Hi guys, My Z is coming tomorrow and I'm on the AT&T network in the USA. Now I know the device will work on the HSPA under the 850 band just fine (which is in my area) I am un-sure about AT&T's LTE working. I want to say that it will NOT work on AT&T's LTE. Aside from that, anyone here using the Z in the states on AT&T..? And if so, any problems at all..?
Thanks!
Raspster said:
Hi guys, My Z is coming tomorrow and I'm on the AT&T network in the USA. Now I know the device will work on the HSPA under the 850 band just fine (which is in my area) I am un-sure about AT&T's LTE working. I want to say that it will NOT work on AT&T's LTE. Aside from that, anyone here using the Z in the states on AT&T..? And if so, any problems at all..?
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Are you sure you area is 850? Most different states my note 2 hardly ever works on HSPA+ via 850 most of the time its 1900 for me anyway. But thats the only reason Why Im stopped from buying it I dont want it and just have EDGE haha. Where did you order? Handtec has it for 650 after shipping and such.
Also No go for AT&T LTE. Only for the ZL>
Ya mine would of came friday had it not been for customs, so monday it is and hopefully there wont be any problems.
I live in NJ and most of the north east has 850. Matter of fact, I had heard that AT&T was replacing all the 1900 HSPA towers with 850 as its a better frequency. That conversion was sappse to be finished at the end of this year.
Where did you get it? I've dealt with Handtec before for Samsung phones.
How can you tell what band your phone is on by the way? (I live in MD with no LTE support anyway)
I'd like to place an order tonight.
I'm in Chicago and I didn't pull the trigger on the c6603 because the rep I talked to at AT&T highly advised only buying a phone that had 850 and 1900 bands. So now I'm waiting for this supposed c6602 to come out that will support HSPA+, or the mythical c6606 that supports LTE.
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I'm I'm Chicago and I didn't pull the trigger on the c6603 because the rep I talked to at AT&T highly advised only buying a phone that had 850 and 1900 bands. So now I'm waiting for this supposed c6602 to come out that will support HSPA+, or the mythical c6606 that supports LTE.
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+1 or the ZL C6506 about to release and less expensive...
Just placed my order with Handtec. Was $646.36 shipped.
I live in California and 850 is everywhere on att. I think you should be fine in most places on att as they didn't even really start building out PCS until 10years or so ago. It's hard to find frequency maps but for the most part it's everywhere, 850 has better building penetration and 1900 is used for capacity/high density areas... there are of course are always exceptions. I should be receiving my 6603 sometime before Wednesday so I'll report my findings.
I ordered from clove which was a bit more expensive than handtec shipped ($680) but they include the wireless blutehooth speaker w/nfc pairing which is about $100 by itself. Can't wait to get my hands on this beauty.
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What phones are you guys coming from?
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I'm coming from the nexus 4.
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chicago with c6603, HSPA+ on most places with signals; only a couple buildings in downtown i only get 2G or no signal at all
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I live in California and 850 is everywhere on att. I think you should be fine in most places on att as they didn't even really start building out PCS until 10years or so ago. It's hard to find frequency maps but for the most part it's everywhere, 850 has better building penetration and 1900 is used for capacity/high density areas... there are of course are always exceptions. I should be receiving my 6603 sometime before Wednesday so I'll report my findings.
I ordered from clove which was a bit more expensive than handtec shipped ($680) but they include the wireless blutehooth speaker w/nfc pairing which is about $100 by itself. Can't wait to get my hands on this beauty.
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me too, not a bad deal at all including that speaker. I am in LA and with ATT as well
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chicago with c6603, HSPA+ on most places with signals; only a couple buildings in downtown i only get 2G or no signal at all
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The H+ comes in on the Z in Chicago for you? That makes me think I might be alright to get one. I'm kinda tired of waiting around for the other models.
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Motorola Razr since new years , but I had the international SGSII until it died new years. So I can't wait for Monday to come already and I also live in LA and sometimes go back home in SF so I dont expect too much issue with just using the 850 mhz band, hopefully.
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I live in California and 850 is everywhere on att. I think you should be fine in most places on att as they didn't even really start building out PCS until 10years or so ago. It's hard to find frequency maps but for the most part it's everywhere, 850 has better building penetration and 1900 is used for capacity/high density areas... there are of course are always exceptions. I should be receiving my 6603 sometime before Wednesday so I'll report my findings.
I ordered from clove which was a bit more expensive than handtec shipped ($680) but they include the wireless blutehooth speaker w/nfc pairing which is about $100 by itself. Can't wait to get my hands on this beauty.
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Well I live in an area with a populattion of about 4,000 just got 3G from Edge last year... and only 1900mhz here
I ordered from clove which was a bit more expensive than handtec shipped ($680) but they include the wireless blutehooth speaker w/nfc pairing which is about $100 by itself. Can't wait to get my hands on this beauty.
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If you have to pay any other fees such as custom fee or etc ? anh how long does it take to get the package ? Thanks
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Well I live in an area with a populattion of about 4,000 just got 3G from Edge last year... and only 1900mhz here
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What state do you live in? Att has quite a few markets where they either acquired PCS or just chose to build out 1900 and that is the preferred frequency. Like I said there are exceptions, it would make sense for you to wait for the 6602.
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If you have to pay any other fees such as custom fee or etc ? anh how long does it take to get the package ? Thanks
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No, customs or vat charges don't apply when ordering to the US. I'm not sure about handtec but clove - I ordered on Thursday and they shipped on Friday, it arrived in the states on Saturday so now I'm just waiting for snail mail to actually deliver. Just a heads up with handtec and or clove, they may make you jump through some hoops to verify your identity if you've never ordered from them before.
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No, customs or vat charges don't apply when ordering to the US. I'm not sure about handtec but clove - I ordered on Thursday and they shipped on Friday, it arrived in the states on Saturday so now I'm just waiting for snail mail to actually deliver. Just a heads up with handtec and or clove, they may make you jump through some hoops to verify your identity if you've never ordered from them before.
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With Handtec there are no other charges. (price + shipping is it)
If you checkout with Google Wallet, you shouldn't have any issues. (I've purchased bunches from Handtec via google wallet, never had an issue)
Tried using my visa bank card once, had major problems with fraud prevention flagging it, so I've only used a credit card since.
I did a LONG time ago have a problem with my International SGS2 from Handtec, it got pulled in customs by FedEx. I had to call customer support, fill out a form, and email it to a FedEx agent. Little bit of hassle, and added an extra day to shipping. Its never happened since.
Mine just shipped, I wouldn't be surprised to have it by Wed. They are amazingly fast getting things to the east coast. (usually Handtec is faster for me than Negri... and cheaper)
Negri JUST sent me an email ad for the Xperia Z. $748. I paid $643 with Handtec.
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What state do you live in? Att has quite a few markets where they either acquired PCS or just chose to build out 1900 and that is the preferred frequency. Like I said there are exceptions, it would make sense for you to wait for the 6602.
No, customs or vat charges don't apply when ordering to the US. I'm not sure about handtec but clove - I ordered on Thursday and they shipped on Friday, it arrived in the states on Saturday so now I'm just waiting for snail mail to actually deliver. Just a heads up with handtec and or clove, they may make you jump through some hoops to verify your identity if you've never ordered from them before.
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Where did you hear that 1900 was preferred? AT&T has stated time and time again that they plan of phasing out 1900 in favor of 850 as its a way better band all together. They say by year end of 2013 they plan to convert to all 850... Gotta find the link that talks about that a repost.
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So with HTC's disappointing line-up for the first half of 2011 I decided to take a visit to HTCs World site. I looked at the specs of the new phones and noticed that under Network the bands listed are Europe/Asia - HSPA: 900/AWS/2100 MHz. Does this mean that I could finally buy an unlocked HTC phone and have my US T-mobile 3G aswell? The Flyer has the same Network specs. Out of the 5 new phones that HTC announced the Flyer and Incredible S only have those specs. The Chacha, salsa, and wildfire S, each have the standard 900/2100mhz band for HSPA Europe/Asia.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/incredibles/specification.html
http://www.htc.com/www/product/flyer/specification.html
Can someone confirm my suspicions? If so I can't wait to see what the fall lineup has in-store. Perhaps a dual core phone. I hate the line up US carriers offer.
I belive that you need 1700/2100 Mhz for T-Mobile 3G
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I belive that you need 1700/2100 Mhz for T-Mobile 3G
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Yes 1700 but is that not AWS. If I'm not mistaken AWS is the 1700/2100 spectrum. So since AWS is stated in the specs for the tablet and phone it should work in the US on T-mobiles 3G correct? I've been waiting for htc to release phones in Europe with US 3G for T-mobile forever. I wish my TD2 had had US 3G. The power switch broke sadly and I bought a used Nexus one and T-mobile made me pay the higher rate for data. With an unlocked phone I can sneak by on the lower unlimited rate.
This is a good news for T-Mobile and Wind users as it supports AWS 3G.
Supposedly it is going to be sold by best buy in the US.. So unless that rumor was false it makes sense to have some flavor US 3G network support and TMo makes more sense (ha no pun intended) than ATT. So AWS on the specs must be true.
Unless all these little clues are an inaccurate vast coincidence.
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Supposedly it is going to be sold by best buy in the US.. So unless that rumor was false it makes sense to have some flavor US 3G network support and TMo makes more sense (ha no pun intended) than ATT. So AWS on the specs must be true.
Unless all these little clues are an inaccurate vast coincidence.
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Car Warehouse and Best Buy UK will be selling it. I haven't seen or heard anything about Best Buy US selling it in the States.
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Car Warehouse and Best Buy UK will be selling it. I haven't seen or heard anything about Best Buy US selling it in the States.
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I guess this was wrong then. Not to mention that the incredible s listing at carphone warehouse says "only at carphone warehouse" which would suggest that it is not anywhere else in the uk although they own a stake in carphone warehouse.
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-incredible-s-will-be-exclusive-best-buy-and-carphone-warehouse
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No, I'm sure that I am the one who's wrong. This is what happens when you don't pay attention to details.
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No, I'm sure that I am the one who's wrong. This is what happens when you don't pay attention to details.
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The whole thing is slightly confusing. I won't believe it until I see it listed at best buy.
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I don't care who sells the phone as long as it really does work with T-mobiles AWS bands in the US. If it's true I can't wait to see the Fall lineup of phones. If anything with a dual core comes out and looks nice I will be ordering it from clove.co.uk or somewhere else it they can beat cloves price.
The ROM is set up for Verizon, plus the original Incredible was with big red so I doubt they would switch carriers with the Incredible name.
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The ROM is set up for Verizon, plus the original Incredible was with big red so I doubt they would switch carriers with the Incredible name.
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You couldn't be any mote wrong. The original is not a US phone and is GSM based. So it makes sense t-mobile could get it. T-mobile UK has it and so do other GSM carriers in the world. Go to HTC.com/www and check it out for ur self. The tech is GSM. You need to learn a bit more about world carriers and phones and ditch big red. GSM is what the world uses. Don't be surprised when Big Red starts to use sim cards.
Wind Mobile in Canada opearates on AWS/1700 Mhz/BandIV
Is this Incredible S gonna launch on T-Mobile USA?
UK retailers and mobile providers are already accepting preorders.
I'm not sure if T-Mobile USA will get this because it is already being launched elsewhere. Are they gonna launch this phone late?
Verizon already had it in the US (not S). And I don't see any leaked T-Mobile roadmaps hinting an HTC Incredible S launch.
What do you guys think?
Wish it'll be released by BestBuy in states and canada like NS.
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Is this Incredible S gonna launch on T-Mobile USA?
UK retailers and mobile providers are already accepting preorders.
I'm not sure if T-Mobile USA will get this because it is already being launched elsewhere. Are they gonna launch this phone late?
Verizon already had it in the US (not S). And I don't see any leaked T-Mobile roadmaps hinting an HTC Incredible S launch.
What do you guys think?
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If it does it will be like any other phone that hits Europe and Asia first. US carriers will get it 6-12 months later. So if it does come here it will be later on. The thing I'm concerned about is having it work with Tmo US 3G if I buy it unlocked from Europe since it has the AWS bands. I Love buying unlocked phones because some of them we never see here in the states.
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If it does it will be like any other phone that hits Europe and Asia first. US carriers will get it 6-12 months later. So if it does come here it will be later on. The thing I'm concerned about is having it work with Tmo US 3G if I buy it unlocked from Europe since it has the AWS bands. I Love buying unlocked phones because some of them we never see here in the states.
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I'm sure it wont be long before we see some reviews coming in to verify its AWSness.
One thing is for sure.. I'm not going to pay 499 euros (690 USD!!) for it.. plus shipping.. I'll be waiting for it to pop up stateside for around 500 USD I would hope...
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I'm sure it wont be long before we see some reviews coming in to verify its AWSness.
One thing is for sure.. I'm not going to pay 499 euros (690 USD!!) for it.. plus shipping.. I'll be waiting for it to pop up stateside for around 500 USD I would hope...
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When it gets here the price unlocked will drop to about that. That's how long it will take for it to get here. It will be that old. Most I am willing to pa for an unlocked phone they don't sell in the states is $550. Sadly I would rather use that money for a radiator to help keep my car cool with all it's new found power.
I'm sure there will be at least two different models, a European model without AWS and a T-mobile US version with AWS. Just like the HD2. The T-mobile US one will be carrier locked too. You know I'm right.
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I'm sure there will be at least two different models, a European model without AWS and a T-mobile US version with AWS. Just like the HD2. The T-mobile US one will be carrier locked too. You know I'm right.
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The only version that has been announced is the European/Asian one and it has AWS so this one could also be sold by T-Mobile USA.
However the question would be why bother when they already have the recently released 3.8" myTouch 4G with 4GB of storage, the same CPU and GPU, etc, etc. While the Incredible S seems to be better all round, with the exception of available storage, there hardly seems to be any point in adding such a similar phone to the T-Mobile USA line-up, especially when the myTouch 3G was made specially for them.
They will probably wait until October later this year to introduce a new variant of this phone and some dual core HTC phones.
I found the incredible s on sale for a very unrealistic low price of $326 with free shipping at an online store called chinasprint. I can't post a link because of my new poster status
Anyone can confirm this is real or a scam?
Whats the lowest price you guys have seen from a reputable source, including shipping?
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I found the incredible s on sale for a very unrealistic low price of $326 with free shipping at an online store called chinasprint. I can't post a link because of my new poster status
Anyone can confirm this is real or a scam?
Whats the lowest price you guys have seen from a reputable source, including shipping?
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Got mine for £370 on eBay from Hong Kong, including shipping. Did see it cheaper elsewhere but chose a shop with a decent reputation. Would always rather pay a bit more than risk getting burned. Although if you buy with a credit card you should be protected from scams anyway.
if you did a simple google search, you will know its a scam website.
I got mine from popularelect.com, it was $549 USD with free shipping.
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I got mine from popularelect.com, it was $549 USD with free shipping.
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does your version of the Inc S support the 850/1900 (At&T) 3G in the US? the only one i've seen that does is the Canadian (BELL) version.
EDIT: Just read your post in another forum; your version supports T-Mobile 3G? Correct? Thanks!
No, it is a UK model phone and only supports 900/AWS/2100 for 3G. I am using it on T-Mobile and must say, I like it alot.
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No, it is a UK model phone and only supports 900/AWS/2100 for 3G. I am using it on T-Mobile and must say, I like it alot.
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appreciate your quick reply to my question. to clarify, your phone is able to use T-Mobile USA's hspa network? i'm considering the Inc S and contemplating a switch to T-Mobile if the pricing and hspa coverage is suitable for my needs.
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appreciate your quick reply to my question. to clarify, your phone is able to use T-Mobile USA's hspa network? i'm considering the Inc S and contemplating a switch to T-Mobile if the pricing and hspa coverage is suitable for my needs.
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It uses HSPA yes, not HSPA+ that I'm aware of, My wife's G2 is HSPA+ and I consistently throughout the day have slightly faster speeds than her G2 according to speed test. Bear in mind, im also using it with the $5.00 unlimited web2go, being an import T-mo doesn't know the IMEI and can't distinguish it from a dumbphone.
Anyone else find this phone $450-500?
I am looking for a replacement for my aging Nexus One.
I am hoping prices will decrease on Ebay since Verizon is releasing a similar dual CDMA/GSM model; Incredible II
Can someone post some trustworthy website where you buy yours? I am wanna keep my tzone so i am returning the G2x and get this phone.
also, do all versions of this phone works on t-mobile usa's HSPA network? how many versions of this phone are there?
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Can someone post some trustworthy website where you buy yours? I am wanna keep my tzone so i am returning the G2x and get this phone.
also, do all versions of this phone works on t-mobile usa's HSPA network? how many versions of this phone are there?
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I got mine from ebay. I bought it from 38mobile on ebay. Just check their feedback. I think that's best. 38mobile was quick. Ordered on monday, got it on thursday.
you have to get the model S710E for it to work on Tmobile 3G.
i am also waiting to buy this phone, and thinking if the release of the Incredible 2 gsm+cdma will alter the pricing of this phone.
One question i have is, would it be better to buy the unlocked unbranded S710e over an unlocked droid incredible 2 (pretty sure both have 3G 2100 bands i need).
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i am also waiting to buy this phone, and thinking if the release of the Incredible 2 gsm+cdma will alter the pricing of this phone.
One question i have is, would it be better to buy the unlocked unbranded S710e over an unlocked droid incredible 2 (pretty sure both have 3G 2100 bands i need).
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The Verizon model will likely be more crippled than an unlocked model.
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The Verizon model will likely be more crippled than an unlocked model.
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Will the Verizon model have a sim slot and T-Mobile 's AWS band?
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Will the Verizon model have a sim slot and T-Mobile 's AWS band?
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Yea itll have the slot but it will have 3G support in other countries other than ours
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I got mine from popularelect.com, it was $549 USD with free shipping.
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can anyone who got their phone from popularelect tell me if it was S-on or S-off? I'd like to buy this phone, but I am waiting for a software solution to S-off since I want to develop apps and need root access.
I also decided to buy the phone, but after finding that the price of the sensation is going to be $500, it doesnt make sense to me to pay more than $500 on the incredible. At that price, i would rather just get the sensation.. i dont see the point here
All prices on ebay from a trustworthy sellers are atleast $530. Also on Handtec.UK the price is above $550 and Clove is the same. As i live in the middle east, i need a place that ships worldwide and accepts paypal
Should i just wait for the sensation to come out and maybe the price will drop?
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I also decided to buy the phone, but after finding that the price of the sensation is going to be $500, it doesnt make sense to me to pay more than $500 on the incredible. At that price, i would rather just get the sensation.. i dont see the point here
All prices on ebay from a trustworthy sellers are atleast $530. Also on Handtec.UK the price is above $550 and Clove is the same. As i live in the middle east, i need a place that ships worldwide and accepts paypal
Should i just wait for the sensation to come out and maybe the price will drop?
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Who said the price of the sensation is $500, are you kidding me, it's 599 pounds in the UK, that's about nearly a grand in dollars, I aint saying its gonna be a grand here, but its not gonna be selling for $500. I highly doubt you gonna see the sensation for $500 here in the US, show me the proof!
I have no proof, but thats what ppl say on the sensation forum, that non subsidized price is going to be $499 and subsidized is going to be $199
Portuguese Fnac (www.fnac.pt) will have in the next 2 days for 550,00 EUR but the funny thing is that you could get a Desire HD for 500,00 EUR...what would you do ?
If there is somewhere cheaper and faster, that would be appreciated also.
I was wondering if anyone who ordered their Note from handtec can tell me exactly how long it took for the device to arrive. I want to try and get this for a christmas present, but would hope for it to arrive in time. I live in Northern Utah, if that would help you with figuring out how long it should be. Thanks!
$699 on Newegg
Or if you're OK with buying from overseas on eBay, I just snagged one with free overnight shipping for $669 USD, but YMMV due to whoever has stock ATM.
Thanks for the info. I may just go the eBay route, ill have to do some searching around. Maybe it would be worth waiting a little longer to see if a non-European version can be enabled to support Tmobiles bands. Either way, I must have this phone!
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Thanks for the info. I may just go the eBay route, ill have to do some searching around. Maybe it would be worth waiting a little longer to see if a non-European version can be enabled to support Tmobiles bands. Either way, I must have this phone!
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Roger that but everything I've read thus far indicates both the HSPA+ and the LTE versions are missing the T-Mobile 1700 MHz radio. Latest version going through FCC is still the HSPA+ version modified with capacitive buttons, so you may be in for a loooong wait fr T-Mo. Good luck!
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Roger that but everything I've read thus far indicates both the HSPA+ and the LTE versions are missing the T-Mobile 1700 MHz radio. Latest version going through FCC is still the HSPA+ version modified with capacitive buttons, so you may be in for a loooong wait fr T-Mo. Good luck!
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In that case, I am prepared to switch over to At&T, although I don't want to...
I ordered mine on Nov 29th. It got shipped on Nov 30th. It would have been delivered on Dec 1st, had it not get delayed by Customs. I ordered several accessories along with the phone, so Customs wanted an itemized breakdown. Once they got that, they wanted an FCC form. Plus the weekend. In the end I got it on Dec 6th.
Handtec could have done better and included those required papers but other than that, Handtec's Customer service was very good. They are very responsive. They even credited my credit card for 20 pounds, because the price of the Note dropped after I ordered it but before I received it.
I would not hesitate to buy from them again but maybe just mention it to them they need to include the required papers to avoid Customs delay.
Does anyone know yet which of these models(Z/ZL) are coming to the US? And maybe a release date?
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Both will probably be coming to the US, but only unlocked through Sony's own retail channels. If I'm right both sets will work with HSPA+ on AT&T and T-Mobile (so no LTE).
Spectre should have more info on this though.
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Both will probably be coming to the US, but only unlocked through Sony's own retail channels. If I'm right both sets will work with HSPA+ on AT&T and T-Mobile (so no LTE).
Spectre should have more info on this though.
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No LTE on AT&T is a bit a waste, isn't it?
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Both will probably be coming to the US, but only unlocked through Sony's own retail channels. If I'm right both sets will work with HSPA+ on AT&T and T-Mobile (so no LTE).
Spectre should have more info on this though.
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No LTE on AT&T is a bit a waste, isn't it?
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The ZL will have LTE but not the Z which will only be HSPA+ (still very fast, I get upto 6.5 Mbps on my Xperia T on at&t on their HSPA+ network).
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Not really, considering AT&T's transfer caps.
Even if I had LTE available in my area, I'd take an unlocked HSPA+ device over a carrier-mangled locked-down LTE device without any hesitation.
LTE isn't all it is cracked up to be, once you take into account monthly transfer limitations (Since AT&T now throttles "unlimited" users, there is no such thing as "unlimited" any more.), especially if you have access to HSPA+.
LTE was more critical for Verizon users, since CDMA2000 hit a wall without an upgrade path far earlier than UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ did.
I'm really hoping the rumors that the Z will be sold directly in a timely fashion are going to be true.
The ZL will be available from AT&T as far as I can tell, but that version will suffer from complete lockdown in addition to traditional AT&T firmware mutilation.
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I'm really hoping the rumors that the Z will be sold directly in a timely fashion are going to be true.
The ZL will be available from AT&T as far as I can tell, but that version will suffer from complete lockdown in addition to traditional AT&T firmware mutilation.
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Its still up in the air about the Z availability in the US. Hoping its sold directly too.
AT&T isn't picking up the Z or ZL. but both should work on its network.
So till now, AT&T was the only carrier that sold the sony smartphones, with the only exception I think was the playstation phone on verizon.
So the most logical thing for me is Sony to push again through AT&T, because:
1) They already have done business in the past, and have worked out the business side, so it's a safe bet, they might try to work deals with other carriers later through the year to have bigger exposure to the market.
2) It's a flagship phone, Sony will try to get it in the hands of as many people, the comment that it'll be available only full price in retail channels made me laugh The situation is so heated, that they'll have to loose ton of money, just to try to snatch some market, to have a chance to stay a player in this market. They surely want to be in this market, why would they make the Z and show it at CES when no other big name was revealing top models - so they grab the spotlight at CES, and the phone doesn't get lost in all the announcements coming in Feb from the mobile congress.
3) AT&T would love to have another strong horse in the race so they are not dependent only on Apple or Samsung for the best devices they offer. For AT&T the bigger portfolio of manufacturers that want to move devices on their network gives them edge on pricing and other deal terms.
So yeah, I can bet money that in couple of weeks, there will be announcement/leak that AT&T will carry a Z/ZL phone, with LTE of course.
Spectre51 has said it before, AT&T won't be carrying the ZL or Z. The ZL will be sold unlocked through Sony's own retail channels, the Z may be sold unlocked too.
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Its still up in the air about the Z availability in the US. Hoping its sold directly too.
AT&T isn't picking up the Z or ZL. but both should work on its network.
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What's your source?
Inspiredwire said:
What's your source?
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He is the source. As far as I know he works at AT&T but I'm not sure.
I'm starting to like this phone. I'm currently on T-Mobile so I probably will only see 3G speeds correct? If so maybe StraightTalk could be an option as my contract expires in June of this year.
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So yeah, I can bet money that in couple of weeks, there will be announcement/leak that AT&T will carry a Z/ZL phone, with LTE of course.
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I'll take your money if you want. Its not happening.
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I wonder why AT&T would skip out on such a great device. Especially considering what appears to be a long term relationship with Sony. It doesn't make much sense...
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They were supposed to pick up the ZL but backed out a month or so ago. They will be picking up the Fall device from Sony and it's supposed to be a flagship phone.
I asked one of the AT&T associates and they confirmed they will be getting zl but not sure about the z
darksora145 said:
I asked one of the AT&T associates and they confirmed they will be getting zl but not sure about the z
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Hmm I would consider buying a factory unlocked ZL then and using it on ATT's network - less bloat.
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i really want thi sphone!!
Fingers crossed on att with lte!
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:sigh: I give up.
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Guys I've gotta say that spectre is usually right on about stuff like this. I've seen him in the ion forums and he seems to have insider information.
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I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
amdhunter said:
I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
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did you buy the 6603 or 6602 version? if 6603 then yes if 6602, u will get HSPA+
I just got a C6602 replacing my Nexus 4, HSPA+ speeds are the same on a $30 plan T-Mobile SIM.
amdhunter said:
I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
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Since you are in NYC, head down to Bowery Street and At GSM in order to get the C6602. I bought my device there.
It supports the T-Mobile bands and is the obvious version to get for use in the US. The C6603 should be avoided since it lacks the important bands, not only for T-Mobile but it is also a bit crippled on the AT&T network.
The good thing is that the C6602 can use the same ROMs as C6603. So no need to worry about developer support.
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Since you are in NYC, head down to Bowery Street and At GSM in order to get the C6602. I bought my device there.
It supports the T-Mobile bands and is the obvious version to get for use in the US. The C6603 should be avoided since it lacks the important bands, not only for T-Mobile but it is also a bit crippled on the AT&T network.
The good thing is that the C6602 can use the same ROMs as C6603. So no need to worry about developer support.
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Thanks! I'm pulling the trigger on this guy here.
Any reason I shouldn't? Price? Wrong phone?
amdhunter said:
Thanks! I'm pulling the trigger on this guy here.
Any reason I shouldn't? Price? Wrong phone?
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That is a good option so go for it. The only thing I wonder about is how it can have the US warranty since the C6602 isn't sold here, officially. It is an imported unit and they are usually without US warranties. If Sony offers a better policy than Samsung for example and honor the warranty, it is great news for me too. My previous imported phones has been the Note and Note II and Samsung doesn't cover them under the US warranty so that is why I think it is surprising to see it for that C6602.
its never too late?
it may be too late but negri electronics has it for 581.50 plus a $10 coupon that brings it down to 571.50, no tax free shipping
got it on ebay from HK user...free BT lol not that i will use it but gonna bundle with my old phone and sell it. O and its 591 with free shipping, takes a while though :/