnePlus support is suggesting to flash OOS again with remote session with their 2 level specialist Is this a bad joke?

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