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Hiya,
I'm considering whether to use a JVU or ICS rom. By looking around, I've seen many threads talking about how great ICS has with new features and so on, so this is probably a big plus point. However, I'm just wondering if there are still unresolved issues with ICS, it being based on an unofficial rom?
I know a while ago CM/MIUI were considered development roms, and not stable releases. Does this still hold true? Also, are there any features which ICS roms still have been unable to implement vs stock JVU? (eg tethering, gps, camera and so on).
Thanks!
If you want all features and stable rom then its recommended to use jvu.
Ics is very good but you have to sacrifice some features like video calling and touchwiz features. I haven't experienced any problems yet. Camera GPS tethering etc work fine on ics. I would recommend AOKP or CM9
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I also want to know the same issue before I move to ICS.
What is main benefit of ICS Roms even though many features are not functional like GB Roms ?
If you want a completely functional ROM (all features are working), then you better go for JVU since in ICS some features like video call and other minor things here and there are not working. Also, they're not based on unofficial release, most of them are based on google's releases (AOSP) which are official in a way or another, just not from the phone manufacturer themselves.
Personally i found ICS ROMs better due to the overall user experience, and they're smoother on the long run as compared to other JVU ROMs i've been using.
My advice is that if you don't really mind sacrificing minor features like video call (which most people don't really use anyway), go for ICS ROM! A lot of them got the tethering working alr. Gps, wifi, and other essentials are confirmed working perfectly
asdsadas2010 said:
If you want a completely functional ROM (all features are working), then you better go for JVU since in ICS some features like video call and other minor things here and there are not working. Also, they're not based on unofficial release, most of them are based on google's releases (AOSP) which are official in a way or another, just not from the phone manufacturer themselves.
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My understanding is that because it's not from Samsung, the ICS roms had to rewrite the drivers for hardware components like gps, camera or stuff like that from scratch, which is why there may be stuff not working.
I'm ok with no video call (since i've never used it), but are there any other features missing? Or are the minor things like random FC, or some small things just don't work properly. I find things like that somewhat annoying, so I'd rather stick with JVU if that's the case
Stuffs like random FCs and other not working minor things really depends on the ROMs. So far i found no random FCs apart from the camera which is the past anw (they fixed the stock ICS camera issue alr). If the devs or the bug reports never really mention any FCs, there's a high chance that you'll get a very smooth ROM (maybe there're things that are not working properly but chances are you won't realize it )
Also, most of the people who complained in the threads and bugreports never really followed the installation instructions properly which leads to their 'not supposed to be there bugs' coming to the phones.
By now most of the features of the ICS ROMs are working alr (obviously excluding those alpha and beta releases). The minor issues that you'll most likely get are with apps compatibility tho, a lot of the apps in the market are still not fully supporting ICS, so yeah.
My advice is that just follow the devs instructions thoroughly and you'll get a 95% chance of not encountering any problems with the ROMs . Don't blame me tho if you found troubles alr with your first ICS ROM later (if you decided to try it out )
How's battery life compared to stock roms? I think ICS roms usually don't last as long right? Any idea what a rough % amount less it lasts? (eg 20% shorter batt life or something)
If I have to give a percentage, abt <=10% less than the stock GB ROMs on average, tho mostly it depends on your kernel and usage.
The correct governor, kernel, and settings will be 50% (from my pov) of the deciding factor whether your battery lasts or not. Coz sometimes my battery actually lasts longer than when on stock GB ROMs. Personally I don't really like the stock ROM since they don't really offer me a good battery life considering the performance and free memory they've been giving me.
Personally I just started to try a bunch of different roms. For me the no1 priority is the ROM has to be stable. No FC, as little lag as possible and no random restarts. The ICS-roms I used had more problems than the Gingerbread-ROMS, allthough the speed in the latest ICS-ROMS is very good.
I'm currently still using Mintberry. The moment I go to ICS will depend on when Mintberry goes ICS. If it ever does, that is. I love the look&feel of ICS, but will not trade in stabillity for looks.
Both ICSSGS 4.2 and Dark Knight 3 are stable, everything ive used seems to work, even skype, so that ticks video calling as-well.
chrismarkham1982 said:
Both ICSSGS 4.2 and Dark Knight 3 are stable, everything ive used seems to work, even skype, so that ticks video calling as-well.
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Does the fm radio work on the roms you mention? Without fm no ics for me...
DPI ISSUE
I recently flashed w/ ICS slim 2.8.
I observed that my Screen resolution is altered to DPI 182, meaning got bigger than 480x800 now.
Some Apps, such as IGO, have no suitable resolution for the new screen size.
I wanted to change to DPI 240 hoping to return to 480x800 but it crashed..
Keep in your mind that some apps are not running in ICS Roms..
jeroeng33 said:
Does the fm radio work on the roms you mention? Without fm no ics for me...
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Far as I am aware fm radio works on team icssgs. You just need to use spirit fm app.
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Far as I am aware fm radio works on team icssgs. You just need to use spirit fm app.
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This, you have to use spirit FM. under settings set regional band to your region and set audion to -galasys ALSA/ICS.
Make sure you dont just quit the app either, you need to press the power button for the app in the bottom right corner everytime you leave it.
I've tried flashing ICSSGS, just a couple of features that stock has that I was wondering if ICS had some equivalent:
Is there a mod somewhere to show battery % instead of the battery icon on the top right?
Is there a quick way to toggle vibrate/sound? Stock had an option from the lockscreen, and also the pulldown notification menu
Is there some special procedure to set ringtones/alarm as music files? I seem to only see system sounds when I try to change it
Thanks!
Widgetsoid in market/play store gives ability to add widget into notification bar with toggles for what ever you want. You just need to set it up right.
I asked about the battery percentage display and eventually found the link myself. Will find it for you and post it in a moment
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20901576
This thread has All battery options
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After playing with the Xperia S a few days ago I want to sort my phone out finally (hasn't been properly setup in ages).
At the moment I'm running "DarkyRom JVQ V10.2" with kernal "2.6 35.7 #DarkCore_2.9.2_JVQ".
My battery life is fine (needs to be recalibrated though) but it's still a bit laggy, no idea if I have lagfixes.
I would like ICS if it'll enable it to be snappy/quick but not really bothered as I don't believe there's any major thing in there for me over gingerbread. The other thing is I'd like to always have the buttons in the notification bar if possible (stuff like GPS/Wifi/auto rotate), think I will be using the GO launcher based on playing with a friends. I also like customisation, stuff like notifcation bar icons, colours etc.
Any ideas or pointers to the right place? I don't need a big tutorial just a pointer to the right place would be fine, also a bit stuck with some of the tutorials I've looked at as they all seem to have so many ways and just reference "flash this kernal" without actually showing how/pointing to the right direction.
Thanks.
EDIT: I've done a bit of research and I like the look of AOKP (Kang project). It seems to have the most features and be the most solid ROM. What kernal should I use though?
Aokp with semaphore or devil kernel.
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Try slim ICS 2.8
Been on it for the last week coming from Team ICSSGS RC4.2. Loving it, very responsive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488096&page=1
Also if you insist staying on GB try Juwe's rom, haven't been updated or ages though but it ran well for me while I was still on it
I personally prefer using the GamerzRom. Although the name is kinda misleading, it is a good ROM for a daily driver.
Its faster than most ROM's I've played around with. Not too graphic heavy and I use it for my App development testing and for business purposes. All in all, it's fast, responsive and snappy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441620
Unofficial, no warranty, express or implied. Not final, nothing to do with the CM people, not backed by them, not made by them, may cause corruption of innocent kittens if used irresponsibly. I am posting this only because the main CM sources are not perfect right now for building for Qualcomm devices just yet, and need some tweaks in new branches.
CM 10.2 Android 4.3 built for, and working on Pollux_Windy, once again thanks to Sony using such nice, open-source-friendly devices.
Working:
WiFi
Compass + sensors
Sound
Bluetooth
Front + Rear Camera
External SD (including ExFAT)
Not Working:
GPS
This is for the Pollux_Windy (SGP311) Wifi ONLY tablet. It should work on the SGP312 (32 GB wifi only) as well, but will NOT work on the Pollux (with LTE).
http://goo.im/devs/pulser/TabletZSGP311/CM10.2/cm-10.2-20130810-UNOFFICIAL-pollux_windy.zip
Tried to flash this but i'm getting an error about device build prop not matching requirements. I had a 312 rom on first, and flashed a 311 stock rom, but still get the error. My device is 311 by default.
Do i need to edit my build.prop? Even though my device shows as SGP311?
EDIT: Ah nevermind, i had the stock bootloader still installed. Doh!
If anyone needs Gapps I found them here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2378992
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Updated to 30 July build - includes the new Focal camera app. Yes, it has a few bugs with tablets and orientation. It's known.
Is root possible yet? I tried the supersu zip that was attached in op, but still needs the binary according to the supersu app. Do we need to adb push the binary?
Edit: Nevermind, just tried the latest supersu and works fine.
I can't get a restricted user to work for the life of me. All kinds of processes are force stopping and I couldn't pick trebuchet from the list on setup either, though I did manage to work around that with Apex eventually, though Apex kept crashing too.
I assume apps might have to support this (or at least launchers?) But core processes?
I did dirty flash so it's possible that has something to do with it.
Still digging around. I'll clean flash later to retry restricted users too.
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I can't get a restricted user to work for the life of me. All kinds of processes are force stopping and I couldn't pick trebuchet from the list on setup either, though I did manage to work around that with Apex eventually, though Apex kept crashing too.
I assume apps might have to support this (or at least launchers?) But core processes?
I did dirty flash so it's possible that has something to do with it.
Still digging around. I'll clean flash later to retry restricted users too.
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Restricted profiles are not tested or a priority right now in CM I believe.
Got this working on my xtz SGP311 seems really quick so far recovery plays nice, only real issues I've encountered is that the screen flickers black every now and then using the aosp browser and MX player pro doesn't work as android 4.3 isn't supported yet which has nothing to do with the rom.
WiFi and GPS seem to working used google maps to find a location and navigate there had no issues with those yet.
Definitely something different over the Sony ui and less cluttered just need the sony remote
Gonna have a play with it and see how I get on with it lots of options to play with hehe
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Got this working on my xtz SGP311 seems really quick so far recovery plays nice, only real issues I've encountered is that the screen flickers black every now and then using the aosp browser and MX player pro doesn't work as android 4.3 isn't supported yet which has nothing to do with the rom.
WiFi and GPS seem to working used google maps to find a location and navigate there had no issues with those yet.
Definitely something different over the Sony ui and less cluttered just need the sony remote
Gonna have a play with it and see how I get on with it lots of options to play with hehe
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Check out the project by @Apache14 that brings infrared remote control support to non Sony ROMs!
Are you sure gps is working? I don't think it should be in this ROM...
I had a go at the open source IR by apache but had no luck getting it to work, but I'm not sure if I installed it right.
I'll have another play with GPS today as I've got more time and let you know I could have jumped the gun on this one lol. I quickly downloaded an app called GPS test and although it says the GPS is on it doesn't show anything else like coordinates or location I'll keep playing for now though.
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Updated 3rd August
Updated 7th August.
Thanks a lot for throwing this together... everything seems to be working great, I'm impressed by focal.
I'm still struggling with is the absence of tablet UI (trying to hit the home softkey in landscape is impossible, so I've been forced to full!screen, which is working well), but it's a small price to pay for the jump from Sony's 4.1.2 to a functional 4.3 Rom.
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Thanks a lot for throwing this together... everything seems to be working great, I'm impressed by focal.
I'm still struggling with is the absence of tablet UI (trying to hit the home softkey in landscape is impossible, so I've been forced to full!screen, which is working well), but it's a small price to pay for the jump from Sony's 4.1.2 to a functional 4.3 Rom.
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Interesting. Out of interest, how do you use your tablet ? I'm just trying to work out if there is any link or difference - personally I thought the same, that tablet was good, until I used my Nexus 10... Then I was "sold" - tablet UI was sub-optimal. I tend to use the tablet with 2 hands - one holding it, another free across the top for use. I find keeping navigation to the centre more logical personally, and more ergonomic. It also keeps the notification tray at the top, consistent with the phone. At other times, I use the tablet as a "monitor" and type with a Bluetooth keyboard, where I do not interact with the touchscreen much (except at arm's length), and find phablet UI quite convenient. Moreso than I felt with tablet UI.
It's intriguing though. I am sure I can look at readding it some time, but I'm fairly busy so it will take a while. I noticed Sony seem to be moving to phablet UI for 4.2 as well though...
I hold mine on the sides and mostly interact with my thumbs, thus central on screen controls are hard to reach. But, to each his own. I also use Thumb Keyboard exclusively on my tablets, much more natural than trying to type with one hand holding with the other.
so yeah i finally got around to testing the GPS navigation and it just says "Searching for GPS" the whole time so confirmed its not working.
i also found a issue with the swipe to type on the AOSP keyboard as soon as i tried to use swiping it force closed the keyboard, not a big issue just thought id mention it.
i noticed you've done a couple of updates as well whats the best way to update the rom just flash as usual using the file in op?
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so yeah i finally got around to testing the GPS navigation and it just says "Searching for GPS" the whole time so confirmed its not working.
i also found a issue with the swipe to type on the AOSP keyboard as soon as i tried to use swiping it force closed the keyboard, not a big issue just thought id mention it.
i noticed you've done a couple of updates as well whats the best way to update the rom just flash as usual using the file in op?
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Just like with CM nightlies, just flash the latest update right over whatever you have.
In rare cases other changes will be needed, maintainers will usually let you know in these cases.
I'm investigating GPS on 10.1 on the windy - it's proving to be a bit of a headscratcher, although it has many of the hallmarks of the same problem we had with the modem on mint (Xperia T) months ago. Unfortunately, we can't use the same fix/workaround we used on mint.
pulser, may want to check the CM10.1 thread for my SMD debugging patch, might give some useful info - although what I need to do is get a build environment together for stock kernels so I can apply that patch to .370 for comparison.
i hate to sound like a noob but i am still learning lol is it safe to just flash the updates with cwm or is it best to do it with the flash tool?
it seems like gps has got a lot of people scratching their heads at the moment but im sure with so many looking into it there is sure to be a solution soon
Edit: its OK I went ahead and flashed the update using cwm and it worked, I'm to impatient to wait lol but at least I've learned something
Updated to 10th August build
Will you continue to tweak now that official nightlies are out?
Hello Boys and Girls,
Everyone at XDA loves AOSP based projects. However AOSP is designed only for the Nexus devices. For most other devices, a significant ammount of extra code needs to be added for them to run properly. For Qualcomm devices, most of this extra code is supplied by the Code Aurora Forums. Here you can find a variant of AOSP that is not only designed specifically for Qualcomm based devices, but it also includes various tricks and enhancements.
So today I'm introducing a little project I've been cooking up for myself, which might also be interesting for other Xperia SP users.
It's called recaf - adding the CAF optimizations back into your AOSP rom.
This is now based on Android 4.4 KitKat. On the surface, it looks almost exactly like pure AOSP as provided by Google. You wouldn't know just by looking at it, but under the surface there are lots of changes to dalvik, the frameworks and the hardware drivers to massively improve battery life.
However, pure AOSP sometimes feels a little bit featureless compared to advanced roms such as CyanogenMod, so I have included a few basic tweaks that I feel make life easier when using an AOSP-like rom:
CyanogenMod camera app - because AOSP camera app is rubbish
CyanogenMod cLock widget - because it's actually pretty nice
Integrated Superuser - it's right there in the settings menu!
exFAT and NTFS - needed for larger SDCards
Multicoloured notification lights - AOSP gives us white lights only
Quick settings - easily accessible by swiping down the right side of the status bar
Advanced reboot - Always available in the power menu
ADB and SU security - root access is disabled by default
So without further delay, here is your download link:
recaf-4.K1-20131212-huashan.zip
recaf-4.K1-20131207-huashan.zip
recaf-4.K1-20131202-huashan.zip
recaf-4.K1-20131129-huashan.zip
recaf-4.K1-20131127-huashan.zip
I assume you will also want to install GAPPS, the version I recommend is the FULL version created by the Paranoid Android team from THIS THREAD.
For your first install you will need to flash the boot.img from inside the zip - SELinux changes for Android 4.4 will cause the zip to fail on other recoveries.
If you want to chat about recaf, join the Freenode IRC chat room #recaf.
recaf-4.J3-20131110-huashan.zip
recaf-4.J3-20131113-huashan.zip
pa_gapps-full-4.3-GH-20131112.zip
Known Major Bugs
Location services are currently broken for certain apps. fixed in 4.K1.
GSM data sometimes (very rarely) randomly disconnects until reboot - I need help to determine what causes this. If you can reliably reproduce this, let me know.
Android RunTime (ART) will fail at boot time fixed.
Known Minor Bugs
WiFi does not connect to WPA secured networks. WPA2 security works as expected.
For Superuser to work you need to change ADB access to apps and adb (in developer settings)
Language does not change in some parts of Android, most notably the Settings app. Most other apps work fine and I didn't touch the language code, so this is a CAF bug I will need to fix.
Custom notification colours for missed calls and voice mail don't work
LED on charging sometimes gets stuck when disconnected until reboot.
These are features, not bugs
Facebook sync cannot be activated.
Quick Settings poll
I created a poll about Quick Settings (discuss it there)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550027
some feedback,
flashed rom+gapps= setup wizard FC
flashed rom=boot then reboot then flash gapps= profit
seems like integrated SU is not working properly for me though
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One question though, did you manage to fix the "Phone" app battery drain issue?
Ahh yes the setup wizard will crash due to the above bug. You can skip it by pressing the four corners of the screen, start top left then go clockwise.
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I will search all bugs and i will post them here. Thank you for your job, I am waiting for Aosp or Cm based on android 4.4. Regards
BUG #1 : Settings language is always English, if you change language it doesnt help ofc, still english on settings.
BUG #2 : There is 2x calendar app xd
BUG #3 : SU dont work, and i dont know how to root this firmware :/
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I will search all bugs and i will post them here. Thank you for your job, I am waiting for Aosp or Cm based on android 4.4. Regards
BUG #1 : Settings language is always English, if you change language it doesnt help ofc, still english on settings.
BUG #2 : There is 2x calendar app xd
BUG #3 : SU dont work, and i dont know how to root this firmware :/
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download superSU from chainfires site
What are you trying to user Superuser for? I tested remounting /system and adding a file with Root explorer and it worked fine
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@adfad666 thank you so much for sharing this rom! I have decided to switch to this one as my daily driver, pure stock 4.3 jellybean just the way i like it battery life is significantly better than cm10.2 and lag is non existent. Looking forward to future updates/bug fixes and of course AOSP kitkat roms!
Bug report: The notification light doesnt seem to work when charging via usb but works for notifications. Also, even though ive changed the notification lights to custom color values it still blinks white
ive attached a logcat below hope it helps.
Going to test this out as I'm currently running PAC and my battery ran out in 6 hours with 1 hour tops screen time. Hope this is better like the previous comment stated. Will post a small review afterwards.
Ok first off: battery life seems to be A LOT better than CM10.2/PAC.
Doesn't have SU installed by default, so I had to flash it.
Seems to be smoother than PAC. Might be placebo effect though.
1 question as well. Is there a way to enable facebook sync? I did it on CM10.* with this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2064859, but the CM10.2 apk doesn't work with AOSP
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Bug report: The notification light doesnt seem to work when charging via usb but works for notifications. Also, even though ive changed the notification lights to custom color values it still blinks white
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I noticed it works if you change the default notification colour, so I must have missed some part about the custom colours for apps.
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Doesn't have SU installed by default, so I had to flash it.
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Super user is for sure installed, but I think you need to enable developer settings for it to work. It's the exact same code as for CyanogenMod ( I didn't even fork it I just link to their projects) and I think super user is hidden and disabled there until developer mode is enabled. I'll add the code like CM has to hide it unless developer mode is enabled.
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1 question as well. Is there a way to enable facebook sync?
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Absolutely not, Facebook needs to die. Immediately. Seriously.
Sahand_N said:
Downloading...
One question though, did you manage to fix the "Phone" app battery drain issue?
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The phone app battery drain is a CM bug, it works perfectly fine in this.
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The phone app battery drain is a CM bug, it works perfectly fine in this.
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Unfortunately I encountered the same issue on this ROM too, I'll re-flash and provide a log tomorrow.
undoubtedly the best work so far
the ram and the battery is what most pleased in this rom
but heating in many aspect
I did return to the stock expecting some solution
or next actulizacion
SuperUser is working fine for me .
-I've some force closes in Drive app; but i disabled this app so the force closes are gone.
-I suffer a reboot when i start the camera for first time -> The screen turns purple and like "melted" and after that turns off. And later turns on again (reboot). Note: i've this bug in CM10.1 and CM10.2 when i was playing HD videos.
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undoubtedly the best work so far
the ram and the battery is what most pleased in this rom
but heating in many aspect
I did return to the stock expecting some solution
or next actulizacion
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using wifi will make the phone hot, try turning it off when not using
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Super user is for sure installed, but I think you need to enable developer settings for it to work. It's the exact same code as for CyanogenMod ( I didn't even fork it I just link to their projects) and I think super user is hidden and disabled there until developer mode is enabled. I'll add the code like CM has to hide it unless developer mode is enabled.
I enabled dev options before flashing, but many apps still said, that there's no root.
Absolutely not, Facebook needs to die. Immediately. Seriously.
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I do agree with this, but I got all my phone numbers from facebook on stock and CM10.1.
sync all your stuff to google account, you have to login it in any ROMs anyway and facebook app drain battery alot
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I do agree with this, but I got all my phone numbers from facebook on stock and CM10.1.
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So what's the difference between this and say CM 10.1 and 10.2
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ngoralph said:
using wifi will make the phone hot, try turning it off when not using
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I do not use wifi and stays warm when charging the battery rather more than normal
I can not start playing as soon starts to overheat
is quite uncomfortable hopefully someone saying if you have the same problem or just
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The problem
Hi, I've been experiencing significant interface stuttering whenever an application has been granted accessibility permissions.
Video of the problem
Here is a video demonstrating the issue, read below for technical information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFVKCx5zVmQ
Facts about the problem
Ok so here's what I know so far:
It doesn't matter which service you grant access to, it will lag the same. I've tried LMT, Swipe Navigation, LastPass, TalkBack, and a few more I can't even remember at the moment.
It doesn't matter what ROM or Kernel you are on. I've tried Euphoria with LK and Hydra, rooted stock with stock kernel and LK, and Benzo with whatever the default Benzo kernel is. Doesn't make a single difference.
It does not only affect Relay for Reddit comment collapsing. It also affect Google Newsstand's mini/big card transition, news source transitions, Google Now transitions, basically anywhere there is an animation in the OS I can notice the stuttering.
Anyone else experience this? Any ideas? It is driving me crazy.
I'm not experiencing that
I've used custom roms/kernels almost all of them in the development forum lol
I wonder if maybe it's a particular accessibility itself? I feel like since its needing to be authorized in accessibility that it might be conflicting with something else, who knows?
People usually try booting the phone into safe mode and seeing if maybes its a third party app?
Thats my 2 cents! Hopefully it helps
It has nothing to do with a specific accesibility from what I can feel, stuttering occurs regardless of the app.
I have full wiped several times to test and can't find a solution.
Does anyone else experience this or have any ideas?
Can anybody duplicate this?
Should I RMA?
ggmask said:
Can anybody duplicate this?
Should I RMA?
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adjust your governor/scheduler. me, i like using ondemand/deadline.
simms22 said:
adjust your governor/scheduler. me, i like using ondemand/deadline.
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I've done this when using LK/Hydra, but I am not running stock kernel. None of the adjustments made any noticeable difference unfortunately
I really hate to bump this but the video only has 16 views and I'd love someone else to confirm or deny the same behavior when granting an app accessibility permissions.
If this is common behavior I won't RMA, but if no one else can recreate this I'm going to.
Oh, another thing I noticed: you don't have to test it in an app like Relay for Reddit, you can also do it in the Chrome browser on a site that has a lot of information. What I've noticed is that, when accessibility is granted to any app, visiting XDA forums becomes almost unusable. It takes FOREVER to scroll and when I can scroll it is extremely choppy. Disable the accessibility permission? Completely solves the problem.
You are NOT crazy. I have been searching, seeing if anyone else had this problem. I am using a completely stock Nexus 6 (not rooted), and because of the screen size I have been tinkering with apps to help with one handed use (like pie controls, handy soft keys, etc). They also require accessibility to be enabled. Whenever I install them, I notice (about once every 6-7 times) that when I open my app drawer on Nova launcher, it will half freeze, half stutter. Most of the time it's fine, but once every few times it happens. I haven't paid too much higher attention to whether jt causes stuttering in other apps, but it drives me nuts and so I uninstall the app and go back to stretching my thumb to use the stock nav keys. Wish this would get fixed. Kind of unacceptable for a Nexus - that kind of stuttering is why I don't like using Samsung devices.
Here is the Swipe Navigation developer saying it is definitely a thing in Lollipop with accessibility settings. (screenshot from Play Store comments on Swipe Navigation app). I wish someone could figure this out - I guess we have to wait for Google to do that?
I am using PieControl Pro and I do believe it makes the animations in the Play story stutter when I open a page and use the back button to go back to the app overview. The Play store was never completely smooth no matter what, but when I disable accessibility for PieControl Pro, it becomes a little better. So yeah, accessibility does seem to affect UI performance. I'm on stock Android 5.1 with Franco Kernel.
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You are NOT crazy. I have been searching, seeing if anyone else had this problem. I am using a completely stock Nexus 6 (not rooted), and because of the screen size I have been tinkering with apps to help with one handed use (like pie controls, handy soft keys, etc). They also require accessibility to be enabled. Whenever I install them, I notice (about once every 6-7 times) that when I open my app drawer on Nova launcher, it will half freeze, half stutter. Most of the time it's fine, but once every few times it happens. I haven't paid too much higher attention to whether jt causes stuttering in other apps, but it drives me nuts and so I uninstall the app and go back to stretching my thumb to use the stock nav keys. Wish this would get fixed. Kind of unacceptable for a Nexus - that kind of stuttering is why I don't like using Samsung devices.
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Thank you! I was losing my mind tryingbto figure this out so I opened a support ticket with Google play store and the person who handled my case was able to reproduce it and has made a note of it (whether this means there's an official bug report or not I don't know). He also said this issue cannot be used to RMA, since it wouldn't do anything anyway.
Unless someone can confirm that they DO NOT have this issue.
Im using swipe navigation and I'm noticing stutter as well. Wonder why this happens. Took me a while to figure it out.
Would you mind pointing me to the Google page where you reported this? I would like to star it as well, and follow their updates.
As a follow up, today I decided to tinker around and install pie again. Since the Nova app drawer animation is what I always notice stuttering first, I decided to just turn Nova animations off. Then, I went into Android settings, developer options, and reduced the three animation settings to 0.5x. I may just be seeing what I want to see, but the UI hasn't seemed to stutter with Pie enabled in accessibility (yet). Going to try this for a day or two.
I've gotten the same issues with Lastpass.
Lastpass even states on their site that it's a lollipop issue.
https://lastpass.com/support.php?cmd=showfaq&id=8166
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Thank you! I was losing my mind tryingbto figure this out so I opened a support ticket with Google play store and the person who handled my case was able to reproduce it and has made a note of it (whether this means there's an official bug report or not I don't know). He also said this issue cannot be used to RMA, since it wouldn't do anything anyway.
Unless someone can confirm that they DO NOT have this issue.
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Sorry if this counts as bringing up an old thread, although it's not THAT old
Anyway, I've come here just to corroborate all your findings and confirm that I am also experiencing this ugly bug. A few days ago I installed Greenify which, among other things, asked to enable Accessibility features for it. Thinking nothing of it I did as requested. Next day I start noticing some UI lagginess and choppiness, which was especially noticeable to me in Relay for Reddit since I use it a lot (too much for my own good in fact) and I distinctly remember it had very smooth scrolling between comments just a few days ago. In the mean time, I completely forget I've granted Greenify accessibility control so I went on a mission trying to fix this inexplainable, sudden UI choppiness, by trying to flash a different kernel, trying different governors, dirty flashing my ROM, trying all the other tweaks, and finally doing a factory reset and flashing the stock ROM all over again (luckly I did make a nandroid). Nothing helped. I was at my wits end when I tried searching the app's subreddit for anyone experiencing the same issue and found a comments saying accessibility features were to blame. I felt stupid for not researching it before. However, this bug is very insidious as it just creeps up on you, with no reason. I also don't know how can accessibility features affect UI smoothness this way.
Yes, hopefully will be fixed in M maybe? I haven't checked around to see if those who have installed M preview have checked to see if the bug has been fixed there. Fingers crossed.....
Not fixed in M. Everyone should go star the issue so it gets fixed!
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=2092
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Not fixed in M. Everyone should go star the issue so it gets fixed!
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=2092
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Still isnt fixed ) But my lag rather appears when tapping on any app icon, then it highlights, then go lag, then opening animation starts.
Post this over on reddit and see if you can bring a bit more attention to the issue.